PipemanRadio Interviews MASTIFF About Upcoming New Album Deprecipice

0:04 Hey, you have unto censure. Wow for you young Roy Wacoume America. It's time for the Adventures of HPEMN on W four c HY dot com. West Poon Beach is number one Internet radio station. Here's your host, the White Man. Red Guys no longer Red sides Ye shot side fright shot Try try walks Rid. This is pight Man here on the Adventures pight Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here with our next guest, to man.

1:00 They have some killer ass music coming out, okay, number one, number two. I have to say right off the bat that I love something that I read that Korng said about them and described them in twenty nineteen as a grind sludge Mulotov cocktail. Like that is the best explanation ever. So let's welcome to the show. Jim from Mastiff, How are you hi? I'm all right? Are you? I'm good. I'm good. I'm a little better than you though, because I'm in Costa Rica right now, and from what I know, my weather is a lot better than yours. Right now, you're probably about three hundred and sixty four days a year, I know, right, So I go, I go out there to cover Download and Bloodstock, and you know, I go and I think it's you know, I think it's just gonna be summer. It's gonna be great. And then I'm like, what the fuck? How is it this cold in the middle of summer, and it's like bipolar. Like I'll be doing interviews and in between interviews, I got I'm putting the hoodie on, taking the hoodie off, because like, one interview it's hot, one interview, it's cold.

2:15 Although a couple of years ago Bloodstock it was not cold at all. Oh my no, it was pretty brutal. Yeah, that was we played and it was brutal. Yeah, but you guys were brutal there because I caught your set at Bloodstock then. And I think that was also the same year that I did covered hell Fest and it was like one hundred and four degrees. Yeah, like literally I was doing my interviews outside instead of press tent because it was too hot in the press tent. So imagine that that it was nicer outside, cooler outside at one hundred and four. I mean, oh my god, like but that's why. Yeah, So tell us a little bit about the new album. You got the new album dropping on the twenty second via m n ark And I was just listening to it like before the interview. It's kind of how I get pumped up for the interview.

3:16 I just listen to the music, the new music, in the bed, just hanging out doing my fig and oh my god, it's just it's brutal. And it totally went along with that explanation that Karng gave. Well, that's cool. Yeah, it's a hell of an album. You know, even if I do say so myself, is it does? Yeah, Karrang have sort of captured what we're about there with that with that quote, I guess. Yeah, we haven't deviated massively from previous releases, although this one does feel a little bit more hardcore. I think, there you go. And I love that you do kind of like blend genres because you know, we're both kind of an old school and old school you can do that crap. And I always saw it was stupid when I was young. I'm like, isn't a musician just supposed to experiment, not like just go by stupid rules. Oh exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

4:15 We do. We do fall between a lot of cracks, or we peek between a lot of mountains. Or I don't know anyway, we're Yeah, we are between quite a lot of genres, I think, not through any you know, we're not trying to be We are lucky enough to be five all the blokes, like you say, who have got a lot of influences over the years, and we all try and you know, pump them out as quick as we can, or you know, as much as we can between us. So it's a little bit of a doing and throwing out, you know, towards what style we would be on each song. I guess on each track. Yeah, yeah, So we do try to cover not try to cover all bases, but we do cover a lot of bases, you know. And I was thinking about while you're talking, okay, And so people from our generation got exposed to very like so many different levels heading into metal, opposed to I think the younger generation today. We created what they have right now. So there was no like black metal at first.

5:30 There was no death metal at first, there was no you know, there there wasn't even like I'm an old school thrash metal head. There was no thrash you know. I was at Metallica's first show ever and they were considered power metal. Because there was no such word as thrash metal, you know, and that's some clips for them that's start with let alone be yeah right, yeah, I guess yeah, the thresh metal thing. Yeah, well, all genres, I mean, I mean, I guess it all leads back to your your black Sabbaths and then your judis pre exactly. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's all, but it's it's all irrelevant when you know, metals metal at the end of the day, whether it some box or it don't fit somebox, who cares. We're not We're not tied to any genre. Like you said, we tried to be. Yeah, we try to have the idea that we can play anything with bloody like and if if if it sounds masterly enough, then that's it gets to be kept I guess not normally about ninety percent of town. So yeah, And you know, and the point I was getting to is like you have so many influencers as a musician over your years of being around this genre, where I think the younger kids have have different influences because their influencer more of what was created later, you know, And like I even know people that are snobby now days, Like I find snobby to where oh Maiden sucks, and like before

7:06 all this stuff, Maiden and Priests were like gods and then yeah, today you would look at them and go, man, that was metal. That's kind of It's kind of like I remember back in the day when Venom first came out and they there, they did a gig with Slayer in La and Tom and Cronos gone to a fight backstage because Kronos was like, we're thely black metal bend. There's no other black metal band ba And now you ask black metal bands today and they don't even consider the original Venom as black metal. Interesting, it's so interesting. Well, surely having having the first album ever called black metal gives you that we've we've sand sealed and delivered this one so exactly. So what was it for you? The first thing that you really sticks out on your mind that told you I want to be a musician and that's it. Well, if I'm brutally honest with you, it was a bet in the pub, I love it. Yeah. Well, no, thirty years ago there was a gang of us in the pub in the boozer whatever you want to call it, the bar, and a guy who was with us who not that I can play new instruments, but a guy

8:37 who was with us who can play instruments better as a four months in four months, you can't play gig. And we were like, right, who sat around the table. There was a drummer luckily, a very loose bassist, a guitarist obviously, and then there was two singers or two mates who wanted to be singers, which obviously I was one of them and Paul Chris at the time, and we were like, okay, red rag to a bull to most of us, And four months later we were playing our first gig. Not not massive that it's not massive, but it was you know, it was the leading into a thirty year I wouldn't call it Korea, but a hobby, a thirty year hobby, I know, right, Like is it cool though that your hobby can be your career, Like that's the way it should be. Yeah, yeah, it's just fun, you know.

9:33 Case how many people get to sort of do this shit and get away with doing whatever the you know, doing gigs and other people suddenly buying into it and going okay, yeah, you're you're all right, you're all right, Well, I don't mind you. It is it's and there's so much competition nowadays that when you're a band like you that can still stick out with new music today, that I so to me because there's so much out there, you know, it's not like the tape trading days, okay, Like there's millions of songs that anybody can listen to at their fingertips, you know, like me, like you, probably I had to actually buy an album to know what it even sounded like. Oh god, yeah, yeah, and luckily you know he's come back around. I guess for physical copies.

10:24 I love. I love buying vinyl when I when on as I can afford it. But yeah, it's you know, I still I'm surrounded by the stuff at the moment. So yeah, but shuts all the wife too much. Oh I love that, And I love that you brought that up too, because people think of musicians and they have this idea in their mind, and really a lot of them are family people, married, have kids, and like, just because you are who you are on stage doesn't mean people know what you are off stage. And I think you want to get away from that, like, especially if you're touring. Okay, so when you go home, I don't think you want to be in tour mode. You want to be in you know, home recuperating. Chide, Yeah, you can't live in you can't live in rock and roll mode. Sorry, I keep doing this, but rock and roll mode all the time. It's got a you know, normality is normality, and the majority of musicians or singers like myself, we don't know it's it's it's just a normal life. And then for however long you're touring, you get to go into tour mode.

11:35 So yeah, I'd rather be that way. I think it keeps you, it keeps the reality, it keeps a reality check on yourself as well. So no doubt, let's call what it is. When you're getting up on stage, you're entertaining, You're you're a performer. You know, even in radio, like I have so many funny stories of people that have known me my whole life and they listen my radio show and not and not the serious part, because there's like the shock jock part too, and they're like, what the fuck happened to you? And I'm like, I'm just playing a role on the radio man. It's like even you know, my radio name is pipe Man, but that's not my name in real life. But like it's so funny. People walk up to me and they're like, hey, what's up, pipe man, And then like if they meet Dean, which is my real name, like that they're kind of confused because they're expecting pipe man. Yeah, we've got a similar thing here in the UK. My real name is Jim, but I'm more known to most people. Is no bad say there you go, and uh it is. Actually it is kind of funny too, isn't it. Like even I'll go on tour and do all these festivals and do radio coverage and I one of the most fun parts about that is when I'm sitting out in the crowd with some of my band friends and nobody knows it's them. We laugh about it because we're sitting in

13:11 this like huge crowd, not hiding, and and it'll be like somebody that everybody would know if he was on stage or she was on stage, and they just have no clue who and some glasses and yeah, you're blending. And see that's cool because that's an earn thing I always talk about that people don't understand, Like, especially if I bring helpers to do the interviews backstage at these festivals, I'm like I have a rule. I tell him, like, listen, this is their safe zone. Okay, we don't fangirl or fanboy out back here. Don't ask for aiografts, don't ask for selfies, and we're all on equal level back here. They have to deal with enough of that out there. Like let them have this time to you know, just be themselves and not have to you know, have the switch on, so to speak. Absolutely, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I was looking enough to once like be stud shoulders shoulder with Dave Grohl when he's ex I think it's his ex wife was playing in Veruca Salt and we were at a festival in England and my palor was stood next to we just went, oh look it's next year. I was like, oh my god, right hella and he was like yea, all right, and that was it. And that's you know, that's I think all anybody really wants.

14:37 They don't want the the punishers all the time, every bloody moment, do they They're just we're all humans. We're all just normal people. We've just been lucky enough to write music that people are in. So that's all absolutely, And you know, it's funny you mentioned Dave Grohl because like I'll go do like dime Back Diamondbag Bash, and uh, he's just sitting there barbecuing for every boy he did. I mean, like obviously I've only ever sort of stood next to him, But the guy is just he just comes across as the most normal superstar I know, right he is. He's like the most normal dude. So yeah, Dave's like the nicest guy in rock and roll, and everybody that knows him says that he doesn't even like think of himself as a rock star, Okay, and that's what makes him cool.

15:35 Yeah, yeah, that's the best kind of rockstar. You fall foul. I think you certainly see people falling full of the first album superstardom, leaving their own bullshit, and then you're like, oh, okay, you're dick that you know. There were like I spent the eighties on the Sunset Strip and so I met a lot of those bands and hung out with them as a teenager, and a lot of bands they it did go to their head and they were like total dicks. Now fast forward to today, some of those people turned into they got humbled and turned into nice guys. Some of them haven't had like hit since the eighties and they still think they're God's gift to music. Yeah, well yeah, how how do you know I was on about them? Yeah, there's yeah, I mean yeah, but then I suppose in every genre there's there's certain types. I mean, we've been to big hardcore bun shows. I'm being surprised that they're charging a meet and great thing like hard calls. Not about that, right, I know everyone's going to make a living, but come on, do Jesus. It is

17:07 mird. It is kind of weird nowadays sometimes, Like I also found what was weird because I'm totally into punk too, and a lot of punk bands that were known for being like anarchists and all it and talking against the government all of a sudden became pro government, and I like scratched my head. I'm like, that's like the antithesis of punk. Yeah that is, Yeah, that's that's pretty much everything that you could do wrong. You've just done wrong there. Yeah, it's yeah. Yeah, I mean, I know, people make money and it does change him obviously, it's going to change your your living style and everything. I mean, Christ, you can't you can't live. You can't live like gg Allen. You know, for the rest of your life when you've got a million dollars in the bank or a million around you know. But I guess you know, there's always a moment where you've got to be You've got to be realistic about what you're doing and don't don't undermine your own Yeah, I don't mind somebody having a better life, just don't be a dick about it. Yeah, exactly. You know, So tell everybody how they can connect to you guys on socials, how they can pre order the album that drops on the twenty second. I know you have a cool link tree that links to everything, so that if you search us on any of the socials just about we're massive hitch c itchc And

18:45 like I said, there's there's links to everything, there's pre order links, there's so it's all the rest of it. You know, we're we're no different from most of the bands out there that way. We're all just trying to viuy for the small little gap in the market. And you know, if anyone's interested, there's there's the pre orders there and we'll we post them out personally. Still, so now I could tell you too, it's a little bit of a tongue Twister the name of the album, and so I've kind of I'm like, I want to get a good laugh from you because I'm going to try to say it and I know I'm going to butcher it right now. So let's see depress it's up right, Just just go basic it's depressor piece. Oh but there you go. I was trying to go there too, and then I just lost it in the middle. One too many letters. I believe, I know right, it's definitely and I'm sure you won't with the last You should you guys should do like a contest for like a free ticket to of your shows for who can say that ten times fast without screwing it up. That's a contest. Yeah. In fact, you know what I'm gonna do. My live show is tomorrow and then I'll give it away tickets to Aftershock that just announced their line up last week.

20:15 I think that's gonna be the contest for my Okay, I not, You've got our ok Okay, I'm gonna do that. That's gonna be so oh. You might not be able to give the ticket away. I don't. I'll bet you nobody will be able to do it. That would be great, I might ring in and sweep the ball to here. Uh that that you know what I could do? I could send you a link the same like we're doing here. I could send you a link and you can come. We could say time for you to come on and and we can we can do the contest. It would be so fun, all right. He after the interview we'll talk about I'll give you all the deats and uh.

21:04 The last thing I want to say is I just absolutely love love love your slogan. Okay, and I'm a see and I gotta say I'm a very motivational, positive person that loves your slogan. And I want to say that ahead of time because it's a miserable band from a miserable city spot. I mean, you know, if anybody's ever been to Hole, it is that. But it's our miserable city and we'll do empty gree so it's uh, it's it's our miserable shit. I'm wondering there's another band I can't remember who it is that I interviewed. I'd either download or Bloodstock that was also from Hull and was saying the exact same stuff, and I was like, I can't remember who it is. It might have been Blacks. I don't think it was that one else could it have been I'm just trying to think who else has played Bloodstuck? What recently? Yeah, within you know, post COVID, I can't remember. So I'll give you one other funny thing here.

22:22 Okay. My second wife, she was British. Okay, okay. And I don't know if you know this, but especially women when they come over to the United States, they play this role like they're the Queen of England, okay, and they She was no different. She had this hoity toity attitude and you know, nose down on Americans and acted like she was this royal and she took advantage of the place that I had. In fact, I had no clue about the town she was from, and later, after being divorced, I found out from talking to my English friends, like about that town, what it's about. So you'll love this, Okay, she's from Newcastle. Okay. Well, I'm really surprised at that because most of us, most of us, and this is no disrespect to the Southern people, but most Northerners are quite humble people normally you would think, but you know, they come over here and they want to act like you know, because for Americans have never been to the UK, they think that all the UK is it like highly you know, high class, toity toity, royal people, you know. I mean, so it's easy for somebody like

23:53 that to come and play it off, you know, Otherwise you're not going to sing the man you want to get by acting like white trash. Oh maybe you would. We got enough of it in America, so we don't need some British girl for that. Which Oh man, good stuff. I love it. I love your new music, badass, And you guys are also going to be on tour in the UK and I think some other European countries. You're playing a festival in Poland, I believe. And yeah, well yeah, we've seen we've got to see what's what's available on what's out there. And as we said earlier, there's so many bands out at the moment who are just blowing my mind with what they're putting out. So good stuff. So we're we're hoping once the album's out and a few more promoters have heard it, then we'll see what what doors are open for us.

24:56 All right, Well cool, I love it and and I hope I get to see you guys again. Maybe I have festival in the US too. That would be cool. That would be the dream. That would be the dream. Let's make that happen. See that'll be part of making it happen. When you come into my show tomorrow and we're talking about one of the US festivals, I'm runing a contest for that. Then I'm gonna call out Danny Wimmer and say he's got to put you on one or more of the festivals in twenty twenty five. I will quite happily talk to the Manuma a lot. There you go. I love it well, Thanks a lot for giving us great music, and thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man.

25:38 Thank you for having me dude, it's being a pleasure. Thanks again. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man. I'm w for CUI Radio.