PipemanRadio Interviews Gavin Sharp of Survivalist About Radio Bleed

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0:40 H fucking fake friends and what for sake? Married? Now? I know that you get a bag marry are you. Get out? Fat job? But god, this is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm going back across the pond again. I might. You know, people have said I should just move over that way because I'm so involved in the scene there, And I can tell you too that I don't know. In this day and age, with all the shit that's going on, I like it and I feel more free and safe over it on that side upon than I do on this side upon. But here we are with some killer new music from a killer band from Ireland. So let's welcome to a show gave from Survivalist.

1:34 How are you yeah, I'm good now, I'm good. Yeah. I mean certain areas definitely, there's definitely obviously bonuses that live in here. Than in America, but there's also still the country's still run by pocket dick heads. Mon So wherever you are, you know you're going to get them. Well, you know, it's funny you should say that, because I travel a lot for years and years now and this year in particular more than ever, that statement is true everywhere in the world. It's like I used to go to places to escape the insanity going on here, and now I just go somewhere else that has the insanity.

2:14 And when I talk to my friends on your side upon you know, it's people don't realize this. It's one thing when you're visiting someplace. It's another thing when you live there and have to deal with it. Like as an American going to the UK, I don't have to deal with the bullshit you have to deal with, you know. So so yeah, it's like, oh, I feel much better over here, Dan, You'll you live there, And it's and I've experienced it in other places because I've lived in multiple places. And it's like when I was younger, I always moved to where I vacation before I ever got married and had kids. That was what I was known for in my family. It's like vacation somewhere, I'm like, oh fuck, I'm moving here, and like the next week I would move there.

3:06 I think any vacation I've ever been on, every time I leave, or if it's tour, if we're away, every time I leave that place, I'm like, fuck, I would love to move here. But then it's it's the same as you live anywhere, man, everywhere, every location in the world, every place, every town in every city, every country has its own shit, you know what I mean, No doubt, you're just kind of desensitized it that because you're there on holiday and you only see the nice tour sea bits, but you're not living there every day, dealing with taxes and dealing with getting shofted by the man. Totally. Well, here's a perfect example. Okay, my son is in the Army. My dor in law, her ex husband, was in the Army. Both were stationed in Germany. My son lived off base. He didn't want to live on base, so he lived as if he were amongst the Germans, not on an American military base. Okay, daughter, on the other hand, she lived on the military base. She loved Germany.

4:05 She wants to still live there now. She that was the greatest place on Earth. My son not so much. What's the difference she was living in Germany, but in America. In Germany, when you're living on. The base, yeah, you know, dealing with the actual base and my. Son alone, but dealing with the utility companies was enough to make and want to, you know, jump ship, you know, and see. That's something you don't when you're vacationing or like your station somewhere in the military on a base. You don't realize those real life situations that people that actually our locals go through.

4:47 Yeah, no, I agree, And it's the same with where we are situated now. Obviously I like where I live. I like Ireland. I like Belfast. We're actually just outside Belfast, so the majority of the band, three out of four of us live in place called Banger which is about fifteen miles out, but we we typically play all of our shows in Belfast. Whatever it comes to overland. So Belfast is our home city and it's where the majority of our fan bases is where the majority of our family are, you know what I mean. But I love living here. I love the majority of the aspects of living here, and in comparison to other countries in the world. We're very fortunate, and especially with the state of the world, Ukraine, Palestine, all those countries that are just getting invaded and shit's hitting the fan all around the world. We're very fortunate to where we are. But yeah, it still comes with us drawbacks. They're still government, there's still politicians in power that just shouldn't be there. There's still parties in power that shouldn't be there. They're still you know, the everyday man.

5:53 Taxes are still fucking going up every single fucking day. People are still paying out of their assholes for absolutely fuck all different crisises. Ridiculous. Homeless crisis is ridiculous. But I love my city and I love Ireland, and yeah, that's why we kind of put that at the forefront, because we are from Belfast. We are a Belfast band. And I love hearing that too, And you know, you kind of reminded me of like, I'm originally from New York and New Jersey and I was born in New York, grew up in Jersey. I love New York City and I love to leave New York City, like I love living just outside the city. And that's what I would thinking of when you were talking about you live just outside Belfast. It's like, yeah, to me, the city is home, but I like living just outside the city where I can escape it.

6:43 Yeah, type of thing. And I think we're very fortunate as well to be part of the community that we're part of, obviously being part of the alternative community, in the metal community, in rock and all of that kind of music that we're into a lot of people that are a lot more open minded, a lot more understanding. Don't get me wrong, you still get that. It's like everywhere, you know what I mean, But like the majority of the people are a lot more open minded. They're they're more willing to have a conversation, they're more willing to hear of you, they're more willing to step back and separate themselves from a situation and actually listen to people speak. I'm a big believer in that. Okay, so listen. You know, you have to really talk to people to get where their head's at. And you know, in this country we have that problem right now. Nobody can talk to each other other because god forbid, you don't agree exactly with what they're saying. Then the name calling, the attacking and all that starts. But the bottom line is do you know why they're what their reasons are? You know, sometimes there are good reasons, like you know, even with our you know politics here, sometimes people vote for people they don't really want to vote for or don't like, but because it may affect their career, you know, and so they have to vote a certain way so that they can protect their livelihood and their family and all that.

8:05 Yeah, which is crazy. And then these people are called out by the public because they've been you know, they've seen that they're supporting certain parties or certain individuals, and then these people get called out and then how their career is conceled. But that's the culture that we live in though. Right, Yeah, the opinion. You can't have something that's or something that affects your life. It's ridiculous. All your opinion from the start. That's the that's the that's the key. Have your opinion from the very beginning. If you have your opinions and your views locked in before you start growing your community and start growing the people that are surrounding you, you can't you can't fail, you know what I mean exactly because you're the people that are going to fow you and support. You're gonna people that follow and support your views and opinions totally. And that's why I love about the metal community because there are no outsiders, and you know, we don't have to think the same, we don't have to do anything, look the same, anything the same. But we communicate with each other and we're one big family that everybody is entitled to be themselves.

9:02 It's super inclusive and it's even down to fashion, you know, dress, sense, music, everything, any way you want to express yourself as a person. The metal seeing the metal community hardcore as well, is exactly the same hardcore scene, hardcore community, all those guys. There's just that inclusivity that's not there in other music genres. It's not there. I think the only other music genre like sort of outside that, and I'll side those sort of alternative spans. I've seen a lot of this in is hip hop. There's a lot of real to governess and hip hop, especially at the underground hip hop scenes which are sort of exploding in Ireland at the moment, which is class. Yeah. So I think that it's it's good to be part of this and it's good to be in a band that are kind of we float between genres. We're not stuck. We don't we don't railroad ourselves and call ourselves a metal band. We like we've we've been calling ourselves for a while groove core because it's.

9:55 The Yeah, I was like, that's pretty cool, Yeah, groove. Course probaly like it started as a joke within the band, like it was us just saying ironically, it was never supposed to be a real thing, but in terms of like actual genre of shift and it's probably the thing that personifies us the most because we've got the core stuff from deathcore, hardcore, metal core that we have in there as well. But then there's also a lot of groove. There's a lot of heavy influence from groove metal bands, especially everybody in the band is a Pantera fan. And this is I'm gonna say right from the beginning, that's to me, that's the groove part of your hands in. And this and this then falls back to what we were talking about earlier. People like following certain individuals. Phil in Sound was a bit of a douchebag, isn't he?

10:41 But like I love Pantera, I always fucking will man, They'll always be one of my favorite bands. Fills on some stupid ship in the past, but that's not gonna stop me from like in their music. Well, you know what, I'm glad you brought that up, because you know, a lot of people make mistakes tay stupid ship or what they say against misconstruction or what they do getst misconstrued. I know Phil personally, and I'm a Jew, so by what and I'm walking my talk by the way the world is right now, I wouldn't like him just because I'm a Jew, because of the fucking rumors and or stupid. He's the nicest guy man, and like he doesn't like he got a bad rap with being just stupid. And you know, when you're doing drugs.

11:31 And this is well, I think some of it was just fucking stupidity. So of it with stupidity. Some of it was too much fucking booze. But that's what I'm saying. When you're drunk or on drugs, you do stupid ship that you don't even know you're fucking doing. And yeah, you can't sit there and blame it on that because you made the choice to do it. But you know, sit down and communicate with somebody and find out what really happened instead of like assuming and I think education it's key, even if like this will blow your mind. But I actually literally sat down and had a conversation where real neo Nazi because I was forced to work with this dude, and I had two choices.

12:14 I could either talk to him and find out why why he thinks the way he does and maybe kind of helped to modify his thinking by acting the right way. Or I could kick the ship out of him and just prove the point of why he hated me just for being a Jew. There was a clear there was a clear third option there. You could have done both. Yeah, right, right, That's my first thing is to kick the ship out of him. But you know, I did talk to him, and what I found out was he was just brainwashed but by stupiding or people that it's the only people he was surrounded with, and he was told.

12:54 And then when he was talking to me, instead of me attacking him and being an asshole, he listened because I wasn't being asshole and it was like, oh wow, maybe they were wrong, and like it changed his viewpoints. You're not going to change people's viewpoints by eating the piss out of their opinion. You know they're good beat the piss back. I'm a big fan of people as well, man, Like I'm a big believer in people and a big believer obviously people shape us, especially being a band, You've got to believe in people. People are the ones that pay your tickets, They're the ones that by your merch, they're the people that turn up to your shows, and they're the reason why you can do what you do. So I have to believe in people, and I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. And it hasn't hit me in the ass, probably more fucking times than I could care to remember. But at the same time, I like to give people those second chances. I like to believe that people can be better.

13:50 It's a better way to be for yourself. Man. Of course, it sucks walking around angry all the time, you know, And like, the politicians are the ones doing the politicians throughout the world are the ones turning us against each other, and we need to stand up against all of them. My viewpoint is they're all on the same team, and it ain't mine like that. In my country, Democrat, Republican, it don't fucking matter. There are two sides of the same fucking coin, and they yes, they could go fuck themselves, all of them. Yeah, all politicians. Like, don't get me wrong, there probably is good politicians in there, and there's also probably politicians that I think are pieces of shit. But they maybe have some views and they maybe have some opinions on stuff that I do agree with. They've maybe done some things that I thought, Oh, you know what, that's good.

14:37 But that doesn't make you a good fucking person just because you've gone and maybe had one or two wins. Yeah, being a good person is that's where you're moral compass points to, Like you're not a good person from being a fucking sex offender or being an absolute fucking din with Like, yeah, well we really went and fucking heavy here straight off the butt, didn't we were? Well yeah, Like it's part of your music too, which is what I because you know, so many people say that musicians should stop preaching and like stick to the music. That is what music's about. It's about expression, and it is about getting those things out of you. It's therapy, getting the anger out, getting the things that piss you off.

15:19 In the world, music has always been a voice for the un injustices in society, Like, so, why all of a sudden should it not have a voice. It's fucking ridiculous. I think it's the most powerful voice we can have, and I have this philosophy we could solve all the world problems if we had just one major music festival that was a rock metal music festival that the whole world was required to attend, and then we could just work everything out in the fucking pit, like. A purge for music. It is all of death ever and boom, yes it is.

16:04 People don't know in the pit, we're not out there to hurt and name and people. We're out there so we don't. It's expressionism and it's a way for people to escape from the everyday bullshit that they're facing the society at the moment. And I think that's why music and escapism is so, so so important as well. And circling back to what you mentioned about keeping your voice and keeping music music and keeping politics and keeping all that show on music, it's fucking stupid, Like if that happened. Some of the greatest music that's ever been written or created has been written because it's either politically driven or it's being driven by emotional response, or it's a cry for help, or it's to do with substance and alcohol abuse. There is always a story there. So if you are those people that sit home, be like, keep your politics out of my music, keep your keep your messages out of my music. I just want to shut the fuck up.

16:56 All of your music's got messages in it. Yeah, and to your point about the human being thing, Okay, I'm big about that. Just be a good human being. I'll give a fuck what you believe. As well as you're not intentionally try to hurt people. Just you do you just don't intentionally try to hurt people. Ye, and perfect example. I don't know if you saw what happened. I think it was yesterday fucking Roger Waters. Oh yeah, yeah, fucking talking shit about Ozzie, Like, dude, the dude just passed away. His family is in mourning.

17:37 He's a real person. Yet. Yeah, whether you liked Osbourne or not, or whether you liked his music or not, or wherever you agreed with his opinions. And yes, as he did some fucking stupid shit, like he was high off his drugs. He did stupid stuff like bite the heads of animals. He did some other horrible things with animals knocking into But I loved Ozzie Olsbourne. I loved Ozzie growing up. He influenced me as a musician, influenced metal as a music. He influenced every single person that is in this genre. Cannot like there's no one that can stand back, Like we wouldn't be here without all the else, you know what I mean, There's so much, whether you dislike the guy you so much to be grateful for. The end of the day, all that bad, shitty day ended up a good human being.

18:18 You know, people change, people fucking change people. We stopped taking drugs, people stop fucking drinking all the time. People try to change their ways, but this is the society that we live in now. Man, you don't get that second chance anymore. You make one mistake and you're fucking out the door. You know what I mean, It's not we're humans. We are creatures of chaos. We're creatures of emotion. We have anger, we have sadness, we hate, we have animosity, we have everything withinside us and every single person that's on this bonnet has that. So also be kind to people. Take a step back, realize situations that other people were in and obviously there are whankers out there as well that don't deserve those chances. But try and be kind, try and try and remember that we're all try to get from A to B and we're all trying to get there the same way, and we're all trying to work shit out our own ways.

19:06 Like so yeah, and so that's what I love about your music, because your music is not only badass and heavy as shit, but it sends strong positive messages and talks against the negativity in society. And I'm all about that. And I don't know, like, it's funny you made a comment earlier and I'm thinking, now we've really made the radio bleed today, But that's it. So funny. Story about the actual song title, so Radiobly, we was a replacement for a track that we had written on the album that we weren't very happy with, and so we've shelved up for now, we're keeping some of the risk. We're going to deconstruct it and we'll obviously probably built it into a track in the future.

19:51 So we took that song of the album and we needed another song. So Nick on research she went to Racist Elswitz, where We do all the demos, so Reese is our drummer. For anybody who doesn't know, Reese records all of our demos and then we obviously take them into the studio so that we're a bit prepared for Josh. Josh is like the fifth member of this band. Without Josh, our songs wouldn't sound anything like the way they do. We help write, we have ideas. We collaborate on our music together, and I think that's what a good producer does. It's a collaboration. It's not just band go and record this shit. And it's not just a producer being like I'm going to changes because I like it. It's the collaboration, which is what we've always had with Josh. So we took this song off the album and we were driving in the car after I had heard the initial song, and it was fantastic. Like I remember recent Nick sending the riffs through for Radio Bleed and just being like, this is fucking class this literally, And I'm quite picky, so a lot of the times, like when they sent me stuff, I'll be like, no, no, this needs to be changed, this needs to go here, this needs to go there. But they sent me the song. It was essentially perfect, and it's the first time that that ever happened.

20:55 So the main thing that stuck out to me was there was that main riff the whole way through the down but the bam but damn but but the bam but damn. So that's like, it was so repetitive, and it's so throughout the song, and it pops up in different places in the background, and I was like, that's like one riff the whole way through the song, but it's in different variations and we're doing different things with it and there's stops. I was like, whatever songs do that bleed Bleed by My Sugar was, And I know they're not similar. I know that they're not in the even in the same same genre, but the same Yeah, yeah, having that same riff pattern the whole way through. But then we were like, but let's let's make it like Bleed but something you'd maybe hear on a rock radio station, because you know, like My Sugar isn't getting played at two o'clock in the afternoon on a rock radio station.

21:43 But I will kind of give it that New age feel, a bit of hip hop with the DJ scratch and stuff in the background and kind of bring it in the twenty twenty five. So that is where the song name radio Bleed comes from. I love it. It could be like a radio version of blea. I love it. That's pretty cool. And I really dug too about the video is that it was done in a skateboard part because I'm a skateboarder. The only thing I have to say is, man, you guys should have been skateboarding while playing. Well we were. If you actually, if you look at the video, are guitarist Nick. There's a few shots of Nick in the background, and there's a few shots of Nick with the guitar on the skateboard.

22:24 See I missed the part or the guitar on the skateboard, so yeah, he is. There's a few shots. I corrected. That's either because like, there's so much happening. It's such a busy video, and we decided we wanted to do it in in four to three because we just you know, bit edgy ear. Put those black bars at the side, rewind people back to the nineties and how music videos used to look. They're not in sixteen nine anymore. It's not all clean, it's not all polished. That was kind of the aspect of it. And the main message in between between between behind uh radio bleed is so we've all had a friendship or a relationship, or we've known somebody and that has either went toxic or they've fallen out, or that person has stabbed them in the back, and we've all kind of felt that way. And you know yourself, whether it be an individual or a group of people, you always feel ostracized. You feel isolated, you feel on your own, you feel like you've got nowhere to turn to and nobody to speak to when you're going through that situation with either those people or those individuals. And then you realize when you take a step back and you take a breath and you look around you, there's always someone to speak to, whether it's a friend, whether it's a family member, whether it's just reaching out to somebody.

23:39 If you don't have any immediate friends or family. There's other support groups, there's other charities, there's stuff. There is always going to be somebody who will open an ear and listen to you, no matter how isolated and how ostracized you feel like you are being from society, from your friends, from your family, and radiobled is about to goeverness within that. So it's about finding a piece within the chaos and finding the the community where you belong kind of thing. And that was, you know, just kind of put your feet back, having a beer, drinking some buck fast as we do in the video as well. And they were not props. They were actually gone. Well listen, you wouldn't be irish if they were props.

24:23 And you know what's cool too, is as you were talking about the old school nineties thing, I was thinking about him, like, you know, not the music itself, but the video gives me like reminders of old suicidal videos. Yeah, that's it. It's old school suicidal tendencies, old school Pantera Like, it's all that, like old school nineties togetherness as well. Get off your fucking phone, stop scrolling, go and sit in the skate park where your friends have a drink. What's your mate to a kickflip, break his fucking wrist and not see you again for three months. But that's that's real life, you know what I mean? Like, that's yeah, it's that is the world that we live in, and it's a bit more of what we want to capture.

25:08 We want to One of the sentences I've said about our music before is that it is familiar and reminiscent, but it's also current and cohesive. So it's we've got all those aspects of the old school bands that influence this, like Pantera, like Machine Head, like uh Jus Praise blocksab of all those guys. There's elements of that old school sound within our music and within our even our visuals and the way we look. But also we wanted to make sure that a new, polished radio sound. And I love hearing that too, because nowadays I find that I don't know a lot of metal is so programmatic, is the best way to put it. I I call it like an algebraic equation to make a metal song.

25:57 And they and like some of these, like with the micro genres. That's why I love it. You know, it's funny you made me laugh when you're saying how you came up with groove core, because I do that shit in interviews at festivals all the time. I'll have bands like, if you were to pick what genre and make up a new genre that was your genre, what would be? And I do it because it's so ridiculous how many genres subgenres. Micro genres there are that. Yeah, there might as well be one for every band because it's so stupid and and a lot of those genres they're so fine tune that they use a you know, a formula to make metal music. Metal music was never a formula.

26:39 So bands like you that are bringing in different elements that's what makes you unique and stand out because it's it's not predictable. It's sole, and it's it's the same as our live performance. Anybody who's ever came to see us live. Yes, we use box trucks. I think it's probably in this day and age, fucking stupid not to use them. But our back tracks are so minimalistic. You will literally hear maybe some sense or something in the background, but what you're seeing live is live as fuck. We don't use in ears. We still play through the monitor. I don't use anything at all. The only person that uses any sort of click track or anything like that in the band is O drummer, and that's just to keep the rest of us tight. Everything else is just off him. So we play like a traditional band as well. And it's been said to us so many times when people are kind to say his life. It's raw, it's energetic, it's impactful, and you feel like you've gone to see a live band.

27:38 I have seen so many bands recently, man, and I'm actually fucking sick of it, to be honest, going to see bands that sound exactly like they do on record. Yeah, we not differentiate, they don't try. There's no jamming, there's no mistakes, there's no mistakes, there's no there's no fucking about, there's no like you know, we have a so we do. We pulls our bocking truck a few times throughout our set, and we do things on top of that. So our druma will hit pause and we will just well riff. We'll do some bits and pieces, and it's something that's lost in music now. And I've seen bonds as well. They all have their in ears in they're hearing everything coming through their head and they're completely disconnected from their crowded don't. They don't speak to anybody, like I've said, they just stand there and they played their music the funk off. They don't go We'll get the fuck up on stage, you know, Oh put this fucking place up.

28:32 I was gonna say if I was singing and I had the ind Ears in, I would not even feel like I was there. I would feel like I was in a studio, you know, like you want to be part of the audience. I want to hear the audience. I want to feel the audience. I want to be part of it, you know. So to your point of being disconnected, yeah, I've always felt that with the in Ears, Like if I were a singer, I wouldn't want that ship, you know, I wanted to be part of it. That's part of being a front person too. And we never want to move to That's something that I've said. I don't know that probably doesn't align with certain maybe labels or certain management or anything like that, but it's not something that we're willing to compromise on.

29:14 Our live sound is fucking good like and that's me speaking non biased from somebody who has just heard videos of us, who has seen videos of us play. Our life sounds good and it doesn't need any more than what it's got. Now. Would I want to add more production in stage shows, some screens and shit behind us doing cool stuff? You know, fire all that shit one hundred percent right, Visuals. Different, that's just a performance. Part of aspect of it, but. The actual sound that stays the same because that's where our that's our heart, you know what I mean, that's our soul. That's where, that's our expressionism. That's where we get the fuck about. That's where we get to interact with our fans. That's how we create these unique live experiences where people are coming and they're fucking climbing up poles and all sorts. Like we've got people climb on roofs and everything in our shows, like it's been wild.

30:02 I love it. That's old school too, because I've been at shows like that back in the day. Yeah, and I think you lose that now. I think in airs you lose that. And I've been, like I said, so many so many bonds that I've seen recently, and they're just standing on stage, they're going through the motions they're playing. I get it as well, if you're a tour or not, it's exhausting. It is exhausting, like being on the road for so long. And I get that sometimes you might just have a night where you want to stand. But I think that if there are people, it's like being paid for a service, isn't it? Like your your fans are paying tickets to come and see. Yeah, if you're a true artist, yes it's tiring, but once the year up on that stage, it's like you go into the zone. Like even me times when I'm sick, as soon as I turn on the mic, I'm not sick.

30:52 I don't allow myself to be in my head and since the MIC's off, then I can fucking die. That's the way I look at it, okay, And that anybody that has passion for what they do, that is how it is. Like. You know, you're in the zone. You're up on stage, and yeah, you may be tired as fuck, but the real artist give it everything they have and leave it all on the stage. Yeah. And it's something that I'll say about my boys as well. And I'm not just do in flight my own ego here to like obviously, Race sets behind the kit. Race is behind a kit. He gets he stands up every now and again, he'll go give a bit of a shout to the crowd and put his hands up and shit, but he's behind a kit. And then you've got Nick, who is fucking crazy, Like Nick is climbing over the crowd. Nick is in the crowd like every single show we played up boy is in the crowd with a circle pit or some shit going around him.

31:45 Lee is the same, Lee gets off stage a bit, But Lee is the difference between Lee and Nick is Lee's a classically trained musician. Lee has a master's in music, which he never talks about by the way talking time, But Lea is classically trained. And when you watch Lee play, he plays a six string bass. We match our six string guitar with a six string bass, and Leah's like just fucking doing loads of odd slapping shit and he's doing loads of like crazy almost toasting a BASSI sort of styles stop it on bass. And it's the difference between them too. Lee's effort and energy goes into his precision, whereas Nick's effort and energy goes into giving a good stage show alongside me. So we've got a really nice balance.

32:30 We've got the sound and everything being leveled right and everything being having that polished sound, but there's also that rawness and that aggression and that energy to the performance as well. Nice And speaking of live, you have some tour dams coming up this month and next month, including one that is in your hometown at Limelight in Belfast. Yep. So that brought me back because I used to hang out at a club Line Light in New York. That was a famous club back in the day. Yeah, that was insane and it was an old church that was converted into a club, so you would climb up to the top and ring the bell like after you got drunk, stupid.

33:19 Yeah. The Linme Light's kind of our home ground, so that would be our home stage. We play the majority of our headline shows and majority of our support shows and stuff were in the Lime Light. And yeah, we've got so this month in September, we are in Nottingham. On the twenty fourth, we're in Birmingham and Subside on the twenty fifth. On the twenty sixth we're in the Griffin and Bristol. On the twenty seventh were in San Diego's and the Eads, and then on the twenty eighth we finish up in Newcastle. That's the UK leg and then we are back for the eighth, ninth and tenth. Eighth is in Limerick with di Artists Murder on Harriet, and then the ninth is in Belfast with Thy Artist Murder and Harriet, and then tenth saying I don't know why I said their name twice, but yeah, we're in Dublin.

34:09 But yeah, that was That was a That is one of the biggest achievements we've probably had to date, was landing that tour Nice with artist murdered. It's a fucking huge band. Yeah, Harriet as well. They're an up and common British band and they are fucking outstanding. If you've oh, yeah, they're badass. I interviewed them over at Bloodstock. They're yeah, they're great and they seem like we haven't really met them when we've spoken them an yet, but they all seem like nice people. They all like give they've like, uh, I think it's Jillian's their drummer, like he gives us the time of day, responds the messages and stuff like that. And that's what it's all about, isn't it. It's like it's something that we do as well, like it's anyone who reaches out for our social media's and I guess this goes out to anybody who's listening right now. A big part of what we do is about the governess. It's about mental health, it's about supporting each other, it's about community. I have a massive, Hate Brief and Hatebrey sort of got me into hardcore, which is my biggest love of music at the moment. Especially hardcore is you know, it's about standing shoulder to the shoulder with your friends. It's about picking your made up if they're full, and it's about picking strangers up if they've fallen. It's inclusivity again, and that is a big part of what our music is a well, that's why we're called survivalist. We're called survivalists because it's all we're fucking all trying to do to survive on this planet, and we're all trying to do. And for anybody who's listening to this now, if you're ever struggling, if you ever are, if you're not coping with your head, if you're not coping with any aspect of your life, our dms are always open. Am I going to get back

35:41 to you fucking immediately? Maybe not? Maybe so I might, I might reply straight away. But if you're having a rough day and you're feeling like there's no fucking other way out and shit's looking dark and you can't see the light at the end of the tunnel, never do anything fucking stupid. Please drop us a message speak to speak to any member of the band. That's what we're here for. I love it. I love your attitude and your music screams that same attitude. Everybody's gotta definitely check you out where. Tell everybody where they can connect to you guys on socials where they can check out your new music, merch all that good stuff. Yeah, of course, so we uh, we're a me albound. We're not a YouTuber, so we we know how how difficult it is to grow YouTube, So we typically use our channels for our videos. Channels like Slam Worldwide. You can find our music on You can find our music on the Circle Pit TV as well for YouTube, and then our older singles are still on our channel as well, and then we'll maybe upload them in the future at some point once we finished the album cycle on the our channel, so they're easier to find for everyone. But for our Instagram is right here. And I did this just before this call, and as I said Pipemin, I said, I'm doing this so that I don't have to shamelessly sell promote us. But here the fuck I am. Yeah, we are at Survival dot GC dot groof Court. You can find us on that handle for anything. We're on TikTok, We're on Facebook, we're on Linktree, we're in your mom's DMS, We're fucking everywhere.

37:13 I love it. Well, you guys are badass. Everybody needs to check you out and look forward to seeing a lot more from you. Fucking have a blast on that tour too. And and thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man. Yeah, thanks everybody for listening. I'm thanks very much. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pipemin im W for c u I Radio.