PipemanRadio Interviews Oceans On Other Planets at Inkcarceration 2025

0:04 Hey, you learn too. Yes, that's true for Sew Crazy. Young, Incarceration, America's Rock, Metal and tattoo bestoral. This is the pipe Man here on the Inventor's Pipe Man W four C Y Radio, and I'm here with. Nick Wolf of Oceans on other planets. Oh man, I wish I could go to one. I'm a surfer and I need to get off this planet. Well, that's what it's all about, baby, is finding a new way of life, a new world in new universe and new beginning. And also, I had another band previously that was moderately successful and I kind of was attached to it for a long time. People kept saying, dude, start something fresh, start something new, and I finally pulled the trigger and this project so a new music baby.

0:53 Now it's real you probably, Yeah. I was always the primary writer in all my projects, but in this case, it's just my producer and I doing everything, and then we bring it to the live band and tailor it for the live set. And so I do love having a lot of creative control. Yeah, that's what's beautiful about today opposed to back in like the eighties. Yes, Cuz record labels, in my opinion, are what fucked up metal and just fucked up artists in general. That's a very solid theory, my friend. Right. The way I look at is you as the artist should have all the creative control. Yeah, and let the suits do the business shit, right, They shouldn't determine what's creative.

1:40 I agree. I agree. There could be some exceptions, but in general, yes, I agree, dude. I just watched the led Zeppelin documentary. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, But they talk a little bit about how Peter Grant set it up. So recorded the record independently with their own money. Now they have a whole album. Then they started touring America, they built a fan base all without the label. Then they went to Atlantic and said here's what we can offer you take it or leave it kind of shit, and Peter Grant like put a fine stern line there and said this is the way you're gonna do it, or else we'll go to another label. And that turned out to be the perfect recipe. Bro nice. And even when they were doing a big concerts like Madison Square Garden, they had a ninety ten split, ninety percent in the artist favor never done before, Well I've done again because Peter Grant was a bad motherfucker.

2:24 Well that's the key stuff like that, or like with see he. Had the business end fucking down. He never told them what to do musically, but he had the business end down. That's my point right there. Like specialization, Just like in any business, you have people that specialize in different areas. My business, my radio stations. Can I work the board? Yes? Should I? Probably not? You hired a person that is total tunnel vision focused on that because they're the ones that are gonna be the best. You can be good something, but to be great, you're a specialist. One hundred and ten percent focus. You have to look at Michael Jordan. Man, he wasn't doing other shit. He was full on focus, right.

3:10 Yeah. Same if you want to be like the ultimate guitar shredder, go all in on that thing. Yeah, eat, sleep, breathe it ONCENTI. Doesn't matter what it is. Yes. Speaking of Peter Grant though, I do want to give a quick shout out to our manager, Tom Hazer, who's also Taproots manager. And I tease him and I say, you're my Peter Grant, like the led Zeppelin guy, right, And I'm like going there with a big swinging dick and make the shit fucking happen. More often than not, he does make it happen. So shout out to Tom. He brought the band here. He's making a lot of shit happen. For all of his bands. He also works with Spine, Shank, Union, Underground, a bunch of other people. But yeah, he's helped me a lot. And I just want to give some gratitude, you know.

3:50 Let's see. I love that because there's some artists in the world that they don't give the gratitude, and I love the people like you that do because without all all the people on the team, doesn't matter how good you are, you're not going anywhere. Absolutely, dude, as an artist, you can get into like an egocentric mindset totally. But the fact is, if. You don't have a team, you're probably you're like ninety nine. Percent you're gonna fail. Right. So I've got good people helping me with the social media, with the videos. I've got a. Great producer, I work with Sahaj, the guy from the band Raw, I've got Tom on the business side, and obviously I do a lot of stuff myself. But you really have to have a team, no matter how good you are. No matter what fucking great songs you haven't.

4:32 No that Beatles men, George Martin. I don't know what their business shit was, but obviously they did fucking phenomenal. Yeah, Like, would we even know the Beeles today if it weren't for George Martin. There you go, So tell our listeners your perspective as the artist. How would you describe your music? How we're gonna what? How would you have the music? Yeah, so my core is alternative rock, but this new project is a little bit more electronic. It's got some really like. Good synthesizer layers, but it's basically dark pop music with an alternative edge. Think about Lincoln Park, Smashing Pumpkins, MGMT, the band Phoenix Star Set, some of these kinds of bands.

5:18 So we can get really heavy on some songs. But also, melody rules the fucking shit. If you don't have a good vocal melody, you're kind of fucked. Right. I'm somebody that loves fast and loves heavy, but if there isn't a melody, there's no like that feeling inside yeah, and that connection. Yeah, you even look at like a band like Metallica, right, unforgiven, nothing else matters and people were saying, oh, they sold out and all this stuff, But those are very emotional, powerful songs. Something I learned at as a music student at music school. You can have a heavy, heavy fucking song that's not a heavy song, right. You could have a single violin player and it could be the heaviest shit you ever heard.

6:02 No doubt, emotionally like Lindsey's Sterling. She's a badass. There you go, there you go. Yeah, man. I went to Oberlin Conservatory of Music, and I was probably like the worst person in that school. But I had heart, and I had a lot of creativity. And I was literally sitting next to kids with perfect pitch that started piano at four years old, and I had to play catch up. I couldn't read music. I had to learn it. I had to learn how to like sight read and all the shit. Great training, great exercises. I'm like, let me get back to the guitar, let me write some fucking riffs. Calm down, you know what I mean. I love it. I love it. You really do have to find who you are exactly. Anybody could try to teach you, but to me, the best artists in history found themselves.

6:48 Yes, you have to be very true to yourself, be authentic, be honest. People pick up on authenticity. And if you don't have it, they know, and you could. Tell they don't even cerebrally know, but they know it in their gut, you know what I mean, no doubt. So I'm trying to do it. So my big thing with this project, bro, I'm applying all the lessons learned from all the mistakes I've made doing this for about fifteen twenty years and trying to do it all the right way. Starts with great songs, then great production, Then you got to have a good marketing strategy. It's all of this. It's a package deal. Oh yeah, you need every part, every part, every part, and unless you just get really fucking lucky, which. Is one in a billion. And it's funny you mentioned Metallica.

7:29 I went to their first show ever and I was one of those people, no shit, that was like fucking sellout posers, blah blah blah ha ha. But that now that I'm an adult, I was like, well, those songs are pretty fucking good. Yeah, and there's still my in my top five yeah and to. Me, and look, they're still so relevant. They're the biggest touring band there is. And to me, nothing else matters. Is one of the best songs ever. And I'm somebody as a thrash metal ad. Normally they would say, oh, that's not metal. Thats so fucking metal and the best. And it comes from them. He poured his heart into that song. That's about him and.

8:13 James plays the solo on that song too, which is very cool, right, yeah. Man. So we've got four singles out on all the platforms. The first one is other Side. If I could tell the listeners one thing, listen to other Side. That's the quintessential song for us. If you like that song, you're gonna like the band. And I'm being really ego list when I say this, I think it's a bona fide hit. Well you should feel that way, it's my opinion, cause if you don't feel that way, how can anybody. Else is gonna That's the thing. I think artists have to love their music before anybody will love their music. And this applies to everything in life. If you got a product you want to sell or whatever, you want to be an athlete, you gotta believe in yourself a hundred percent.

8:56 Yeah, how the people connect to you on socials, on the web and all that. Yeah, we're on every platform. My my thing is Nick Wolf Music, Nick Underscore, Wolf Underscore music. And then the band is Oceans on Other Planets all one word, all lowercase, no hyphens, no underscore, nothing, and we're on everything, Instagram, TikTok, Spotify. We're doing pretty well as a grassroots movement. Nice. I have ideas for these. Songs names, you can name them new Oceans that are going to be on other planets. I like that right like that. I was thinking about an album cycle where every album is a different planet. It's like we're going to Mars, We're going to Pluto, We're going to Nettune. It's a great fucking though Pluto is not a planet anymore.

9:39 Oh poor to me. I still say fuck them, they're a planet. I agree with you. Pluto is a planet. Planet, not a planet. That how is that science? It's a fucking planet or it's not. You can't bounce and there watch one time they were bounce it back to be a planet. It's like, make up your mind. Yes, I I mean, I don't know who's in charge of that, but I think they need to reconsider and now. You could have like an album that's like planet fuck You. Well, that's another way to go. Then we go outside of that galaxy, we go out of our milky Way to the next galaxy. It's infinite. It's infinite. Let me ask you one question before we close out this interview. Do you believe in aliens?

10:22 I do believe that we are pretty egotistical to think that we'd the only intelligent life in a multiple universes. Okay, like we don't even know what the fuck's out Why. Would we be the only ones? That's an insane thought. That is weird. You know what's funny about that? This is a second interview today to add aliens in it. Wow, there's a theme brewing here. Nothing more. Well, I would love for everyone to listen to Oceans on Other Planets. I would too, and reach out contact us. We're very friendly, we got great videos, great merch, and we're gonna play Incarceration hopefully next year. It's a badass fat stable. Isn't it great to meet you?

11:02 Brother? Great to meet you, and thanks for being on the Adventures Patemn. Let's do it again. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Patemn on w for Cui radio,