PipemanRadio Interviews Undeath at Download20

0:00 Hey, you love them too, that's sure. I'm come. I'm to see why for you. Wake up America. It's time for the Adventure. So Pinteman on W four C why dot com West Palm Beach is number one internet radio station. Here's your host, the white Man. That's it's white Man here on the Adventure Man W four C by Radio, and I'm here with Tommy from on Death, Jared from Unda, Matt from Unda Nice here at the twentieth anniversary of Download Festival. Is that insane or what? Yeah?

1:15 I kind of remember when this started. I was paying attention loosely back home, just like reading all like the I guess it was like the new new metal magazines and stuff like that. I can't believe it's twenty years. It makes me feel old. You are old, I know if you can remember twenty years. But I am too. So that's okay. And so it's blow Thor who was just here. So we're all fucking old. So was look Metallica last night? They're older than all of us. Actually actually I was at their first show ever. Really yeah, and like would that be? Yeah? See I hate when people say that, or like I'm also origoining from Jersey. So all my Old Bridge friends are like, oh Matoka's from Oldbridge. Yeah, after they were from LA and then the Bay Area. Are you metal militia? Then I wasn't because I left Jersey in nineteen eighty, gotch and moved to LA. So I was there for the whole LA scene, that whole Sunset strip wild shit, and then I went back to Old Bridge after the metal militia thing. Was the Old Bridge militia thing was kind of no more. That's still crazy that you got experience all that stuff. Oh yeah, first Slayer show ever I was at. That's awesome. Yeah. So it's like it was kinya surreal. It's kind of surreal. When I see like Metallica last night player, It's like I was with twenty four people at a little club watching him, and I'm looking at

2:50 the sea of people at down I'm like, we never imagined that ever. Yeah, I can't believe it either. I mean, like just speaking from a personal angle, I mean we all came up in like DIY bands and stuff, playing to two, three four people tops right nights, and then we looked out in front of the crowd today and I was like, there were so many people. You couldn't imagine that they were separate people. It just became one of morphous blob. Yeah right, And you know, I think it's way cool that here we are in twenty twenty three and you could have be a festival like this and there's a metal band playing and not a commercial one, and there's a sea of people like that that wouldn't have happened back in the day. It's yeah, it's unreal. It's like age of the Internet. I guess it's like bringing people out to stuff, and I'm glad that we resonate with them. We I can tell. I know we have some like poppier structure and stuff, but like there's something too it I guess, of being something that's like catchy. Yeah, can right. I think catchy's cool too. You know. Listen, even the bands back then.

3:49 Metallica is catchy, Okay, Slayer was catchy. I mean, you know, Tom Rayah wasn't even a metal head. Did you know? It wasn't really either? Oh tell us? Well, you know, I honestly, I didn't really get into death metal until I started hanging out with the guys in the band, and I didn't really realize until then how it like scratched the hitch of that I had for the guitar playing. I wanted to play nice, you know, very aggressive and like a little bit of technicality. So I love it. I'm glad you said about the technicality because people that aren't into metal don't realize, specially with death metal, how technical the musicianship is. People think it's just noise and it's so far from that, you know, into like I think, like the low tunings and like the double kick drum and all that. It kind of it takes a while to get used to listening to it and to be able to actually hear the technicality, but it's it's an acquired taste and it's definitely worth acquiring that for sure.

4:50 Yeah. I acquired my daste for death metal with Possessed when I hitchhike to the Bay Area. Yeah, I went hitchhike to Bay Area and while actually one of the big shows I was at that's like considered an icon show, was the first show ever to add metal and punk in the same room, you know, because if you were a long are, you got your ass kicked at punk show and vice versa. So it was at this place called the Sun Valley Sportsman's Lodge. Okay, it was an Elks lodge. On the punk side, was Suicidal before they crossed over, Like I couldn't go Suicidal shows in the beginning, coc before Pepper pre Pepper when they were hardcore, and I think it was like nineteen eighty three or some shit like that. And then I don't remember what the third punk band was, but there were three metal bands, Possessed, Dark Angel, and this band Savage Grace, which was one of my favorite bands. They never really came out of LA but they did tour with Motorhead for a while and they just came out when a new album recently, actually after thirty years. Can you imagine playing on an album after thirty years? I hope too. Yeah right, yeah, So what did you listen to before metal? I listened to a lot of pop music, you know, some like indie rock from like the nineties and stuff. I listened to, you know, a little bit of metal. I like love playing Guitar Hero and the Guitar Hero soundtrack. Right,

6:24 yeah, cool? And how about you. I got into like the eighties kind of metal when I was younger because my dad's CD tape collection, like Iron Maiden, early Metallica stuff, just all the like Pantera, all the like kind of classic eighties and nineties stuff. And I don't know, I followed a pretty normal path sun sign of once I like got on the internet and then start to be able to go to the stores by myself and find you know, more underground or just heavier not even necessarily always under ground, but just heavier stuff that was coming out in the two thousands and whatnot. It just kind of has gone every since then. But I mean, we all love to listen to different kinds of music. I mean, see, I think that's cool. Most of the time when I'm driving, Like when we're touring in the US and I'm driving, I ninety percent of the time I'm not listening to metal because there's so much road noise going on.

7:21 Something that is just a little like put in the zone. Picking your zone just has a little more you can hear. It puts you in the zone. You can just kind of chill out listen to it. We listen to, you know, literally all kinds of music nice, and I think that's cool. And that's what probably your generation did better than my generation, because we had all the fucking gatekeepers, and you couldn't even listen to a certain band. You know. It's like if you listen to this band, you can't listen to that band. And it was just stupid, you know, like you should be able to listen when you know a lot, and then the band they couldn't do shit either, Like when Metallican's Black album came out, me and my friends were all fucking posers, you know, and it's just stupid, you know, like we all should have different influences, different and I think that's what makes a band like you better than the average band, because you're not sounding like everybody else cause you're blending all these things that are your different taste. You know. There's a lot of metal bands nowadays that I'm like, they're just plugging in an algebreak equation. It didn't it's not metal. That's not metal as far as I'm concerned. To just play here, do this, and you have a metal song, you know, well, I mean the early bands, if you think about it, we're making a sound. Yes, that didn't. Metal didn't fully exist yet, ye and the way that we think about it now. So they were listening

8:52 to music that wasn't kind of music that they were playing to make the kind of music that they ended up making. So somewhere though, did get stuck in this idea that you have to listen to that kind of music always to play it, which we all love that kind of music obviously, but that doesn't really make sense in the way of like to make your own sound or try to keep moving forward. Obviously, there has to be some kind of other influenced to not just make the same exacts exactly. And that's why lie of the metal bands back then, the all sounded different. You could tell them all a part, you know, listen, there wasn't even such thing as thrash metal. Metallica was power metal for a minute. Imagine that then being called power metal like it because what else are you going to call them?

9:43 Type of thing it was. And then talking on the Rayah, he'd never even listened Iron Maiden and Slayer when they started. They were playing cover songs like Maiden and Priest. Yeah, I mean like the I think they're taking those classic examples and then upping the intensity. Gives us our Slayers and our Metallica's. I kind of think that's how we look at any other style of music. We enjoy now like what we enjoy about it, will take the elements we like and you just add the aggression the intensity of metal that it's passed down through the generations, you know. So now, for those listeners have never heard you guys before, how would you, guys as artists, describe your music, not genre wise, but just how you would describe it. I just want to go person by person, because I'm sure each person. I was actually a late addition to the bands. It was first Matt, Kyle and Alex and then me and Jared joined up around the same time. So I have the I guess, the blessing of looking at it from an outsider's perspective at first, to kind of like hear it, experienced it as an audience member, and then go back to it. So I heard obviously death metal, but there was twists and turns that made it sound natural. It reminded me a lot of and this now that I'm in the band, it might make it sound like I'm being a little egotistical. So it reminded me of Rush and that a lot of stuff was complicated, but it felt natural nice, and to do that, I think it is impressive.

11:07 So I props the Kyle. Every time I hear a song, he writes that, I know it's complicated to play, but it just sounds like it feels like a natural song, you know, So I love it. It's poppy, intense, sometimes fast, usually not slow. But that's how I look at it, at least. How about you, Jared, Yeah, I mean I would say it's definitely metal music. The thing that I really think is important to the sound is sort of the development of ideas. You know, It's not like you just have one riff pasted after the next drift after the next one. It's like the riffs are building, building towards something, and you know, there's payoffs at different points during each song.

11:50 And it's it's detailed too, like every rewards, every reward's close listening. The detailed I think goes along with the technicality. My opinion, I think these guys said it pretty good. It's kind of hard for me to really say much more than that. I guess it feels like from the beginning Kyle, the first time that we played together, it was pretty natural, like Kyle just had some riffs and he had me over. We wanted to play death metal music. We'd both been wanting to play for a while and we just never met anyone where we like meshed like that, and so we got together. He showed me some stuff. I started playing some beats. We talked about some ideas of like these guys just talked about trying to keep it technical but natural feel to it, not anything that like we couldn't actually play live or like, you know, have too many too much like gear like fancy stuff like that. Keep it real simple in that regards. Yeah, I was just kind of gone from there nice. And you know it is that the feeling comfortable thing. I like that because to me, that's the opposite of what I was talking about before. When you're plugging in these formulas, How can it feel natural if you're just going through the motions, you know, to me, just be you just being a musician and whatever comes

13:20 out comes out. I remember while I was first playing guitar, and my dad would be yelling at me, there's there's something else, because you suck that up. And all I was doing is that I probably did suck, but what I was doing is experimenting with the sounds, you know, And I was like, oh, that sounds cool type and that's how new music comes about, and it's maybe how you sound. And sometimes it's easy to listen to other things or things that people are used to and be like, how come I don't sound like that? Right? But you know, you try to just play how you play and not always have to compare to what other people are doing. And that's the way it should be, because like even when bands do covers, make it your own, because you're never gonna do it as good as the original if you do it their way, right, because it's their way. So where you got going on? After download?

14:18 After download? Yeah, we're going to Amsterdam, one of my favorite places on Earth. I believe that's into the Grave Fest. Yeah, and then from there we're going into Germany for a few dates, have another, have a couple other fests that I kind of don't remember the names of right now. I'm sorry, returning to strength as one, I guess in Copenhell and Copenhagen. Oh that's a good one. Yeah, that's gonna be funny. And then a few more days in Germany. Did we get to go home? Nice? And so how do people connect you on social media? On the web? How do they buy your merch because that's important. We have Undeath Metal or undeath Metal dot com, right all right, and then our social media is mainly undeath n y at Instagram, Twitter. Yeah, we're pretty active on all those. Well, one of us will communicate to you in some capacity if you're respectful, I guess, but if you're not, we might also be a little communicative. Nice. I love it.

15:11 So is there anything going on that we want to tell the listeners about that we haven't covered or ray that you want them to know about? You guys all. I can't go into too much detail about it, but we definitely have some new material in the works. We're probably gonna be taking a little bit easier until what we just announced, the Municipal Waste tour coming to the UK in October I believe, the first of the sixteenth, along with Gel Awesome Fast Hardcore, and then I think that's about all we've got going on besides working on the album, which is gonna be coming out sometime or work or we should be recording it sometime next year. Love it, Love it well? You guys are badass, and thanks for being here at Download Festival twentieth anniversary. Like, how how much of an honor is that that they had to hand pick this line up for this twentieth anniversary and you were hand picked. It's insane. I remember the day we got picked. We played Manchester, I believe in February at some point, and the pressure just mounted immensely once we heard that cam was coming through and it's like, all right, if you guys play, well, you go play download. I was like, okay, I guess we'll just get up there and rocket and I guess he did all right, because here you are two decades absolutely incredible.

16:18 That's a pleasure to be here. Well, it's a pleasure to have you here. And thanks for being on the Adventures of pinate Man. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pate Man on W four CUI Radio.