PipemanRadio Interviews Ethereal Void
On this episode of the Adventures of Pipeman, Voiicide from the band Ethereal Void talks about their music with Pipeman. Ethereal Void's music is dark and about entropy and the end of everything. While some people label their music as progressive...
RSS Feed On this episode of the Adventures of Pipeman, Voiicide from the band Ethereal Void talks about their music with Pipeman. Ethereal Void's music is dark and about entropy and the end of everything. While some people label their music as progressive death metal, Voiicide says that they play groovy death metal. They are not like other death metal bands that sound the same. Instead, they have their unique sound with a flow to their songs. The musicianship and the vocals give the band its unique identity. The conversation then shifts to the music industry and the difficulties that musicians face. Voiicide talks about how the industry has become more of a social media game, and musicians are expected to have a large following on social media. However, building a following is not easy, especially for bands that are just starting. Voiicide also talks about the importance of having a good team, including a good manager and booking agent, to help musicians navigate the industry. Pipeman and Voiicide also discuss the importance of playing live shows, as that is where bands make most of their money. With the pandemic, live shows have been cancelled or postponed, which has affected many musicians' incomes. Voiicide talks about how they have been dealing with the pandemic and the impact it has had on the band. He also talks about how they have been using this time to work on new music and improve their skills. Ethereal Void have Facebook page although they don’t do much posting. If you want to keep up with what they’re putting out you should check out Abstracted Records, which is where you can find the CD God’s of the Dead World Pipeman gives a teaser about the brand new single from the band called Pyschosomatic. He also brings up his dislike for putting heavy music into boxes of Sub-Genres, although Voyucide does like the enjoy of different sub-genres, and discusses how fans describe them as progressive metal. He just considers them to be groovy death metal. He then goes into detail about the subject matter of their music, how it involves entropy and the literal end of everything, which is different than traditional death metal which involves general undertones dealing with death. Pipeman talks about how all death metal bands sound exactly the same. When he listens to the genre he wants to be able to know what band he is listening by hearing it. Ethereal void plays with two amazing and talented guitarists, and they aren't a fan of creating a lot of backing tracks on the computer because it is hard to re-create that in a live show. Voyucide also discusses how much easier it is to play as a three piece band as opposed to having 8 or 9 members like slipknot. In his opinion, the less input and influences you have to pull from the better the fininshed product will be. Discussing how sometimes egos can get in the way. If you have a lot of strong personalities in a band it would either be a huge cluster fuck or nothing would ever get done due to the clashing of personalities. Discussing the opinion that if Dave Mustaine had stayed in Megadeth that nothing would have gotten done and that no one would have ever heard of them due to having so much ego in the room. Rush was a great example of an amazing three piece band that they couldn't see being in any other band. The amount of mutual respect they have for each other really shows in the music that they record.
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0:00 Hey, you love them too? Sure, I'm come from fore Wow. You wake up America. It's time for the Adventures of pipe Man on Wi fourcy dot com. West pom Beach is number one Internet radio station. Here's your host, the White Man jee to read free Soultiarchel dashes Bride. This moves the pipe Man here on the Adventures plate Man to be FORCY Radio, and I'm here with our next guest, who has some killer new music that you're gonna want to check out. So let's welcome to a show. Voice side. How are you? Oh, I'm doing pretty good. It seems like a nice morning to have yet to be outside. But yeah, well I'm in South Florida and topical of Florida. If I look to my right, it's black and raining, and I look to my left and it's sunny.
1:30 Okay, yeah, you kind of more or less you always get nice weather in terms of heat. But yeah, it's a nice clu sunny day up here. Yeah. So we have like really pun intended but we really have like some psycho weather here. I don't know if it's sucho somatic, but it's definitely psycho. I understand that reference. There you go and our audience will two in a second. So you have a new song that I was listening to it as absolutely badass called Psychosomatic Suicide, and I definitely love the name, and so we're going to talk about that, but let's talk about in general what Ethereal Void is all about. What you know, how you describe it as an artist. I hate how nowadays everybody likes a box artists into some like sub micro genre. It seems like every band has their own genre at this point. Yeah, yeah, I mean I can't say that I'm not one of those people, because I really like subgenres. But I have found some issues with so with Ethereal Void because when the promotion and everything started, a whole bunch of people who've you know, picked up the band and the album has labeled it as progressive metal, which are progressive deaths, which I don't personally get it. We basically just like we just play groovy death metal essentially, Like all of the songs are really hard hitting,
3:00 They've got a lot of a lot of groove to them. It's all about sort of entropy and darkness and the end of everything. Like I kind of describe it as like whereas normal death metal you've got, Like you know, lyrical themes will tend to be about torture and killing and stuff like that, about death very literally ours just pushes that to the conceptual maximum of like entropy, heat, death, like the end of literally everything. So that's sort of what we're about. I love it, And what I do love too is, first of all, yeah, you don't sound like every other death metal band. What I've found is there's a lot of death metal bands that they all sound exactly the same. And it's like, yep, I want to be able to know when I hear a band what band that is, you know, like they have their unique sound, and you guys definitely have that because I don't know if I we've gone progressive I think, but we're saying progressive because it's musicianship basically. It is the only reason they're saying that, you know, because definitely you have to death metal, but you have musicianship along within. That's I think what makes you unique, and not that all death metal isn't musicianship. It's the type of musicianship it has. You know, this flow to the song, you know, supposed to just complete brutality the whole time, right, Yeah, that definitely makes sense. That's
4:34 one of the biggest things in all of the projects that we work on is trying to find this voice where you hear one song and instantly you're like, oh, that's that's this band, right, And like the more influences you pull from, the harder it is to do that. So I'm glad that that was achieved. And yes, I definitely know what you're talking about as far as the slow in the musicianship. I work with two very talented guitarists, and I feel like Logan is very very like so he does all the rhythm guitars, and he writes most of it too, and he just has this very effortlessly clean style. Well, we're not going in on the computer and just like you know, absolutely like cutting the crap out of these takes to make like super mechanical sounding things like if it sounds super precise and robotic, that's just the way he played it, and like, I'm not really editing it at all. I love it because how you play that live when you know, I just don't get when bands like totally change your sound in the studio, Because how you played that live? Then yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, I guess to an extent, you just kind of hope that nobody will notice. Yeah, and I always I always noticed sure, Like you know, I rather hear a band sound raw in the studio as if they would live, then overproducing. Then when I'm listening to him live, I'm like, oh, that's horrible, you know, yeah, exactly. So what else also impresses me? And I've said this quite a
6:05 few times, and I don't know if it's like a geographic thing, but a three piece band always, to me sounds like they are have way more musicianship and way more depth than bands with more than three pieces. I'm just like always in awe of the great musicianship that you get a just a three piece and it's like, you listen to it, it's like, well, Slipma has nine people and they're making just as much of a depth of music as nine people are, right, Yeah, I feel in my personal experience. So the thing is, I'm not sure if you know, but I'm going to probably be referencing the band the Design Abstract a lot, because both me and Logan are also in that band, and it's definitely much more experimental and melodic. It's like all out like symphonic sci fi death metal, but it's gone through a ton of members. And what I found because I'm the kind of the main member of that band, whereas Logan is more the main etherial void. He's the one who writes all that stuff. It seems like the more members you have and the more diluded division gets if you allow all of those ideas, and like, if you're going to be adding a whole bunch of people of the band, you have to be sure that they fully fully understand the vision. Everyone needs to be on the exact same page.
7:28 Otherwise they're just going to be pulling different directions. And some bands can do that, and some bans can make it work where it's like, oh wow, this song sounds completely different. It's like, oh yeah, that one was the only song written by our bassis and we thought it was fun, and it's like, okay, but that's not going to have a distinct vision. So I've found it's best if you just keep the members to the people who fully understand the vision and they're all pull in the same way. I think that that's my best guess as to what that if that's phenomena is that makes so much sense, because it's true and everything in life is. And even if you run a business and you have a team, like there there's the people that shouldn't be on the team, you know, and then there's the people that all share that same vision of the business. I see it in my business, okay, like running radio stations. I deal with so many different personalities, as you can tell. And you know, it's just sometimes there's too much friction from too many opinions, right, yeah, exactly, and yeah, and then that's how you get you know, when you get like big corporate boardroom decisions, until you get companies making things that seem like absolutely batshit decisions because it's just like, yeah, it's a whole boardroom full of people and nobody has a distinct vision and everyone's got to fight it out, and so they stand down all the edges until the finished result is just absolutely useless. So you know what's funny about that? It meant what's funny about that? As remind me? Okay, so I'm a you,
9:00 and there's a joke when it comes to like boards of synagogues and you have all these people on the board, and you have all these people on the board and it's like put fifty Jews in a room and you'll have fifty different opinions, right, Yeah, and yeah, I think that's true of just of life in general. So that's yeah. For most of the projects that Mean Logan work on, we do try to keep it basically just to the ones that we think will fit the division for the particular sound. And it's been the worst with the Design Abstract because that's been as much as seven members, but has always come back to just me and him. So it's a two piece. It's seemingly permanently, but we'll see we might have Yeah, it hasn't been announced yet, but a nemesis from Etherial Void might actually join the Design Abstract as Roll, so it'll just be the same same members for both bands, just because we're on the same page with him. He definitely clicks with us. See, And that's so important too, because like how many bands can you tell when you go to one there's shows and you can tell there's friction between the members that they're just up there like going through the motions, doing their job because they're not really brothers anymore, you know, like they may have been at one point in time, and it is because you have way too many personalities. Sometimes a band that you know, that's what causes us the conflict and like you said, vision or or just even ideas of where things can go. And sometimes they do it right, where
10:31 they basically blend you know, the different members like genre likes and then create their unique sound from that. Or you hear the chaos of everybody being on different page and it's like, well what is that? Yeah, exactly, And that's the thing is like for a lot of bands or a lot of musicians, I guess I should say, if they just want to bring to the table their specific craft, right, You've got a really good lead guitarist and he is just going to do his thing and it's going to be in his own style, and that music is going to be shaped by that. That's totally fine. The issue is more when you bring together people who will want either they're their distinct genre simply doesn't fit the vision of the band and so you're pulling a different direction, like we said. Or there are people like me and Logan who take on the role of basically everything writing wise, like me and Logan will both sit down on our own and write full songs and then bring it to the band, and then the other person will tweak it type of thing. So for Gods of a Dead World, I think, well, all of those songs were definitely written by Logan and had minimal structure input from me unless I would put the vocals a certain way, and then if I needed something tweaked, I might change a risk here and there and I put the bass on it. But sometimes it'll be the other way.
11:58 Sometimes all sketch up a song and I'll bring it to him and we'll see how that goes. But you get too many people like that who want to do everything, which again isn't bad, but I think that's also where complications would happen, because it's a really slim chance that a whole bunch of people are just going to be able to, you know, contribute to an album in their own voice that sounds like a coherent work, no doubt, and too much ego to make chiefs and not enough Indians. I think Metallica is a perfect example that, going back to the very beginning, Like if Dave Mustains stayed in Metallica, I don't think we would know Metallica today like we do. And because there was too much ego there between James, Lars and Dave and then different things coming into the pot. And you can tell by the difference between Metallica and meg and Megadeth that Dave Mustain's vision of music is different than James and Lars. Yeah, exactly. It's a yeah.
13:07 Having both of those creative minds in one band, it would have either been an absolute pluster fuck musically or nothing would have got done. I feel, yeah, yeah, a bunch of arguing that's what you done exactly, you know. So I think I think that is I think we kind of keyed in on the answer of why three piece bands are so great, Like I think of it this way. Okay, I look at Rush. I can't imagine any of those three in Rush being in any other band besides Rush, Like it just doesn't even like enter my mind. They seem like one unit instead of individuals. Yeah, that's absolutely true. And that's just an excessive amount of talent on everybody's part as well and respect respect for each other talents.
14:00 Like, there's a difference between people are very talented and have a lot of ego going on because there's headbutting or respect of having so much talent that it actually, you know, is complimentary. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, and that even comes through in their music. I would say, I think that's a good example. And that's why I hear in you when you're talking about Logan and you, It's like I can hear the respect in not only the talent and the musicianship, but the roles, and I think that's extremely important. Oh yeah, yeah, like I've said it, Like, you know, if I never met Logan, none of this, not even materials Void, but the vast majority of the music that we do together, like it just wouldn't exist. So yeah, I definitely, Yeah, I owe a lot to Logan either. Fantastic guitarists, and yeah, it's we're just really lucky that we kind of met up and we did have the same vision.
14:58 Like I said, originally it was for the design Abstract, which is a really really niche sort of like picture for a band. But then Ethereal Void was interesting because I wanted to just start playing kind of just more straightforward, Like I was listening to a lot of blood Bath and I was just like, hey, can we just write really straight forward, just like crushing brutal death metal with none of the because design abstract has like the orchestra, sins, clean vocals, all this stuff, and I'm like, none of that, none of that, just death metal. But then he album won, which is called Disciples of the Void. He pitched a couple of songs and I was like, oh wow, this is like this is really cool because me and him have different styles of like groove writing. His is very fluid and feels very I don't know. You listen to one of the breakdowns of the Risk that he wrote, and it just sounds like it has always been that way, if that makes sense, Like Seeds of Hatred too, that's like the one single that came out like that that main verse groups.
16:00 It's just it just works so well. And when I write groups typically they sound a lot harsher and more like, I don't know how to describe it. I write like I was a percussionist, so I write patterns that are like mentally difficulty. They more get into the design. I was talking. All write these crazy breakdowns, but they're like all not syncopated and gentie, but just they start and stop at really weird places. That kind of sounds the computers wrote it. So as soon as he pitched me that stuff. I was like, okay, great, but at the time he wasn't super super in team with the style of definitely I wanted to write. So those first two albums were a lot of back and forth where he would write some risks and then I would go, ah, this isn't really and so I'd punch in a risk, I'd replace it, and we go back and forth, and those two we're basically like fifty fifty on who was writing the guitar parts and actually disciples I even recorded half the guitar parts. But for God's like this, this current album, it was just now that was all him.
17:03 Is great. I'm just like, yeah, I love it. It's really cool sending stuff. I love hearing that. Like the admiration and respect that you have for your bandmate. That says it all right there, Let's tell everybody how everybody else can have admiration for you guys, and connect with you on socials. Check out your music, buy merch just everything, website, socials, all that stuff gotcha all right, so I will push We did do a pretty short run of CDs for Gods of the Dead World that's on the band camp, which is the Abstracted Records band Camp. That's the the labeled type thing that me and Logan run. It's not really a label.
17:45 It's basically just like our collaborative music efforts all put in one spot. So anything on Obstructive Records is either me or Logan or both. And if you look up Abstractive Records, the CD for Gods of the Dead World will be there once it's out if you avoid. Also has a Facebook page, but that's about it, and you can stream it on all the major streaming platforms as well, so all the normal spots. We don't do a ton of social media. If you want to follow closer with a whole bunch of projects that me and Logan do, it's all under Obstructed Records. All right, nice, and do you have a final words for our listeners? Thanks so much for checking out the album. Yeah, we weren't really sure how it would how it would go, having a whole promotional cycle and everything.
18:29 So if it's clicking with people and they like that sort of sound, it is definitely niche and specific, but we're really glad. We're we're hoping people will like it. I think they will. I think it's badass. Everybody should definitely check it out for sure. I Also my last comment is I want to say that I love the intro on your Facebook page. It immediately reminded me of Star Trekkay. It says three piece death metal band from beyond the reach of time or space. Oh yes, I forgot. See that's how I should have introduced us. I forgot that I wrote that. Yeah, that's a good introduction. I love it. Like, as soon as I saw that, like that to me described your music. I like, I heard the music first and then I read that, and I was like, man, web, perfect description. I love it. Excellent. I'm glad. Well, thanks for the great music, and thanks for being on the Adventures of pight Man. All right, yeah, no problem. Thank thank you for having me. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pint Man on w fur CUI Radio