PipemanRadio Interviews The Mourning

0:04 Hey, you have done to censure. W C wow for you. Young whycoume America, It's time for the Adventures of pipe Man. I'll you four C why dot com West Pompeach is number one Internet radio station. Here's your host, the pipe Man. By the this is pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four C Y Radio and I'm here with our next guy to uh some badass music for two reasons. One is the music itself. Everybody knows I have a huge passion for good music. But I'm also a motivational speaker, so I really love the message, even of the name and the band. So let's welcome to the show The Morning.

1:21 Thank you, thank you for having us, Thank you so much. You know what I love about the name of your band is that it's so typical of people that don't know this kind of music would look at that name and think it's something negative, dark, depressive, And why don't you tell them what it really means? Yeah, before Johnny, the Morning is about morning, the state of the world, and morning morning the place that humanity is in right now. And I love that because. Yeah, but there's it's not just morning, right, Johnny, Well, go on what do you want to say? Oh, I mean it's not just morning, but it's also like, you know, the messages that like you can build a better society and for each other up and for sure.

2:14 Yeah, absolutely, Well here's the proof of your message, because your message basically is, you know, music and art can bring us all together. And so I believe that. I believe it wholeheartedly. Like that's that's a big, a big thing that I that I talk about. I talk about this quite often, and I'm like, you know, musicians are the peacekeepers. You know, Artists are the peacekeepers. They're the people the glue of society. They're the ones that, uh, you know, when when somebody has a really bad day of work, they blast some metal or something afterwards so they don't end up going the next day and going postal. You know, it gets their anger out there, question.

3:00 Out, you know. And mosh pits. Yeah that's true. People don't understand. I probably would have killed some people if I didn't have mosh pits in my life. Yeah, you know, And it's not about what everybody thinks it is. You don't go in there to hurt and main people. In fact, I hate the people that go in and try to do that. I try to take them out. Those guys really have problems, no doubt. Everyone's very quick to make sure to stop those people if those people do come around. It's funny you got you bring that up because, uh, a friend of mine, she she just posts a story that she had a bruise, and I know she just went to this big it's called f Ya Fest. She just went to this festival in Orlando. And I was seeing some videos from this place and it was chaos, chaos, and I asked her. I was like, oh, please don't tell me it was a crowd killer, because that's what they call them. They call them crowd killers. They're these guys that will just run around and like punch all the people in the on the outside, the people were trying to stay out of the mash pit.

4:05 They just said, and this guy I hate those. Punched her right in the face, broke her glasses, made her almost want to cry. And her boyfriend saw it happen and his arm was broken, so he couldn't do anything about it. You know. For her, what I love that I saw. I think it was that download two years ago. I'm pretty sure it was. And I was in. I think it was to bring me the horizon pit, and there was this super big dude. Like I hate those dudes because usually they're the dickheads. Okay, Yeah, they just go in like I'm a big sea and I can beat up you little dudes, you know, type of thing, and not for nothing, but not in the pit. When it comes to me, I'm a little dude, and I'll come around like you won't even see me come in. I'll come lunge up like Mike Tyson from underneath you and elbow you as I go and I'm on the other side of pit before you even know, right. Yeah. So this guy, I mean, he was super big and you could tell he was targeting people. So this other dude that was big, not as big as him, but big enough took him out of the pit like literally like went in and started blocking him and then made sure he was out of the pit. And then once he was out, he like blocked him to make sure he couldn't get back in the pit. And I was like, right on, man, because that's not what the pit's about.

5:32 Well that's how I get too. I had one one guy at a show a few years but well more than a few years back, probably at least fifteen years ago, this guy was doing the old donkey kick thing. Oh I hate that, kicking behind him indiscriminately. Well you know what I did. I put my size ten shoe right up his ass. Nice kicked him directly in the ass. I love it. Oh that's great, hilarious, that's great. I hate the flailing and all that stuff. You know. That's what they call it fighting invisible ninjas. Yeah, and they look stupid and it doesn't. Have serious, serious shoulder problems when they get older.

6:15 Oh yeah, Well, I know. I sound like an old man saying that your shoulder listen. But I just had a neck injection yesterday because I'm going to cover ship Rocked, and uh, you know, I get the head bang and my head my neck so fucked up from head banging for since nineteen eighty. That bro, When is when is ship Rocked? It's been a couple of weeks. Oh is it the same time as seventy thousand tons of Metal? It's right before it? Wow. Yeah, me and Johnny are going to be on seventy thousand tons of Metal. And I was thinking of doing coverage for that one, and I'm like do I really want to go on cruise, get off one and get right back on the crew.

6:56 Yes, Yet usually of metals the best man, I'm. Gonna have to check it out. If this year, next year I'll have to. But I go, I go on tour, and I do all the festivals and here in the US, UK, Europe, and I'm like on my off season. So I'm trying not to like because come ap come April, yea, from April November, I won't have any free weekends. And now like post COVID, these festivals are four and five days long everywhere, right, you know. It's what a difference too, jumping just from three days to four days. We talk about it all the time. It's like, oh my god, that's like that one extra day is what puts you over the top.

7:44 I mean's seventy thou thousand metals five days. So there's yeah, and ship Rock is almost seven days. Well, I didn't realize it was longer. I thought it was the same. Yeah, and then so and then there's the pre party for ship Rock and then yeah, same with after COVID, I was at the hell Fest that was two weekends long. It was seven days. Yes, health Ust is nuts. That was pretty badass because it was separate. It wasn't seven days in a row. I rented an airbnb over on the coast and I went surfing during the week and Masham. That was the first healfest after COVID Lockdown.

8:27 I think that's the one Todd played and with Queen's right there. I think so. Yeah, because my buddy was like three sixty bands. Yeah, it was like thousand people he played. He was always healths always has like that many people. Was that the one? Do you remember if that's the one that Demons the Wizards headlined or one of the headliners. I don't think that was they were a headline, Okay, it was probably the one Metallic Metallica headlined it. Okay, Well yeah, they. Had uh go Jira like that was that was insane seeing go Jira in their home country. I think it was insane. Yeah. So you guys, you guys at hell Fest.

9:18 I mean, if you know, you know what, if you know who should talk to. I could probably get you an email of whoever does the booking. I appreciate that. Look into it. Yeah, yeah, and I also have I have close ties with Bloodstock and download. Bro get me. I played Bloodstock in twenty nineteen. Oh I love to go back. Uh not in this band though. No, I played it with my band Three Headed Snake. I think I I think I saw part of your set, because like I'll sneak at a media and catch sets of bands I haven't seen because I was.

9:59 In the the second tent, the big one, the big tent. Was that the year that Machine Head was a surprise band that played in the tent. I I don't know it was the year that Dying Fetus played because what happened was Dying Fetus got rained out and we got all their people spilled over into our tent because they started raining, So everybody came in the tent. So the tent was packed front to back. Nice. You couldn't have planned that anybody. No, no, that was That was a blessing, dude, it was. It was packed. Bloodstock is a killer festival. And what I also love about Bloodstock is, you know, going back to what we were talking about before, like they do the uh Sophie Lancaster stage, and they do all this stuff for Sophie Lancaster for those listening that don't know, you know, she was a goth metalhead and her and her boyfriend got jumped leaving the show and she got killed. Her boyfriend, you know, by luck of something, survived, and so they do something at that festival every year, and they even have the one day that's Pink Day, where everybody wears pink in honor of Sophie Lancaster. And I think that's so cool because that is a message we have to send that this stuff goes on. You know, we're talking a lot in the world. There's a lot of bad and hate, okay, but there's not a lot of talk

11:31 of hate against goths and metal heads and punks. Y. Yeah, that gets overlooked, ye because because they're the subculture and people don't care as much about the subculture exactly. There's a lot of community in it too. Like I remember when I was walking walking in to go play. We were walking through like the backfield area into the entrance, into the back entrance, and there was somebody just sitting there and they had a blanket and they had all of these belt buckles that were made out and I was like, Oh, are you selling these? He goes no, I'm giving them away because my uh my deceased friend made all of these and I wanted I wanted people, the metal people, to have them. So I still have it sitting on my shelf. It's it's like the Avenged sevenfold bat that's made out of right, I don't know what's made out of pop metal or something that this guy made and his friend ended up with all of it and gave it out to the people there so his friend could live on with all the other metal heads.

12:39 You know. That's yeah, it because we are a big family and to the point of your band, Okay, listen, I think people are so pissed off and angry after COVID because we had two years of no live music. There's no outlet, and you know, you go to these major festivals, metal festivals in particular, and there are no outsiders, there is no Hay. We're one big family, and it's really definitely something that the rest of the world could learn from, to be honest, you know, because because it's funny too. I had Okay, so I had one weekend several years ago that had to cover two festivals and one weekend, and so obviously I couldn't be at one of them. So I had somebody that was working for me.

13:34 I was sending her. She was a country girl and she had never been to a rock show, much less a metal show. Wow, And so I sent her and I told her at the time, I'm like listen because she's all scared, and like, listen, you're gonna love this. It's not like going to your country shows where rednecks are getting drunk and beating the shit out of each other. Okay, not like that. You're gonna find no fights. It's rare that there's a fight. Everybody's gonna hug you and everybody. You know, you'll probably meet some dude and you'll make all these new friends, and you'll see most.

14:14 Of these dudes, most of these big burly dudes have a kiddy at home and they love patting. They're kiddie. It's so funny because there's one of the other media guys I'm really good friends with, and he's he's a big dude, and he's always posting his Facebook about his kiddy cat all the time, you know, and he is like this just big cuddly bear. You know. Yeah, it's really how it is. So she goes and she comes back and she's like, oh my god, you were so right. Like, I have all these new friends, and I met a guy and he's my boyfriend now, and he goes have this favorite new band. They're They're called Bring Me the Horizon. I'm like, yeah, I think I heard of them.

15:04 They're They're not the only one whose favorite band that is. There's a lot of people's favorite bands. Well you know what's cool about bringing a Horizon? And I think I think that's who you should tour with just because of the meaning of your band name. Because I think Ali has some of the best lyric writing that I can relate to ever. Like, He's got one line that is my favorite line in any song ever because it's so good, and that's you can't I can't drown my demons they know how to swim. And I'm like, that is so fucking deep. Yeah. I wrote that song in rehab, like locked up, you know, and it's just it's amazing, like what is going on in his brain that he can transfer into a song that like so many people can relate to. Yeah. Absolutely, And so that's why I like you guys, because right off the bat, the whole message, because I'm a big believer in that music and art is the great uniter it is. That's why they say music sues. The comment savage beasts and you know it's funny. I'll tell a funny story. Uh lapping.

16:22 Just recently I met some girl on Tinder or something, and I'm talking to her and and you know, I always talk about, you know, what music do you like? Because if they don't like metal or punk, it's an iMac You're disqualified because you don't understand. It's not just about they don't like the music. They don't understand, you know, it's. At least they got to be open to it, right, It's deeper than that. So this this girl, she's like a she's a yogi, so she's supposed to be all zen and peaceful and stuff and spirit. And she starts telling me, yeah, if I listen to metal music, then it makes me want to throw things, destroy things, and get very violent. And I just said to her, and that's a you problem, not the music problem, because it doesn't make me want it true.

17:15 It's true. She just she needs to just throw on some ena and have a good day. I know, right Like, and she's like, Nama, stay to me. I'm like, don't give me that fake no mistay stuff. If you're telling me that you can't even control your emotions from a song to not beat the ship out. Of so, well, I think I think somebody like that should should listen to metal because they need to like have those impulses and learn how to control them. That's the key. That's the key, you know. It's kind of like Dexter, you know, you have to have the code. Yeah, but I agree with you whole hardly. You know, like if it's easy to control yourself when everything's calm and everything's good, like you can do that.

18:01 But like to me, metal doesn't do that. To me, Metal gives me this positive, euphoric feeling and gets me pumped up and my drones at. It's the opposite. It's, if anything, it tames the physical. No doubt. Yeah, yeah, you know emotional. Yeah, I'll tell you something. Okay, So this year or twenty twenty four, I was covering riot Fest and okay, ended up a few days before and before riot Fest my grandson passed away. Uh huh. So I had a lot of emotions obviously, and not good one.

18:43 I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, thank you, But here's what happened. I left the funeral and flew to riot Fest and went in the Slayer pit and basically took every negative motion I had and just left it in that pit. And that there you go exactly, especially especially in the pit. Sup. No doubt in the pit, no doubt about it. So let's talk about Hush album. Yes, But first before we went to talk about that, I want to say, Alex, your story is great because like I love that you were an engineer ended up in the band. Yeah, tell everybody how that happened.

19:31 Uh, okay, So let's see I actually speaking of seventy thousand tons of metal. That's where I met Johnny. What year was a Johnny twenty twenty? It was? It was uh, it was the the end of twenty nineteen into twenty twenty. It was the December thirty, twenty nineteen. No, no, no, seven seventy k' is not on it's it's in januey. Remember that Remember that year? That year was like the maybe it was January first, then it was it was, it was it was Yeah, I think I think you're right. Yeah, it was like right after the first Yeah. Yeah, so I I yeah, So I every year I go on seventy thousand tons of Metal for gear gods dot net. Me and my buddy Trey, we do a gear gods dot net for anny one who knows it and I met I met Johnny there through a mutual friend of ours, Brittany Uh, and we just hit it off.

20:25 We're all into the same bands mostly. We were talking about Symphony X and our love for Russell Allen, but you know other like prog bands in general. And I think Johnny, you asked me a little bit later if we wanted to like just not even it was even the morning. I think we're just working on a song together, like I just ow an original. Yeah. Well, it was during the pandemic, during the six week shutdown, and I hit him up. I'm like, bro, I'm so bored. Can we want to write some music? And he's like, yeah, I'm also bored. Let's do that. Yeah. Nice. So that's kind of kind of started. And then then yeah, from there, Johnny asked me if I could mix his, uh, the the album Hush. They'd already recorded it, but they wanted, uh, they wanted the mix to really be the best it could be, and uh so yeah, over the pandemic, we it took a while to like kind of get all the files over and everything I needed, and uh yeah, I produced the album, mixed it. I ended up doing a lot more than just mixing. Like I there's a lot of stuff that kind of got tweaked, some cuts ramped. Yeah, some stuff got cut, some stuff got added, you know, a lot of producer stuff to make something that, uh is my best How do I describe this my best interpretation of what Johnny's vision was? Like, I tried to understand what Johnny was going for the best it possibly could,

21:55 and then did the mix, the production, everything based on trying to achieve that vision in the eyes of people listen. In radio, like my engineers or's engineers that I've had throughout all the years that you know, I don't have to tell them anything, they just know me so well. And then there's others that I feel like I have to explain everything, and that's frustrating. You want somebody that can kind of get in your head, or you get the ones that they're all ego and they just want to do it their way, and artists, yeah. I unfortunately, I've I've been in that situation as an artist where I've been with a producer, well known producer, uh produced bands before, and I just didn't realize that he just wanted to do it one very specific way, his way. It wasn't about, Okay, what are they trying to achieve?

22:54 Right? Can I do to help them achieve that? It wasn't like that at all. It was like, no, they came to me because they want exactly my vision and everything has to conform to that, which was you know, maybe some bands do want that, but that that wasn't what we wanted. And uh yeah that was I found that one out the hard way. But me personally, I'm more about I want to make what you're giving me the best it can be based on what you want it to be. Yeah, that's the way it should be. The artist always be the artist. Yeah yeah, so yeah, and then that's how it happened. Uh. And then after that, uh you know, I've also I've been like touring bands, toured around the world previously with Wither Fall, and Johnny was asking me a lot of advice, like how what should I do to market this? How do I you know, it was the first album for this band, right, so, uh, you know, I just started helping him out here and there more and more, and then eventually he was like, we got to do music videos, right, So then I then I flew to Florida to film the music videos. Like so like three or four of the music videos are all like filmed and directed by me.

24:06 That's uh, that's why I'm not in a lot of them. Is except one of them, It's because I was behind the camera doing. The It was like there was really ultimately before you. Uh yeah, that was before I actually joined the band. Yeah, and then the one they eventually yes, yeah, and then eventually yes, this is the first song on the album, and then yeah, and then eventually it kind of came to this thing was like, hey, like you kind of do like all this stuff for the band already, Like do you want to just join? Yeah? And I was like I would love to because at that point I was basically rob Zombie. I was like producer, mixing, I did the music videos, you know. I was like helping with like all the band management stuff and the marketing.

24:56 You know. I was like, yeah, dude, let's do this. I love the music. Everybody the band is super cool. Johnny is an awesome vocalist and an awesome person. I was like, why not you know, like I love everything about working with this band. So yeah, see that's why I wanted to hear the story because I love. That you're making my heart meld, Alex. I love it. And so with Hush Album, I love the stories about about these two songs, Chaos Machine and the Mountain. Maybe let let's tell the stories of what those are. Johnny, Johnny, you go for it. So Chaos Machine is an observation on a certain mentality which tends to lean nihilistic and uh, and how that nihilistic mentality uh leads into their life and seems to produce nothing but chaos. So that's really what that song is about. It's an observation on just and and it's and it's it's written in such a way to hope that people can adopt a more positive Uh. I'm not saying you gotta be white pilled, but man, you gotta let go of that black pill. You know what I'm saying.

26:09 Well, think about it. Like that explains the world to a t right now. It's like, Man, I don't know. Like I told my daughter one day, some days I wish I could just drive down the road, take my laptop, my iPad, my watch, my phone and throw it all out the window and keep driving. She goes, Dad, who you king? You're just as addicted as anybody. I'm like, yes, but I was around before we had a this shit. And this is the problem with a lot of the world today. It's like, yeah, you know, just I can't and stand. I have to do it, and you guys have to do it for what you do. But I can't and stand and sometimes go on social media because everybody's just like, like all they do is negative stuff.

27:00 And like last year, I was in Costa Rica for three months on the off season, just getting away from all the chaos pun intended, huh. And my brother calls me one day right before I'm about to go surfing, and he goes, did you see the news? I'm like no, and I don't give a shit. I'm going surf and have a good one, yes, Because people are just so negative over everything right now. Not just them being negative, but everybody is making them negative about things that don't affect their life in any way. They or form like that's the most ridiculous part. If it doesn't affect your life, who cares? Don't obsess over it, don't worry about what somebody else says. Let everybody do them if they're not maliciously trying to hurt people. And if you don't like certain things, remove yourself from it or have some coping skills.

27:58 Yeah, yeah, exactly, just realize that go ahead, Alex. It's it's funny that you you mentioned, uh like wanting to just take all your all electronics and all your stuff and just kind of throw it away and kind of like live like life and new. We actually have one of the songs that got cut from the album is actually literally about that. It's called control All Delete, and it is just it's just about starting from from zero, and we do plan to eventually put that song out, but it just didn't make it on this album. But yeah, yeah, that's exactly what that song is about, literally what you just described. But I love that go for it. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's funny you were talking about.

28:40 Oh now now I totally escape my mind. I'm thinking about control Delete. Oh it just went that happens. Yeah, oh I remember. So you were talking about the uh, you know, getting in your truck with your laptop and your uh and and your and you know, your music and just getting out of there and not having a phone. Well, it's kind of what the mountains about. It's about. It's about going going to you know, going without all the trappings and going into the woods, into the mountains and finding God. It's about it's about finding the divine, finding you know, the you know, being one with you know, our Creator, as opposed to you know, being trapped by all the the things of this world.

29:31 You know. And that's that's what it's about. Because when I'm I go to the fam. I go with my family every year to the mountains and and when I go, man, I just feel like so so at peace and so so. There is some serenity to the mountains and creeks in the mountains and the forests, and like I just I love that stuff. That's why I love about Costa Rica. You got the beach, the mountains, the jungle and you know. You to beautiful place. I've been there actually, Yeah, and it's like you just feel like you don't give a shit what's going on all over the world because it's a bit sheltered from it, you know.

30:12 Yeah. Man, don't they don't have a military, do they? They know, they gave up their military to give free health care and also to get give free education. Your healthcare is badass. I could have testify to that. Yeah, yeah, because I had one year. I had a heart attack in Hawaii surfing, and the Hawaiian doctors American Healthcare screwed me up and they caused a second heart attack a year later by them misplacing stent, and the doctor cleared me. They didn't notice the whole year. Doctor cleared me. Okay, you're good. I went to Costa Rica. I went surf. I was on a ten foot wave and had a massive heart attack. I went to that hospital in Costa Rica.

30:57 The carreologists called my insurance company, my American insurance company, and said, hey, he needs this procedure right now where he's going to die. And they said, well, it takes forty eight to seventy two hours to process the claim and it's a weekend, so it'll probably be longer. In the carreologists like, you don't understand. The reason I'm calling you in several receptions is because he'll be dead by then. Nothing we can do. He hangs up the phone says, doesn't matter. Even when they approve it, the US insurance companies never pay US, and then what they did next was amazing. They put me in their social Security system as if I was assistant and treated me one hundred percent for free. Wow. Whoa, I'm not even somebody that lives there. And they did a way better job than anybody in America did. It was stellar health care.

31:51 It amazing. Yeah. Even my carreologists here in Florida said, hey, it's they did an amazing job. And I even looked at the bill if I had to pay for it. So the bill in Hawaii was for me was four hundred thousand dollars. Oh my god. The bill in Costa Rica that I didn't have to pay was fifteen thousand dollars. And they did more work in Costa Rica. It's amazing. Third world country, that's wild do that and they don't need a military, so that's wild. Wow. Right, you know you're make me. Want to move because there are there are mountains there, so I could. Uh oh yeah in peace there. Oh yeah, there's definite like it's all peace Like. Listen where I go, it's all dirt roads and the whole area goes down to the beach in two hours before sunset, just to wait for the sunset. Nice, Like that's you know, life is yoga and surf there and people are cool too, like like the metal community, like everybody's.

32:58 I forget this Costa Rica. Costa Rica stretches from the west coast to the east coast. Yep, I haven't done the Caribbean side. Yeah, all of the Pacific side. I was on the Caribbean side. Yeah. Yeah, I've been on the whole Pacific side. And like there's there's a place on the Pacific side on the Yosa Peninsula that basically next to the Amazon is the most untouched place on Earth. It's a rainforest and it's like to go there, you have to go with a tour guide. It's a wet dog. So you jump out into the water and there's crocs in the water. And oh my god. And you walk up on this saying you have a tour guide because like literally, either you're going to ruin the environment there or it's going to ruin you if you buy yourself. Yeah, Like we had a puma stalking us the whole tour.

33:52 Oh my god. But he knew how to handle that whole situation, so we never like worried about And then we were walking by this one bush. You couldn't even see it. I don't know if you know what tape air is, but it looks like a horse, Like it's like the size of a horse. It was lying down in the bushes like you couldn't even tell it was there. When we walked by, it got scared and ran like it scared the ship out of us. Wo. Right, So my. Trip in the I went to the rainforest on the other side, okay, Costa Rica. I don't have any crazy stories like that. It must not be the untouched one. It must have been, uh one that you know.

34:35 Was a lot of people stay the Caribbean sides, more of the ghetto side. Mm hmm. That's what a lot of people say. Yeah, that's it was beautiful. But like I went on the sky ride through the through the canopy. Yeah, and I didn't see one animal. Where I stay. I have videos of it. Every morning i'd get woken up by the howler monkeys. Oh and I don't know you've ever heard them. They sound when they're up close, they sound like gorillas and they're little monkeys. But you can hear them from like three point one miles away. Wow. And yeah, that's how it sounds when I do like a power metal yell. Right there you go, and there's all kinds of nature on my side. You see stuff all the time, like on on the Pacific side, So I want, I want to check out the Caribbean side, but I just cut.

35:26 I've covered the whole Pacific side. I've gone to everywhere the pretty much to go, and I found my favorite places. It's just like anywhere else. You have places that are okay, places that are great, and places that like like San Jose, Costa Rica is not places you want to go to if you're looking to go off the grid and escape. But like I go in the Sara and that's off the grid and you escape and all you know is peace and tranquility and yoga, surf and cool people and you know, it's like the mountains about my man exactly. And then it's funny because during the rainy season, okay, I was renting a car first time I was there during the rainy season. They have dry season, rainy season, and I like took the full coverage of the insurance and they said, I asked, now my covered for everything.

36:21 Because you go a place like that, you do take the full coverage. Because they will jack you, like you get flat tire, it's like five hundred bucks on some piece of shit car. And so he goes, Yeah, except if your car goes down the river And I'm like, what the fuck is he talking about? Why would I drive it down the river? Yeah? And then I found out because when it's rainy season, you have to drive through the river to get to the other side of the street. Oh oh wow, Yeah, it's a trip. A wet one. Oh yeah, totally. So let's tell everybody how they can reach out to you guys on the web, socials, check out the music, check out anything else you Yeah.

37:10 Yeah, the album's out. The Hush is out now on anywhere you like to consume music. We also have a physical album you and merch if you're interested in that, and the digital version all available on our website, The Morning Music dot Com. And we also have a band camp if you are a fan of band camp, but you can get the album from there. Yeah, it's pretty much. And social media is the same, just the Morning Music on all the socials, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook. Yeah, is there anything I'm missing, Johnny. I'm going to say something though, Yeah, call you people, that want to assume it's m o U morning, Yes, are morning.

37:58 Good point, it's not the time of time a day. It's not the time of day. It's the sad emotion there. It is like like it like in the movie inside Out. Exactly exactly that. That's how they'll remember it now. Yeah, exactly. Remember Remember that feeling you felt when when the imaginary elephant the dude disappears. It's that kind of morning morning that. Yeah, and they have to buy your merch or they can't listen to my show anymore. Guys, did you guys heard it? You heard it here? First, you gotta buy a shirt, you got hoodies. It's a lot of cool stuff. Yeah, but it'd be great if we can see you at a festival at some point.

38:42 Yeah. Absolutely, let's make it happen for sure. Yeah, sounds good as all right. Guys, Thanks for all you do and thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man. Thank you, yes, and hopefully we'll do it again next time. One's our new uh our new stuff comes. Out anytime, just let me know. Hi. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipemen on w for c u I Radio.