PipemanRadio Interviews Pupil Slicer at Download20

0:00 Hey, you love them too, that's sure. I'm come. I'm to see why for you. Wake up America. It's time for the Adventures of Pipeman on W four C why dot com. West pom Beach is number one Internet radio station. Here's your host. The white Man's outside right, throw right. This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures Pipe NW four C Y Radio at Download Festival, and I'm here with pupils like sir Katie.

1:06 Hello, Hello, Welcome to download. Yeah, we're pretty sick, I know, right, Well, maybe for me it's welcome to download because I'm I came from across the pond. I've been before. How are you finding your first downloads? It's not my first, okay, but I had to come across the pond. I do all the festivals in the States, but I do a bunch now in the UK. World. Downloads my favorite. They just they know how to run a festival. Yeah, definitely. I mean, and from a press point of view, they know how to treat press. Yeah, what about it's an artist, Like, what is it like being a download It's been really good, like Cam who put us on and he's been really like helpful. We get like meal tickets. All the staff and security have been like wonderful. Everyone that's really nice. So I mean, like I've got nothing but good things to say about him. Like from an artist point of view, it's been great. It was pretty crazy.

1:57 I mean there was a circle bits from the first note we've played until the end of the set, and we've never seen that before, so there would be crowdsurfing between songs, and I was like, cool, that's pretty wild. Right, Well, yeah, when they're marching and they're crowdsurfing when you're not even playing, that's wild to me. Yeah, they were. They were just just having a great day, that's right. Well, that that said something. That's a testament to you guys too, because listen, if you sucked, they wouldn't be doing that. Yeah I suppose, I suppose. So yeah, it is a good sign because you guys are a bad ass. So thank you. Tell us a little bit about your journey as a band to get to this point. It's been pretty quick. I mean like we only really started touring in February last year, so it's been a pretty it's been a bit of a rollercoaster. I mean it's such a more small amount of time, like the grand scheme of things like a year and a half, but to us, it feels like it's been like seven, yes, and we've come such a long way as performers and like cultivating an audience and like having fans that are like coming to like nine shows a year, and it's it's crazy, Like, I mean, we've done a lot in that time. We've probably played like fifty to one hundred shows just in the last year, so we sort of hit the ground running and we've just been like going as hard as we can. But you know, that's that's how you make it. It's all about that grind. There's no easy

3:27 pass to the top. Like you get the shows where there's thirteen people there and everyone loves you. You get shows where there's like two hundred people there and no one gives a shit because they don't they don't like your sort of music. And it's like you've got to play every show like it's download festival. There's no show that exists in a vacuum, like there might be someone there who you're their favorite band, and if you're phoning it in because none of the end, none of the crowds giving it energy, you've given that person a bad show and like all the fans are like I'd to give a show that's amazing for the one person who really likes us, then the loads that don't. But thankfully at Download it seemed like there was more than one person that likes us. Yeah, and you can tell, you can tell when bands down in it in you know, I look up there and you can delve somebody as the passion or they're just going through themotions. And it's important, you know, it's important, Like especially like we got back from the tour, and it's really easy to like when you're really tired, to be like, oh it's another gig to get through because we're just so tired we just want to sleep after the tour. But like you've got to still bring that energy, Like you've got to find a way to get it.

4:36 Like I wanted to come and see Metallicky yesterday, but I was like if I do, you know, it's not like as much as I want to come to the festival, but we're here to do a job. That job is to entertain people. So I stayed in, I had a bath, I just chilled out. I've got a bit of fomo from like missing Metallica. But it meant today I was refreshed. I got up stage and had like an amazing set. And if I'd rather have an amazing set than have a bad set and be like, oh, I'm just really tired and not have a good time, because I won't have a good time. The audience can tell if you're not having a good time on stage, they're not going to have a good time out there. So yeah, and that's what it's all about, like doing it for the love of the music. We're doing it because we love playing the music and we hope people love hearing the music.

5:25 I think that's what's most important in all of this. Like, and it's cool because after we played today, we then that now we're free and we can watch bands. So it's like, you know, you went like you went something, you lose some We've got to fly off. We've got to leave at three in the morning tomorrow to get to Poland for our next show which is tomorrow afternoon. So that's pretty intense, but you got rest again again. Yeah, as soon as we're done with these interviews, we're going to bed. That is a bit boring, but you know, maybe next year we'll get to just play download and then chill. They invite us back. Hope. I'm assuming they will bring it back. And I love hearing this, you know why, because the listeners, they'll assume that they're raying a band are just partying twenty four hours. It's like, I'm so boring onto our I'm not drinking, there's no drugs. It's just I'm like, oh, cool, we've left the venue. I'm going straight to bed and I'll get up as late as possible to like get as much resting.

6:24 And I'm like, yeah, I'm a bit boring like that, but you know, the energy where accounts which is on stage, I can't being professional not boring, Yeah, it's being professional, like I think it's. Yeah, I'm pleased we've managed to like take it this seriously because I don't think we would have made it as far if we didn't know, if we were just going on vendors and stuff, because like it would be really fun, but that's to the detriment of the fans experience. And we're here because of the fans and your own mission. You know. You know, you guys get to a certain point and you're not getting do that by not being professional exactly, you know, and listen, you wouldn't be able to last or a tour if you did. You know, we barely lasted through. So we just did our first European tour with the Boris, a Japanese like sludge doom metal band, slash heavy rock kind of band, and that was wicked and they were so professional. They were so kind to us and we learned a lot from them in that experience. But also seeing their professionalism and like just how nice and welcoming they were, that gave us the boost every day to be like we can make it through this ye because it was like twenty eight days on the road and it was intense, but like we're just about survived, and we were still putting on shows at the end that were as good as the ones at the beginning. So I love it because it is brutal. It is brutal. Some of those drives till like two in the morning after a gig, Yeah, some of those drives, Like one of the dates we were playing in Paris and then two days later in Cork in

7:56 Ireland, so in a day we had to get from Paris US to Ireland and that was that was a trick like we went from Klais to Dover, drove the length of England to Holyhead, then got on ferry to Ireland to Dublin and then drove to Cork and that was like sixteen hours of driving them one day. We're just taking shifts. It's pretty intense. But you know you do it for the love of the music. Well that's the key right there, and that's important if you're an artist. Like if you're an artist, that it's doing it for another reason. In my opinion, you're an idiot. Like if you're in this business for the money, yeah, you're in the wrong business. It's no money in this business. Warning to anyone else, Like it's a lot of fun, but be prepared to have no disposable income for the next seven years. That's right. I was just talking about in the last interview. You know Metallica played last night. You talked about missing but listen, they ate but Bologny sandwiches with no bread for ten years. Like people think that, oh they just became Metallica. Yeah, you've got to, like you've got putting in the work. Like the hope is that you keep doing this and then you get to a point where, oh, Okay, now enough people like our bands that we can sustain it as a like long term thing, and that's that's the key. Like, without people supporting us, we can't deal what we do. The only reason we're even able to do a tour like that is because our fans are really nice. They buy a lot of merch but we're not seeing any of that money. It's just going into paying for hotels, paying petrol, keeping the

9:28 van going and stuff like that. So it's like we're not getting anything out of it. It's just for the love of doing it. But we're really thankful to our fans for enabling us to do that, because you know, it's a dream come true. Imagine like we get to see the world for free basically, yeah, right, although when I say see the world, you see a lot of public bathrooms and a lot of the inside of hotels or just people's couches, right, And that's about it. And maybe sometimes on a tour you get like three days where you can spend two hours looking at the sites. Maybe you could catch a band, but not usually, not usually, but maybe that would come in future, because like when you've got more money, you can have a nightliner, which means you can sleep in the bus and then the days aren't as hectic, and like it's all, you know, it's all laying the groundwork for the future, for future enjoyment. Not that it's not fun at the moment. It's just it gets better with time, I think. But the work doesn't get any less, no, that's for sure. So tell me about the pin you're wearing on your shirt. The pin the safe gigs for women one. Yes, Yeah, I was just chatting with a lady from there and they were just they were saying about the sort of providing education of like if you see something like someone getting assaulted at a gig or something like that, or someone who's cleaning in an uncomfortable situation like tw intervene and stuff, and we sort of try and cultivate that at our shows, like a safe environment like you do get a lot of unfortunately, like a metal show, there is a lot of men around and sometimes some of them are as nice as others, and we

11:03 want to ensure that like when you come to one of our gigs, you don't need to be worrying about any of that, and cultivate cultivating a sort of atmosphere of of like respect for people and like not judging anyone what they look like or who they are. That's really important to us as a band. You wouldn't think that you'd even have to tell people either. It's like you'd have to tell people, but it's just stupid. Yeah, yeah, like just have respect, you know, and I mean you don't need Somebody was telling a story earlier of somebody going and like touching people and like just respect people, you know, like just because you're here. Good news is one time I was interviewing the Butcher Babies and they were a crowdsurfing and they actually said, like everybody was very respectful. Nobody tried to, you know, touch them in the wrong way as out surf and so that's cool.

12:01 But that doesn't always happen, yea, Like sometimes you have to be blunt assholes out there and that, yeah, you know, make it bad for everybody. But so it's great to have bands like you or anybody else they can really spread the word so that it can change, because I think it is changing, and I think having people on stage that are more diverse having it seems to be a good time. There's a lot more women in bands that are succeeding because it's quite a male dominated industry. It's really nice to have more diverse crowds because of that, because you're going to feel more safe at a gig when there's when it's like, oh, it's just not like a bunch of dudes on stage and stuff. And not that there's anything wrong with bands like that, but it's quite nice to see someone like yourself, people of color, trans people, queer people on stage because it's sort of lets you know, it's not all just one sort of person at a show.

12:56 It should be that way anyway. And yeah, because there's not like these people haven't been creating this music before. It's just the industry is sort of geared towards supporting certain types of fans more than others. And you know what, if you're a great musician, you're a great musician. Yeah that's all that should Yeah, you know, and I'm hoping it's getting better, you know, because we should just be one big family to exactly that everybody, you know, just like being a pit. Pick somebody up. If somebody's being abusive, stop it, do something about it, you know, get somebody or what have you, because this should be a safe place for everyone. That's my opinion, you know. Yeah, And I mean we were on the cover of Crying the other week, and that's the quote on that was that a lot of people online seem to have a problem with.

13:48 Was that we were like, we're welcoming everyone out of our shows and if you have a problem with that, you can leave. I love that because I come from the time when it wasn't like that, and I always though it was stupid. Like listen, in the metal community, in the punk community, we were all the outcasts. So why were we making other people outcasts? Like, Yeah, that was stupid to me, Like it should be a yeah, we should be united against all the people that think were the outcasts exactly and make them the outcasts exactly. So what about you got a new music coming down the pike here? Nothing in the moment. Our new album Blossom just came out about a week ago. Yeah, and a couple of new songs off of their their Badass Sorry, a couple of new songs off of their their Badass You got oh thank you? Some good new music. In fact, I think last time I interviewed you guys, Blossom I just came out and now I was looking up today for because I wrapped music around the interview, I'm like, oh, good, another new song out. I have to use the same song. That's cool. So but yeah, I mean like, I think your music is amazing and that's all that should matter exactly, good live show, good music. All the other stuff means nothing exactly. So how do people connect you on socials on the web all that good stuff? And most importantly, because you alluded to it

15:20 before and I talk about it all the time, buy your merch because that's the only way artists survive. If you want to see you guys live or see new music, they need to support you, you know, because that's the only way you can get there. Yeah, you can head to pupil cisa dot com. That's got links to all other other socials. But we're all most things as pupil cyser and then we've got us merch or night Shift and we've got links to our UK and EU merch on pupil cysed dot com as well. It's all connected. If you look hard enough, you can just search pupil ciser merching Google as well. Yeah, it's not too hard to find. Yeah, it's not too hard to find. We try to keep it in stock not to date. Well, I love it. I love you guys. Thanks for being here at download and thanks for being on the Adventures of plate Man. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Plantman.

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