PipemanRadio Interviews Siege Perilous

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1:00 We have some killer music that I think we kind of need nowadays with all the bull craft going on in the world. We need to escape and this is it. So let's welcome to the show to see of siege perils. How are you? I'm I'm I'm I'm great, Thanks for having me. Hey, my pleasure and uh so, yeah, I'm referring to you know the new song you about new album you got coming out, uh and basically the fact that you take us down a journey, a much better journey than real life is right now and yeah, yeah you know and it and it gives us also like the newest single is is like this thing about loyalty and brotherhood, which I'm all about, and we've seen to lose that in the whole world, like they've gone crazy. Yeah, I mean that's always been my like my biggest kind of draw to the genre of music. I mean, from the time I was a teenager when I first kind of started experiencing old school heavy metal and power metal, like the escapist element, but then yeah, also the themes right, like it seems about like courage, brotherhood, like all of these like super positive things, and I really really like grasped onto that, and I'm really excited to be able to, you know, contribute some of my own music and most importantly like the music that my friends have helped make. I mean this was primarily written by our guitarist.

2:32 I did the you know, the lyrics and things like that. But I love how much we work together, especially when you're writing songs about brotherhood. It'd be weird if it was just one guy. Yeah, And it would be weird if, like, you know, there's bands out there that are really there together but they're not together. That would be weird too. It's just, yeah, it's something that has to be real. Yeah. Yeah, I think about like you know, like Fleetwood Mac, you know, and how they they played together for years, but they would not talk to each other off stags, like, oh how could you? I mean, I guess you could do it because you're making a crazy amount of money. But but I think in terms of the enjoyment of making it performing music, like I always have to be in bands with my friends. I feel like that's a rule. Now I could potentially join another band and become their friends and maybe not start out that way, but like I couldn't do that, like for the long term with people who weren't like super close to me.

3:27 I think the music also suffers when you do that. So I agree with you a million percent. Number one, This industry is hard enough as it is. It's something that you have to spend twenty four to seven with these people sometimes, so like life would really suck if you're in this industry and it's not fun, because that's the most redeeming feature of this industry. Yeah, some sometimes you know, even like I love how fun our music is, sometimes even we have to take a step back and go like, okay, okay, let's recenter ourselves a little bit. This got a little not fun for a second. Let's step back and make sure that we're and make sure that we're having fun, because yeah, it's it's it's so much work.

4:14 And even when your music is like a little you know, kind of silly and fantastical, like, it's still so much work into a part of you that you're throwing out there into the world, and that not everybody has nice things to say. Yeah, So making sure that like at the core that like you're having fun with it is such an important part of that process. And and if at least you're having nice things to say to each other, like, it's pretty bad when you got all that negative crap going out in the world. And then it's also within the band, yeah, and it like we definitely have a very good working relationship with each other. I mean, I'm friends with all of these guys out outside of the band, which is good. And for the most part, they're all friends with each other outside of the band. Just a couple of the guys didn't know each other outside of the band until like they were both in the band together.

5:13 So right, that's the real difference. Yeah, And so I think going back to what you were saying too about you know, playing as somebody that would be in the audience. I can totally tell if they're the band's not vibing, and it's it's a totally different thing. Like it's totally different experience when you see these bands up there that you know they don't like each other, they don't even want to be there, and they're just going through the motions. I want to be a live show where the band is probably as much or more into it than I am, because that means, especially a metal like, you gotta be a metal head to play metal. Yeah, absolutely, Like nobody just like strolls into this, especially like it's you know, and particularly in our subgenre, like you've got to do it for the love of it, because there's there's not a lot of money in it.

6:13 There's there is a base of very good dedicated fans, but there isn't so much money circulating in this genre that there's like a crazy amount of people doing this as a full as like a full time gig, and so like, if that's the thing you're pursuing, power metal is not for you, But if you love the music like we do, then then it's totally worth it. So I have a trivia question for you. Oh crap, it's early but okay, yes, I know, right, Okay, So what band from the eighties was initially considered a power metal band because their genre didn't even exist yet, initial considered a power metal band and they weren't really power metal in my opinion, But I mean one of the thoughts because Pantera had during their glam phase, had an album called power metal, but it was not power metal, right, So that was one thought. That was one thought that I had. I mean, there's there's of course Halloween, who I think their first album came out in the late eighties and they're a progenitor of the genre. That's a tough one, right, yeah, because the only other ones I could think of are ones that like you would like you wouldn't have in the eighties said it was power metal, but you would today,

7:45 which would be bands like man O War or do oh right, even though at the time they were just heavy metal, because you we didn't have all like the crazy sub genrefication that we now granted a lot of forms that didn't exist, like metal, death metal was still developing, black metal, things like that. Yeah, it'll blow your mind. Actually, are are you gonna say like genesiss? No, no, no, But but that would probably blow your mind. Okay, So I was at this gig of this band that was our first gig ever in ol A, and the guitarists of the band came up to me after the gig, you know, because it's the way it was in o A back then. You hung out with the band afterwards, went walked up to the rainbow and stuff like that, and uh so hands me is business card. I wish I had it today, And that business card said Metallica power Metal, Dave Mustain. Yeah, I I should have because because yeah, that was that was a late Yeah, that was I forgot about that curses right, Yeah, that was that was a label that people had put on it or they had started to develop the idea of thrash right exactly. And so yeah, early, yeah, the early notion of power metal is what we would call thrash today and and now it's power metal. Yeah, is a different thing, but that's yeah exactly

9:15 hanging out and then hanging out with Dave Mustaine, I know, right, And you know what, it does make more sense today, power metal makes like the whole concept of what the genre is today makes a lot more sense than before it was even developed. You know, and they were calling bands power metal because to me, the whole idea of you know, the whole concept thing is power metal in and of itself. Yeah, I definitely think that, like, not that you can't make great power metal that doesn't revolve around kind of epic storytelling that that often takes place over like multiple tracks, right, but I definitely think that, like the storytelling is a huge part of it, and it's it's a huge draw for the people who really love power metal because it also kind of gives you that thing that it gives you that kind of invitation to dive deeper into a song because you're like, okay, so you know this this kind of goes back to you know, the CD booklets and the liner notes and things like that. We'd be like, so what is like, Okay, so I got most of these lyrics, I'm getting the I'm getting the gist of the song. What are like kind of the details of the song, And it gives you kind of that opportunity to deep dive a little bit more in. Yeah, I think it also is great because it's got like such a funny, as it may seem to say, an educational value to it because it is. It's storytelling with some

10:48 basis in reality of how things were at pointing. So it's kind of like gain a history lesson. Yeah, and you know, and we actually are. Our next single is History Oracle. It's called Across the Rubicon and it's about Caesar in the Fall of the Roman Republic. I'm a history teacher by day, so I definitely like whether we're just like borrowing ideas from history or whether we're telling actual, like stories from history. There's definitely like a lot of that. You know. Our last single that we put out, Sons of the Verdant, definitely took pieces from that story that we hear about, you know, all the time in history, which is you know, like native resistance to like to invaders, colonizers, that sort of thing, and so we you know, we took bits and pieces. But the other nice thing is that then you're not like borrowing somebody else's culture at the same time, you can just take bits and pieces from a bunch of different people's stories and kind of and put it to put it together, I mean, which is also like it's a common fantasy thing. George R. Martin did a ton of that in Game of Thrones, yeah, and you know it's I think it's interesting too, like the misconceptions of metal throughout the years, because people think it's just about oh, death, destruction, evil, and really even if you take some of the most evil bands or evil perceived Slayer as

12:20 an example, Hanneman was a total history nut, especially when it came to World War Two. So most of their songs are all about World War Two. And if you really read the lyrics. That's the problem with people outside of metal is they hear these things, but they don't take the time to really read the lyrics to find out that it's not really about death and destruction. It is, but it's against it, not for it. In a lot of cases. Yeah, I mean thinking about you know, Mega death right like peace cells, but who's buying There was a there was a great interview a few years ago with Nicole McBrain from Iron Maiden because he uh kind of become a born again a born again Christian. They're asking like, well, do you feel comfortable playing songs like Number of the Beasts. He's like, well, Number of the Beast is an extremely Christian song because what it all it really is saying is like look at how look at how the devil corrupts the souls of mankind. Like that's what it's about. It's not necessarily like yay yay say. And I mean there is metal like that, and there is some of that that is really really good, right, but most of it, you're right, Like, it's when when they're talking about these negative things, it's it's it's to point them out negatively, sometimes with maybe a layer of irony that not everybody that not everybody gets and maybe that's where some of the confusion comes in. I think, well, I love that You's Maiden as an example, because that song in particular has quotes from the

13:52 Bible. Oh yeah, it starts it starts off with they kind of mesh mash some different verses from revel relations together, WHOA to You, Oh Earth and see exactly total. So tell everybody how they can check out the latest single It's Badass Oath Sworn and your upcoming EP Creations Call coming out August twenty third, very soon, very exciting. So let's tell everybody how they can pre save the album, pre order it, or just connect to you on socials, connect on the web, all that good stuff. Yeah, so save pre saves for everything, should be up right now on Spotify. Oath Sworn's out now on all the major platforms, so wherever wherever you like to go. We do have a cool lyric video that's up on YouTube, so that could be a good way, especially to you know, just kind of get the get more of the story. Yeah, so we've got Oathsworn out.

14:54 Now, we've got Across the Rubicon, which comes out July something July, I believe it is July nineteenth. Nice Across the Rubicon, and then yeah, the full the full EP comes out August twenty third, and then you'll catch us playing uh, playing that Holy p the next day at the first Mile High Power Festival in Denver. You can follow us. We're We're on Facebook, Siege Perilous, Instagram Siege par Siege Perilous Metal. We're on TikTok At. I think it's Siege Metal. I always need to write these down on a little post it note, but I never think about in advance.

15:35 So yeah, I mean pretty much pretty much any major social media you can find us on where we try to stay active on all of those things and making that making that content for y'all nice. So what's your either most fun or or most embarrassing TikTok that you ooh. I mean, we've got some fun tiktoks. So I'm thirty six years old, So figuring out TikTok it was weird, and so I definitely think there's probably some some weird or more cringey stuff in the early like if you if you scroll back to like when we were releasing our first EP about a year and a half ago, because figuring out the format and stuff, and it's always I always find it super weird what works and what doesn't. Like I did for Sons of the Verdict, we did what I thought was was some great content. We were kind of running around the woods, I'm wearing elf ears doing bits from the song. I thought that was really fun and and those pieces didn't do super great. And then the other day for Oaksworn, I was just literally in the parking lot about to go into the gym and did some stupid lip synky stuff and that stuff is like triple what the what the other content was doing.

17:07 I don't know if that's a function of the song or it's just a function of how TikTok works. I still feel like I'm in that in that phase where I'm just throwing stuff at the wall and trying to see what sticks. It is kind of a game with all of them, right, they changed the algorithms that you gotta play this game, But it does feel weird. Doesn't't to be a millennial and be kind of outdated? And yeah, I mean the nice nice thing is the nice thing is we played music. We play music in a subgenre that skews a little bit older, like I mean our when I looked at like our Spotify numbers and stuff for Sons of the Verdant, like our our biggest age demographic was forty five to fifty nine.

17:52 I was gonna say power metals, like definitely, I'm a gen X or so it's definitely a gen X thing. And maybe you could even say boomer thing. Yeah, it definitely because I mean it, Yeah, it's it's stretches. It stretches back to the early eighties with with you know, with do oh and and Man of War and then you know and the new wave of British heavy metal bands like Maiden and Priest. Yeah, Like I wouldn't say we totally medal, but you can't have power metal without them. Yeah, And we totally considered Maide in power metal, like not exclusively, but even once Bruce joined the band, and every album was kind of a concept storytelling album. Yeah, I definitely think that like that was that was such a huge thing that that Maiden and and Dio really brought to the table, because you don't like I guess Judas Priest has done some of those, but I think the ones of those that they did were post nineteen were post nineteen ninety. I don't think any of the albums from the eighties had that, Yeah, had that kind of conceptual vibe to it. No, Well, your music is badass, and I think everybody should check it out.

19:04 And do you have any final words for our listeners anything we haven't covered that they should know. No. Like I said, we're playing Mile High Power for anybody in Denver in the Rocky Mountain region. We got the first inaugural heavy metal sorry Mile High Power Festival on August on August twenty fourth. It's gonna be really it's gonna be really big. I mean, we're playing, but I always tell people there's much better bands playing too, because we're like the very start. We're the very start of the day. But like we've got a lot of the other big US power metal bands coming through, so we've got Lords of the Trident, Judicator, Seven Spires, and ether Rema are headliners. So like, it's it's a really big lineup and tickets are only forty bucks for like a whole wow, massive day long festival of heavy metals. So it's a really it's like, it's a really, it's a really good deal and I want to see I want to see that place packed.

20:00 You can't even take an uber to a festival nowadays for forty bucks, so that's a good deal. Yeah. Yeah, it's like when when they were interviewing our friend Soorn, who like runs the who like runs the festival, is the founder of the festival. The people they interviewed were like, is it really only forty bucks, because yeah, usually it'd be two or three times that and then and it is an amazing lineup of bands, so love it. Well, excited for that, everybody. You'll have to go check that out for sure. And thanks for you know, giving us great music, and thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man. Well, thanks for listening and thanks for having me. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pipemin on W for Cui Radio