PipemanRadio Interviews Vowws at Download Festival 2025

0:04 Hey, you love then too? Yes, that's true for. Why for you young? This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio and I'm here. With Matt and Riz from vows. Nice here at Download Festival. Now. I gotta tell you, I was really impressed because I was at your set and you were competing with Orbit Culture and Archers and you still had a badass amount of people there. Like, did that like shock you a little bit that you have two other bands you're competing at and you still had a huge crowd.

0:53 Yeah, I mean we've gotten a little bit used to that. Over the course of the festivals. There seems to always be a bunch of curious people. I think they're people that are starting to find out about us. But also it feels like people are into finding out about new music. That's good, right, And what I liked about is you're unique, which is hard to find nowadays. I do festivals all over to you as UK Europe, and it's like nowadays, a lot of bands they use like this formula to write their music and let's all sound like this microcosm of a genre. Yeah. Yeah, And you guys reminded me of like old school. Yeah, we think old school, Like there's a lot of bands that they copy the same plugins as other bands, and we just try and do music that is as timeless as we can make it, and that just is what it is. We try not to fit into a particular genre.

1:42 Yeah. Sometimes it's like something starts to work, right, that's getting traction, and people are like, oh, we should do that. Yeah, you know, it's like what if it sucks? Right, No, and you have to have your own sound. There's too many bands out there nowadays. You could get lost in the sea. Back in like the eighties, nobody sounds the same because there were only a handful of bands, so how could you copy the other ones. We were in a hotel room last night watching a documentary, like British documentaries about music in the eighties. They're kind of cooler, I suppose, because Britain had such a diverse weird scene in the eighties. It did, and it was all about that. It was like there was one band that would do one thing and then right next to them in the same like quote unquote genre, they're doing completely different shit.

2:30 Right. It was so diverse, Like. I don't even know if you know the band Striper. They were like this Christian heavy metal band back in the eighties, and I was at a gig where they were the opening band for Slayer. Yeah right, it's amazing, that's like, and that's kind of how it was, like Slayer and Metallica left LA to go to the Bay Area because they were the only ones like that, so they couldn't play with anybody except hairbands. We it might not be exactly the case now, but we always used to say we're too we're too dark for the mainstream, like for the normal people, a little bit too normal for like the all the super gothic straight whatever, you know, Like we are our own thing and whatever the hell that means, for better or worse.

3:18 I get it though, after seeing you, like, I think it's a whole different level. Let's see somebody live a postal listener music, because I think you get the band a lot more and exactly what you said, it's exactly what I was seeing it was because and then when your voice came, I'm like, oh, that reminds me of the eighties, but like the gothics type of stuff in the eighties, not the gothic now. Yeah, exactly, and gothic stuff in the eighties was I've said it before, but it's like more it was more diverse. There was there's the goth scene today. I don't it's hard to explain it exactly what's what what I'm thinking, but it just feels a little. Bit more like it's copying. They're all copying each other. I call it like an algebraic equation. They used to make their music, you know, instead of like the eighties bands, they didn't know what the hell they were doing and they had nobody to copy from.

4:13 Except they generally tried to write good songs, right, or good pieces of music whatever, like whether it's songs quote unquote, all pieces of music. They were trying to do good stuff. The creativity, that's what I think it comes down to it at the end of the day, Like whatever style, genre, or you want to use to color and present your music can change, but it has the writing has to be good. Well, they say, like in all the punk bands that I ever interviewed, they're always like talking about the Descendants and their songwriting. Like no, they all say, none of us could write songs like the Descendants. So it's that that same thing you do. It has to be a good song, you write creative good song for it to last.

5:00 Absolutely yeah, because otherwise we don't. You know, we don't listen to any one genre. We don't necessarily listen to goth music, right, We don't really listen to you know what I mean. We mainly listened to like film scores, which I'm not trying to sound pretensions and be like, but it's there's, there's, it's it's just so writing and emotion heavy because they're they're putting music to a pre existing emotion and it's pretty specific. So when you're sitting there and you're listening to that, you're sort of taken on this emotional journey and that's where the writing begins. That's the way music should be though, because listen, music's the best therapy there. Is, absolutely yeah. And it has to have emotion in it, and it has to have passion in it, or else it's not going to hit here. You know, what was that one moment in time in your life that you decide this is what you need to do and nothing else.

5:51 I don't. For me, it wasn't. I don't think it was conscious necessarily. It was just like the way I was and the things I was drawn to and even as like a child, I'd get hooked on like the TV theme intro for some cartoon because it was really pretty, and I'd be it would change me somehow. Yeah, and that that that feeling was like I'm still chasing it or I'm still like a choice, like oh, I want to do music because my dad plays a guitar. Like nothing like that. It was just this thing that, yes, this chemical thing that started to happen, and I just kept following it and following it and couldn't wait to finish high school and get to college and study it and then meet people like Matt and just like kind of just forever where life is.

6:39 It's not a choice. Rightly, I don't even fucking like doing this anymore. But I don't have a choice. That's so funny, you know, of course. And you know what, it's funny that you said about meeting in college because I find some of the best artists I've found out there that's where they met in college. Because I think you're at a different mentality level. Then there's like between the ages of like I don't know what it is, like sixteen and twenty four or something like, there's that period where everything in your life is new and fresh, and you're you're curious and you want to explore whatever the hell's going on around you. That's like the music that I discovered then is still really important to me. And I think it's that like when you're doing things like the future is hopeful and wide open and all that shit.

7:24 Totally totally tell you something funny when you start smoking a cigarette on stage. Nicole over here, I'm going to smoke with her. Solidarity. It's kind of funny. Dream Sorry, go ahead go. When I get rich, I want to start a smoker's airline, like an airline I usually smoke on is allowed to smoke. That would be so cool. Don't book it, but all the smokers will be having the best time, right because airport, even if it's like if we're going LA to New York, we live in LA, that's at least five hours airtime plus at least like an hour on either side of just so try to get a smoker to not have a cigarette for eight hours, like I'll, oh bazillionaire if I.

8:12 Started, You're gonna have to bribe the shit out of the FAA. Whatever. It's fun. I remember smoking on planes and it's like, it does suck. That flight from New York to LA without cigarette. Oh my god. If I go without a drink, I'm. Right, you can get that on a plane seat. You can still get it. So say that about since you guys are from LA. My dad moved me to LA from New Jersey in nineteen eighty. If you could imagine the perfect time to move La. Okay, And funny enough, you were mentioning about what we were talking about. What was that moment for you? For me?

8:52 I was always into music since I was like real little, but the moment it really was like, oh my god, this is just me. Was my first club show at the Roxy and it was Motley Crue before they got an album. They weren't glam, they were horror punk and they were trying to light the whole Roxy on fire and bring Satan and I'm like, I'm never going to another real concert again. And that started me being. At clubs every Friday and Saturday night, whether it was on the Strip or the Troubadour and the country Club in Resita, which is even their anymore. That was iconic and you know, it was what a scene.

9:35 Sorry, it got. Its clausing, didn't you. That was the moment what it got its clause in and it never let go. Oh it was like just before that, I liked music, but then it was like, oh my god, I just liked the whole scene. But LA in the eighties was something else. Though, right unbelieving. I was at Slayers for show ever, Metallica's first show ever. And you would go to a Metallica show and there'd be like twenty five of us and we'd all go over to our house and party all night long. Or I remember the last time I was at the Rainbow. I'm like, I'm thinking about it. I'm like, how did I get in this place at fourteen years old?

10:16 Oh? I walked in with Motley Crue and I'm hanging out with Lemmy at fourteen at the Rainbow. It's like just so wild to and the memories I have, at least the ones you remember. Yeah, because they say best ones are the ones that, Yeah. They say, if you if you can remember the eighties, you weren't on the Sunset Strip, you weren't there exactly. So here's my battle vest from the eighties. Fucky before they made these pre made shit. Yeah, Okay, this is real. This is all my drawing on. It didn't listen to I don't think as much. Right, they didn't even have a Slayer patch yet. So I just did this and in LA they thought I was a gang banger and that was my gang name, and like bands that look at this Slayer, this is beautiful and this Like Winston from Parkway Drive was like, when did they have a logo like that?

11:15 They never were a devil band. You could probably sell that for a lot of money. Oh, Winston said, you could put it on eBay for five grand and get it. Yeah, fuck that, I want it now. That's now you'll see the other history because that's the that's the mosh pitch side. Look at those patches, they're coming off. I don't think it's part for anymore. And there's blood rest there's blood on. Here from when I climbed up on Marshall Stack did a swan dive, crowd moved t first linoleum floor. I swear I've sent a YouTube video of you somewhere doing that.

11:56 I'm sure you did, because it is the band that happened with I. I've been friends with since then. And he was like, that was the most tragic thing that ever happened in La Metal He goes. I felt so bad. It's why I don't do shit like that. I won't anymore. I won't crowds. I'll go in the pit because I'm in control. Yeah, I won't CrowdSurf. I won't stage dive. I don't trust these motherfuckers a bit to do. That is like a trustful You can't even do. It now, like they have it all way out here, like you'd have to be a super diver to get out to the crowd. And then if they don't catch you, you're really fucked, probably die because you dove so hard.

12:37 Yeah, totally, you would hit that fence and snap your neck or whatever. Tell everybody how they can reach out to you guys on socials, on the web, check out your tour dates, music, and most importantly, buy your merch because if they don't buy your merch, they can't listen to my show, because that's the only way you survive. It's all vowsband dot com, just a band name, band dot com. Make sure they know it's not just one. W two w's, because there's two of us. That's how we came to that decision. So vows with two w's. Gee, I didn't even have to ask that question, which I never would I would never asks. Or how did you get your band name? Stupidest ever?

13:17 There is no why. We just came up with it. That doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. It doesn't like I don't get why press people ask that question. It's like that. All my friends are band members are like, it's a fucking question. We hate the most. It's the stupidest question. It's like, it doesn't matter and you could have just come up with it in the kitchen one day. Yeah, it's a. Sick band name, like I don't know, something really out there that you're like, I don't know, like anal cunt. How about this one? Do you remember there was a there was a punk band in La called Gay Bikers on Acid? Did you go? Now you can ask you about that one. Right, that's great, Like that's a great.

13:59 Rudd ask why or you just say that's amazing? Right, That's all I would say. Any final words for our listeners. No, it's a pleasure to talk to you, and I really want to do album. Coming out on October twenty fourth. Good for my birthday because I'm October eleventh, So. By the album. Yes, for sure. Do you guys play the US festivals because I do all the US festivals. Not this year. We're sort of like still sort of working on album stuff, you know, putting the release out. Would you we're pretty diy would you all the visuals and the artwork and everything ourselves.

14:41 We'd like to do it. Yeah, we're going to do that and then we're gonna play some more nice. Next year is the next year. Let's do it. Hopefully I'll see that at one of those. Hell yeah, Thank you so much. Thank you for. Being here a download and on the Adventures of pipe Man. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Patement on w for CUI Radio.