PipemanRadio Interviews Quebec's BACKSTABBER About Harvesting The Weak

0:00 Hi, you have unto censure. Wow for you young Wake up America. It's time for the Adventures of pipe Man on W four c Y dot com. West pomp Beach is number one internet radio station. Here's your host, the pipe Man, oator Poor. This is the pipe Man here on the Adventure of pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And uh Man, there's some new music group Upper talk about that is right up my alley. Like I love all metal. No, let's not say all because there's something I don't, but thrash metal and death metal and black metal are basically my origins and my go to and this band is brutal and that is like the best compliment I could give them. So I'd like to welcome to the show.

1:27 Chris from Backstabber. How are you hello, I'm fine. Thanks. That's our Holy Trinity, eh, I know you got that to me. That is the Holy Trinity. Forget all the other bullcrap holy Trinity. That's the Holy Trinity. In fact, yeah, in fact, back when it was kind of it was a lot easier to even distinguish in some respects. But it was also because there was so little of it that they always did kind of no pun intended mosh together, you know, because like possessed, Like I went to see them when they first started, and there was no way else like them, you know. And then it's kind of funny because I was orient to Venom back in the day that was quote unquote the only black metal band, and now you talk to black metal bands now and they don't even consider Venom like black metal. So but this this new music, Oh my god, harvesting the Week. First of all, that title alone is badass. And then when I listened to it, watched a video, it lives up to that that name for sure. So tell us a little bit about that song. We'll start there, and then we'll talk about the new EP coming out as well. Excellent. But it's hard to talk about just

3:00 one song because this is a short epeed. It's four songs, it's a concept album. It's something that's been in my mind for a couple of years now. It's the book that I read called The Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield. Read that book a long time ago. Not metal at all. It's like a fiction novel about some dude having revelations about life and blah blah blah. But there's a part of that book where the author talks about control dramas. These are behaviors that you can use to drain people's attention and energy. And that was metal as fuck, yes, So like, look there's something, there's something to do with that. There's something to do about that.

3:46 And so there are four patterns. The first one is intimidation, and then you've got the poor me's, the people that are always complaining. Then you've got interrogation, and then you've got difference. And together they form like the official circle. Each father answers to the to the answers to the previous one and the next one. And then you go back full circle when you when you're in different how you how you bring someone back intimidation? And so here comes Harvesting the Week, which is the first song. This is about the intimidator. So basically it's as grouvil as it gets. See you know what I love about all of that. First of all, I'm a total metal head, but I'm also a motivational speaker, So like when you start talking about all that stuff, that's right up my alley too. And it also dispels a lot of myths about metal for people that are not into metal, like they think metal is all about oh death and destruction and satan and then blah blah blah blah blah, whereas a lot of the really good metal is about things from from book and from history and from real issues. Like you take my favorite all time ever band who is now reuniting for three festivals on on a tour that I do, Like I do a festival tour where I do radio coverage, and they're gonna be at three of them that I do,

5:17 and it's the only three Slayer okay. Now, Slayer always thought, oh, they're just about devil worshiper, Like, first of all, Tom is a born again Christian And we used to laugh about it back in the day that people thought that. But Jeff wrote a lot about World War two because he was like a World War two buff okay, And but people that didn't understand Slayer or no Slayer would have never thought about that, you know. And you know, you take bands like Iron Maiden, like almost every Iron Maiden album is based on a book. And there's so many of especially in the death metal arena, there's so many bands are writing about such intelligent you know, literature, and people just think, oh, they're just screaming.

6:15 Yeah, but as much as I agree with you, stereole dives are important. Yes, that's that's how you uh, that's how you think the posers out. Well, you know it's funny about that. Okay, So I forget which way it was. Last year at went of Festivals, I was hanging out with the bands and we were talking about like how people think us metal heads are so scary and all that, and he was going, yeah, let's keep them thinking that, you know, for the exact same reason you're saying, keep the posers out. We don't need to turn it into pop. Okay. That's why it's such an interesting topic as the one I picked for for Patterns of Domination. I kind of twisted sarcastically, so it's a handy guide on how to to be a narcissistic asshole. So he know it hasn't been at all. I mean, being asshole, that's not all. But but it's sarcastic. Don't be in that soul. Of course, I love it. I love it, especially since you know I'm from New York and New Jersey, so sarcasm is my first language. So yeah, so of course we're in the in the video of Harvesting the week we're promoting intimidation, We're like, I start your dominance, but but in fact of course be kind there you go, So tell us let's start first with is there some moment in time in your life where this just hit you,

7:47 where this is what I want to do and this is like my passion. It is a collection of moments. As much as it was the Christmas party back in the day where my cousins Pascal and Martin they were playing rust and pass on the guitar, and I was like, as much as it is back in high school when I played trumpet in the school band. Back then, our teacher was he wrote three songs for us to play. There were basic songs, they were exercises turned into songs, but there were songs nonetheless.

8:28 So when we played them live as an orchestra, we knew we were the only one playing that. So so that gave me the spark to create, I guess, and then the guitar for my cousins. The family brought me into metal as well. I've got some uncles that brought me tapes. If it wasn't for if it wasn't for any of them, I wouldn't be where I am now. I'm pretty sure I see. I love that because there are a whole series of events that land you where you are. And you know, it's even funny you're talking about playing the trumpet. I was in percussion in the school band and orchestra, and I actually at one point thought of I want to try the trumpet out. But what's funny is my favorite part percussion to play was the timpani. And then and then you take a band like slip Knot and I'll go see him. I'll be like, holy fuck, I should have kept playing timpani. I could have been in slip Knot. Ah Man. I just saw documentary on drumming the other day and it was about like, how back in the day a drummer, you need the drummer for each and every part of the drum, right back in the days of marching bands and stuff. Yeap, it took a long It took quite some time before Ludley came up with like real drums right exactly, trumpet and I did percussions as well. Yeah, and you know what,

10:01 when I first started playing drums, I had to play on this stupid practice pad and I hated it. I hate All I wanted was a drum set, and I didn't get a drum set. There you go until after the practice a couple practice pads, after playing each separate drums separately, like you're talking about, you know, And then I got a drum set. You know. It wasn't like my kids. I boy, I'm a drum set from the minute they could ask for one. Drums are so cool. It's a fun instrumentally. And listen, I give so much credit to drummers because the coordination that you need, like I didn't have it, to be honest, I was better at playing the individual drums you put the drum set then all together and doing everything at once. Oh my god, I have such I'm in awe of great drummers. And then like when Lombardo started doing the double bass, I'm like, holy shit, I can't even hit a single bass and the drum and the symbols at the same time. And this dude's work in the high hat and the double bass with only two feet, Like, how the hell has that happen? You know, it's just and now there's people that are just so even far advanced from that, like it just amazes me. And that's why I talk about what I did before is like a lot of death metal is really really amazing musicianship. And that's the part

11:39 where you know the stereotype's not wrong, but the stereotype does keep the posers out. So Patterns of Domination tell us about some of the the other songs on the EP and how they may be the same or different than Harvesting the week they are different. I love it. The four patterns are different, so it had to be different. So each young, each young has a different vibe. We've tried to explore, uh, to explore a couple of niche of some jars of the of the great genre that is death metal.

12:24 So on a harvesting that obviously that's like old school death metal a bit. There's a little trashy side. But we have long Sad, which is the second one. The titles in French, but basically dirty tons. So that's how we talk about people who always complain and have always shitty stuff to say. We can long sad, Young Sad, the long Sad, that's how we which there's a lot of them nowadays. Oh my god, I even thought COVID would cure the bit of music festivals and concerts, like because we got it taken away and they're still betching now, like Slayers reuniting, and there's all this bullshit people complaining, like who gives a crap, You're getting to see him one more time, man, Like why are you complaining?

13:18 I just don't like what you like. Like what you like. Leave the rest of them. Yeah, Lisa Holt, Gary's wife, had a perfect solution for those people. Just don't go. That's a simple you know. But I love that you have four different vibes because that's an hard thing to me. That's og okay. Back in the day, you know the band, none of the bands really sounded the same, and they would create different songs in different sounds, whereas I find a lot of new bands out nowadays, it's almost like they follow this algebraic equations, like they plug this formula in and it just that everything sounds like that. And you know, if you went to a gig that was like Possessed, Dark Angel, Slayer, Metallica, Exodus, it was like you were in multiple different genres, you would think, because they were all unique to themselves. Yeah, But as much as I like both, I like bands that are always evolving. But I kind of like some bands that put on the same album over and over again. Well, you do have to be true to who you are, you know, like Formulae didn't work on it. I mean that is as as cool as a bend that is trying to discover themselves. I mean exactly what you know, when you evolved, you say, as you be true to yourself. Yeah, when you evolve as a band, it just means getting better, not changing, you know. Like so you take a band

14:50 like Slayer, They're really not any different than they were that when I saw them the first gig they ever had. They just got be better musicians and you know, made it more more polished and more professional for who they were, you know, posed to some bands that like they go in a whole different direction and it's like, but that's not who you are. I mean, if that's who you want to be to begin with, that's a different story. But you know, like you said, the word poser that was big back in the day, and it's like I played drums and I played guitar and the I sang thrash metal and during that whole eighties scene, all I saw was all these bands selling out in the record companies telling them what to do. I was like, fuck this, and I stopped playing music because of it, you know, because I think you should just be true to yourself, like I was saying, and then people will notice. Yeah, but be true to yourself can be as much as staying true to your whole abbots or being always out discovering your stuff. So yeah, be who you are, whatever, whoever you are. That's right exactly. So so I guess well, I think also being a musician, isn't it about exploring what you can do? Like I said, I've said this a few times before, Like when I started playing guitar, you know, I was like just making all these weird sounds, trying to see what the guitar could do.

16:19 And my dad would say, you should give that up. You suck, And I probably did suck, But I was trying to find out what the guitar could do, you know, and what sounds I can make, and maybe some sounds I would make, I'd be like, oh yeah, I won't do that again. But then there's there's others where you're like, oh wow, that was pretty cool. So what about live shows? What what can people expect at a backstabber live show, they can expect a good time, that's for sure. I mean, I'm a smiley guy, so I mean I'm all is having a good time, always having fun. And the way we write our music, we always think about it live. How will it come out live? So even when writing a song, writing a bridge or a main riff or a verse, I mean it's it's always is it gonna be a head bangabull riff? Is it gonna be Is it gonna have the drive that we want? So? So yeah, basically our music is built to be played live. I love that you said the smiley thing because there's another stereotype that all metal head type, a resting bitch face.

17:36 Well, I mean yeah, I have to have that mean, evil look. I used to play. I used to play in another band before where I used to do these resting ditch faces, and I remember, was it hurt me at the end of the shows? I was like, it's not me right right, hey listen, But it would hurt because motivational speaker me teaches people that it takes sixty four muscles to frown and only twelve to smile, So why are you frown and it's too much work exactly, so only we love playing shows. And every song's not every song, but most songs they have these small parts that are made expressly to build up the crowd and either make people headbang, trash or just raise their horns anything. But we're always interacting with the crowd. So here's a good question. I've seen it, but not as a musician. But what's it like being them on stage, being a musician and looking down at a wall of death? Like the perspective from that point of view, it is. I like to go to both the extreme, but it is as amazing as it is terrifying. You

19:06 don't want to have anybody got getting hurt. Sure you want to, so that means at some point you want to people. You want people to have fun, you know, though you want them to mush and you want them to have all the bets. But yeah, but it is amazing to see when you see with the moment where people everybody's ready and they are calling, You're like, it gives me goose bumps. Like when we're just about to do it, they're just like ready and little pumped and stuff like, holy shit, you're talking about all of that I can't help myself. But thinking about the band called Neurexis. They're ban from Quebec. They came up with all of that back in early two thousands and I remember they had one and Randa ruin Miranda, which is our hometown. It's like four hundred people in the wall of that, everybody. It's amazing. It's on YouTube. You can find it if you want. But yeah, that Ruin Wow. So here, here's a good one for you. My daughter's bought Mitzvah. I moshed with the rabbi at the bot Mitzvah. It's like the meme with the Michuga somewhere. All the rabbis are like totally man, is that awesome?

20:33 Or what? Man? That was like the highlight of it, you know, oh man? So how do people reach out to you? Guys? Connect on socials? Check out your music, merch all that good stuff. We're boomers. We're still on Facebook. Well, we're all miss and her more on Facebook, but we're still there in Stagram a bit. We're also on YouTube and then camp for anything related to merch or anything. But if you want to have a chat with us, we're on Facebook and we're all easily reachable and well ready to have a chat with any of you. You know, It's funny. There's parts I hate about Facebook. But what I do love about Facebook is some of the things you can do on there that you can't do on the others, like uploading a shitload of picks, you know, without being having to be like a major amount of work. It's just like I go to a festival, I upload all my picks and I share that Facebook album with the promoter. It makes it real easy, you know. And I don't know. I just think I think people interact more on Facebook, but you know, maybe that's just me. But I'm on all of them, including TikTok, which you know, you're not a lot of time on Reddit because I really enjoy read it. It's text base.

22:00 I'm a reader, so yeah, I really enjoy read it. But have you like Cora too? I sometimes sometimes I read Cora, but I'm not on there. Yeah I do, I do uh read it. I do Cora. I do them all. I am, I got them all. But I still kind of stick to Facebook even though people. Even though people piss me off on Facebook, I still stick to it. I don't have a lot of conversation through comments on Facebook anymore. But I do have a lot of conversations through Messenger, Yeah exactly. So any final words you want to leave our listeners with that we haven't covered yet, h that they need to know, Well, we did not go through the whole album. We we just got uh, we we just got the diverted. But if you want to know more, feel free to come by, honestly, honestly, have a tell me more, tell me more now. I think they want to hear more now. Well, we were talking about Alongside, which is pretty much about the people complaining, so it's about social media and the musically, it's more into the core side of metal, the one that's generated the hate comments through social media. And then we have a Crawling through your Bones, which is about the interrogator, uh as much as it is about the

23:33 integrator the interrogator. When I wrote the song, I just once shot at it and then I looked back at it and I was like, it's it's almost like I'm talking about rape. I mean, it's the same kind of feeling that you get your intimacy violated when someone someone is just like asking questions just to get a hand up of you. It's basically the same feeling I mean, so yeah, crawling through your Bones, which is a little bit more into a blackened de metal. And then the last one, Snitches Get Stitches, which is about the in different people, and so it's it's really fuck up. I guess it's our most technical song. Okay, So I wouldn't say I wouldn't dare to say it's tech that because I don't consider myself as good as a guitar player, but definitely it has it has a hint of it, and I love the name. I got a friend of mine when I told her about that name I was thinking about it. She was like, is that like a rap song or something? Oh, that's so funny. I could see that too. I could see somebody thinking, man, that's so funny. But it was about indifference. But as much as it is in different Snitches Get Stitches, it's a mojo about the gang culture where keep it to yourself out. Yeah, So the less you say, the less you risk. Sometimes that's actually like a real real good words to

25:08 live by in every area of life, to be honest. Just like, just like we don't want these pop people to know that metal heads are actually nice people. Oh Man, wells are teachers. Most singers in Quebec are teachers. Really that our English or a lot of metal singers are teachers. Know that. That's pretty cool. On Facebook, I really enjoyed to read that bat from Ugary. He's it a history teacher. It's a history teacher.

25:48 Is you always have really fun stuff on Facebook. Honestly, he's a huge poster, so it's usually enjoyable to read. So I'm in I'm I'm in Costa Rica right now and a lot of your people are here, like a lot of Canadians coming out, Yeah, a lot, But I did like Montreal is one of my favorite cities. I remember back in the day I went to Montreal and I was I was a huge Devils fan when Jacques Lemaire was the coach and in New Jersey where I was from, you know, you had the rivalry between the Devils, the Rangers, the Islanders and the Flyers, and like very few Jersey people were into the Devils because you know, when you're like my age, you first were a Rangers fan or an Islanders fan, or a Flyers fan, and then became a Devils fan because Devils didn't exist like when I was a little kid, there was no Devils in New Jersey, so I was a Rangers fan. But then once I became a Devil's fan, it was like you would yell Ranger suck, and you know, he said, like the rivalry. So it was funny because I remember so clearly I was. I was at this bar in Montreal.

27:08 I was wearing a Devil's ski jacket, was in the winter, and everybody was so nice to me because I was wearing a Devil's jacket, and I'm like, this is strange. I have to leave my home state, home country to go somewhere else to be appreciated for my home team, because they all loved Jacques Lamier, you know. And wouldn't that have been the same had you had any Boston rooms. Yeah, no, that would not have been the same. As a matter of fact, I have a story about him where our main studio is. Jeremy Jacob's, the owner of the Bruins, lives there and he started this whole political thing there because him and the other richest guy in town have this whole rivalry and like they made the whole town paid for and he's an asshole. So I was really not a Bruins fan before, and now I'm like super not a Bruins fan. But it's funny what you said about being a Devil's fan, because back in the day there were no Devils here in Quebec. It's the opposite. We have kids who are Nordics fans. Oh really, RDIs they don't exist since I know, right thought? Yeah, I mean they were sold to Colorado.

28:32 They became the Avalanches, I know. And you know what's funny. Do you know where the Devils came from. They were originally from Colorado. Oh yeah, they're the Colorado team that moved. Oh yeah, yeah, so we got the Colorado team. You guys gave Colorado their team. Oh man, that's funny, you know. And I have to say, I've been to multiple areas of your country. I like your area the best. It's like, just to me, it's called the beautiful province that oh and then you know, like to me, I remember when I went to Montreal, I was like, this is what New York was like twenty years ago me and twenty years ago. Then when I was I was thinking about twenty years ago because it's like like what amazing say and what blew my mind was the underground malls, those twelve malls underground. I actually went through every one of them, And what a cool way to get around the city when it's freezing above above ground. So yeah, the city of Montreal is amazing. Yeah, exactly. And I just found the people, the city, the out, all the areas surround funding. And you know, I live part of

30:03 the year in Florida and party year out of the United States. And the part I live in Florida, the person my landlord who I rent from is from Quebec some like, surrounded by Canadians. I like them. I like them better than my people now anyway, because my people are becoming a bunch of assholes. Now, we've got a lot of Quebecers in Florida. They're called snowbirds. Yeah. So when you're coming over here flies out. So yeah, in Hollywood, Florida, near Fort Laurideale, it's all French Canadians. Like everybody there is a French Canadian. So there it is. Well and as much as we're buying walls, older generations are more unilingual French and so it probably speaks French a lot in there. Eh. Yeah, absolutely, I'm guess I'm guessing a good proportion of them does not speak English at all, probably probably not. Well, that's like in Miami, you know, Spanish is the primary language. English is second. I took my daughter someplace in Miami and she was trying to order and they didn't understand her.

31:18 I'm like, yeah, no, they don't understand English. Here here, I'll order for you. You feel just like Franco phones in Montreal sometimes really well, those that only speak French. Yes, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense to expect being certain English. And you know, it's funny because then you have, like I also cover Hellfest and so every a lot of people there. They don't like to speak English at all. But it's funny that the French in France too, that they sound different than the French French in Montreal, Quebec. And then I'm taking this like immersion Spanish class here so I can be even better. And there's a girl in there that she was speaking French, and it was funny because I was like, so, are you from Canada or are you from France? And she goes, I'm from Belgium. And I had forgot about that one because we had a studio in Belgium for a while and I forgot. Oh yeah, they speak French too, Yeah, yeah, and they have that, you know, the numbers and French. How fucked up they are. Belgium doesn't have that really. Yeah, it's called the vice Zimmo numerical. It's based off of twenty. That's where you got like four twenties for the number eighty.

32:52 Belgium, it's called octant which is octo from Octo eight. So interesting. Yeah, it's so wild to find go around the world. So yeah, it's so wild to go around the world and find how things are done differently, even like that's one of the reasons I'm taking a class here is because how they speak Spanish and Costa Rica is different than how they speak in Spain or Mexico or Puerto Rico. And I over the weekend I took a trip down to Nicaragua and they speak it totally different too, and they and they all have different words for things. Funny story, So we had this these Argentinians doing a show on our station because where our station is located is like a equestrian mecca. Uh and so there's a lot of South Americans there that are in the equestrian community. And one day they're in the studio and I misheard a word that they said, and I thought they said mota, which I don't know if you know what that means, but that means pot, okay, And then they had this stuff that looked just like pot, and I'm like, you can't do that in here, and this was like years ago when it was totally illegal, and he's like, he's like. They started laughing. They're like, no, it's not Malta. It's made which is this tea that Argentinians drink like all day every day. It's an urban it looks like it's pot, and of course Malta, mate, you know,

34:24 you can mishear that it was. It was so funny. But even now that it's been legalized in a couple of states in the US and Canada, it's been legalized for a couple of years, but it's still not as socially acceptable as speer. Let's say, yeah, in the States, it depends on where you go, because like in California, it's kind of ridiculous. It's almost too extreme. It's like people are stoned all day every day, and it smells like pot everywhere you go. You know, even like I went to a Rainbow on the Sunset Strip not that long ago, people are just seeing at tables smoking pot and I'm like, that's weird. Whereas now you go to Vegas, you can buy it, but it's illegal to smoke it in public. So if you try to smoke it going home, I mean they do it's Vegas, but if you try to do it going home, you're getting busted. Florida, it's still just medicinal, so there is no recreation and you have to get like a prescription, you know, which is really easy to get, Like you could go to these doctors they have and you could say, I stub my toe and they'll give you a prescription, and so you can ask how much you need per day, right, yeah, And the shit they give for the medical that's like the strongest crap there is, you know. And so it's kind of an interesting that

36:00 it's probably the same in your country and in our country, that there's no unification. Like I don't know, I just think it should be either legal or not legal, and it shouldn't be different everywhere you go. Personally, you know, maybe a little bit of a variation, but it's not like alcohol is legal at some and not legal in others and only for medical and others, you know. But that's what happens when you have a big country. Sometimes you have to respect that every states. I mean that in Canada we call that a separation of powers, right. Provinces have certain powers.

36:42 They manage education, they manage healthcare, and the federal manages like immigration and foreign policy stuff like that. But sometimes they have some money for some stuff or they want to push some stuff, and then provinces go, hey, it's it's our things. So yeah, and it's the same. It's same in the states. Like to me, I always think of the United States as every state is its own country pretty much. And if everyone that fell under the healthcare umbrella, so every partner said, hey, it's our things, right, so you can have like a federal exactly. Well, I think everybody needs to get your EP. Patterns of Domination badass and it has substance to it. And definitely, I mean, at the very least, get off this interview and go check out the video for Harvesting the Week and you'll definitely want the EP for sure. Yeah, it's out this Friday, March fifteen, So yeah, make sure you go atch that video. Amazing the producers they are. They do a really great job. Everything they do is amazing. I love it and it was. It was a great job.

38:10 So you guys rock I love it. I love your music. And thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man. Thank you very much, and thank you everyone for watching this. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipemin. I'm w for c u I Radio.