PipemanRadio Interviews Future Palace About Distortion and Cognitive Distortion

0:04 Hey, you have unto censure. I'm w for Wow. Pray young, Wake up America. It's time for the Adventures of pipe Man on W four c Y dot com. West pomp Beach is number one Internet radio station. Here's your host, the pipe Man. A magmatically a checked to my bus can go.

0:54 It is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here with a our next guest who has some badass music. But more importantly, the message in the music is so important, not only in general, but today more than ever. So let's welcome to show Maria from Future Palace. How are you hello? Nice to be here. I'm good. I'm in the ress room right now. Nice rare interview place for me. Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. How are you very cool? Oh I'm doing great. I'm here in South Florida, so we're rather yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, it's crazy this time of the year because the weather, you know, it's it's funny. It's very similar to Germany because I have friends there and like, I'm why of my friends. I'm talking to her and you know, every day we're matching the weather and it's pretty cool.

1:56 It's pretty close because we have bipolar weather time of year two. Oh yeah, that's insane here right now because it's so hot in overhouse the room. But then the next day there's thunderstorms again, and then it's hot again and it's cold again, and oh it plays with my body as well. I was like so dizzy the past days. Oh yeah, and you guys, I don't know about by you, but by where she is they had like a major flood. So she's from west, from the west of Germany. I think she's Lingcoln. It's like I think, I think it's like northwest. It's about three hours from Amsterdam, near einhobe Hope.

2:36 Oh yeah, then it's we are like the like we're from Berlin, east of Berlin, also the east of Berlin, but east of Germany. So the weather can be very different. But I normally come to Berlin during the winter, so the weather's not really that great. Yeah, be happy, because who the hell wants to be in the city when it's hot, Because, I mean, were some stuff to do. We have some pretty legs. We have to spree the river. That is cool, but besides that, I would rather pick a beach or something when it's like thirty plus degrees. How much of funen hybrid. Yeah yeah, that's about ninety fahrenheit around.

3:17 Ah yeah yeah nice. So yeah, that's pretty much. We have like thirty thirty one degrees every day during the summer or hotter. But then we have thunderstorms like every day, but they only last like a short time, Like you're gonna be sitting here in this interview right now and it'll be beautiful wow, which it is, and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, Yeah, the worm comes in, just massive destruction, and then it's gone, like it never happened. That actually happened yesterday. It's why I'm here right now. I was supposed to be here yesterday in the reheuse room, but there was a thunderstorm suddenly out of nowhere for a few hours, and I'm like, okay, well I'm not going to drive the bike there, so right, funny funny.

4:05 And I do want to say, like, the first time I ever went to Berlin, I was so impressed because I'm a Jew, American Jew. So if you've never been to Berlin and your American Jew, you're like, I don't really want to go there because there's this misconception, you know, from going way back, but it's so different nowadays, and I want people to know, like it was one of my favorite cities in the world because it's so progressive and it's so not what you would think it is compared to what it used to be. Oh my god. Yeah, I think everyone from the past would hate Berlin and burn it first. That's why we are from Berlin. We were raised here, born here, and I'm always shocked when I go outside of Berlin because there's this running guck that Berlin is only no Berlin and nothing else from Germany because like the main thing, and you don't need to go, and that's so true.

5:01 I feel like I'm living proof of that now because of touring, I got to know German anymore. But I never left the city. I would rather go to another country, and I think I've been to more countries than I've been to other cities in Germany because I just feel pretty at home here. I mean, it makes sense, but also lots of people move within Germany, and many people moved to Berlin at aretasen. Yeah, progressive and open minded, and I'm very lucky to be born here and I feel like I fit in here quite well. And I couldn't think of another city in Germany at least where I would fit in more. I see and the underground or even above ground music scene there is so cool. Like some of the places I went to, like some of the you know, like pub type places that were metal where some of the and I've been to all the iconic venues throughout my life, they were some of the coolest venues I ever went to.

5:58 It was, Oh wow, the whole vibe. You know, it's like if you're a metal head, you belong Inlin. Berlin. Oh nice, I think, Uh, it's when have you been here? Because it's now very very I mean it's always been very techno like raving everywhere I saw that. I saw that too. The last time I was there was right before COVID. Okay, so not too long ago, I mean now yeah, okay, now, I think sadly after COVID, a lot of clubs had to close down because of financial issues. And actually one of my favorite events was called Rocket Stage. I don't know if you know that, Like it's in the Kidcat Club, but it's not the Kid Cat So if you're familiar with Berlin. You know that location, but it has like a pool and everything, and I went there many times to like party rock rock clubs, and it doesn't happen there anymore. I'm very very sad about. Also, had we had a Furst Ever shows future Pellas in that club, so that was so iconic and I'm very sad that it's now not happening in that club anymore. Very versaid, so lots of one of my favorite clubs. Also. Actually that was the first show I think or second it closed down completely, not a location anymore.

7:19 Well, that's like okay, So I used to go to shows at the Roxy on the Sunset Strip back in the eighties when that was the height of that and you know that was known for bands like Metallica playing there, Slayer playing there, And now to your point, it's mostly techno in house music. Yeah. The whole idea of the Roxy on the Sunset Strip being techno house music just kind of blows my mind. Yeah, I feel like it's I don't know how the scene is going here in Berlin. I feel like we are one of the very very few bands that still do this and that are not underground here in Berlin.

8:07 There used to be a bigger metal scene here, but it kind of died out because like it's sad, techno and all that stuff, and it's pretty hard to find like events these days that do that are bigger that do metal stuff. There are of course still events that do that, but I'm actually pretty happy because I feel like we kind of bring that scene back to life here because we also with the new album, we do connect bits of techno here and there bits of electronic parts, which I think is funny and just suits where we are from, and it also kind of combines both worlds, and that's kind of my wish that maybe we could bring all these people back together. And we are kind of because we're now going to play Hugs Lays here in Berlin on our headline tour, which is very weird for me to think of because I've been seeing huge acts there and I'm very happy to be playing there and in my own home tone nice.

9:03 That's very cool, and yeah, I think I think it is cool, Like, Okay, so you'll love this. I was covering because I go around the world and I do radio coverage of music festivals everywhere in the States, Europe, UK and a few years ago I was doing download and one of my photographer friends like, come on, we gotta go catch a set. It's a band I never saw, and it was in the tent and we go in there and I'm like, At first, I was like, well, that's not really my type of music, and then about ten seconds later I was like, oh my god, this is like the best live show ever.

9:47 Oh it was. It was Electric call Boy. Oh when I wasn't still with the old electric hall work kind of thing or what they are now. I don't know because I didn't know them, but it wasn't long ago. Was a few years ago. And then I've seen them a bunch of times since now because they've played at US metal festivals and I just saw them at Grass Pop. Yeah. I think to your point, that's kind of stuff like that is bringing the genres together, because I I hate how people are like these gatekeepers of music and artists and genres. I come from that time, and I hated it then. I thought it was stupid, like I couldn't go to punk shows because I was a metal head.

10:32 It was Yeah, that's not the point of that. Yeah exactly. So I love that nowadays that even here in the US we're taking a queue from the European festivals and actually blending genres in the festivals. And you know, what music is music, and if you collect you that's all that matters. You know, you can be a metal head and listen to anything, like why people think and some metal heads are like so perc if you can only listen to Blackened Death technical blah blah, It's like that's just stupid. Like I can like multiple things. You know, absolutely, and you should. I think it is staying open minded and that's kind of the thing you should be in life in general. And I enjoy it so much when we play now bigger festivals together with artists that are different from us, it's so refreshing and so nice. I just love it. And that's also what we kind of are here for. We're here to be not this typical metalcore bands, and I think we are not for any reasons, and we can feel that when we are a festivals that are a bit more old school, when it's very typical metal core, we kind of point out because our stick out because we are not like that, really, and I noticed that and I'm happy about that because also at our shows, actually they are so different. The crowds are very different from every city, and like Copenhagen, it looked like a student party with like many many also didn't even look alternative at all. And then we

12:02 went to to like boot Up Pass and it looked like a full of metal show, like mainly mainly man and it switched and then sometimes older people than younger people. And I love that about us, you know, about our crowds, and that is so cool because that is my goal to combine as many people as possible. I love it. And music to me is like the best therapy and your music is a perfect example of that because you touch on pretty much every type of therapy that I think the whole world needs right now in twenty twenty four. Yeah, well, thank you. I hope it kind of helps people. That would be the ideal thing, and I think it does help people already. But this album is very personal once again and picks up many different mental health issues.

12:49 So yeah, it is therapy. It was therapy for me as well. Well that's the key too, isn't it. It's like it's the therapy for the artists. But then people put their own meaning to it, you know, and like I'm even big into There's certain things that just hit you, like it's funny. We're talking about metalcore and people changing, like who's getting the most flat nowadays? For changing? Bring me to Horizon, and to me, I think they're brilliant and funny because I wasn't the old school, and that's why I'm not gatekeeper ish with them. It's like, yeah, you know, I started listening to them. I think that's simpaternal, you know, And then I went to the back catalog and I like that. But I can appreciate other things too, And I really appreciate when Ali interview once said, why do I want to make the same song over and over and game?

13:43 Oh my god. Absolutely. I already have to struggle with myself because you, first of all, you tour and you sing the same songs over and over again, and I think art is exactly that movement. And I don't. I don't think that copying the same hung over and over again is art. I think that's just capitalism and being in a I don't know, just reproducing the same product because it sells, Like, what's the point of that. I'm doing this to have fun? And having fun to me is not repeating the same thing if it's fun for you, I don't judge, but that's why I really love this band, and I've also joined Bringing the Rise and as a fan when with Separatnal didn't even listen to the older stuff, and I followed them since then and still I really got inspired by them. And I think they opened the door for a lot of artists to be braver and to to yeah, to do some things out of the box.

14:37 And they got lots of shit for that, but to be honest, they also got almost most famous for that. So that is saying And here's what the way I look at it is, you as an artist need to evolve, like, yeah, exactly why of being an artist, I say this all the time is experimenting, you know, not lugging in a stupid form you love what it's supposed to be. But being creative. To me, being creative is doing that experimenting and going outside your normal every day what you would do. Yeah, I think so as well. I once compared it to cooking. For example, I think a great cook it's not somebody who cooks the Samuel over and over again, but who will try new spices in between. And that's what makes dishes very very cool or very very bad.

15:26 That's always the risk. How you find no experiment, you know. And I remember I've said this a few times in their reviews recently. I remember when I started playing guitar as a kid and my dad saying to me, you better give that up because you suck. I've talked about that stuff with many people something. Yeah, And what I was doing he didn't understand is I was just sitting there because I didn't know how to play yet, so I wanted to see what kind of sounds I could make, so fermenting and kind of try and find out. And to me, I think that's how you learn. It's like figuring things out. And yeah, like you said, you could try something and it may be terrible, but if you don't try, you don't know what you could come up with. And sometimes the best riffs and the best lyrics come from mistakes, you know, from permount and the mistakes that happened, you know.

16:27 Mm hmmmm hmm. I also like also with this album, I haven't received a bunch of feedback yet because it's not out, but it's always a bit scary because you don't know what you cooked up in your kitchen. Maybe that day you're very like happy about it and excited, You're like yeah, and the next day you taste it, you're like, what the hell was up with me there? And that's the same with this album because it was created in a in a mess like time mess. I was under much pressure, but I just kind of threw everything out ahead in my hat. There was not much time to change things. To be honest, they have to be Yeah, they had to stay like this because of time issues, and it is kind of risky to try out things while having a time limit.

17:10 Yea. But I didn't want to just be safe and write save songs because that is just not that's just not what I want to be, what we like, and that's some of our future policy is about. And yeah, I always take a risk rather than doing boring stuff. And with this album, I had a few moments when I was like was that too much? Also just today, just today, this night, I received the final we received the final music video that we've shot, and it was one of these moments again where I looked at it and I was like I love it and I hate it. It's such a such a weird feeling. It's like it's way too much, but I love it, and everyone might hate it, and I wonder when the moment will happen when everyone will be like, what the hell are you creating? Like why are you doing this? It's it's not cool, And I think that's just the risk you take for.

18:00 And either that or like all artists, you're your own worst critic and then you look at things that nobody will even notice. Also that that's true. I've struggled with that as well, especially like performance wise, but I try. I once learned or heard the great saying that you are either the creator or the editor, and the editor is the person I will correct everything. And I do that with songwriting because I noticed and learned that you have to get everything out when you want to be creative. There are no limits and there's no judgment. Also with learning guitar or anything, there's no judgment in that zone, and that's I think when you create the best things. And I always really really try to let that creator out of me as much as I can, and then later on activate that editor. And my editor is quite loud and strict, and we'll be like, what the hell's this? This all sucks, But still I think the balance of both of it is very important because I feel like many people you're.

19:00 On You're so on point with that because like, okay, you're gonna laugh at this. I have one song that I wrote and I collabed with two of my friends and I went to my Initially I went to my friend. I'm a I'm also like a speaker and published author, so I came to him with this song. It wasn't a song, it was a book. Okay, oh wow, because I'm like being a book author. I'm like writing this book and like you said, I'm just putting everything out that's in my head. And he just looked at He's like, what the hell is this? We need to like shortness. So he starts, it's so funny, you could probably relate to this. He starts saying, what can we take out of there? Well? Nothing, it's all important.

19:49 Yeah, it's like the people. You're like the creator and the editor as people. Yeah, and so he's like trying to take stuff out. He's like, well how about this, No, that's important, And eventually I just had to let go and Okay, you do your thing and you make it into a song. Oh yeah, and that's what ended up happening, But first I was like, no, we can't take that out. No, we can't even take one word out. Yeah. I kind of relate to that a lot, because I think you do have to have this balance inside of you and they both have to work together. And when we're in the studio, that's when the producers will join, of course and tell what they think. And they had their moments when they were like what is this? What have you done there? And then I will like talk a lot about them, like, oh, this has to sound like this and this is very important. We cannot take this out and they're like, well, isn't that necessary because it doesn't sound cool at all, and we still want to make a cool sounding song, you know. And there are discussions like that. But we got to learn how to work with each other and trust each other because we've been working three albums with the same producers now, so you kind of get to know each other and learn to trust each other. Let go. So they learned that, Okay, maybe if Maria has a vocal idea, we trust her because it worked well, and I trust them when they tell me this does not work, like, not at all, not even if I think it's very very important. There has to be like a middle way where both people both people are happy.

21:19 Yeah, totally, And I have to say, I think one of the most important things I got out of what you did with this album was Okay, so you are an ultimate metal badass because you sang this entire album with a route infection, Like whoah does that and do that? Well, I don't think I'm that badass for never thank you. The worst thing was that I had the surgery in December, on December thirty, so one day before New Year's Eve, so my jaw was like locked for weeks, and right after that, I got the root Kundel infection, so I was non stop having pain and being on antibiotics while being mentally very very on my limits because we just finished our headline tour where I had like vocal issues, mental health issues, and it all came at once, as it always does in life, of course always there's no other way around, and so we had to delay the entire studio stay and it was all just so stressful and it's yeah, it was just very stressful, but I just had to go through that. You have to push through if you really want something, and I'm so happy it worked. I'm very happy it worked. I was like praying, like please, can I please move again? And yeah, that was a pain.

22:45 Well, I have total respect for you for that, because I'll tell you a funny story. I was going to cover a festival near home one day and I had to get a dentists first because I had a problem with one of my teeth. And the dentist says, Okay, we're gonna have to pull the tooth. Oh like, well, how long does it take because I have to be over at the fair grounds in like forty five minutes. Oh my god, Like no, yeah, that's not gonna happen. I'm like, so, I said, you're ready for this. I went, how about if we didn't use any novacane or anything. He goes, well, then you can get it done in forty five minutes. But you're not gonna want to do that, and I'm like, oh my god, I did. I was like, do it. I was like, now, you're like immortal, and so here's the funniest part. Okay, he did pull it.

23:41 I was okay, and he's like, here here's some tiling all three for when you know you start feeling it I'm like, I don't need that. He's like, take it. If you don't take it, you don't take it, but take it with you. You're gonna need it. And so I went out to the car and now it's like fifteen minutes after and it hit me before I even drove off. It hit me, and I wanted to freaking die. Yeah, I can absolutely right, And. I popped those tiny and oles real quick. Oh my god. Yeah, it was actually I cannot understand how that would hurt because I didn't know how much teeth can hurt. I was absolutely underestimating that because it was happening on tour already. It was moving a tiny bit and my my wisdom, teeth are so crooked, like they go. I don't know, because for me, the pain was way worse before the surgery because it was pushing against my tooth like my other tooth, and it was hitting a nerve, so my entire half of the face it was like it was like instantly, like every second running against the wall with as much speed as I could and I couldn't take it, like I had to have ice cubes every second. And then when I went to the emergency thing, I was like please can you

25:12 just pull it out? No, nothing, like, I don't care, just do it with your hands. I'm going to do it myself. I was ready to get this, like I was on my limits, I think, don't I didn't even ever have that much pain, really, and I've had some pain, but this was very intense and I hated it. And I still have to get three removed. But I'm not scared because I think it was the worst when it got infected, Like, yeah, I couldn't eat for a week before and then not. Oh that was And that's why I think you're bad ass, because to sing like that, like what you have to do to sing, would make it even worse. Yeah, it was mostly the jaw that afterwards made some issues because your jaw will close up when it feels like something is wrong. And I could like do this and you for singing, you have to go, like really, but I'm happy.

26:02 Yeah. I had to. We had to. We had to watch out. In the first week, we were like, so we only do the most important things, guitars, everything first. We're going to finish everything that's not singing first, so I have more time to heal and the antibiotics to work and that way it worked, but I had to take some breaks in between cool my Jahn and yeah. Well it was definitely worthwhile because everything I've heard on this new record is absolutely amazing and everybody has to check it out. Distortion. I love the name of it too because it just says metal right there. It does. And uh, why don't you tell everybody how they can reach out to you guys on socials on the web, how they can you know, get the new album, save it, buy your merch Wait, let me turn the right way, buy your merch in your merch store.

26:58 Yeah, all that stuff we do. We have our own merch stores. Well it's futurepalast dot com. And yeah, there's gonna be a new single out next week, so I'm very excited for that and go see us live also hopefully also when we come over, which is maybe just a question of time. Nice. Yeah, pre order now, you can already pre order it? And where can they pre order it? Can they preorder it on your site? Do they go your socials? What? You can go to our socials or Instagram And we do have a link tree there which you can click on and there are many different options. You can also get tickets everything and there's also one pre order button. I think that's easiest. Or you go on our website Futurepalas dot com, futureminus Palas dot com and then you can check stuff out that would be great to call us TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, all that stuff.

27:51 I think a lot of people relate to your music because all the subjects you're talking about from anywhere from ADHD to depression to narcissism, all things that are so rampant in the world right now, even in our own presidential election over here. Absolutely, yes, you. Know, and so man, your music kind of came at a better time because this whole world needs some healing for sure. Yes, I'm actually surprised because you always write songs earlier, and especially for example, the Echoes of Disparity, I think is even more needed than it was before because it gets worse and worse everywhere, and this message needs to be spread. And also the one song they take what they want exactly about narcissism, about distorted that's where it comes from, a distorted mind of someone who's obsessed with power, and yeah, all that stuff. So I think it is very needed as well, and I'm very happy about the timing for it to be released, and I hope it might reach some people.

28:53 And what a great message for women too, because where I live in Florida, I think some of the women are insane because they all love the red guy. Oh oh no, yeah. Yeah, And I'm like, how do you how like like they like worship him like a cult, and some of them are against somebody else who they should be for. That is the same. Actually, in Germany, we do have a party that is also partly trying to make women rights go again, like leave again. They want to ban abortion, they want they want the ideal world back that's been in like nineteen not sixties, about that when the women couldn't work and all that stuff and or just the man does it and the woman's only job is to get pregnant and get children. And that party in Germany had many, many, many increases of votes in the recent votes.

29:52 And I'm very happy, and I say that on every stage, right, I prefer saying that song that it is a very current topic because we received some comments on the video like what the hell is she complaining about? She has all the rights and all the stuff. Also, just because I have rights doesn't mean that the entire world is equal, and it is always the world can always change, and there's always people with different opinions than you. So it is important to support that and to speak out and explain to people why that would be shit for women, for example, why it's not good for them. And I think, I don't understand women that vote for these kind of parties and. It blows my mind, Like I get like some of these women I know here in Florida, the stuff they say, I'm just like that is the weirdest thing that you would be talking that way as a woman.

30:47 Yeah, I don't got it. Maybe there's all some distorted stuff going on in their mind, because that's what I say with this album. Distortion comes from mental illness usually and they have not really been in that topic in your life much and just push it away. You will never understand what is real, What are your real thoughts, and what are the distorted thoughts? And lots of thoughts and opinions are not your own, but there maybe from someone else you picked up, or because maybe you're likable to be manipulated, or because of some distorted things in your brain that you don't understand, maybe some fears you don't understand or it could be so much like when I do have depression, there are like the thoughts I have are not the reality, and that's what I want people to understand with this album. Also that a lot of thoughts you have don't have to be the reality and don't have to be true. And the more reflected you are as a person and question yourself, I think, the better decisions you make because you always have to stay open minded and question yourself and talk to each other.

31:50 And I think the worst thing that's happening in the world is when people stop talking and just stay on their sides and think they are right and the other people aren't. I hate that. I don't like being labeled at something, and I don't like that I have to be put in that box. And we're falling for the oldest trick in the book, divide and conquer. Like like, I think, the only way you could even know your own side, it's also studying the other side. You can't just listen to one side of things and really to me form a fair opinion. So if somebody says to me they evaluate both sides and they still have this opinion, okay, then at least you made an evaluation based on your life and not based on just only listening to one side.

32:38 Absolutely, you always have to question yourself, why do I want something? What's the real reason for that? And oftentimes you can take that phrase for your life. Oftentimes you don't really want something. There's many things that influence that. Oftentimes it's fear. Fears, I think the biggest manipulator of us, of everyone, and I think almost yeah, and I think a lot of maybe almost all wrong decisions we do are made out of fear and oftentimes a distorted fear that is not even real. So when you go back to history, you know, as you said, you're you're you're Jew. And also in history, stupid ass people thought like, oh they bring like the illness and know they were cleaner than you. Smart hat you know. But that with with the past. I don't even know what it's called in English, but it's also fear once again, and the fear of the different, and fear is just so stupid. I mean, it does have relevance to survive and stuff like that, but I think fear is triggered too easily and distorted.

33:47 How dictators influence people by using fear. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, because fear is so easy as as just as I said, to manipulate people. And I think those people, those dictator are more fearful than anybody because they have the fear of not having the power. Absolutely, because they feel like they're no one without the power. And I think, yeah, that is a huge topic. That's also what that one song they take what they want is what it's about. I take what I want and not what I need, And that's that's exactly what it is, like, why would you take more than you need? And why would you make people suffer for something that's in your mind that's not even important. That's yeah, it is so weird to me that people can think that way. But I think, once again, it must be some the reason must be some distorted mental illness thing that they cannot reflect or don't want to reflect.

34:42 And that's what people appeal to to try to get them to think that way. They like the narcissist. What's the narcissist too? It's fine your weaknesses and exploit them, you know, and that that's the point. So I mean, but thankfully, you know, people say, well, artists should just stick to music, and I totally disagree. Thank god we have people like you that are spreading a positive message or using that stage and using that music to spread a positive message so that we could change this world for the better. And I don't know why why people think artists aren't entitled to their own feelings and opinions either.

35:27 Yeah, you know, I think isn't that exactly what art is about. It's exactly about talking about your emotions, and of course your emotions are influenced by the world you live in. I mean, I think that just makes sense. You cannot even really divide that. It doesn't really work. It just depends on how you present it and how you how you present it. I think every art has some influence of that, it's just not as obvious for everyone. That's right. Well, thank you for making this album and all kinds of great met music. And everybody's got to go out and check out the new music, check out all your merch because it's the only way you guys survive is merch nowadays. And that's why I have it back there. Thanks so everybody can go check it out.

36:14 And thank you for being on the Adventures of Pipe Man. Thank you, it was very nice talking to you. Thank you for listening to the adventures of Pipemin on w for Cui Radio.