PipemanRadio Interviews Hinder at Louder Than Life 2025

0:04 Hey you lunt, here's sure. Fore wow, crazy young. This is Pipe Man here on the Adventures Pipe NW four c Y Radio, and I'm here. With what's up. This is Cody and this is Marshall from hinder Nice here at Louder than Life. Wetter than Life? Is that today? It could be worse though, because I did Bourbon and Beyond last week and this is what our code read was last week. Oh wow. Yeah, that's quite the lightning strike.

0:45 Right, and that's that first wheel right there, So I won't be going on that today. Yeah. Well, now you got me thinking about bourbon, so thank you for that. There you go. Well, there's plenty of bourbon here at Lowerdan Life, as you probably might know it. We are in Kentucky, so absolutely, it's just part of the gig. So besides the fact that you've been on Code Read and sheltered in place, what do you think about being that Louder than Life? Oh? Man, it's awesome to be here. I was just walking around seeing a lot of old friends and bands that we've toured with in the past. It's been crazy. Some of these guys we haven't seen play since twenty fourteen, right, and they've been some of our best friends for years and years. So it's really great to see everybody.

1:26 Who are you looking forward to seeing? And here at Louder in Life. Rev Theory Actually, like I said, yeah, like I said, we've been friends with them for forever. We got woken up by Rich their singer, at like eight thirty am this morning, just comes barging in the busking us up in monk Alley. So that part wasn't quite so pleasant. But besides that, it's great to see. But that is the life. I love that. Yeah, that shows the camaraderie to friendships and could just go in and do that. Yeah, that's something I would do too. Yeah, and you've had some new music recently. It's really really good. How do you keep coming up with new music that's good? Like I always think about, like it's gotta be hard after a while to come up with music and you're always trying to outdo what you did before.

2:14 Well, lucky for us, Marshall went through a breakup, so his heartache was our win here. So that helped a lot of the subject matter on the record and kind of makes you think, you know, even for me, like writing along with him, like bringing up old emotions to try to add to the storyline and stuff. So it's fun, man, And a lot of the material that was on this record we'd written quite a while back. It's been sitting on a hard drive and we got to go back through it and revive some of it and reimagine them as Hinder tracks, and so that was a lot of fun. So question on that is what made it sit for a while? Like, and I don't know how long that while is or else I would say, well, it was probably COVID, but now we're like six years from COVID or whatever.

2:56 Well, some of the songs were written for other side projects that we were doing. We were doing some things for a while and outside of Hinder, and we always loved the songs but never really felt like it was the time to put them out. But over COVID, we actually did write an entire album and decided we weren't happy with it and it didn't feel like us, so we threw it away and kind of started over. What do you think attributed to the fact that album wasn't you? I think at the time we had this plan of attack that was like, let's try to reimagine what it would be like if we redid the first record today. So we were trying to kind of stick to the roots of the first record to see what happened right, and what turned out ended up sounded a little dated.

3:41 It didn't really have this fresh take on that first record like we had hoped for. It just sounded like us doing a dated version of ourselves. So I think that's what made us kind of shel of it. But you know what's funny about that is, like, we listened back to some of those songs recently and there's actually some really good songs in there that we had kind of overlooked and discounted then. So you know, maybe they'll see the light of day sometime. Well, And you did make a good point, because if you just try to be who you were, then it might not gel with new people. Now, like maybe the old people will be like, yeah, finally they're back to their roots. But you got to evolve as an artist, and like, if you are evolved and got better at your craft, you might look back on that. Like Hetfield, he always talks about how the San Jose Sharks play Seek and Destroyed, but they played the original versions, and he's like, why don't they played the newer version that I've re recorded, because what I can sing now I sucked them.

4:49 Well, yeah, yeah, exactly what you said is right. But also we've changed its people too, you know what I mean, We're not We're not the same kids we were when we did that first record. So you evolve not only as like musicians and songwriters, but as human beings. So it definitely makes a difference. Yeah, that's a big point of it too, right, And as you get older, your thought process kind of changed. What you would sing about is different when I would sing about at sixteen, certainly I wouldn't sing about now exactly. Tell us about the heartbreak, not the details, because that sucks, But tell us how it motivated you to write some great new music. Well, I don't know. I mean, I think it was like it was the combination of a breakup but also a midlife crisis in a sense for me. So I was losing my mind about a lot of things, having a hard time mentally dealing with the fact that I was getting older. So there was just a lot of emotions on top of the heartbreak and stuff. So it was just it was so easy to just say how I felt because I felt emotionally charged at that time.

5:54 Yeah, yeah, I think it does help. Like emotions are music, that's what it's all about. Yeah, And sadly enough, dude, there's play more to write about nowadays. Who would think that we would have the same and worst things to write about twenty twenty five. It's like in the eighties. Yeah, it's a trip to me. I think you can take a bunch of eighties songs right now, change names in them and it's the same song. Well, you know what's crazy is like when you're really content and life can be really great, but that doesn't mean that you have anything to say about it. I mean, try writing a song that's like about something happy and not tragic. It's a lot more difficult than you think. Right then, when you're upset and you're going through a bunch of turbulence that you know, that kind of material is easy to pull right out of you.

6:41 That's why sometimes I think it must be really hard to write like a pop song because a pop song doesn't go deep. Usually sometimes it does, but if you're not going deep, it's a trip. Yeah. The thing about pop, though, is like pop sounds happy, right, so you can make it match the mood, But try writing a happy rock song, right that, just those two things don't go together. That's not gonna make any sense. It just sounds cheesy and lame. Nobody wants to. Hear that, right, Like tonight bring Me to Rise in headline, and I don't think I could ever hear Ali singing a happy song except the happy song. Right exactly exactly?

7:24 And so what else you got planned after Louder than Life? What's going on that we need to tell the listeners about? After this, We're gonna go home for ten days and then we're heading back west to go do Aftershock. You have a few shows on the way there and home, and then after that we're gonna kind of take it easy and we'll probably get back in the studio and try to write some new materials just to see what happens. You know. We're not going to put any pressure on ourselves or anything like that. And then we have a show with Creed right after Christmas, and that'll be it for the year, and then we kind of start looking at next year. Is it wild to you to be doing a show with Creed in twenty twenty five? Is absolutely insane? Right? Yeah? I never thought that would happen in a million years. We've gotten to do a few of them now, and it's wild.

8:06 Man. It's crazy to go back and hear all those songs now one time and see it in person. It's like it's like a flashback, and it is so damn good. They are so good, man. I almost think a lot of music was better back then. I find a lot of specifically metal bands nowadays they use it's like I called it, algebraic equation to write their songs. It's like, no, metal doesn't use formulas, right, And then I think back when I was a kid listen to metal and my dad goes or people that didn't like metal, going, oh, that sounds the same, and I'm like, no, it doesn't sound the same. Metallica doesn't sound the same as Slayers, Anthrax, as Motley Crue, as whoever.

8:56 But now I'm like, yeah, that shit sounds the same. But they're all using the same guitar tone and the same snare snare sample and the same you know what I mean. So yeah, it does sound the same. Intentionally like people back then though, It's like my mom, even my brother, they would say that about rock music, like it all. Sounds the same. I'm like, you guys are listening to the country, you know you're gonna tell me that all that stuff doesn't sound the same without. Man, it's like. I could write a country song with just like five words as with a shruck alcohol exactly, and women trusting a lost dog and the dog I forgot the dog. So mud story good or bad for both of you in your whole musical journey? What would you share?

9:42 Oh that's really hard, man, I know. That's why I like that question, to. Be honest, Like, it's kind of a broad story. I think for us, the fact that we've gone through all the things that we have as a band, and the fact that we're still here and we've kind of like clawed our way back out of the shit, you know what I mean, and the fans stuck around and continue to embrace us, and we're out doing it. Man, that's that is the story for me. I think I love it. Just a story. Random story. Oh. First thing that pops into mind the first time I ever sang for Hind, the very first time I filled in singing for Hinder, we opened for Lynyrd Skinnard.

10:23 That's a cool opening. Right during the breakdown of Tuesday's Gone. A singer comes right over on a side stage. He walked up, He's like, hey, man, I heard you sing earlier. You got some great pipes. Man, that was awesome and that Like wow. I was just thinking, like if I could go tell my fifteen year old self that was gonna happen one day, Like wow. I interviewed them like three times, and they're just good old boys. I was just talking about this icons like that they have no clue that the rock stars. They're just like good old boys playing music, you know. Yeah. One time, I remember we were in Ashville doing a tour of Blackbird Studio and somebody opened the door. Whoever was doing the tour for us, opened the door and walked right into one of Flindard Skinner's sessions when I was sitting in there just listening to one of the mixes.

11:07 And they couldn't have been nicer. Even in that instance where we just kind of barged in on their recording session, they were still so nice. And that's so cool to hear because most of the time that wouldn't be the case. Exactly exactly. So I'll share with you this answer that Rossington gave me to that same question I just asked you. He goes like, just like this, he goes the time we had sex with the Spice girls backstage. Wait wait wait edit that out? Great answer, right, I mean it was just classic. So how do you feel the band is better now with the current lineup bent ever been?

11:49 I think the fact that just together we are stronger. We all just have such a great relationship. It's stable, it's steady for one team marching toward a common goal. It's all about us collectively. It's all about the band, and that's really what it's all about. You can't survive otherwise. I think that's an important point too, because when you're teenagers starting out a band, you think a certain way, but then as you get older, you all start like I couldn't hang out with most any of my teenage friends anymore. So I think as you get older, then you find your tribe to be part of your band, Like you're on the same page. Yep, it's not gonna change.

12:32 Things change drastically between that teenage years and even thirty, like all the way through or even up to forty. Man changes drastically. I think at some point you finally become who you really are, and then you attract the others that are the same thing. Yep, yeah, no, I mean you nailed it absolutely right. Anything else you want to share with the listeners that you got coming up, or anything we didn't cover, you want them to know. We always like to just say a huge thanks to everybody that's stuck with us through like I said, all the bullshit that we've been through. I mean, without our fans, obviously, we couldn't do it and we know that and they're everything. And also, go check out the new album back to Life. Yeah, that's a big deal for us.

13:15 It is a great album. I'm so pumped you're here at loud in Life and Aftershock because that's a killer one too. Yeah, I was looking forward to that. And thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man. Thanks for having us. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pipe Man. I'm w for CUI Radio.