PipemanRadio Interviews Silly Goose on Shiprocked 2025

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0:49 What I thought love like swim in the saw center chip pray you know we'll see you later the blood what I saw love. This is pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here with Alan from Silly Goose, Ian Binyon from Silly Goose. Nice and so. First of all, I was witnessed to Silly Goose the first time Danny Wimmer discovered Silly Goose when the parking lot was raided. As so old school. I like, I love that because I come from a time where all the bands did exactly that and what you guys do, and like I remember recently I think it was this last year at riot Fest coming out and Jackson's promoting the Subway show outside of riot Fest and those things is the reason I think you had such a meet and greet here because I'm like amazed.

1:49 I'm like, I was saying, I'm so happy for you guys that like, it's amazing. One day you're crashing a parking lot. The next day you're on a cruise ship with a line out the frickin door to meet you guys. How does that feel. The one word is surreal, right, It's just surreal. And there have been so many surreal instances that I've experienced in the timeline of being in this band, and it's just so heartwarming and it gives me so much hope for the band's future. But I love it. Yeah, I think last night was one of those experiences. I was at your show and I don't know if I can mention what I was doing at the end of the show in the middle of the. Crowd, but but we respect you for doing it.

2:32 Yes, But I was like yes, because I remember it's funny too. The whole time, I was like, man, I can't deal without having this thing that you would normally do, and I was like so pumped. But I also the energy you had in that room. Like I also told a bunch of people I know, I'm like, you have to go to see this show because they are like old school punk way back when and the passion you guys have. And I was even saying to person do a media with me, I'm like, you know, Jackson, he's actually a really nice, mild manner person like this. You see him on stage and you talk to him off stage.

3:18 It's like two different people, which is the way it should be. Oh yeah, So how did you guys feel about last night's show? Well, I mean, on drums, I'm already pretty pretty limited. With the way I moved, so I didn't. I kind of just had to express myself through my face and just kind of whack everything. But Ian, would you say it was like a little more challenging for you with the whole light bulb situation. Yeah, the light. Bulbs, Yeah, definitely. I went into it with the mindset of I probably can't move as much as I normally move, and that might hinder the fun factor for me a little bit. But after the set, it was just as fun as any show I've ever done, if not more memorable, just because it was my first time playing on a cruise and right, I was just so ready for anything that we wanted to do, so I didn't. I ended up having a lot more fun than I thought I would.

4:07 It was it was a blast. Yeah, it was a blast for me, that's for sure. And I loved how Jackson started talking about Oxymorons because I was at their gig two and I was there right there when the light bulb got smashed. And then I loved how Jackson like, Okay, let's move the whole crowd back beyond the light bulbs. We've never done that before. He was right, that was the first time we've ever like, get the fuck away from the stage so you can go crazy and not destroyed. Though it's weird too when you're the kind of band you are, because you're kind of band you want the people up there, so it's weird to do that, But you guys played it off great because it was still probably the most brutal set of the day.

4:48 So there you go. So you guys haven't toured with a lot of people, and I'm going to do something new with you guys that I was going to surprise Jackson and now he's screwed. You guys are lucky enough for it. Lucky. This is my battle vest from nineteen eighty one. Holy shit, have not warrant since I'm sixteen. I want you guys to hold it. Take a look at read the bands on there, and I want you to tell me. Each of you might have a different answer if you had a band that you would most want to tour with that's on that vest. Oh wow, which one would it be? So I got to inspect it. I need better lighting, right, And I drew all of that stuff.

5:33 Really, yes, I drew it all in. If you look at the patches, how screwed up you can tell they were in the pit. Ooh okay, I. Mean, dude, you can't not want to tour with Slayer. Right. Are they? I thought they? Well, actually they didn't for five years, and they played a couple of shows last year and they are playing Louder than Life this year. System of a Down. Yeah, System all right, that's one of my top five. So that's a great pet for sure. Yeah, how cool? Would that? Frick it be? Right? Just make it happen. I know we're putting it out there. Just to even see them would be like that reason alone, just so I can get to see them for free every night.

6:13 You know what. I saw them in Aftershock a few years ago, and the whole I never saw this happen in my life. Thousands of gigs I've gone to. The whole crowd sang the lyrics to every single song, the whole set. Like the whole crowd you couldn't even hear him sing because they were so loud, Like I was getting chills. It's like, amazing, That's not something every band can pull off. No, it takes a special band. And what does it feel what you guys are playing and you see people singing your songs? Batulous? Right, ridiculous. It's so insane for me to just fathom that some there's some kid in their room looking up the lyrics to our songs or learning them on guitar or something.

6:56 It's it makes me just want to do it more and more and more and never stop. Right. Yeah, And for the first time on this tour, in the song Tsunami, like there's a quiet part this singing. This was the first time we've ever heard like our fans singing that part, Like it's not the catchy part. It's the singing, like, Oh, I'm here to listen and vibe to the song and they're singing along. This was the first time I've ever happened to us on this tour. That must feel amazing. It does right for sure. So what was that one moment in. Life different for both of you that led you to be in here, like where you were in some kind of music experience that you're like, this is what I need to do. I've almost kind of always known.

7:37 I started with drums and then I picked up guitar, and I've just I've always known that this is what I'm good at, that this is the only thing I should be pursuing. I would not work. I'd rather be homeless than work an office job. I just can't nice, I can't sit still. So if this doesn't work out, I'm fucked. But it's working out so far. But those are the people that succeed because I'm also a motivational speaker, So I believe the only way to succeed is that thing to fall back on, because when you do, you fall back on it, you have no choice but to go forward. And I have to praise you too, because I played drums for nine years. Then I went to guitar just like you, and I sucked at both of them. So here I'm now I'm good at this, but yeah, it's a lot of work. I think people don't realize. I remember the day I heard about like, I was big into Randy Rhods, okay, and when I heard that Heat practiced for eight hours a day, I'm like, yeah, I don't think I'm gonna do that.

8:32 But also, yeah, that checks out because he's a fucking monster of ray. Like somebody that's a great guitarist or has the passion for it doesn't have to be great, the passion would do that. You have to practice like that. I think that's what people don't realize. They just say, oh, you're just picking up a guitar and like you're just having fun, especially when it comes to punk music, because punk's always been known as people don't know app later instruments, but they do learn them. You take the punk bands from when when I was a kid and how they are now. They're totally great musicians. Did they suck in the be be gag? Sure, but that's not anything. You have to learn your craft, and I think you learn a lot more playing it than reading it.

9:16 Oh, absolutely a thousand percent. Yeah. So how about you? What what was your moment? I played drums like almost all my life. My dad got me my first drum set. I was like, I was like eight years old, but I'd say I want't. I didn't take it seriously till I was like middle school, early high school. But I'd say the main to me, it was like a hobby. Like it was just like I want to just be good at this. I want something fun to do outside of school. But after I met Jackson and then we started doing street shows, That's when I realized, wait, like we could do something serious with this and go somewhere with this. So I'd say, yeah, the street shows was the moment I was like, whoa, we're doing something different.

9:56 We might make it somewhere do it. And those street shows were fun, aren't they? Like? For sure, I think when bands get big they miss doing that stuff. You know, you go and you're a band and you want to get big and play the arenas and play ship rock and all that stuff, but you don't realize that you're gonna miss those old days of like just playing on a street corner. For sure, the goal is definitely like here we are ship rock, playing festivals, doing big rooms, and then eventually amphitheaters. But I think we'll definitely try and go back to our roots whenever we can when it makes sense. We've had that conversation as a band of like, we hate this now, but we're gonna miss this, and then the moment you kind of know it and you give yourself the time to appreciate it.

10:38 Yeah, as much as you can one hundred percent. Yeah, even if it is really really shitty sometimes. Right, and it is. I always talk about that. People don't even realize how hard it is to be a musician, how much work you put into it. They look at it like, oh, they're just having fun and blah blah blah. Man, it is ninety percent hard work and maybe five percent of it is fun, but that five percent outweighs the rest of it. And if it doesn't, you're in the wrong business. If you don't have fun and passion for this. This ain't a business to being because everything else sucks, you know, And kudos to you, your dad, because the reason I stopped playing drums is I had to play that fucking practice pad for like six years, and all I wanted was a drum set to play for real. And I finally got sick of that drum pad shit, the practice bad Shit's.

11:35 Got a guitar. It was easier, Yeah, exactly. And then my dad, I was playing the guitar, and you could relate to this. I was just experimenting. I didn't know what I was doing, but I just wanted to hear what cool sounds I can make. And to me, that's what metal and punk is about. It's like, instead of going with some formula, you're experimenting to find out what can come out. I remember my dad yelling in the background, you shouldn't play guitar, you suck, and I'm like, I'm not trying to play a song. I'm just trying to make sounds. I want to hear what sounds cool. Well, you suck. Maybe you should learn how to play it. But that is how you learn how to play, isn't it. That's that's funny you bring that up because recently, a big approach of mind to guitar has been less what formal chords and melodic things should I play and more I want to make sounds that make people question how I made those sounds totally.

12:27 That's what makes them stand out. Yeah, you know, otherwise you just said, like look at Sabbath. Yep, there would be no Sabbath if it weren't for or Metal, if it weren't for Tony Iomi having parts of his fingers cut off and have to figure a different way and came up with a new sound like. Through used banjo strings, and that. Made them who they are. And I think that's true of anybody. You have to be unique. You can't. This isn't a genre that you can use an algebraic equation to make, which I find a lot of bands are doing that. Why you can try, but then you sound like everybody knows that. That's why I love you guys, because there's so many bands nowadays that do do that. And if you go back to my time and all the bands on that Battle vest there, you know, they all sounded different even though they were in the same genre. You could easily tell Slayer apart from Anthrax, yet they were in the same genre. Nowadays, what people said to me when they said, oh, old Metals sounds the same, Old Punks sounds same, and I'd argue with them. Now they're kind of right, because there's a lot of bands that just use its algebraic equation to make a song, and you guys don't do that.

13:37 You guys actually are artists, musicians that are creating music, not a math equation. Yeah, thank you. We appreciate that. It's important. It's very important to me. I'm an old school gatekeeper, like and like if this would have been the eighties, they me and my friends would be like fucking posers. Yeah, to those kind of bands, you know, and you think about it, you take the old school bands, like all these different sounds that came out of those bands were not something that were normal for the times, and that's what creates the everlasting and the long career. Speaking which, so.

14:19 In your career, now, do you see this doing doing this the rest of your life? Yeah, I mean as long as I can. I think the way I have it mapped out in my head, I would love to tour for the next decade. I'm twenty two, and eventually I would like to transition to producing for bands. That's that's definitely a goal of mine. But I think I still want to tour. I just I get a great enjoyment out of performing in front of the audience for sure. Or you could do like have you ever heard the band Oingo Boingo? Do you know? Okay, huh so they played in my high school gym, Yeah, okay, before and there and now look at Danny Elfman, like I went to like the biggest composer in history, and like it's just amazing. If you have asked me back in nineteen eighty when I saw them in my freshman Jim as Emily, Okay, I'd been like, you're at your mind, that's not gonna happen. And so I think that is cool too, because like, even though you're a musician, I think what happens to a lot of musicians as they're in the business long enough, they learn every part of the business. And I think that's what creates the longevity.

15:32 So story, one story, good or bad, that will be imprinted in your brain forever. In this whole silly Goose journey, so far, I have mine. I have mine immediately it rhymes with machete. Yeah, yeah, we're talking about I think it's fun. Yeah, I mean this one hit me as soon as that one was. Yeah. Maybe I think that might be a reason we're we decided to slow. Down and yeah, so this is a bad story. We put this in the bad story pile. Very long story short. We book a house show right outside of incarceration, and we promote it. We pass out fires, we invite a lot of people to this house show, and then we perform in this house show and it's great. People are loving it. It's the vibes are super intimate, super fun.

16:24 Four songs in, someone pulls in a sheety out of their jacket and tries to stab someone. Wow, And then the room clears out and that's that. It's just over. Like we and we tried to like just get our shit and move it, get out of there as fast as possible. But yeah, it was literally just like like our singer Jackson saw the machete and it was just like, Nope, this is done. Everyone get the fuck out. We're leaving, like we can't have fun anymore. Lives are at risk. Oh fucking wild man, Like I have ten million stories, I've never in any gig I've ever been to somebody pull out a machete. Like I've been at suicidal shows where they were washing with switchblades. Yeah, but a machete, Yeah, that's insane, Like who walks around with machete.

17:11 It was terrifying. It was not fun. Yeah, but that immediately, that will stick with me forever. First, right, I hope I don't endure anything like that ever. Again, No, not at all. So what else you guys got going on for twenty twenty five that we want to tell the listeners about. We are touring. We have a tour in April that has not been announced yet. Nice, and then we also have a handful of festivals. We're doing Sonic Temple for sure. Have you done that one yet? Not officially? That's cool, We've crashed it, but we have not officially done something. That's a cool one. It's pretty cool seeing our band's name and a little fun underneath all the bands that I love that I grew up listening to. Those are a blast. And then we have a record coming out at some point, probably in the fall. It's been written. We're actually right after ship Rock. We're flying out to LA to finish drums and vocals. This record's going to be a big statement for our band, for sure. It's the first full length under a label, and.

18:05 What you think is gonna make it different than before. They'll make the statement. The songwriting is matured. Jackson's pushed himself much more. We're gonna have a lot more clean vocal sections with the screaming, with the wrapping. A lot of the content caters to the silly side of Silly Goose, right. We've also found a way to tap into a more serious, almost more complex layered side of the band as well, which I think hasn't really been showcased yet. So I think people will like it nice. Yeah, I think the first time if I remember, because they all swirl on my head, that you guys crashed at Danny Wimmer Festival when Danny was watching you and put you on the stage. The next day, we were all laughing in media because there were geese back in media.

18:56 I don't know if you remember that, no way, Yeah, yeah. I remember that there were geese because it was really rainy. It was a rainy day. It became a much show at Yeah garceration. I was like, that's so funny because. It's a sign, right, it was an omen. That was it. That was it. Yeah, tell everybody how they reach out to you on socials, on the web, by your merch most importantly, because it's the only way bands survive and so everybody knows. First of all, they can't listen to my show if they don't buy your merch. But second of all, like these guys, they travel all over the country, not from a promoter, not from a record label, not even with any money.

19:39 Like they just get in the vehicle and drive with their shit and play shows everywhere. And man, like that is so cool and badass, and I think people need to support that. And nobody's asking don't give donations, buy merch because it's cool ass merch too. Appreciate it. Yeah, like it. In fact, it was funny because, uh, last time I saw you guys was right near where my studio is in westbom Beach at Respectable Street, which is one of my favorite venues, and you had one shirt I bought. It was funny because Jackson's let I wear mem He's like, I only got a large, you want this one. I'm like, no, I want that one because it's the one that it's blue and white with it as I think as the goose, I'm trying.

20:26 To remember in my head it's behavior shirt. I think. So yeah, I was like, that's a badass shirt. Thanks. So everybody go visit the merch. But let's tell them how they can find your merch. Connect with you on socials, see where you're playing, because it's not like they can look on Ticketmaster Live Nation. They have to go to your website, your socials and they'll see your when you're playing, where you're playing and all that. Okay, sure, our website is Silly gooseraprock dot com. Yeah you can find us. Our main social media is Instagram. We do have a TikTok, but yeah, instagrams where it's at silly Goose. At l cool. There should be a link in Sili Goose atl on the Instagram to take you to the merch so you can knock.

21:08 You can kill two birds, nice one stone right there. I love you. Yeah, do you have a favorite Instagram post that you guys did. Oh, that's a good question. See that's a See that's a great question because they're both pulling out their phones to look at their Instagram. Yeah, we'reigbors. I love it. I'll give you an honorable mention. Oh my god, this is. A great one. This is our Christmas post. Well that's pretty freaking cool. So we have a we have a fan page called Goofy Goober Goose who makes dedicated memes for us shout out goofy goober Goose, and we decided to post one of their memes on our accounts.

21:48 This one's cool because like Jackson's looks like Santa yep. And then you're the reindeer, right and he's the elf. Yep. That's it. That's the Christmas one. I love it. And you said you had an honorable mention. It's good because it's a picture of me and Jackson in front of the. First van we bought. This is like, wow, under our name. The first band vehicle, because me and Jackson started this band. So we've been at this for years and it's just so awesome. We'll finally be like, hey, look, we made enough money we were able to invest in a proper band vehicle instead of touring around in a Toyota Tacoma. So this post just means a lot for that reason.

22:30 Yeah, no way, I think's really cool too, is okay? So I just thought this last night at the show. Somebody OLA's stand with They're like, man, they're so young, and I have to say about that, Like I've been talking about this lately. When in the eighties, when I was a teenager, Like I went to see the first Metallic and Slayer shows. They were basically my age. The bands were. I couldn't imagine when I was at age going to see any band that was in their thirties. For these fifties, sixties, whatever. It is Like you go to shows now and like Slayers playing or Metallica, like there's everybody there. But what I love about you guys is.

23:11 All those bands are can't go away. And if you don't have any young blood coming in, what's gonna happen to music and what's gonna happen. In the genre. So you guys are keeping the genre alive because we need the youth to be playing music. Even though I love these other bands, they're not gonna be here. We need the past the baton, and we need more people. And like I'm hoping, like twenty years from now, metal and punk is even bigger than it is now because when I was a teenager, I can imagine being on something like this or Danny Wimmer Festival with bands I like because I used to go see Metallica with twenty five people, and that's what we need. You need young blood.

23:51 We can have the same stuff and so I love what you guys are doing. You guys are badass, and I've always been I pressed from that one show where you crashed and ended up on stage because that's just the way it should be. And you guys killed it here at ship Rocked. How you gonna how are you gonna out do that in your set? Next set? Well, the next set's on the beach. You can move, So we're it's chaos gat the beach will make the cruise look a little bit bad. We're gonna go crazy. And we have a song called Tsunami, So I think that's that's perfect. And I love that because when I do the punk festivals in California, they're usually on the beach, and like, it's pretty funny watching people mosh.

24:34 In the sand. I can't wait. I love it. Well, you guys rock, and thanks for giving us great music. And thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man. Thank thank you, you got it. Thank you so much. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pipe Man on w for CUI Radio.