PipemanRadio Interviews Reverent son About Bloodstock 2024 and more

0:04 Hey, you have unto censure. For Wow, crazy Young. Whycome of America. It's time for the Adventures of pipe Man on W four c HY dot com West Pond Beats, his number one internet radio station. Here's your host, the pipe Man. This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here with our next guest again. We're going over to Pond because I'm supposed to be at Bloodstock this weekend having a blast, and instead I'm gonna be having a blast at my daughter's wedding. I don't know, maybe not my ex wife will be there, so maybe there'll be more drama than there would be a Bloodstock, But we'll see.

1:19 But I'm really bummed because So I was at grass Pop recently and I was hanging out with my friend from the UK Ween and we were talking about he has this thing called hell Fest at home, and then we were talking about me being involved in it next year, and then we were gonna do our own version in Florida together here. But he said to me, Hey, one of the bands that played at Hellfest at home, you know they're gonna be playing Bloodstock. You should talk to him. I'm like sure, And then after talking to my next guests, I found out there were there was a lie confusion with multiple people wanted us to get together. So here we are and let's welcome to the show. Ross from Reverend Son. How are you?

2:13 Oh, everybody from across the bond wherever you are? How going? So, yeah, it was pretty funny. You were just telling me the story about how you got two requests for me to interview you, but you didn't know they were both me, and it blew your mind when you found out, you know, the the six degrees of separation there. Yeah, so I'll explain how we When we do Bloodstock, you can heart you can get people who do stuff for you, like you interviews and stuff like that. And we've done radio interviews and we've got some interviews, books off we play and basically I've got around for the fact, you know, speak to this guys in the States something that's pretty cool, right, like you know is like well uk bare. So at the same time, a friend of us called Wayne, who would played his garden and stuff like that, had said, dude, I've got you this interview, right.

3:10 I'm like okay, okay, and he's like it's from the States. I'm like, oh, this is wicked right anyway, So I'm like, okay, I'll pocket that one and I'll saw them out. I had like a hernia surgery three weeks ago, so I was like, oh, while I'm recovering, I'll saw these people out. And I'm like, I'm putting the link in. You know, it comes up in the top of the screen, and I'm going, I'm putting the other one in and okay, what better. And I'm going these look the same. So I'm like, obviously I'm clicking on the same link from what so delete them all, put them back in. I'm like, this is coming up that it's the same guy, right, And so by some very strange and very small percentage, I don't know, there's probably people watching. This would be able to explain. I've got I know who lives seven minutes drive from me is now dating an American who apparently is a friend, a personal friend, not an internet friend, someone that you work with and has either lived locally or whatever. And he's now dating that person and then has been and I had now met that person, and so I have now I had two links for you from two separate, non related things.

4:28 It's wild how the universe works. I wouldn't even know what the actual realistic. I hope maybe someone can reply and say, oh, by the way, statistically, this is the chances of that happening. I think. I think the chances of that happening are less likely than winning the lottery. Yeah, but no, one's not going to win the lottery because you're very Actually you should be very lucky. You are my lottery. Everyone gets luck. And that this was it. This was the I mean I get it, like obviously, like metal music, alternative music works in certain circles. So yeah, there is a smaller chance. I understand that. But still, and he didn't know anything about the other interview. He would know nothing about.

5:13 That, No, he wouldn't. Two people have come to you and said how probably how many people do these sort of interviews? And now me, I'm like, well, now I gotta do this interview. Now. And there's something else I whant to bring up that's pretty cool. Okay. So I'm from New Jersey and there was this family in New Jersey that was on the Masquan River, which is a river near where I lived, and they got attacked by something in the river. And literally it was bad. Now there's this movie about that story. Okay, Now the movie talks about this great white shark and actually, in reality, you might not even know this is a bull shark. I know about bull sharks and yeah, and the problem with bull sharks is they go anywhere it doesn't fresh water, brackish water, Florida.

6:16 Problem, they get in and then they eat the crocs. Is that right? Yeah? Well, and see that's the problem in Jersey too. As they were in the river and his family was in a river. Never you're going to expect to get attacked by a shark, and they got attacked by a shark. And that's where the concept of the movie Jaws came from. That most people think it's a great weight in Long Island, that's just the stage of the movie. It is based on a real story. They caught a great white and it had human remains in I've watched the whole program, but they reckon that those whoe remains were probably someone that had died and then it just eat them. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, because there is a guy he'd be at a death with like an all you know, but that great white, I mean I heard even a great white sizes like me.

7:05 He's still gonna do a lot of damage. But yeah, it's probably fair. And bull sharks, man, I've watched during Shark Week because okay, here's where it's interesting to me again, more of the six degrees of separation. I am looking at the notes, you know, when I was getting ready to talk to you and about your stage performance for the lead track Circled by Sharks. And it's based on the Jaws movie. And I am a surfer, so I amazingly saw that. Yeah, and of course I know the Jaws story. And then I see your live performance, which you're gonna do at Bloodstock, and it's so funny and cool. They can throw inflatable sharks into the crowd. I'm now even more bummed. I won't be at Bloodstock because I want one of those.

8:01 Maybe it was so funny to lead to another story. At Grasspop, I was hanging out with these two girls in the machine Head pit, and during machine Head they were throwing out these balls, big inflamable balls, and so one of the girls. Of course, you know how we are as guys, Like a hot girl's gonna ask us to do something, and you know we'll stop everything and do it. So they wanted one of those. They wanted one of those, and I saw like I went and got one and like came the air out of it, like took the whole set. There was so much area to gate. I was like, you had to lie. I wish we had a video of this because there were a bunch of us in the middle of the machine head pit lying on these balls trying to deflate them as people are marching around us.

9:03 Yeah, yeah, I bet, yeah, but the worst something right. Yeah, that's why someone will go on eBay and say I've got. Nice So I want the shark from the Reverend Sunshell. I can send you on. They're not that great we get on Amazon. I could use it, Okay, so I'll be another festival in a couple of weeks. I can bring it to a festival and put it on the interview table. I'll give you address. I'll try and send you one. Yeah, they're not they're just like cheap, do you know what you say? That though, we we've got to look at trying to go to a wholesale which so you can get them on the on the cheap because you know we're spending like you know, three four quid pounds a shark, right, and you've got to remember, like, although we weirdly people give them back to us, Like this is a one way journey we've got.

10:00 It's weird that people give it back to you. Yeah, like we we're just like, no, we've got like, we have got a big shark. But I think we call it Lydia, right, I think this is her last show, so we're going to take her. She's like a giant shark. Most of them are like that. I think this is going to be her last I mean, she's done two years. We've asked this big shark. So we're going to sign it, pull our stickers on it, and then we're going to throw it out and be like because you know they only take you know, they're not designed for mosh pits, right, No, weird people throwing back and then we're like, yeah, no, I have to go home with these. You know, I've spent like forty to fifty quid on sharks and that's a loss. Right, you do it because it's part of the show.

10:46 Not one un Americans would not give it back, just saying right now, I don't want it about this British like that's mine. Now you're not getting it back. British people were like, I'm going to keep do you want this back? I'm like, yeah, I guess. First at first I grasp pop. I was laughing because I saw these dudes. They're not fighting in the marsh pit, but they're fighting over these stupid inflatable things. And then I'm laughing at them. I'm like, that's really ridiculous. And then when I went to get the one for that girl, and then I finally got sick of trying to get the air out of it, so I brought it back to Wayne and Laurie. Okay, So all roads lead back to Wayne, okay, And I brought it back to them the hole. And as I'm walking back walking through the pits, I'm having like dudes come and try to like rip it out of my hand, like it's just stupid inflatable.

11:45 Like you're looking to like beat me up over a stupid inflatable. But we can go into the marsh pit and not want to beat each other up. I don't know if you watched the ghost movie that came out right cinema movie, which oh I don't think I saw it. Yeah, right, So we for some reason. Didn't get the popcorn can and the cups and everything right to whatever in our local area. Obviously they would have been like, I don't know, twenty five quidy to get your cut popcornki. As we know, ghosts are very like kiss and the people that are into them are into I've actually got I probably can send you one.

12:28 I've got like an original. I've got about ten of them, original Trooper cups, the big black cups. When I made and first brought out Trooper beer. Oh, they did limited that. You could only rather have that than ghosts, right. But what it becomes is is they they become collectible. And in the last ten years fifteen years since I've done festivals as a as a kid, like I'm playing music and everything I've watched how what happens is is that that people have honed in on that what you and I would have just gone, there's a cup, and I gave them away. I got like like you bought you got one with every bit and I was obviously drinking like fifteen at the time. Stumpings. You know, people were just throwing them away. But that's the point. Because people were throwing them away, they'd become and you think anything that's collectible is usually because people threw it away.

13:24 But the toys people got rid of them, and now people are on eBay saying I've got this nineteen eighties to Transformers toy for under three year olds and people pay five hundred quid. That's a true story. I had a guy who's got one of the biggest Transformer collections. I work with him, and weirdly enough, while Bloodstock's going on in Birmingham, just next door is the Transformer convention and he told me that story, and I said, where he paid five hundred quid, it could have been two hundred uid because it was a limited edition under three years old Transforming there would have been what for the movie. I don't know when the movie came out. I don't I don't remember. I wasn't probably even born. But those things become a collectible because people threw them away. So the toy story toys that came out, if you are then a collective of toy story, they're probably what you're looking for. And it's the same thing, the same thing as inflatable, especially if if they've got the logo of the band on right right.

14:28 Yeah, So it didn't have the logo of the band. That's why I'm like, who cares. It's like just in inflatable. It's not like a machine head inflatable. You know, it doesn't matter because someone will someone out there will say yeah, but you know that would have been on eBay the next day to your point. Okay, you're ready for this. To your point. In the United States, most of the festivals were sponsored by Monster Energy drink. And what you would have back in press an artists area is the Monster Tour water. And it's just water, that's all it is. They don't sell it out there in the festival and I had who was it?

15:17 I think it was a daughter of mine. It's like, oh no, it was the person that runs by Louisiana Studio. She was like, you need to get me some tour water. And I'm like, oh, it's just water in a can. No. They are collector's items, you get. They're so hard to find and people are selling them on eBay for like five hundred dollars an empty can of tour water, Like it's just a monster a water in a Monster Energy can, and it's like it's unbelievable. The underground like thing with this tour water, but it's true you can't at it, and.

16:00 That I think Marvel did a lot of that for everybody, you know. And then you had the phone CODs come out, you know, yeah, and then you know you've got magic, the gathering, the card game, and they bring out it's all about bring out fifty of something, yeah, and then bring out three things that are limited. Yes, and bear in mind those I work in like a war games industry, Like you control what's limited, right, So they already control that. So they can sell one hundred thousand of this thing, yeah, but they know that there's probably only ten of this thing, and so that makes everything else then well people will want to collect to then collect these only ten. It's a whole thing, right, they control it and they know it, right.

16:45 Oh yeah, And that's a big part of like how when like you know, in the last fifteen years, I've seen the shift and it's like tour stuff as well. It's always been that way, but. You know, like it's just like it amazes me that Star Wars Finalia now it's more popular than when I was a kid and I went to the original Star Wars movie in the movie theater when it first came out. Yeah, and those toys you had that you just threw in the sandbox at the time, Now you look even like damaged ones, or like ones that have been played with. You know, stuff that I got rid of. I wouldn't even be doing this interview right now. I'd be retiring. I used to have the kiss trading cards.

17:27 I bet a lot. Now could you imagine? So yeah, could you imagine? You know, that's the first album I ever owned in my life that I didn't steal from my brother that I actually owned. No. Ready, I lived in Jersey at the and we went. I went with my brother's girlfriend to the Jersey shore to the boardwalk. Okay, we have a place called Seaside Heights, a few of them where when you go to the beach, there's a boardwalk and there's all it's like a carnival at the board at the beach. So there was this carnie game where you could win a record album. And I didn't have any albums. The only music I knew from was I used to rifle through my eleven my brother that was eleven years older his record collection. So I actually got, you know, into music that kids my age weren't into you know. And and it's funny. I just interviewed John Lodge from the Moody Blues and that first thing I said to him, and he just had a show that I went to. First thing I said to him is the reason I know you guys is because I stole my brother's album when I was a little kid, and listening to you guys, he goes, Yeah, our whole band is based on that. Like, thank god they all had older brothers, because all our fans heard our music from their older brother. Yeah, you know. And so I'm looking and there's this Really I won the Carny game, and so I had my pick of any album up there. Okay, I'm big into album art, Okay,

18:59 because it's the generation I grow up in, Like you brought an album based on what it looked like, because you had no idea what it sounded like. You couldn't hear the music first unless you heard a song on the radio. And most of the music I listened to you wouldn't hear on the radio like today, you know, like Slayer didn't play on the radio, Metallica didn't play on the radio. If they played on the radio, they were posers and we didn't want to listen to them anymore, you know. So I saw this album up there, I'm like, oh my god, those dudes look so cool. I must have been, like I don't know, in first grade. And it was the original Kiss album.

19:41 Like some yeah, yeah, when Ice Freely was really also like the first three albums, Ice was really on. It, you know. Oh yeah. We considered him one of the best guitars ever at that point in time. And Peter kres I started playing drums because of Peter Cris Yeah. Yeah. Look, for your generation, Kiss were. And I was from that area, you know, the New York band. They were a New York band, so like that was a huge thing while I was a kid and I was a Kiss fanatic, and I believe that's what led me to being a total frickin' metal head.

20:27 Believe is that that our generation there was a progression because you didn't have bands like yours. You didn't even have Like I remember, being a preteen almost teen, an Iron Maiden was considered like the heaviest, fastest thing there was, so imagine that. You know. It's like me and my bros. Today, Well, we'll go ride in a car Craig some old school music and I'd probably like, man, I could have sworn that was faster when we were young. Yeah, you know, but there were levels. So I went from like I was a Kiss fanatic, I became a Beatles fanatic, I was a Zeppelin fanatic, and then Sabbath fanatic.

21:15 And then Black Sabbath on the hand, Yeah, there it is. And then I found Slayer. Yeah, and that was all over. Man, I got stories about well, like Black Sabbath to me is I joke with people and I say, look, you know, I've seen Black Sabbath four times and I'm like, you know that has affected me. Okay, Like I don't how people talk about, like, you know, they have a personal relationship with like religion. I'm like, I have a personal relationship with Black Sabbath. And two, very not to bore everyone, the two very pivotal moments in my life when I was sixteen. For people out there by the way, early two thousands, like two thousands, two thousand and six was the last time that you had Kerrang and MTV and last did the generation you had Darkness just came out, you had Slash, just the last breath of the music industry anyway, won't bory you all about that? Uh, And a couple of things and obviously, and what happened is in two thousand and four, Yeah, I would have been I would have been fourteen or fifteen, started growing my hair.

22:28 I grew up in a household of folk rock and like States Quo and Queen right, so we had rock. Everything we listened to was was rock and was guitars but not heavy. You had the Osbourne's on TV. I didn't know Ozzie Osborne and Black Sabbath for the same thing. I know this sounds silly for kids now, but the internet didn't have Wikipedia, right, you know. I started my dad got me like an electric guitar when I was sixteen, and I played a bit of acoustic for a year before and like his old guitar whirs. And I learned everything in guitar magazines, which is usually when I quote quote, it's from these like Guitar World magazines from twenty years ago, fifteen years ago. So two things happened. You had the ten year anniversary of grunge music come out, and it was huge, like all of like Alison, Chains, Soundgarden, obviously, Nirvana, all had these big DVD box sets and stuff like all remastered, and they played it everywhere and I got into that. All of a sudden, the hair grows. My hair was actually a lot longer recently, but it was getting so scraggly. I had to trim it. By the way, my hair's usually down here, but it was getting rid.

23:48 Of I know that feeling. I've been there. Yeah, this is the first haircut in six maybe ten years, So apologies the short hair, but it's grown back anyway. And my beard was really big as well, but I thought unsorted the teeth yet, but typical British man anyway. So mister brunge, I'm sort of picking up guitar and you learn like dive and it's like it's really fun and it's really cool to not learn gus up. A couple of things happen. I go over my mate's house, right, And this is back when you used to like knock on there. You didn't even like ring that didn't have a mobile. You would just turn up, like at school or college. You would say I'll be over at Friday, and then you just turned up. Right. Mom's like he's upstairs.

24:31 I walk upstairs as I'm walking up, I'm hearing it. I get to the top and his uncle had given him a vinyl player and all the first six Sabbath outs you know, in Sabbath we trust. And I stood in the doorway. Yeah, and I must have stood there for like, you know, six seven. Well, however long Sabbath, bloody Sabbath is I'd heard paranoid, you know, because obviously you hear like all these scuzzes and you're like, you know, one from Metallica. So you start, you know, these bands, I'm not. And I started knowing that I wanted to get into frash. I just didn't know it yet. And then you know, I go over here. We get like, I mean, this is back when like four beers and two beers were shared was enough for you to drink, right.

25:18 So we sit there all night watching all the was it a Sultan Precinct thirteen? All the John Carton's and stuff. I've actually got where is he? I got Kurt Russell from the thing Wow as well. So we did all of that and we watched like Children of the Corn and you had all the old like earlier. He was very early eighties. But we just sat there and listened to vinyl and I was sixteen, sixteen, seventeen, so that's like, that's the first like movement in my life. I'm like, okay, Black Sabbath, and then I learned that He's like, oh, by the way, like you know, Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osborne are the same thing, and you know on korng you couldn't not hear crazy track. Then you go out and you buy like the Tribune album with Randy Rhodes off.

26:02 So I saw Randy Rhoads live, by the way, you saw Randy Roads yeah live, yeah, yeah, yeah. New Year's Eve. I saw Randy Rhoades live. Wow. That had blown my mind. So then you're like hearing obviously I'm used to hearing the Sabbath, you know, own, and then you hear the Randy Rhodes version, and I was like, oh right, bear in mind. I'm still listening to grunge music because of this ten year anniversary thing, and anyone my age would probably get it. But I started gravitating more to Sound Garden and especially Alison chains Is, Like they've got the solos, and I'm learning guitar. I'm sixteen, I've got my first I'm learning that there's this. So I'll tell you a very pivotal moment in my life, not to bore everyone. I started realizing that I wanted faster music, and hearing Paranoid by Randy Roads sped up was like, Okay, I'm loving Paranoid, but I prefer the Randy Rhodes version. And then he's doing all this crazy stuff and I'm like, okay, so I I buy a Guitar World. There's a very very good story. I buy a Guitar World magazine. The first one I ever bought was a double one. Some people in here will remember it, and it had Randy Rhodes on, which is probably where I got the Randy Rhods thing from. And it uh and then about three or four episodes late magazines. Later months, I got a magazine and it had you know, the

27:33 CD that comes with it, and the CD is the people from the magazine playing it, so it's not the band and there's no singing, and there's and they do like four bands and they and one of the songs is Hangar eighteen my megadeath Ah. Now I didn't I'd only heard of the Megadeth. I knew who Slayer, Metallica were didn't know who Anthraks were. Megadeth had come up in conversation, but I knew nothing about them. And there's this tiny little picture and it's David's day and he's got a high. I literally can see this picture in my head. He's got Harley Davison or bike. Again, there's probably someone watching this will be like, oh I know that that magaz anyway, and it's all tabbed out for you to learn, and I'm like, wow, okay. So I put the CD on and you know, as we know, Hangar eighteen, it's just like and then it does these two little solos. There's no singing, it's and it's obviously the guys from the Guitar magazine they've caught it, and it ends. So I played this CD too. It didn't work.

28:31 And then I remember my parents were like, here's ten pounds. You can go to your you know, South End on Sea, which is we've got the longest pleasure here in the UK, or whatever burns down every fifteen years. You can look into it. Anyway. I run in the store and I say, and I'm running around, I bump into one of the employees, HMV and he goes whoa dude, you all right? And I go I need Megadeath and I've got this ten pound note and I'm like mega Death and he says, oh, you want the metal section. He text me over there and he says, oh, the there's a two for ten pounds special. So I rite and I find and the only reason I knew Hangar eighted you know, you know, it was a tiny picture and it had the and then I'm like, got the CD and you see Rick, you know, Rick vic Rattlehead Sorry, and he's got like the Alien and I'm like wow. And then I'm like, oh, I better pick up another. And they didn't have many, and then it had a so far, so good, so what where he's like patrolling the moon with all the you know, grenades and stuff. I go home. I have one of them old silver CD. Oh god, we're talking about twenty years ago now. The CDs are the two speakers of the little lift. Everyone had one with the radio on the back that your mum had. I'd walk into the kitchen, my mom's like trying to cook. I'm like, right out, I'd put the CD in. I think Hangar eighteen is the second song on the album, and it plays, and obviously he doesn't really start singing for about a minute.

30:01 Yeah yeah, and then I hear his voice I've never heard papers and like, okay, a bit weird. And he's going like we welcome to and I'm like, oh, it's the Aliens. Like this is even better. You know, I kind of got that from the Hangar eighteen thing, but you know, it does the two little Marty Friedman solos. Yeah, and then as we know, there's then another five minutes of craziness. And I stood in silence, right, and I'd never heard you got to remember, like I had that grunge music like Navan, maybe a solo from Alison Chains or maybe a bit of Randy Rhoades, but I'd never heard someone use like, you know, in the Middle Eastern solos the harmonic minor for most of us to play guitar and stuff, and I I generally I realized at that phase it was like, at that point in my life, it could have been a phase yeah of you know, you're getting a rock and then you don't. And I went, I don't know what this is. And I'm pointing at the the you know, to make the music go back on, must have played that song fifty times before I heard Holy Wars, and then the rest of the app wanted to get lou Kreshier and stuff. So I'm like, what is this. It's like finding fire for the first time.

31:23 I've always wanted to tell the story to people, and I realized from that day on, I'm going to grow my hair, play guitar more. And I went and got lessons. And I'm not a very good guitar player, by the way, so please do not see that. And it completely changed my life. I Black Sabbath changed my life. I'm going to blow your mind now with three things. One is Blizzard of Ours. I had it on eight track tape. That was amazing. Okay, wait for it, mister Crowley cut off between the second and third track. And if you ever listened to eight tracks, basically they would fade out at the track and fade back in. Yeah, and it was never like the song never ended at the track, Okay, it basically always it was in the middle of a track. A track would happen in the middle of a song, and then you used to have to pick a match book, you know when they used to give out match books at like seven eleven. Stuff. And put it underneath the eight track to get it to play at the right speed, because what would happen is if you just left it alone a lot of times, it would like no, it would be slow. Really yeah, yeah, so you would have to like stabilize the eight track. Okay. Second thing is

32:56 I used to hang out with Dave when he was in Metallica. Wow, okay, oh god, you're like going way back. Yeah. He is one of my favorite guitars ever. And now going back to his singing, I have inside information about his singing. Okay, so when he got kicked out of Alcoholica, imagine this. Okay, we used to call Metallica Alcoholica. How much of an alcoholic are you when you get kicked out of Alcoholica for alcohol which is what happened. He got kicked out because he was too much of a drunk, you know, and they were all serious drunks. So if you're too much of a drunk for Alcoholica, there's a problem.

33:37 Yeah. So one of my great friends is Dan Spitz, former guitarison founder of Anthras. Yeah. Well, he's always been a watchmaker. He's like one of the most well known matchmakers in the world. So he told me one day a few years ago, he was like, yeah, Dave didn't want to sing, you know, he was forced to do Magadath and he confired, was like, I don't know how to sing. So he came up with this style of talking and yeah, in their conversation it was basically, we'll just talk. It gives me my green headache, you know exactly. So that's basically that's how Dave learned to sing, was just basically talking the lyrics.

34:32 I had to step up when we put our band together. I'm sorry to interrupt, No, it's good. And I was in another band and then you know, that was like a seventies rock band and kind of stuff, and then I wanted to put my own band. I love masterd On. By the way, we're like the Wish version of Masterdon. So if you can't afford Mastered On, just just hire us, right, Like why, I've got a couple of tattoos of early Mastered On work. Not the best, but anyway nice. And you know, I really I personally and our band's working more to I really like the fact that you know, the drummers the main singer now and at any point, what I love about Masterdon is that a. They are four very different people. I mean, Brent Hines is a massive influence. The whole banjo thing. I've picked up the banjo because of it, because he just as an individually it shouldn't work. And I remember I had to start singing to go back to the Megadeth thing. And originally the idea was that because I prefer playing guitar and I like beer, was like, we'll get a bass player come in thin Lizzy Mastodon thing. Originally that he was more of the singer, the master on basis and yeah, I'll do that. And then right like you know, and I just thought that would work because, you know, especially when you want to get more comp Katie to a degree that even though those bass players are playing very

36:04 complicated music and singing, which you know, I just thought. And then it didn't work and we couldn't get somebody, and so I remember sort of thinking, well, I also love Chris Holmes from WASP. I've met him a few times. Used to hang out with him at the mall. I have to say, great friend. He is one of the nicest guys. Oh he's a great guy. He had his own issues and he got screwed over to, but he. Put his own band together, and I was like, you know what, I'm tired of playing second fiddle and don't you know, and I've got this idea of what i want to do lyrically and no offense, you know. And I'll say this now, I hate singing. I'm a terrible singer.

36:48 I'm somewhere between black and Laura's motor Head and a breeze of block. I'm not a good singer. But I realized that I wanted to sing about Cyclops, like the old you know, the old Sinbad movies, all the Ray Ray Harry Howsen, And I was like, I want to sing about that, and I want to sing like We've got a song called Cyclops and it's all about sorry a sabertooth and you know, I did the Iron Maiden thing, like the first part of the songs from the point of view of the saber tooth and the next point of views from like the cavemen and the chorus kind of you know, very I was only watching it last night, the making of the number of the Beast, and you know, it's all that kind of stuff. And then I went to obviously did the Jaws song, you know, the Circle by Shark Song, and I realized that if I brought a singer in, I'd have to again, I wouldn't have that control. Yeah, and I've said, well, okay, I'm not the best singer. But also like again, I didn't want to be a five piece, you know, having played in another band, which you know was a really good band.

37:47 By the way, it was always about being logistically as simple as possible, being able to you know, I mean my band has done it. In the band I was in before, which is where I learned it from, was always about you could turn up with bare minimum gear. They'd say do you need a sound check or you don't have time, You'd plug in, you'd play and you would. And that's one thing I think we got us to Bloodstock was that we can. And it's not about they, but a lot of metal bands are very complicated with their equipment and being able to just sometimes turn up with like a guitar. I mean, I've had pedal boards die, so I've just sometimes gone guitar straight into the amp right like victory ants and you into a cab and then still be able to perform. Some people are like, no, I couldn't do that, and I'm like, I've learned that from paying pubs, paying basically toilets.

38:43 That's why I always loved about thrash because I'm a toall thrash metal head is. Basically they could just show up and play it. There was nothing fancy. It was just play fast and heavy. And I think the punk element that's what they took from it, right. Yeah, you like classic music, classical rock. We like punk. So we we obviously want to craft very well good songs and we want solos, but we we'd obviously don't want like a seven eight minute yes solo, you know, we want to go up there and have shorts a well. I mean I've seen am fras like five times and they've always delivered. You know, like you know, like I saw an Frax with the original singer. Wow, oh god, Neil Fallon. Wow, Neil Fallon.

39:32 You've been on the scene, haven't you. I went to Slayers first show ever. I went to Metallica's first show ever. That's where I met Dave. Okay, he came out after the gig because back in LA in those days, it's what happened. The band would come out, you'd hang out with them and it was a whole scene and he came out to me, I wish I had this today. I've told this in multiple interviews. When it comes up. He handed me his business card. Nice and it's said Metallica power Metal. There was no such thing as thrash yet, Yeah, Dave must stand. Could you imagine if I had that card today? I got I got something here, I'll send you one. We are this is our business card.

40:14 Oh, I love it. I love it. And uh, you know ic DC did this right where they play money and I got a little funny story about our business cards. So a guitar player, sorry to interrupt, by the way, I was like, go for it. A guitar player was we were coming back from a show three hours drives. One of they stopped off in another car and he he had a bunch of them business cards in your pocket. You know, you meet people, you say, hey, it's a business card. And and the thing is that if you give someone a business card, they'll just fright away. Yeah right, because we don't want I don't want to be sold anything in card. For you give something that looks like money. And again, if you're an American band, make it look like a pound. By the way, I would not go I would not go through customs with this because they would not enjoy that, right, trying to explain that this isn't real money, this is this is a busy because it's got like an email and everything.

41:13 Anyway, Oh well, people in the States that networking means business people. They will you know, like we have these cocktail mixers for business meetings and people will have those kind of cards. Yeah, put them on the bar and everybody picks them up here. People don't want them. Oh, people think it's money. Yeah, yes, we're capitalists. We're gonna see money on the bar. We're gonna go pick it up. And you know what, like my mate dropped like he went he went to reach it was like some oil station at petrol station, and he must have and he dropped a few on the floor, right, And he probably looked on the floor and didn't even or he didn't know, didn't matter. The bass player looks behind right as they're leaving the shop and sees a guy see it on the floor watching him leave, and just puts in his pocket. Right, So I'm like, well that that that means it works.

42:11 He's probably gonna try and use that and then realize like, oh, he's gonna like can you imagine trying the papers of it and being done for everything, like frauding money. But the point is, the funny thing is if you were an American and came over there and did that, you probably would think it's real money, because most Americans, like they see all this other money and it all looks like. Behind it to be you can't really see on the camera. But he basically designed this so unless you really look at it, like really read it at a glance, it's based on the dog. Again, if I did this in pounds, by the way, we would get in a heap trouble. I got a story. I got a story for you.

42:54 I've told this one before. So Aban has like a mascot we love. I made him. So we've got like a wizard mascot, which is like a Halloween mask with a cape, and like we throw the sharks in the crowd and we throw money in the crowd, and you know, everyone shoves them down the top and pants and whatever. So this just happened to me and the and the Basebo who was the drummer at the time. He moved on to base We got a we got a duffel bag of about like a thousand of these dollar bills that aren't real. We got like a cyclops Halloween mask, an Ironmonger, which is our mascot. He's got like a beard.

43:35 It's the whole Iron Maiden ripoff thing. And then we had I'd bought a creature from the Black Lagoon mask. Plus we've got like you know, all the other like you know, like bits of rope to keep all the stuff up for the So we're figuring that if we get pulled over by the police, yeah, and they say, oh, by the way, before we open your car up, is there anything you need to like tell us is that, Yeah, we have a thousand dollars in fake money, free Halloween mast gloves and some rope. Oh but it's okay, we're in a band. It's okay, we're in a beard that we're in a band.

44:15 Right, you know, and we're not looking like the most savory of characters, right. So we're thinking, like, if we get pulled over, like, no policeman's going to even they're going to take so you're too crazy that it's true or that that's made up, we're taking you in. You know, you know, into the big time. So you know, this is the kind of crazy stuff you don't think of obviously. You just think it's a bunch of fake money, and then you get pulled over because you've got a bunch of fake money. You know. I love it, and but it's so funny. Americans would probably think it's real. That's other money around the world, and it looks like fake money to us. Yeah, but but that is designed obviously, like over here, we wouldn't do that with like pounds. We had to choose something because originally we joked about it being pounds, and we were like, no, no, no, we could really get in trouble, really get in trouble, right, because then someone's going to try and use it, and then it's going to come back to us.

45:12 Yeah. You know, if you've tried to make something which looks like legal tender in your country, you're going to get in trouble. So we chose dollars, right because we thought that was the safest. But we realized if we ever get the chance to puy out in the States, it will have to be some Mickey Mouse, Disney money or something. I don't think it would be as a big deal here because we do that stuff all the time. We have Actually, you can get at the Magic Store a thing that sticks to your dower bills and people go like in the crowds festival or whatever and put it on the ground. It's attached to a string. Ah yeah, and then you put up yeah, and then you push the button. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen that done at festivals. You know. You know at festivals, they they do a thing a reward scheme. I went to download back many years ago, and they reward you for picking up all the cups.

46:00 Oh yeah, yeah, no, I've seen that because I do download everything. And there was a guy this was the last day, everyone's really drunk where he his friend would put the wire down his trowsers his pants, and then his other friend would put like grass over the wire and then you you know, we're talking like a good like you know, you know, five foot away or six foot away, and they would watch people try to pick up there and then he would yank it. You know. I mean I was probably like twenty two at the time, but yeah, that's what kind of stuff happens, right, you know. He's like this guy's got the big stack of him so he just kind of falls over. Yeah, pretty love it. I love it. Well, you guys are going to kill it that Bloodstock. I'm so bummed.

46:43 I'm not going to be there, but anyway, we'll see you somewhere else and at least me, but everybody else that's listening and watching. If you are not at blood and you don't have your ticket the Bloodstock yet, you need to go to bood Stock. It's one of my favorite festivals in the whole world to do. It's such a great festival. A couple of years ago we were talking about Machine d A couple of years ago they had the surprise band. I love that they have the surprise band. It was machine Head was the surprise band in the tent. Machine had played in the tents. Can you imagine machine had playing in a saw that she was there? Oh, it was insane. Just such a family atmosphere, meaning the whole metal family, great music, you know, a real metal festival in the UK.

47:39 It'sroots, like you know, because of not at Home when we got there through a competition and all the different counties that make up England, they really support that, you know. Well, that's what I love too, is that this Medal to the Masses. Thing is amazing because it it's bands like you and other bands I've talked to playing a festival and that just says a lot too. It's like the people that run the festival they care about music, they care about the local scene, and they care about Sophie Lancaster. So that yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know what, even the bands that don't win. When we did as we did a lot of radio and we said, look, you know, you've got to look at it like this, and my bear in mind, we did it the year before and we we got close and they said, look, go away, do this. So we went away and then played. You know, we went from playing seven gigs to like thirty plus gigs and then we did, like you, almost thirty gigs this year. They said, you need to work on your social media. I mean, if you're a band and you're serious and you're driven, and you do melt to the messes and you don't get through the first time, you can either sulk, yeah, or you can take the advice that they're giving you. And they're giving it as like an honest thing, and we did everything. They said, go and play everywhere, work on your stage act. Make sure.

48:57 I mean our social media was awful. By the time we went back to do it. In it we had great social media. We work with radio. We in the in a year and they and not just that. If you think about like Olympics, right, how many people compete for those four spots for running. But out of those twenty people, that doesn't mean the other sixteen are bad. So even if you don't win, if you're if you like, you have to say to yourself, but why I'm competing. I'm still getting offers and I'm still being in that promotion. And if you want it, you'll come back the next year and then you'll go right, we're going to hit the social media half. We've gone away and written some more songs that we think would be better for our airing crowd because every area is different and the bands that get through usually are the bands that have played it the first time, watched and listen to what's going on.

49:51 But at the same time, your bands still getting all the social media you get to use Bloodstuf. Even if you only get through the first time, you still are a part of the blood st process. That's so amazing. And you're the fourth band I've interviewed so far this year this year that played metal to the masses multiple times. One band they like, this was their fourth time playing metal to the mass then, you know, and I have so much respect for that because I'm all about persistent until you succeed, you know, if you it's what music's all about anyway. Like listen, there's no overnight success. Overnight success takes like twenty years. Yeah, you know Metallica play is slept on a floor for ten years and eight baloney sandwiches with no bread, Like you have to have that kind of dedication to make them music, have to believe.

50:46 By the way, I have to tell the story. I met Greenlung about four or five years ago in the Woodland Rights. If you don't know Greenlung on I'm playing twelve till twelve thirty and they're playing at twelve forty five. I met them on their Woodland Rights tour in South End Underworld, which is a very good venue in London, and they were opening for Puppy if that means anything to anyone, And they're like the second coming of Black Sabbath. And I don't joke about Black Sabbath by the way, So you have to check this band out. And they obviously started off trying to be a stoner band, and then they realized it's been done. And then they started doing about English mythology and all the hammer horror movies, which is what tattoos, right. You know, I've got like creature from the buck. Anyway, I got to talk to them, and I really must say this for people who are musicians, and I've been drinking. Anyway, they let me speak to him for forty five minutes, right, And the point being is is that they said to me, they gave me like the Ten Commandments. They said, you need to invest in your artwork, right, and we all love Iron Maiden.

51:58 A lot of bands will spend about twenty pounds on artwork on some just pay the artists what they're worth. Yeah, yeah, the bands that we like their artwork is and actually it's not that much. I mean, we've got some tremendous artwork coming out. And he's from America, is like a skater guy and he's done some stuff for Clutch as well. Actually, and you know he's only one hundred and fifteen dollars, right, nothing. They said, when you get your artwork, they're marketed. They said some other stuff. One of the things that really they said, you need to make your band every so like you know, when it's International Women's Day, Green Lung will say it's which is you know, it's Witches Day.

52:39 You have to make yourself relevant. And I don't want to go back to the Kiss thing and ghost, but a lot of people getting into music now probably was the same when you were hearing like Metallica in that you were like, I'm invested in these guys, right, Yeah, I'm investing right, and I accept that they're not going to always make every song the best piece of advice they ever gave me. And I'm really going to big up Greenlung because our band is now paying is planned the same festival fifteen minutes before they go on, but it not on the main stage. They said, well, you've got to do ross is that You've got to make sure if you're going to get a band of amigos together, you guys have to believe in what you're doing. And this is when they started the pagan thing, because their first EP wasn't about that. And then they'd obviously right, okay, we've got a voice er. I don't want to use a unique selling point, but not a gimmick. But this is what you are. And again, like you look at Macedon's first album and it's like really weird now to think they did that, but they obviously persevered. And again all these bands and green Lung basically said you have to be invested and that and you have to believe in yourself and accept that it's not always going to connect, but it will. If you go out there, you will find your crowd. Yeah, and if that means you've got to go play band. Drove on a Wednesday night. We finished work at five point thirty, drove two and a half hours north of London to a place called Northamptonshire, which is about an hour out from Birmingham, which is

54:11 birthplace of Black Sabbath Bloodstocks. Next to it, which is about three hours away. We played this biker bar to no one. Everyone was lovely behind the bar, he loved you know, everyone's friendly. Played to no one in this pub and then drove two and a half hours back. I got home at midnight and on Thursday I was back at work at eight o'clock in the morning. There it is, but that was what Greenlan had said to me, you've got to do it. It's not about it's not about then going home and going Oh but we played to no one. Okay we didn't, but we still that's still one more getting us closer to playing thirty gigs a year, right, which I think is pretty good. My minimum gigs a year is twelve times a year, that's once a month. Any less than that, I won't be in a band, right yeah. And I write, as you get bigger as a band than.

55:02 You do, have to have that dedication because like I played drums and then I played guitar. Uh, funny enough, first song I ever learned on guitar was Heaven and Hell. They wanted to teach me smoke on the Water like they teach everybody. I'm like, no, I want. I want to learn Heaven and Hell and But I you know, as much as I have a huge passion for music, I probably didn't have the enough of a passion to play music because I never really got good. I sucked at drums, I sucked at guitar. I sang thrash mellow for a while, sucked at that too. You know, and I'm sucking, dude, I'm not that good. Yeah, it's all about practice too, Like Randy Rhodes practiced eight hours every single day.

55:47 Is that true? That why I was on tour He would go and find lessons and end up teaching them instead of that's the story I heard, But then he was but he was dedicated to his art. Yeah, and look at my stay my Stain, Like, not only is he a great guitarist, but he studied like jazz guitar and stuff. That's why his music so different and so complicated. For one of the things that we try to do with Danny's the other guitar player, and he's phenomenal, much better than I've known him since I was sixteen. Actually, he taught me how to play guitar. Nice. One of the things we try to do is say, okay, for the guitar players out there, by the way, we try to say, let's write a song without using power chords, but let's make it as heavy as possible, so you you really are outside your comfort zone, right, but it makes you approach, which is like if you look at a lot of like Megadeth, like Lucretia Hangar eighteen in My Darkest Hour, there's some stuff off the Peace self peace sales has got lots of jazz influence. The guitar player's name.

56:53 And how about I'm killing there's my business. It's like so much jazz influence on that whole album. Power chord isn't that much if you look at tablature, you know, and we just said let's try and write. But then when you add a power chord in, it really hits right where a. Lot of it reinforces it. A lot of metal is just power power cord. I'm not having to go guys. I'm doing the same as everyone else. But you say, let's write a song with no power chords, and it's sound heavy, and you eventually do need to throw power chords in, but you then start doing like inverted power. I'm not a fiery person, so I apologize to anyone listening, but it makes you then write differently, and now I know I'm not a jazz fan. That is an influence from someone who listening to metal, who was influenced by jazz. And by the way, big Testament fan, Alex Alex Golnan, you had the singer on your just recently. Through my mind, I didn't I didn't realize how big a deal this radio show was and then Wayne said, oh, you know, he just he sent me a snapshot and I went, that's the singer from Testament, which you know, for some people doesn't mean anything, and I was like, yeah, it means a lot to me.

58:13 I was like, oh, this is yeah, this radio is a podcast radio. We want to call it? That is that solve it. I was like, Oh, this is the real deal. This is just like a radio from around the. Corner right respect By the way, well, thanks a lot. I appreciate if you go through. I have like over three thousand music interviews. I have professional interviews too, but three thousand music I've done Almost everybody I've ever wanted to interview, I've interviewed. You know what, respect to you that you'll you'll do not only someone who's in a massively named band, but you're willing to put the time in speak to bands that are asked the way I am. Nobody's really you.

58:55 Know that, And you know what, here's my philosophy on that, because that's the why I am like I do all the festivals and a lot of the other press people they love to cherry pick and then they end up with like one or two interviews, if that me Now in the States, it's different in the UK and Europe. In the States, they get the person running media sends you an Excel spreadsheet with every contact for every band playing at the festival. Yeah. Yeah. Most of the other media people pick all the famous people and that's who they'll email. I email everybody on the whole list as well. Right, I don't care who it is. I don cherry pick. And because of that, a couple of things happens. We're one, I'm respected by the festivals by doing that, you know. Secondly, there's a lot of interviews because I won't end up with two or three. I'll end up with between twenty and fifty.

59:53 And second of all these other media people don't learn, don't know how the game should be played. Two things. One is those bands you don't want to interview, they could be the next Black Sabbath. You never know. Okay, and I have bands right now that I interviewed them from the beginning, and they're friends of mine now and anytime I want an interview, I don't even ask. They'd come up to me to me, Hey, are we going to talk again? You know who'd I get real friendly with and every time he comes into Preston, he's like, hey, pipe man, he's the only one I'd ever interviewed my door Jelley Roll when he wasn't even famous yet that long ago. Wasn't that long ago. He wasn't even famous yet, nobody really knew who he was. And now look at him, he's like the biggest thing ever. You know, metal or not, it doesn't matter. He crosses every genre, which is what's so cool about you?

1:00:53 Have you in interviewed Jerry James Nichols yet, No, he's more bluesy, but he's a really nice guy. He's a really cool guy. And I have to interviewed some bluesy people like Lark and Poe who's big now. I interviewed them when nobody heard of them. And you know, so the other media people that are acting like groupies or fangirling or fan going out, that's what they're missing right there. The other thing they're missing is when you're approaching record labels, pr people, publicists like now, I have a reputation, so they come to me. But basically you got to do them favors first, so you don't go to them and say, hey, I want to interview. Rob Zombie say, hey, who do you need me to interview? Who needs the promotion? That's the key my job. The way I look at is my job is to promote bands, and that means the younger bands needed a lot more like Slayer doesn't need promotion. Okay, So my job is to promote those younger bands so that they could get to that level. That's the way I look at my job.

1:02:05 I no, I agree. We've got We've got a guy called Gary Bauers by the way, and he's the guy by the way in our local area. If you are a band planning on a Wednesday night and no one knows you are, he's the guy there, you know, get to you photos and videos. I think I know him. I think I'm good friends with them. Here's the one that does that magazine. Yeah yeah he did it. Oh cool on us? Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, so I've I've done. He introduced me to Electric call Boy because I was doing Download one or Bloodstock one. You're one of the two's I think it, but I can't remember which one it was. And he's like, come on, come with me, We're going to go to a gig. And they weren't really hurd of over in the States yet.

1:02:52 Yeahmember here either, yeah. Yeah, yeah, And he mentioned name. I'm like, oh, I don't know who they are, but I'll go I don't care. Was one of the best live sets I've ever freaking seen. I was like, oh my god, this is amazing. But he's the coolest dude man. Yeah, like and so down earth. Though. It's good to hear it from the artist's point of view too, like. You know, when you're when you're a band and you've got nothing, and you know, look, we've lost a lot of venues and a lot of promoters aren't promoting like it was six seven years ago. I mean I used to be able to ring up someone and say, oh, we can get you a gig, and a lot of those again because those promoters have got older and handed it off, and venues are struggling, like pubs and stuff.

1:03:34 So having that person that's going to watch like you're a new band, but like you're like a young band, or even me, like if I travel like three hours up to nowhere, they don't know who I am, and that having those people like yourself who are will get you some photos in cameras say, look, and you've played to no one. You did you know? It's the le anything where you played to the blind guy and the only person that could see you was the dog. We've all done it. The guitar player from these Wicked Rivers, he will be the same. I'm good friends with Aaron if you know who they Wicked Rivers are there. But you have to do that. But it's those men and women that will take photos and say, by the way, and you've played to no one, right, it's cost you like sixty seventy quid in fuel. Yeah, and you but you do a good set and then you go home. In the next night or next morning, you wake up and on Facebook or Instagram you see the pictures of you playing and there's some maybe recordings of you playing. Yeah, and that gives your band that social little boost to say, hey, we played here, and then you you know, people go, oh, I didn't realize you drove three hours and then back. That's the people when you're a young band, that really helps.

1:04:45 Yeah. Right, just going online and I'm saying you should go online and do all your stuff, but that those people are the real heroes for up and coming bands. Yeah, anyone for the record labels, the PR and the publicer too, because you got to help them out. So what has happened over the years is like I even give some of the publicists and record labels and PR people my link to schedule interviews, the same one that you use, and it's like they'll approach me. I'm like here, here's the link, or it's somebody I deal with. I'm like book whoever you want, like whenever you want, Like I don't even ask who the name of the bandit, I don't care. And it's those people because of what I do that they'll call me up or text me or email me and like, hey, would you like to interview Cheap Trick? Hey would you like to interview Rob Zombie?

1:05:42 Because I did them the favor first. The problem these other media people have to learn is like you can't go for the freaking elephant, go for all the peanuts. You'll get the elephant with once you have all the penuts. Everyone in the industry it's not just bands. Everyone everyone thinks about bands. It's about people, just the photos, the music videos, the studios, Like you're all working your way up and you you know, we're doing our album at the moment, and the guy who's doing it's really into our like he's like, dude, I love it. It's like, you know, you've got heavy metal. And then we the other week, even though I was recovering from a hernia, I went in and did all the acoustic guitar parts, right, and he was like, I can't remember last time I did a band that did metal. But then it's that seventies influence of like, oh, but we're going to add some acoustic guitars and maybe put them under this bit, and you know, and he was like, man, I'm loving it.

1:06:32 But like he's in his own pool of people like you are in the media. Like you're all in your own little circles, right, And then you get into the next phase and as great as he's like, we're playing bloodstock, but then you're again a little fish in another big pond. Right, You're just always the little fish trying to be slightly bigger. You can maybe eat the other fish underneath for you, but there's always a bigger fish. There's always a bigger shark, right, Like yeah, right, you know, so you know I get it, totally get it. We're all doing it together. We should all rise together. We should all help each other. And I think the whole world could learn from the metal community, because the whole world is jacked up right now, attacking each other, divided, And the only place I've seen in the past several years where people are united and nobody's an outsider is in the metal community. And that's because we all work together instead of working against each other.

1:07:34 Like for me, again, I could sit there and tell you about, you know, I religiously studied in these guitar magazines about things that you know over time, I couldn't just like learn you know again, even like an Iron Maiden song, I'd have to be like Quest for Fire and then realize there's a book which they then did a film. And again for me, I'm not saying every heavy metal alternative person is like that, but for me, it wasn't just enough to I. You know, I'm dedicated and I love it, and it's almost like, you know, I was listening to you know, the Maiden making of documentary and then there's the Sabbath one, and I probably watched these things like fifty times. Right.

1:08:14 Well, metal heads are totally like that too, like we're so passionate about it. When somebody says to me, I used to listen to metal, I'm like, then you weren't a metal head. Yeah, yeah, there is no use to it. You know, I'm not massively into school, so I get it. Like someone's into their football team and they you know, and again they'll they'll watch their football team do badly, do well. And I think if you're if you're passionate about a band. This again, this happened more in the early seventies. You know, Deep Purple could bring out an album like storm Rider wasn't about a storm Rider. Everything storm bring up. But it was okay because you know they'd say, well, okay, but Deep Purple's my band. I'll give even black. Sabbath brought some albums out of the time that I guess. I mean, there's been a I mean, I'm loving the Tony Martin stuff. And luckily he's had that recently. In the last six three months, he's had this huge everyone's come out and said, oh we love Tony Martin. Here shame it's happened to him so late in his great but there were the people that must have gone to that. Sabbage said, doesn't matter. Sabbath is my team. Yeah, I root for Sabbath. So if they bring out a bad album, well they're still going to go out and place heaven Hell and they're still going to go out and play paranoid. And I think although I'm not massively into sports, and again in England sometimes it can be fanatical. You could argue that some people might say the same about me. They're like, well, you know, you walk around, You've got this, tattoos and this, and you love this band so much you want to do that. Yeah, they're wearing a football t shirt. I think it's that,

1:09:47 you know, and I can recite. I can tell people, well, in this year, Tony Iomi did this right. But I talked to someone down the pub and they're talking about their favorite team, and they can tell me in nineteen seventy eight when they weren't even born what that footballer was doing. And when you know whatever, it's like the batting score thing, you know, And we're not really that different. We just like different, you know, I like my music. It's just what your passion goes towards and it shows in your music. So but everybody's going to check you out. Not only have bloodstock, but in general tell everybody, how they can connect to you guys on socials on the web, how they can buy your merch how they can check out and all that stuff.

1:10:28 We're bringing out. The album is I've just got to do the vocal. So the album is coming out at the moment. We've got a couple of demos out if you want to go listen to them. When you hear the album. It's coming out in vinyl, will be pre order. It's going to be amazing. It's again we're like mastered on from Wish, so if you like master it on, which is poor Man's version, we're going to be doing all the new We've got some new artwork. You're all gonna love it. When it comes out. It's all pre order. You can obviously listen to us and all the youtubes, and if you want to listen to us, go on YouTube because we've been playing so much live. Yeah that if you want to hear Circle by Sharks or Pieclops or saber Tooth, watch us on YouTube. I know that sounds silly. We've got a few demos that you can listen too, great, but if you want to hear what we sound like, go listen to that, right give us a couple of months or get this album out, then you can really hear what we sound like, right, And that's a bit old school. Most people would bring all their music out on the internet. And then so we decided no, no, let's play these songs for like two years.

1:11:35 So what you're hearing has been play I mean Circle by Sharks has probably been played seventy eighty times to people, maybe more. And then we're obviously rehearsed in all various so we're a live band and we're very proud of that. And I really feel if you go on YouTube and you watch us, you're going to get a better idea than the demos. Then just like take a little break from us. Promise me that you guys come back, you men and women out there, come back end of the year when the album drops, and then you'll go, Yes, you probably didn't hear that from many bands, but go do that. Trust me, you won't be disappointed. I love it. I love that you're playing at loves at Bloodstock and love it. And you may have set a record of like probably my second or third longest interview ever.

1:12:29 Wow, I can't talk though, that's my fault. We both can So that was problem. I had somebody. I have somebody in Germany that I was supposed to call after my interview with you, so she was expecting my call. I think like an hour and fifteen. My fault, No worry. I met her at Grass Pop. Oh okay. Yeah, it's kind of like the same thing with Wayne, because Wayne met Laurie at ship Rocked. You know, so we listen for people. People. You must go to festivals. That's where you meet lots of friends, lots of people. You can meet your next future significant other whatever. But most importantly, if you go to Bloodstock, you can go see Reverend Son and you will be in for the show of your life.

1:13:20 So thank you and thanks for being on the Adventures of Pipe Man. No, thank you very much. I'd love to come back on the show after the album. I'd love to drop you the album maybe ahead of time when it's out so you can play it whatever. Absolutely, you can drop me all the MP threes. I'll put it in a rotation. A couple of dollars as well, right yeah. Well yeah, it will cost me. I'm the one that asks to pay the royalties. You'll make like ten cents. Maybe I can get my teeth fixed. I know, right, and like nowadays it's like okay, I'll put you in the rotation and you'll make your two cents. I think it came up on our PayPal, you know, from Spotify, and it was like we made one pound sixty eight this year.

1:14:05 It is so funny. I do get excited with some of those. It's like such a little valvee of like, oh but it's cool that I made. That inflatable sharks. But that sixty eight there it. Is that made it happen. Well, you guys kick ass at Bloodstock and very much. I will see you live sometimes soon. Yeah, yeah, and we'll we'll catch up in a couple of months if you want. When the album's out, absolutely let's do it. Everybody make sure listen to them good Bloodstock if you if you're going go to their set. If not, check it out, get their album, check out their YouTube. You're gonna love it. Thanks for listening, and thank you again Ross for being here.

1:14:46 Thank you for having me really appreciate it. Thank you everybody. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of plate Man on w for CUI Radio.