PipemanRadio Interviews Gigantum

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0:54 This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures of pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here with our guest who are some badass musicians and probably have some cool stories because we were talking before the interview, and so let's welcome to the show. Gigantum. How are you? Yay? So tell us about Gigantum. But if you were to, just if somebody said tell me about your band, what would the first thing that came to your head? Be? Loud and heavy, big, nice? But I say it with a little bit more like emphasis, be like, we're lo loud, we're heavy, we're so big.

1:36 See there you go. Yeah, And how about how about you guys? Do you what's the first thing comes to your guys heads? I would say, like the band musically, it's just a melting pot of genres, all the all this stuff that we love listening to, just mixed up together and what comes out. It seems seems to work pretty well for us, so hopefully it does for everyone else to see. And I love that, by the way, because we were talking before the show about the old days where there were so many gatekeepers and there were so little metal heads and so many. Gatekeepers, and it was just stupid. Okay, you had the metals and the punks on different sides, and that was always I thought stupid because we were both getting our asses beat by the jocks in school.

2:25 We should have teamed up together instead of being against each other. And like, I just think nowadays, if you're not blending genres, then the music isn't authentic nowadays because we all have all these influences and it seems like metal in particular bands like follow this algebraic equation nowadays, and that wasn't what metal was about. Ever, That's not what rock is about. It should be just, you know, blend of whatever you like. Nobody has to like one specific thing, and then you come up with something that's unique, and that is.

3:08 You, guys. You had your own little spice to what you've like put together. And then that becomes yours, and it's like it's like most, like most music, you're building on what's come before exist. It was a few exceptions, new kind of music. I mean, what's that like? Show me what that is? But I agree with you. And you're right. It is all built on what started before, Like everything has built from that. And it's funny. In my lifetime, I've experienced that escalation because some of the music you have now you wouldn't have anything close to that when I was a. Kid, you know. So it's like, you know, what we considered heavy was not probably heavy by today's standards, and.

3:54 So it helps Black Sabbath, I think, is super heavy still. Heavy, you know, totally. So I think it just depends on how how the heavy was created, Like is it heavy because of the the riff and the tempo? Or is it heavy because of the type of pedal you're using? Or why is it heavy? Like is it because it's drop d like what makes it heavy? You know? What's interesting is that you brought up Black Sabbath, which I think any metal head could agree is heavy. Okay, However, one of my interviews made the news recently. What Yes.

4:34 News, What should we say. Okay, well, see you brought up Sabbath and basically withal it was. Carmine a peace. Oh and he said that Sabbath was not metal and that's what made the news. Well maybe he's just jealous, because Vinny. You could argue about that all day fighting. Don't listen to that grey. Well it's all blues. Okay, yeah, it's all blues, but it's attitude and heavy. Just then take it over it just to say, you know, heavy comes in all different forms, sizes, shapes, sounds, slow, fast, whatever, heavy for me, like a song can be. You know there there's heavy music all over the place that has nothing to do with.

5:18 Metal, right, yeah, you mention blues blues can be pretty heavy at times. I guess where all this stuff came from in my estimation. So yes, So Blair, what what's the first thing comes to your head when it comes to Gigantum. Well, one of the first things that comes to my head is fuzz because because I love I love the sound that we get and everyone has their own particular sound and yeah, it just works together really well. And as far as Sabbath goes, I think the thing with Sabbath is actually they actually started something that wasn't really being done at the time, and it was heavier in a lot of ways, but it was also they really blended like a whole bunch of like different styles, different skills, different you know, they kind of went dark a little bit and and how they did music, and it wasn't really happening like that back then. So they were kind of the first ones and at least the ones that were taking the stage that really really made it like famous, so to speak. So I can kind of see how metal kind of got from that and how why they're kind of considered the beginning of metal. But to metal today, I mean, they're definitely not metal metal, but they were really kind of one of the first people that really got it out there.

6:52 Going down that road. But yeah, well and see that's that's the road. In the Judas Priests. Yeah, they just won places in their music that other people woren't necessarily. I mean, the psychedelic really took their music places, but they put it more in rock terms in terms, so. And you know, it is funny because we mentioned these different bands and that was basically the stages that I went through in my life. It was like for me, it was first Kiss because I wanted my first album I ever owned. I wanted at Seaside Heights at the Boardwalk because these cool looking characters on the album.

7:34 And that was the first Kiss album. And then I actually got into the Beatles, and then that led me to Sabbath, and Sabbath led me to Zeppelin, and Zeppelin led me to Ozzy and then and then Ozzie led me to like we were talking about before the interview, like the La club scene, like Motley Crue before they were glam and then Slayer Metallica and then you know, and that I went through that whole every phase of metal type of things. I think that today because there is such a like overlapping genre and downs and stuff. I think part of that came from rock wasn't doing so well for a while there because it was like disco was happening and then rap came and it was like I remember with the Grammys and stuff, it was just like there was no rock bands anymore being presented, and it was like, what the fuck is happening with rock? And so I think people like you know, behind the scenes started to talk to each other more and things, you know, and other things came out, which kind of you know, it's because of that that we're here talking about it. You know, it's like we haven't died out and we're not going anywhere.

8:58 But it was a little tough there for a while. It's kind of doing that now too, Like, yeah, is like really prevalent. It's really hard to have other stuff on the top twenty. I feel like, yeah, we have a book, but we're huge. I mean, you go to festivals now, and the Marcos to festivals all the time everywhere of bands, and it's amazing. There are so many bands out there now. I mean, it's pretty incredible. There's so many bands, there's labels, and you know, it's a big resurgence and it's like a lot of good stuff that's happening. It's funny because you mentioned the festivals, because I too, Like I go on tour and I do radio coverage at like all the Danny Wimmer festivals in the States, plus a bunch of others. I go over to UK Europe, and yeah, it does blow my mind that I'll be a festival and there's like one hundred thousand metal heads there. Yeah, the idea of that just blows my mind. And it you know, it did die. You know, if you took metal as an example, grunge kind of killed it for a while. I think hair metal is really what killed it.

10:09 That's what a loud grunch, you know. But then it came back, and it even seems now, even post COVID, that it's even bigger than ever. And I think part of that is because we need that kind of voice that is in rock and roll, you know, like any part of rock and roll. You know, I think that it's rock is the great uniter, and we're in such a polarized world that we need that. Great united I vote for you, pipe man. You know what's funny is I do have a campaign on my show where I run for president. But every time, so twenty sixteen, I actually had four.

10:54 Of my listeners vote for me. Wow, because hey, listen, we don't have any choices anymore. So I would only just add the you know, if you've been to any of the European the big European festivals, they've been flying that flag song. Even when it was kind of dead in the United States, it was going strong in Europe. So well, what I love too about the European festivals, like I just did coverage for grass Pop and I was watching machine Head and Deep Purple in the same day. Wow, you know, like, I mean, come on, and that's the way they do it great, which we're learning over here now.

11:37 Of again, blending genres. It's just not just one thing. Hell Fest has a different stage for every genre. It's kind of wild. It's like, Okay, if you're into death metal, good to this stage. If you're into hardcore, go to this stage. If you're into just you know, rock and roll, good to this stage. And we definitely are starting to learn here in the US because you're right, Europe has always flown that flag, and it's so they're so into it. Like bands that I thought were gone since the eighties haven't been gone. They've just been in Europe all this time. Europe. It's it's wild. You know.

12:17 Well the Marba comes to mind, like they didn't come to the United States for like twenty years, right, and they're like they had everything they need. In Europe exactly exactly. So yeah, you got, yeah, you have to get over there. Do you guys have any festivals you have your eye on playing here? We want to. Play all the festivals anything anywhere. We'll put that out there because yeah, we need to get you at I'm doing Rockklahoma in a couple of weeks. That's a fun festival. If you have pull us over there in Oklahoma. Well, we'll have to late for Rockklahoma this year, maybe next year, but yeah, let's definitely get you into some festivals. Yeah, because you guys do rock and think everybody's got to check out your music and see why you should be at these festivals.

13:04 And we could be at all different stages because we have a little bit of this, a little bit of that, so you can we can fit everywhere we can. That's why I dig about you guys, and that's why I think about you guys, is that you could fit on a stage, like like I said before, even like I'm a hardcore thrash metal head, but I love all kinds of genres. You know. That's what people don't think. You don't have to umber. Yeah, you don't have to love one genre. It's like it's it's even funny. There's this place Tomorrow Night near me that every week they have a live Latin band. I'm like, I go because it's a lot of fun, you know, lives.

13:49 I think that's where we made the mistake during the lockdown. People got so pissed off we didn't have live music because listen, live music, there's nothing better. It's the great, you know for sure. So and you guys, speaking of live music, you guys have a show coming up on the seventh. YEP our record release. We're so excited. So we're really happy that our EPs finally coming out. Nice. So what do you have in store for that record release show and party? We have tacos because this is La yeah right. We have drinks, and we have little u RL postcards that you can buy the album with. And you have us playing the music.

14:42 Got stickers and shirts? Yeah, oh yeah, we have merch. We're gonna play our record for you. Yep. Nice and definitely people have to get your merch because that's the only way a band survives nowadays. It's not like the old days. There's no record label giving you a fet or anything like that. You know, where you could party it. You know, you got you got work. Hard, Give me a check, everybody fat check for your merch. If you want to get in debt, yeah sure. How do people reach out to you to you know, check out the band? Connect on Socials by your merch to urda band.

15:23 You can find us on Gigantum band, on everything Nice something we're on there, so blare Do you have anything you want to say? I'm good right now? Nice? Are there any other things we want to tell the listeners that we have not covered yet that they need to know? Mm? Will you put us on the spot? Oh? Look at that? I stumped you. Yeah. Well, working on music, so we're excited to be recording again and and you know, doing stuff again. So get this, get this music so then you can be ready for our next batch.

16:09 Nice and uh, you guys definitely are badass. So everybody has to check you out, and you know we'll have to. Everybody's got to show up. Where is that record release show? In part it's at Nightingales, you know, the famous Nightingales rehearsal studios. They have like a thing once a month and it's just like a hangout and a fun time. So I thought that would be cool for us to do our release there. Okay, so the whole world has to show up now. September seven, Yes, and. Our single came out today for all my friends, did you listen to it? I see you have the artwork behind you.

16:49 Absolutely, it's pretty I love the artwork too, it's pretty cool. Yeah, I'm totally into artwork too. Being old school. I was talking about this earlier. You know, we bought albums by looking at the artwork. You had no clue what the band sounded like. Yeah. They say not to judge a book by the cover, but that's how we used to do things. Back in the day. I mean I discovered great stuff, just beast on the cover, just you know, taking your entire records used to take a shot. Yeah, no doubt. I used to get that examples. But I just still have these records and was just like, so glad I took I took a chance on these things. Yeah. And I used to get BAM magazine so I could see who look cool as what show I could go to.

17:29 So I liked Rip with Rip magazine, and there was this one journalist, long and friend, and I would just read anything that he wrote about that journalist, like we had the same musical taste. I would buy everything that he would say and I would always be happy. So I used to go to this record store in the Valley, OZ Records, and there was this record clerk there who When me and any of my teenage friends would come by, he would recommend albums to us. Here, check this out. You know, my first Venom album he handed to me. I think that's how everyone got. Their right right and uh, that that's Brian Slagle, the owner of Metal Blade Records.

18:14 He was he was so brilliant. He was so brilliant. He started his record label while he was working as a record store clerk. That dude really had it. He knew what he was doing. Oh, no doubt, obviously. Say that now, But just look at all the stuff that was on all the all the amazing bands on his label. Oh, anybody that came out of la back in the eighties were on his label. Anybody, it didn't matter who it was. And that was I told him years later, I'm like, man, that was a brilliant marketing plan. He's like, I was just a record store clerk. Like it wasn't even like he was very humble about was it. Like some brilliant planet just worked out.

18:59 It was also a whole lot, like the whole tape trading thing was happening back then. There's a lot of underground a lot of traffic in the undergrounds, if you if you had your ear to that a little bit, you got hooked up with some really great stuff. Oh no doubt. I still have the Metallica demo that from tape trading that you can't even tell what it says on it because it was like recorded over like fifty times. You have no clue its metallic. So yeah, that's when we we gotta bring that back. You guys can start a new tape trading. You know, thinking about that recently about mail order like a fan club like mail order, send self address, stamp, envelope for somefing you know remember you used to be able to do that with bands. Yeah, and you know, just to do like it's you the whole online stuff too easy, send mail. Yeah about starting that up, and you're what do you think about that?

20:01 I think it's a great idea. I think I think it's great. I love it. It's like back in the day we had those little like job handmade newspapers for the tape trading, Like that's how you it would be like send to this po box. Yeah, I used to. I used to do that. If I moved to a new place, first thing I did was I look for the local music mag and like signed up for ship and did all that. I think a lot of people don't get this part of it, what we're talking about. Like because we're because we're seniors. Maybe that might be it. But you know, it's like the people that saved me. I used to like metal.

20:43 I'm like, oh, well, you probably never did if you used to, if you used to, like come on, but uh yeah, everybody's got to check out for all my friends and yeah, and check out your party. Uh you know, let's see you at some festivals next year. Help us out, pipe Man. Let's do it. Not vote for. You, you vote for pipe Man for pres Yeah all right, guys, love it. Thanks for being on Ventures of pipe Many, thank you, thank you. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pipe Man on w for c u I Radio.