PipemanRadio Interviews The Glorious Sons About Glory

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0:53 And I'm here with our next guests, who we've talked to before, but they have some badass new music out now, so we want to talk about that. Let's welcome to the show, The Glorious Suns. How are you good? How are you doing amazing? I'm digging the new music that just dropped this month. I especially loved the title track, Glory. Well, thanks man. I haven't actually heard a lot about that one, so that's really nice you to say, WHOA, Well, that's good because I thought it was like just I don't know the best way I could describe it as like just a perfect song, especially nowadays, just the lyrics and music and everything just was like the perfect rock and roll song. Oh I love that, Yeah, that one. That one was maybe I think one of the catalysts are getting the album together. So yeah, thanks for saying that.

1:49 So which are the songs that people have been most talking about that from your perspective, Well, Mercy quite a bit, speed of like in Cellular, and then I think a lot of like you know, people that I know quite well, like not necessarily like fans, more of my friends, they've kind of they've been talking about Dream a lot, so nice. Which is the one you are I won't say favorite, because it's like picking a favorite child, but which are you most proud of or do you think most represents you and the band? I'm not really sure which one best represents the band because the band kind of you know, changes all the time as far as you know, sound and whatnot. For the album. I think one of them would probably be You Stay Young, just kind of like the ushering in and the use of the acoustics, but also trying to kind of balance that with a really ambitious, big sound. So that was that one was kind of is kind of exemplary of that. Nice. And so this is your fourth album. How do you think the process has changed for you as far as writing music album after album? Sometimes I think for artists. It's like, man, it must get harder and harder, because in the beginning you

3:19 have all these thoughts in your head that haven't been released yet, and then as you're going along then it's you know those all those thoughts have been out, so now it's all the new thoughts. Yeah. Well, I was talking with somebody the other day about it, and it does get I find like a little bit harder to write as you get older, And I don't necessarily know you know what that is, whether it's like brain function, whether it's when you're young you don't kind of think as much kind of thing. But I find that over the years, it's just kind of change in the sense where like album, the album has been different each time. Like Union was like everybody in the band room, throw spaghetti against the wall, see what sticks. And then Young Beauties was kind of I had all these folk songs and we didn't really know what to do about like trying to bridge this folk sound to a rock and roll sound. So then we actually when we got in with our producers, they really kind of helped shape and mold and kind of like find that sound on Young Beauties. So it was kind of like a bit of a happy accident. And then number three War and Everything was just extremely eclectic album and we had just gotten off the road, and I think we recorded it in two weeks. So just from album the album,

4:51 it changes. But I find that as long as you enjoy the work and you put the work in and then you also need to experience things like you'll be fine. You just have to you have to keep on writing, and that's the main goal. You know, you kind of you throw away the crap and if something's I always know something's good if I'm sitting there thinking about it. You know, months later or even sometimes years later, I'll be thinking about something and I know that that's that's kind of stood the test of time. And you know it's it's either catchy or it's beautiful or it's unique. Whatever. Yeah, there's no shortage of thoughts running around my head, that's for sure. And do you think okay, So I've been saying if you didn't take one positive have that whole lockdown period, it's that artist like you got a chance to jump off to hamster wheel and kind of like slow down and be creative. Like you said, the one album, you know, two weeks, but you know, being a lot of times that happen with bands because they don't have time, because you're just constantly from gig to gig and doing this and doing that. And so during that period of time, I think it was a height of creativity. What's your thoughts, Well, it was definitely. I wrote a lot during that period. I wouldn't say that my creativity was functioning as well as it should have been, though, because there was just not much to be inspired by. Yeah,

6:25 you know, if every artist would have just sat down and wrote, uh, you know about COVID, it would have been a pretty boring world, you know for sure. So I think I got a lot better as a as a writer and artist, and kind of got actually probably a lot better as a human being, and kind of like did some some work on myself. And I just feel like, you know, to your point, the time just allowed everybody to kind of take a deep breath, because before that we were pretty much on two of five years, like just constant. Yeah, it was like a hanster real it was like, you know, you're just chasing some golden feather. But the truth is we never would have breaked.

7:05 We would have never allowed ourselves to break so it ended up I think being healing for us in a way. And obviously there were some negatives about it too, because yeah, you know, people keep on telling me like you guys were set to do such big things before COVID or I didn't really even see it that way, Like I never blamed COVID, but it definitely it was a stifling period for you know, our our business, Like if you're in the business of connecting with people and touring around, right, yes, there wasn't much of that going on. Well, And you brought up a good point too, because when you write songs, you're inspired by the environment that's around you, the things you do, the adventures you're on.

7:50 So there was really none of that, So that kind of inspiration was definitely hard. So I'm glad you brought that up because I didn't really think that that way either, because it's true, like what else are you going to write about? And you know, if you're get writing about COVID, that that may not stand the test of time anyway, if everybody's writing about it, because ten years from now it wouldn't matter. Well, and you've got to live to write, right like you can't. You can't if if you don't, if you don't live your life and you don't have like personal experiences and you know a perspective that you feel like it is meaningful and rich and kind of I wouldn't want don't want to use a term vast, but just like a big perspective, then how are you going to write? You?

8:39 Everything that I feel like a writer does is kind of like he sits around and he looks around his environment and he takes it in and he tries to digest it and connect with other people and help other people digest their own lives through that. So as a writer, I'm always curious for people there writers, how do you pick things? Especially with you know, a song, you have to narrow things down. You can have all these thoughts, but if you wrote all the thoughts, it would be a book instead of a song. How do you minimize everything down to be so concise? Like I wrote run one song before with my buddy who was a musician, and I brought it to him. He's like, what is this a book? And he trimmed it down and he kept asking me, can we take this out?

9:26 I'm like no, no. So I always wonder how artists choose what to take out of there because it must be hard. Well that's just practice like that whole that whole process is like you know, if your tools sharp and your instincts and you trust your instincts, I mean, you just you just know what to take out over like after a while, because you know, you you don't want there to be a lot of you know, empty space. And one of the arts writing songs, I think is packing as much as you can into a small statement. Yeah, it's very much not like a book. Like a book for me, I mean, I don't know, I haven't written a book, but to me, that seems to be about more expanding, whereas I've thought fine songwriting is more about like tearing away and kind of making it as cohesive and precise as possible in short segments.

10:31 So but it all just comes from practice, Like you don't get better at anything without just doing it over and over and over. Yeah, it's pretty simple really, like you pick up on stuff that other people do and you you kind of you just keep writing, and you know, things get easier obviously. Yeah. Well, and that goes to your point from earlier. You know, as you evolve, you know, the writing new albums you know, like in the beginning, you're not experience enough that you'll just you know, whatever you wrote is going out there. Whereas I think as you become more experience and want to refine your skills and what you want to represent yourself ad I think you narrow it down a lot easier and a lot more to what you want it to be. Well, it's funny because there's actually an art to that too, like with like knowing that, like you know, your first thoughts sometimes is enough too. I probably like one of one of the issues of self awareness and you know, getting older is that you start to care about the energy that you put out into the world more than the actual world cares about that energy that you're putting out. You know, there's a fine balance to be stricken between you know, shooting from the hip and then also you know, editing and making sure that you're proud of your work because you know, we've released saw It. You know, I don't necessarily enjoy listening back to them, and we've released a lot of songs

12:03 that I love them too, So there you go. That's a great point. Yeah, And so you guys are on tour now, and so that's pretty cool, how and tell everybody how they can reach out to you and connect on the web on socials so that they can check out all the tour dates, get the new album, buy merch all that good stuff. Sure, it's just like a Glory Suns music or the Glory Suns. I don't really know, but it's everywhere. It's Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, all that all that crap. And yeah, we will probably be in a city near you. We're on a fifty seven day tour, so yeah, yeah, tomorrow you'll be in Tulsa next and on the first Phoenix and then on the second, which I was pretty excited about because that's my old haunt, the Troubadour as an iconic test to play for sure. Yeah, and then up in the Bay area August Hall and then Seattle, Oregon, Nevada, Montana, Utah, Colorado, and two Missouri dates. So pre cool.

13:11 I love the new music. Everybody's got to check it out. You have a final words you want to leave the listeners with no this, Thanks for having me and I have a great day, absolutely, and thanks for being on the Adventures of pate Man. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pate Man on W four CUI radio,