PipemanRadio Interviews Bat Allison at Rocklahoma 2023

0:04 Hey, you love them too? Sure on for se Wow, wake up America, It's time for the Adventures of pipe Man on w for cy dot com West pomp Beats, his number one internet radio station. Here's your host, the pipe Man. You show us your assist. This is pipe Man here on the Adventures pike Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here with Will net All. I'm on from Bot Allison, R. J.

0:56 Houston and the Grants Turner the Grant Touring. Love it and listen. I got a funny story about that. Okay, about names, about names. So Christine up there, she came up and she was I was busy doing something. She was asking me about you, and she's like, what what's her name? Is it Allison? And I'm like yeah. And after she walked away, I was like, oh, I wasn't really bad Dutchon and I went up, Actually, no, it's not. That's actually his name.

1:38 That's all right. You know I interviewed a band at Bloodstock that his first name was Lori. Yeah. Yeah, So you know, there you go. There's too many Karen's. Okay, there's just too many Karen's nowadays. Okay, there's shit you guys should write a song about Karen's that would be a such a punk song. Yeah, I like it it. Okay, you're giving me. You gave me another song idea that, even in death, give me two minutes all write that one. Okay, he's gonna have me working in between interviews. Yeah, so we get an album done quick. I told her we need to, for even in death, write a song that says what did I say? Sewn Nations un Nations? We had a who the fuck is Grant Turner fest n the one and only, Yeah, answer the Grant Turner here on the Adventures of pipe Man a W four c Y radio. Oh Man. So I have to say I was telling him when I was walking over here that there was one song that you played that had a total exploited vibe, like a total you know, the exploited, like the iconic punk. And I was like, wow, I even turned to Anthea. I'm like, that's kind of exploited by it.

3:06 That's pretty cool. And then you mentioned one of the songs. I forget which one he said and mentioned. We didn't mention the name. He just went doood doodoo whatever it was. I'm like that one too. You remember when one when we were talking about it. Yeah, love hate. Oh I love love hate. Yeah, that was a total old school punk vibe too. But then he said it's political. They said it like it had like a Rush influence, and then when he said down, I'm like, holy shit, it is Rush. So there you gotta love Getty. Oh yeah, totally Listen. There isn't a genre out there that should not be influenced by Rush. Like when some of the greatest musicians ever, I don't care what anybody says. Yeah, you can't go wrong with Rush. Mean, it's like Aerling did do was amazing. How are you doing that thing?

3:58 Yeah she's followed. Yeah that's better. I'm trying to follow her in II know, right, so go on, what would you follow in the Bounty ball? So yeah? Yeah, So Rush is awesome, amazing. I mean, they're all had their degrees in music and you cannot not like them. Their ideas or thoughts beautiful. And when you can have three this is what always amazes me. Bands with three members are always more powerful than the bigger bands, Like they make more sound than like Slip not as nine members. It blows my mind. That includes you, guys, because you're you just to slip Knot what. I fucking love that, right, right?

4:43 And you know what he reminds me of slip knot a few minutes ago when he was talking about the bouncy ball, because I remember it's going way back. I put this brand new Pennium Gateway computer, the first, the first Pennium ever. It had a screen saver which was his lamb bouncing, and I sink it with wait and Bleed, and so that's like forever in my mind, Like anytime I think of the bouncing sheep, like you're trying to fall asleep, it's wait and bleed you an lee, right exactly. But I do like, I don't fall asleep to like mellow music because that's like it's like annoying me. I fall asleep to the fastest, heaviest ship in their heads. So it's like, yep, there you go. That's soothing to me, you know. Okay. We have a puppy, well not really puppy, she's like six now, but she's a puppy. She was crazy, so more hyper than meat were him together. And the only way I would get her to calm down is I'd play harkworek punk. She would like chill out and relax or play with her toy, or she'd let me cook, you know, or whatever I was doing. Yeah, I put on like Harkwork Punk and she was like, okay, say that.

6:01 So how did it feel being out here at Rock Clahoma rocking out? Man, fucking amazing? Yes? Yes, oh my gosh. And I didn't expect. I knew you were doing guitar giveaway. I didn't think you were gonna jump off some stage and just hand it to somebody. That blew my mind. That's what I want to do. Like I've always seen like guitar giveaways, but it's like some bullshit it you have to pay for meat and green and blah blah blah, and you know you probably spent more on it than the guitar. And uh, the way you did that's the coolest way today. Man, I appreciate that. You know. Man, when I was a kid and still today, you know, airbody's poor. You know, we're all trying to make hands and meat. Yeah. You know, I'm gonna go to Oklahoma. Man's my first time. It's gonna be cool.

6:48 You know, I'm a smashing guitar. You know, I wait a minute, when I was a kid, I was watching smash guitars and I go, shit, give it to me, man, right, my guitar has no strings, ain't got a namp. You know, it's like some to that effects. I thought, you know, I'm not gonna smash it. I almost see who's rocking out out there, and I'm to give him a guitar. There you go. So I did, and I saw the one person just every song they were rocking out. So to describe the look on her face when you handed that guitar to her, all her eyes has got big jaw dropped, like oh my god, because I went back and forth in front of the stands a little bit in front of you know, the wall, and I just didn't the song and Dad and I kind of hung that drop real slow, and then handed to in her eyes like oh my god, is this real? You can see right? Yeah, right, yes, right off. Because when I saw you get off the stage, I'm like, oh that's cool. He's gonna, you know, just go around the crowd and play. And I was like, holy shit, he just handed her a guitar. And you're right though, because I've even seen bands that they smashed her guitar and then they hand it to somebody and like, fuck, you gave me a broken guitar, thank you. Not gonna carrying this shit around right, And I can't even play it. Yeah, and even if I fix it, it won't be as good as the original, because I've done that before too, because the other guitar I used to bring is my I love Shanker, So I got my Michael Shanker guitar.

8:03 Nice. His brother is when I really went after and then went after. But I like him. You know, he's like trying to get his chrism on stage, you know whatever. So one day when my birthday party were on stage and having a good old time, man, I was feeling the vibes. Everybody was happy and I just do it nice. But you forgot the best part. What were we doing the next week? I don't know what was I doing fixing it in the studio trying to use that guitar? Oh yeah, yeah, I was trying to record, yeah, if it wouldn't stand tune and back and the neck was cracked. So I was like, so if you can't afford guitar, is, don't be throwing him. Yeah, there's the lesson. The cool thing about that show was his birthday and he was feeling very good, and so he did the whole like throw the guitar up. Me and Grant looked at each other and our jaw dropped, and then Grant very coolly. Yeah. I wasn't gonna be out done. I wasn't gona be left out. But fortunately for drums, it's hard to break drums. It's like really hard to break drums. So you can just like take one foot kick that ship down and uh yeah, so I joined the party. There you go. Keith Moon revisited, but he did it in such a cool way. He just looked. We both went.

9:13 I bet he went time ticket time he is knocked over real slow and general whoop. There you go, bitches. All right, So I got a trip a drummer trivia question now that I brought up Keith Moon. You know who Keith Moon is, right, Yes, I hope. So what is one of the most famous things he used to do back in the day that you wouldn't catch any other drummer doing. I mean everything, right, Well that's pretty much true. Yeah, destroying the hotel rooms and I know loading is it would be cool to do, but I mean there's no way we could do it like loading is kicked drum full of explosives setting that that was really cool. Yeah, well, I don't know what the story I heard. I don't know if it's true. Wasn't there that I think it was Pete Townsend took a ship on his drum set and Keith moonated like that.

10:18 They had they had Alice Cooper, you know, he did the same thing, supposedly, Alice Cooper the same thing, supposedbly so you got to be there to know it. Well, you know, just recently it was revealed that Ozzy didn't really piss on the Alamo. No he did, and the and the and the bat thing, well, he's chocolate. And he got one by accident. That was real because yeah, somebody threw it on stage. It was it was plat, a rubber bat. It was he thought it was a rubber bat or something. And that was because they threw some out there as a prop and then someone threw a real one. He got a by accident, yep, yep. That was pretty good. And then with others there's another crazy one I was thinking of. There's so many crazy ones that have happened. Have you watched or do you watch a jack in ozz I used to watch. I didn't know it's still on. I used to watch. It's old. Yeah, I don't think it's we just started. That's where I knew about the Alamo thing, because they actually exonerated him. Yeah. Did you see that episode where he was like nervous to go back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it turns out it turned out he could have been going there all these years. Yes, yes, yeah, it right. And we're from San Antonio, so well listen. When you have a band like Motley Crude that says Ozzy's fucking crazy, it's a little bit greater. They couldn't even crazy. They couldn't keep up with him.

11:46 Idiot blast oh man, I big Randy Rhodes fans cutting off the eyebrows and unfortunately know Randy tried to come back with it, you know, get him back, you know, and hit his bus with his playing by accident. No recipes, Randy. So, Ozzie, if you're listening, we would love to meet you and jam out with you, and we promise lots of ice cream. And he's been writing a lot of songs with a lot of different artists lately, so he needs I'm playing out there. He needs to raise a song with bad Alison, yam, there you go, love it? And yeah, I was at I saw Randy live and right before he died, I saw in one year Randy, Pat Travers and Brad Gillis with Ozzie because you know what happened like after Randy died, Pat Travers filled in for a couple of shows and then it was Brad Gillis. M that's a great one. There you go. But just horsing around, you know, just playing jokes, no go, Yeah, everybody safe out there, have good jokes. Yeah, that's right. I can't do that stuff any now. So tell our listeners who have not heard you before why they should listen to you, and kind of describe what they would experience from Bad Alice.

13:05 What's your experience I believe from me is you want to hear the same song every time you can hear songs that come from the heart, come from the soul. Every day isn't the same, So every song shouldn't be the same. Every emotions different. So every song cares an emotion and thought and we'll keep carrying that on each each album. Yeah, and our stories, I mean, we keep it real like our stories are sometimes hidden in a pretty sounding song. But that's a lot of deep stuff. You know. We go into domestic abuse, we go into wow, say of the world, but not love songs. Yes, okay, so I don't know how to write a love song. Is so I wrote a stupid love song when you were saying that. I always feel real bad for Anthony because I'm like, if she can't write a love song, oh my god. Oh no, I mean I told him I love him beyond. But actually, okay, this is kind of funny though, because I read Ember. We first started, he kept telling me, you know, you should maybe consider doing a pop punk song, and I considered it and it just didn't come, you know. And so one day, okay, literally this is I think.

14:16 I don't know if I told you guys, this is how the song came. So we were getting ready. It was like a Saturday, We're gonna like go like to Blue Star Area hang out, getting ready, and I had this melody in my head and he's in the shower and I'm there with the dogs and they're staring at me, going entertain me. I'm like, okay, So I get my bass acoustic and I start playing the song. It just came out, and then I thinking of Anthony because we're gonna go hang out. I have a cool like date, you know, kind of thing afternoon, and I was like kind of mad at him because it sounded pop punk. I mean not that I love pop punk, don't get me wrong, but like, you tell me something and I will, it's gonna happen. It might just not happen in five seconds, give me like a month or so, but anyway, So then I was like, didn't want to write the stupid love song. It all became this, Yes, well see that's a punk song though, because how made punk songs are love songs that men come on? Then I like kind of funks. I play around the strings like playing. It's like, but I did write Spitfire for him, which is about lust. Well that's better. You know, if you gotta write a song, it should be about lost, not love.

15:31 Yes, and you had this other song that I think is gonna be like the next punk rock anthem. Can I want all three of you? Let's see if you can guess which one I think that is next. I like a stupid love song. It's got a hook, it's catchy. That is a good song. That's the one Bengo. Oh my god, I love playing that song. A It's the perfect live song, yeah, because it's just like and I saw the people out there in the ay, it's all sticking their middle finger up in the air. I love crowd participation songs either, like if you can sing with us, oh my god, I love that so much. But if not, if you could blick us off, I'm happy say there you go. It's about gettingr aggressions out. You know, people keep everything's pins up inside. So when you hear that song, that's what we're saying. This song, we're gonna do a little chant and you can chant with this or just yell and flip us off and just get all that aggression out and then then make your day positive after that. Just get it out. And there was somebody next to me that I overheard her telling somebody else, Oh, that's gonna be my new theme song. Oh cool, I like it. Right. Every band would love that one of their songs is somebody's theme song. Yes, you know exactly. So let's tell everybody how they reach out to you guys on socials on the web, your merch because you have cool ass merch. And the only way band survive

17:03 is with merch. So my listeners aren't allowed to listen to my show unless they buy merch. Awesome, So the best way to do it is go to bat Allison dot com and when you get on there, we have everything linked already. One stop shop Facebook, you can go to Instagram, you can go to Spotify, you can go to Amazon, you can click on the menu go to our purchasing our merch. So one stop shop and make it easy for you watch our videos. Love it. And also if you follow our socials, keep an eye out because we're gonna start like a separate group for diehard fans. And I think it's going to be called the Misfit Toys, so that might be coming soon. So funny you heard it first here on pipe Man Adventures with pipe Man. Actually that's so funny too, because I always refer to people that are my co hosts on my show.

17:52 They're from the Land of the Misfit Toys for sure. At that one baby doll die off up right, And I'm the I'm the King. I'm the king or god of the Land of Misfit Toys. I'm the I'm the misfit toys. God, so let's talk about battle scars. I love that I have a physical copy of music and from me. These kids nowadays, they don't know what they're missing. Man, artwork, experience a journey. You know. We were talking about Rush before. Oh yeah, Like to me, Temple Syrinx is like a journey. That's exactly what I was thinking of earlier. Oh my god, it's like one of my favorite Rush songs.

18:37 I'll turn it up really loud and I'll sing that fucking song because I can't even hear myself singing, you know, because I'm not Getty Lee exactly up to sing along with it. You're trying. Yeah, I think I sound good that I remember one time I thought I was sounding really good and then I was at like a theme park and I was doing Metallica song and I listened to the recording afterwards, I'm like, oh god, that's not what it sounded like to me. But as long as you're having that's right. You know, I could do the Slayer thing. But when it actually comes to actual singing, you know I could do that. Which, by way, what did you do before the interview? What what were you going to do in the interview. I said, you have to do that. Oh I want, I want you to actually do it. Oh happy, come, you gotta do it with me? Oh okay, okay, I gotta tell you funny though. So we got nominated for Radio WIGWAM Best Rock Group, No, Best hard Rock Group in the UK, and so we went, well, I, me and Anthony went because it was like in December and the prices were ridiculous and so I had points. I was like, we are not going to win, but let's go and network, let's go.

20:00 Yeah represent and we did. We had a blast. But right the there was some issue. I forgot, some kind of weird airline issue. It wasn't a normal delay, it was it was strange, and so we ended up getting there a day late. So we ended up our friends Sean and Vanessa's Sean from even Enough, and we were being very generous with the Guinness. By the way, we love Guinness too. If there's any endorsements out there, we would love Guinness. No, but no, So we're having we're having a lot of Guinness. And then I decide, okay, I want everybody to sit to sing it with me, and so Vanessa is like, I'm not gonna sing, and so she's like mouthing the words and she looks, you know, adorable, And so I told Sean, Okay, you're gonna sing and he was like okay. And so I told Vanessa okay, ready, three, two, one, happy come and then she like mind it and it was cool. And then I said Sean, you're supposed to sing, and he didn't. He's like, I'll do it, I'll do it. So the camera stayed on me and so it's I be calm, but it's Sean singing it, and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's hilarious. So that ended up on our social media. I love it. So if you want to hear Sean doing that, it was like in December, that's such a Sean thing to do. Fuck Shawn Nations hashtag fuck sewn Nations. Oh man, So yeah, do you want to say something? Oh my god, pipe man? Have you read our bio on

21:37 our website? I don't know. Tell me what? Tell me what I'm supposed to know? Right? Why don't you talk about the Grant's bio? Grant the wait, the Grant's bio. No. When I first joined the band, they were asking me, hey, write, write, a bio for yourself. Sorry, that's my Lynette voice. I do everybody's voice when they're not around, but hey, you're here, she goes, yeah, right right, a bio for the website. And I was like, okay, yeah, my actual like past and life experiences not super interesting, not fun, I mean really, So I basically took the plot line from the Drummer, from that thing you do the movie, and I inserted myself into that and said, like i'd been playing, I worked in my family's hardware hardware repair appliance store or something like that. And then I also played for a while and Captain Geech and the Shrimp track shooters out in LA until I finally came back. And long story short, they needed a drummer and I became the drummer. That was essentially my bio. Love it, Yeah, Now did they come after you for copying that? Actually? What I love the most is the fact that different places we've played, have you, they just take our bios and put them in places. So if you go on the rock Lahoma website and see our band on there, and you see our bios, yeah, my ridiculous story that I made up one day is on

23:11 the rock Klahoma website and I was laughing, so I love that. When I read his bio, I was like, what the fuck is this. I've never seen the movie. I had no fucking idea what he was talking about. And this went on for a good while, I mean eight months or so, and finally she was can do this? I said, what are the fuck you want to do? I was like, that's ridiculous, right, So then she goes and one day I said, watched the movie and click him out? What movie the Wonders? What's it called? The Thing You Do? The Thing You Do? And that was the name of the band, I guess. I watched it and I laughed my ass off. I was like, oh shit, I live under a rock right right. Me and Grant would make like different movie references and he would be like, I don't know what the fuck y'all are talking about, Like watch the fucking movie. So we had to get his girlfriend to make him watch the movie. And then he was like, oh that's funny, no snappy.

24:02 Yeah. You know what I would do is maybe do your updated bio and it just says the grand the grant from the oil state. There you go, So what else do we want? The listeners to know that we haven't covered al right, that they need to know about bat Allison. So we're working on album number two right now. We're actually recording stupid love song on Saturday, nice, so that's going to be really cool. And then we're we're writing new material for album number two because album number one just came out, so we need to get album number two recorded. So yeah, we got a lot going on, so follow us. And then we like throwing Easter eggs out there every once in a while. Oh so we were in New Orleans last week. We're playing a showcase out there, and I left little easter eggs. I'm gonna put on that probably Instagram or Facebook saying hey, if you find this sticker, and I put him in unusual spots, so if you find them, you're New Orleans, take a picture of your problem. You're going to get something from us, but I'll post where.

25:07 Like one of them is like on an old telephone, nice, like you know one of those pay phones, but of course it doesn't have like the receiver, it just has I'm like, I haven't seen one of these in ages, you know, like a real telephone payphone thing. Yeah, right, and a lot of them that you do. See there's no phone in there, just the metal box. It's like, why didn't you take the metal box away? Yeah? Yeah, so say that, Yeah right, we did. So what we did, it's for my Superman change we did right before Rocklahoma. We were dropping a new single a week, like every Thursday. I'm leading to it. So now it's back to the studio, right and record nice. Oh and by the way, you know, you know, notice that Superman doesn't change in phone booths anymore, or did you change it? Think about it? Think about the new Superman's You don't see phone booths like the old days where he went into phone booth and change.

26:14 Yeah right, I like that. Oh my uh so man, I'm so glad you were here at Rock Oklahoma because we've enjoyed fucking rocked this place than you know. We got the Who in here right now. They ain't got shit on you. You know. Of course people think it's the Keith Moon Who, But it's not that who. It's it's the Who who Who. You're right, the cool look behind you. They're in here. I wasn't kidding. They're over there, curious over there, over I saw more so, how did they say I'll be interviewing them later so you can come overwhelm interviewing them not while after or before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the thingy the thing. Yeah, nobody can see you doing that. You might have to describe what you're doing. Oh, nobody can see you doing this.

27:18 I love like that's one of the bands. I'm really into you right now. I love the I guess it's like the type etan monk. I'm seeing that, the throat singing, the deep. Yeah, so I I okay, soepa what I did so he can keep throat singing like I knew the throat sang, but I didn't know they deep. That might be againstman going and law a deep throat okay, r J's crying, oh man, But I love that, so so I decided. Okay. So I was on Spotify and I was listening to them, and I was like, okay, you know Spotify has lyrics, and I was like, okay, I'm gonna sing along to this song. Nice. It's in their language so I could understand it. Hello, yes, yeah, So I tried my best to like and to try to do this. I want to learn how to sing like that. I love I love the deep. I'm a bass player.

28:12 I love the deep sounds and the resonance and the So that could be your new song on the album Deep Throat with the Who and you could and you could like write the lyrics and use Google Translate translated into Mongolian and sing that I love it. I love it. Oh. Speaking of speaking of deep thoughts, have you seen have you? Oh? I would speak of deep Throat, not deep thoughts, But go on, have you seen gores and Instagram? Gores Instagram lately? I'm interviewing them today, So this is it. I need this information. It reminded me a little bit of do you remember Saturday Live Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy. Oh, it reminds me something a little bit like that, like a cross between that and like a haiku. It's just random. It's hilarious. It's so funny. Yeah.

29:03 I have a funny Guar story too. Just recently, So I was interviewing Guar at Download. Yeah Download, the plane lost all their constants and costumes and stuff. So instead of canceling the interview, Blowthar came into the press tent just as himself. Wow and no, but like that wasn't the first time I've seen what they actually look like. But it was so funny. Yeah, there was one time I interviewed them in the dressing room and they're like, yeah, you can't take any pictures because they're not dressing dressing their costumes. I'm like, yeah, I don't care, I won't take pictures.

29:47 But he came out. It was so funny, this whole huge press tent like it's download one of the biggest festivals in the world, Like the press tents like full. No one knew it was him. What was even better is that a photographer saying across from me, and during the interview, he saw this photographer he was hungry and he saw they had gummies and he goes, here, you give me gummies and was in told old blowthar voice, and the dude still didn't know. She didn't know. I was laughing my ass off that, like he even teased them and no cloth. That is hilarious, right. It made me like, stuff like that makes me think, you know, at fifty six years old, I could go get a mask, start a band, get big, and then take my mask off a go haha, fuckers, I'm old. Well, you know, not only that, the anonymity. Yes, that's kind of good job on that, good job on that, yeah, I know, because oh and an anemity. I mean, yeah, you are a you're a you're a screwed it up. So what were you saying before I so rudely interrupted, No, no, no, I was saying, that's awesome. That's awesome.

31:18 Like I think that that is like the best thing. Yeah, so I'm supposed to be wearing those two because speaking of which, like if you are hidden behind a mask, I love that because like you can just kind of like go with the flow. You don't have to worry about makeup or aging or I think God's terrible today. I think it's a good coping tool for people with stage fright. Oh yeah, yeah, you know, because like even I don't have stage fright, But even with me, when when I get on a mic, I'm just like I'm speaking to no one, you know. I Like, That's why I have no problem getting on the mic, because I just in my mind. I'm just speaking in my head, and that's why the fucked up ship comes out on the mic. Because the stuff I'll say on the mic I'll never say in real life. But now I'm just talking to myself. So all those fucked up thoughts are in your head, they just come out into the mic, you know. Like, so, yeah, I'm on stage fright. When I first started, I had stage fright. I mean I didn't play for years. I mean I just started playing it recently, about six or seven years ago maybe, And the first show I did, I'm a back turn. I started, Oh wow, I was just freaking out, and then I turned around.

32:36 I turned around, flips switched, and then boom, I chick off and I never looked back. But once it turned around, and soon as I turn around, all the people had a good time, laid kick went up and then that's all she wrote. Nice Now I love the stage. Yeah. So my head engineer he passed a few years ago, but he was in a metal band in the eighties and then he was in country rock duo and he had to He had been doing this for like fucking thirty years and he had the worst stage fright. So before a gig like he would pay play this one bar, Me and him would go to the bar down the street to pregame so he could get up on stage and it was so funny.

33:20 Two sets. His name was Chad. His name during second set was Brad because Brad is the one after like seven eight jack and cokes. Okay, yeah, and so like the first set would be like just playing, he'd just be playing and good, but just playing. Second set, sunset strip, Chad came out getting up on the climbing up on the speakers and yelling at people. One time I left and his his uh cutting his co person. However I would put co duet person. However I would put she was sick that night. She calls me when I got home, She's like, you gotta go back and get Chad. I'm like, oh, what do you do? He played? He played Sweet Home Alabama five times in a row. I can't even And when I got there, he was standing up on the amp. So he's like, hello whatever the name of the place says, hello, blah blah blah. How about Sweet Old Alabama?

34:45 Like no, Chad, It's kind of like Sean. Sean definitely reminds me of Chad. I told you his new nickname, right, Oh my god. So any final words, we want to leave the listeners with anything we haven't covered. You know, we covered you know, deep throating, we covered fuck Shan Nation and a lot of stuff. But what didn't we cover? Yeah, I know what we didn't cover. I didn't know Batman was Christian except for Christian bail because I'm looking at his uh tat. So this is my heaven and hell or my ying and my yang. So we're talking about us my cross as bat wings on it nice. You gotta have one to have the other. I got a funny story about crosses, by the way. So when I was a teenager, you know, back then, piercings weren't as popular. Like you got either your left ear or your right ear and that one and want something different. Yeah, and then if you had both, it men the other yea. And so I said to my dad, I wanted to get my ear piercing. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. So ad long era. So I went to it anyway, And one day in California, the sant and the winds were kicking up, so my hair went behind my ear. He had a feather earring.

36:13 No better. It was an upside down cross. And I'm a Jew. So the logic of a teenager I walk in nouse. My stepmother sees it. Rats me out, and my dad like goes off, not just because I pierced it, because I was wearing a cross. You're a Jew, I'm like, dad, but you don't understand. It's an upside down cross. It doesn't mean Christianity, it means Satan. I'm not violating our religion, right, And I was. I think back like to that moment in time. I was dead serious. I wasn't even like trying to get out of it. I was dead serious, like, no, Satan, it's not Christian and doesn't because Jews don't believe in Satan. So I'm thinking, you're you're good. Yeah, it's no big deal. Yeah, oh my god, what stupid idiots we are teenagers went up here as the crows.

37:10 It's a little lightning bolts under my gargoyle said. I was a kid thirteen or whatever the want of a tattoo, of course, so I couldn't go to tatchoo you tud to be eighteen. So I made my own tattoo gun out of a toothpaste, a toothbrush, and an old cock that the digital clocks to flip. Got the motor out of that and put a needle on it, and then I made my little night I made it made me in a lightning bolt because I was fast back in the day. Oh, my dad was a military you know, jel a sergeant. Blah blah blah blah. We're working on a car one day and next sermon sees my tattooing shit and fuck, he goes, what's that? That's where you got one of his on your military badge with the horse and the lightning bolts. So I was trying to copy that. He's all right, that's the last one.

37:51 Yes, sir, that was a smart move on your part. That was a lot smarter than my answer. I could tell you. I was trying to play up to dad, you know, like you yeah and listen as a dad. I'd be like, fuck, he got me. That's what I said. That's the last one. He said, Like, John, Wayne, that's funny. That's the last one. That's the last one. Let's well, do we want to do it now or we want to finish the interview first. It's up to you either way, Like, I'll do any kind I'll even do a deep throat picture if you want. Yeah, it won't be what you think though. Well, this was cool, this was fun. Your gig fucking rock rock Oklahoma, and I expected nothing less and I am critical, So if you sucked, I would have told you're right on the air. I have actually heard you be critical of bands.

38:46 I was nervous to be honest with you. You know, I keep looking at everyone's at all to see is he smiling or not. I'm inspecting your show. I wanted pipe Man's approval because yeah, I was like collecting, you know, evidence if you sucked at on the interview. Listen, I was at your set and listen, you really need to blah blah blah. Yeah, but I say blah blah blah because I don't have anything because you guys fucking rock and I don't need. You don't need to do shit except right the Shawn Nations song and watch it. You got right, you got right? Fuck, you got right? Fuck? Was it? Even in Death? That's the new song death? And look at this. Oh I get a hat. Oh that's for you nice? I want both? What what the fuck you know? There's a Yiddish saying mems fay. It means free take two. Excuse me, sir, we're in the middle of an interview here, yea, we're late for another interview. Uh oh, you're late. You have somebody right now too, Yeah, except they canceled.

40:09 They're not doing any press, so so I can talk for the next hour. Fuck the rest of your interviews. Now, well, then, you're late. You're late. You're late for an important things. Hang out with you, pipe man. That's right, and with that hat on, I just feel like saying you're late. You're late, you're late for important important date. Time to say hello, good hello, goodbye. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm late. And there it is. We're late. So we got go people. We gotta let Bad Allison go before the other interview kicks my ass for taking their time. Yeah. Hey, thanks for having Bad Allison on the Adventure as a pipe man. Well, thank you all of you, even even the Grant. I'm just gonna call him the Grant. That sounds cool. That's like a superhero, the grand Thanks for being on the Adventures Pike Main. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of patemin Im W four CUI Radio.