PipemanRadio Interviews Soothsayer at Bloodstock 2023

0:04 Hey, you listening too, that's sure. I'm coming from for see. Why wake up America, It's time for the Adventure. So pipe Man on w for cy dot com west pom Beats, his number one internet radio station. Here's your host, the pipe Man. This is pipe Man here on the Adventure pipe Man W for c Y Radio and I'm here with con from Susayer from Marlin's. You know what's so interesting about that that in my studio where my desk is right behind me, I have a painting that my father did. He's no longer with us, but he did it specifically for business purposes for me, and it's a sus Sayer. Oh really yeah? So how about that? Right? Oh look, well, I mean it was written there it is you know, we were meant to me. Yeah, it was written in the stairs. And I'll tell you another funny story about my dad. I'm looking at your vest and you have an upside down cross.

1:34 I wanted to patches. Yeah, so I'll tell you how stupid I was as a teenager. So I wanted to get my ear piers And that was back in the day where people didn't get pierced, you know, and like guys, you only got your left pierce if you're straight, right, if you're gay, and both, if you're a bisexual, stupid nonsense. Yeah, And I said something my dad before I had done, and he's like, uh, you better fucking not. I'll rip it out of your ear. And I did it anyway, of course, And it had to do it girl. You know. We were hanging out and she's like, let me pierce your ear, okay, And she did it with a potato and an earring and she just went and h But then one day it was a real windy day, I had long hair and my hair went around my ear and I walked in the house not realizing it, and my dad saw it. But here's the best part. I'm a Jew and I was wearing an upside down cross, earing the logic of a teenager. He was so freaking piss because he thought I was wearing a cross on top of it.

2:47 Yeah, like, Dad, you don't understand. It's not a Christian cross. It means satan. I'm not going against our religion. It's a solid logic right there, right Yeah, Yeah, Oh my god, I think back. I'm like, oh, my kids, ever try that ship. Satanism more acceptable than Christianity. Yeah, exactly right. So tell us a little bit about your music from your perspective as an artist, opposed to labeling it and putting you in a box like everybody likes to do. Yeah, yeah, I'm very very glad you put it that way, because I'm it's it's very difficult to put it. I think for most people it's very difficult to put their own music into a box and right say, it's straight up whatever, and it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be. I don't. I don't think it should fit easily into a box because I mean most of us as people don't. And I think music is a representation of our humanity and that should never be just labeled and pigeonholes. I love what you just said, the way you put it, that's perfect. Yeah, go on.

3:54 So yeah, I mean, like our I suppose our music is a reflection of our experience as individuals and as as a group. And so we've all had our struggles, and we've all had our successes, and I suppose our music is just a way for us to channel all of those feelings and to process them for ourselves as a sort of catarctic experience and to hopefully, hopefully or in an ideal world, someone who is going through some of these things might hear the music and it might you know, start to help them through it, you know. Yeah, So I mean that's that's it's a it's a big hope. But even if it just gets the one person, I think that's a job well done. That's all that matters. And you're right, because music's the best therapy, and if you're a true artist, you're writing the music for your own therapy. Absolutely, but then people listening can relate to it and it helps them. Yeah, yeah, you know, I think if you try to write it for them, it doesn't do the same thing, no, because it's not it's it's not coming from a genuine place, yes, coming you know. And I think that's something that's really really important to us as a group is to never really be looking at sort of what sells and what you know, what people want to see or what people want to hear, and just do our own thing and if if that attracts people to our music, then great, If not, fuck them,

5:27 that's right. And the bottom line is it's when you are authentic like that, Yeah, it's when it does attract the people we can all tell if you're full of shit, oh yeah, absolutely, yeah yeah, And there there are plenty out there who say similar things to what I'm saying and who are full of shit because their their music changes with the whatever's sort of in, right, So, which is unfortunate. I mean, how many bands do we all know that have had exceptional first two or three albums and then they just their musicals dogshit? Because they some of my favorites, I know, right, And it's heartbreaking when one of your favorite bands is started doing amazing things and then just start of does whatever the next fat is, you know, and then you're just like, Okay, I guess you're just those guys. Then funny story, you know, and I give them props.

6:21 But I was at the first Metallica show ever. Yeah, So I was a big time Metallica fan until and there were twenty five of us that used to go to our shows and then the Black Came album came out and we were all fucking poser sellouts yea. And so I bring it up to a point of your story because that's kind of how we thought of it. Was like what happened to that raw? Real, just real, Yeah, you know, I mean it doesn't even like I mean, there there are bands out there who are genuinely making their own music and it's it's not for me, but I applaud them for doing what they want to do, and that would absolutely support any band who who does that, even if it's not my thing, Even if I think their music is dog shit, I still think that it's important that they are doing what they're doing because you know, it's as important to them as my music is to me. So that's right, absolutely, And at the end of the day, who I am? Who am I to say their music is dogshit? Anyway, It's just an opinion, and I'm with you, you know, Like I would rather support a band that I don't like their music that's doing it the right way, then support a band that is just playing in what I called it's algebraic equation formula.

7:42 Yeah, yeah, metal by numbers, I know, it blows my mind. Like, who's never liked that? Metal was never supposed to be like that? No, no, yeah, it was meant to come from a real place, and it was meant to be you know, it meant to use it as a vehicle to say things that we probably are to load to say in in polite conversation. Yeah. So, I think even from a political standpoint, and it's a very important thing to have Metlin, to be able to have these places where we can say whatever the funk we want. And you know what's funny about that is you talk about the polit or part. And what's bottled my mind in the past few years is when did punk music become pro government? Yeah? It's pretty crazy, right, yeah, I'm like, the fuck, Yeah, that's that's a antithesis of punk music, I know. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's punk is uh.

8:37 I mean it's a counter culture. You know, it's supposed to so go against the grain, and it just all of a sudden, just flipped and it's like, oh, yeah, no, everything is good. We're happy with the current situation. Yeah, and you better listen to the government. Yeah yeah. Great. It reminds me of the hippies, because I don't know if you know this, but I've said multiple times the boomers were the hippies. Oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, you know, it's like, what the fuck happens with these people? It'll never happen me. Yeah, oh yeah. And it's interesting. I was reading an interview with Frank's Appa at one point, and the huge Frank's Appa fan, and he came out and said that what ruined the music industry was the hippies that you know, like before you had like this fat cat in a suit and you'd come in with some oil ship and just give it to him, and he'd like say, oh, I don't I don't know what this is, but fuck it. Yeah, let's let's give it a goal. Let's put it out.

9:35 Whereas you know, after like the hippie movement and all that, you had like all of a sudden, these long haired, sandal wearing guys who were sitting down as as company company execs, who thought that they knew everything, and they thought that they knew what was gonna sell, so you'd present them with something they got No, no, we can't put that out. It's not going to sell, you know, and they just stopped taking risks. And I think that's sort of what fucked us all. Really. Yeah, key word there. You gotta take a rest again the great music, in my opinion, or else you end up in the situation we are. We find ourselves in nowhere. You know, in pop music, everything is just a carbon copy of one song goes well, and then there's like twenty imitations. I even find ann metal now you're like absolutely yeah yeah. Back in the day, like you take the Big four fresh, they don't sound anything alike. It can tell them all part you take bands today, Like I said before, algebraic equation, it's like you can listen in ten bands, it's the same band. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's a crazy situation. But look, I think there's so much pressure, not not just in music but across the board for to be successful.

10:43 And you know, and and that measure of success for a lot of people is how much money they have in their bank account and and so that obviously influences them to go out there and you know, to to sort of say what sells, I'm going to do that and push that. It's like there's like I really love the Rolling Stones, but the Rolling Stones have almost become a tribute band at this point where and it's it's sad because they're amazing musicians, but they're no forced to go on stage and play like they have to play the hits. They don't have a choice, you know, Whereas like you take a look at let's say, Robin Williamson from like the Incredible String Band or something, who just goes and he'll like, he'll play in a dingy a dingy club, like an old blues club or something, and he'll he'll play like, you know, he might just take a fancy to Okay, I'm into Ecuadorian folk music this week. I'm just going to bang out a load of Equadorian folk music stuff. And you know, there mightn't be many people there, but like that to me is success is to be able to express yourself artistically and do it in such a way that, yeah, you might not have the thousands of people that are there to see the stones, but you know you can you can walk away from that and go I did what I wanted to do, and that's a good thing, you know. I agree. My viewpoint is either be one or the other.

12:16 And you were touching on point, and I was thinking to myself, Yeah, well I'm American, Like that's the American dream money period. Yeah, you know, you can paint it anyway you want, but that is all it is, you know. And I remember being a teenager, I was very involved in like the Sunset Strip metal scene before the hair metal and and then watch the transformation. And you know, my thing was to be in music, And when I saw that happen with hair metal, I was sitting backstage and watching these record labels telling these bands, Okay, you got changed the way you look, change your music, do this like fuck this shift, I'm gonna sell I'll just go into the business world. I'm not going to sell out the music world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's but I mean the two are so intertwined though the music world and the business world. There are sort of strange bedfellows. Well, I'm glad that you're real and your music is real, Thanks very much. How do people connect you on socials on the web? March? Yeah, I mean if you look for Sooths there Ireland, I'm sure that'll bring up absolutely everything.

13:31 Our best way is to get us on band camp. Obviously you can listen to our music there. Maybe you'll enjoy it, maybe not. But we're on all the usual socials and yeah, you can get us there. But there are two other bands called Suits there that we're aware of, one that came before us and one came after us. So it's so hard to come up with a band name nowadays, like because of that oh it's a bastard. Yeah, But so I checked out to see like if the name was in use, and I found that it was a Canadian trash metal band and they said, okay, they're not active, though I don't think so.

14:16 I have a friend who's like mad into trash metal. He's encyclopedic in his knowledge. So I was like, oh, yeah, have you have you heard of this band? And he was like no, And I was like, that's good enough for me. There you got using that name. I love it. Yeah, I'm a total frash metal head, but I like a lot of others. But yeah, at the core that's me. Yeah, yeah, but I love your attitude, which means your music must be awesome just because it's real. That's my opinion. Yeah, yeah, it's it's well, it's real. I don't know about it being awesome, but you know, I enjoy playing it and it helps helps me through the days. There you go, that's all that counts. Any final words you want to give our listeners with that we haven't covered yet, no, just yeah, I suppose be good to each other and you know, stick to your guns. Do what makes you happy. There it is, fuck the money, that perfect words perfect. I mean, thanks for being here at Bloodstock, and thanks for being on the Adventuress. You got it. Thank you for listening to the adventures of pate Man. I'm W four CUI Radio