PipemanRadio Interviews Alien Ant Farm at Aftershock 2024

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0:47 Storm no mocitic shape degree kill the night. Is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four C Y Radio. And I'm here with. I'm Terry and I play an alien An Farm. I am dried in, I sing for alien an Farm. Hi, I am Timmy p Poo and I play the bass for alien an Farm. Nice here after shock Man? How bad ass is that? This is a love after shave. I love it. It's been so far, it's been a blast. I mean it's like summer camp for us in a way. You get right people you don't normally see. You know, that's what's cool.

1:32 Like I do all the festivals, but this is the coolest festival because it is press artists area, because everybody does just come and hang out here and chill and you like that. It's a lot of trees and the waters close like some of these festivals are in straight up like on the tarmac of like a NASCAR track or I ain't slighting anyone, but you know, like. An old Sears parking lot, like a park something like boiling hot. Yeah, something that is. Like super conduce to like like magnifying heat usually. So this is nice. With the trees in the green, it's very cool. So you should have seen last night when Slipknot played. Okay, there's yeah, Cory's like, what the fuck was is with all the people in the trees.

2:20 Yeah, there was people in the trees. Like literally, it is the best way to see if you're not gonna get up close. It's like, just climb up the tree. Do they have like a tree police here or anything? Like? Nobody stopped him, Like they're just chilling up there. I have a picture of one of the chicks up in the tree and she was way up there, just chilling like this. And it did catch Corey's attention. There's like this sea of people and then he's like, what the fuck with the people in the trees. I'll tell you who else's attention it caught was the festival insurance. Yes, like slub that's for sure. He's out there. You know, there's gonna be a new addendum next year for the insurance. Is gonna be like, yeah, no, people in the tree, we need tree insurance.

3:04 No doubt. But you are right, that is something cool. When it's really hot out, just go chill under the tree. Could just have a little greenness. That's right. And it is like kind of that cool like you're in a park, You're not at a like you said, some concrete jungle. Very much so. So I love the pug. I had a pug and tell me about cocaine pug. I was hoping this shirt would be a hit today, but no, he just looks like my pug and my pug's insane. And I found this online and I was like, that's the best shirt ever. So I grabbed it. So many many years ago, my daughter was gaining bup mitzvud and she goes and wants to pick out a dog for her present, and she points out this pug and I remember saying, or I'm like, why do you want such an ugly dog?

3:58 Why do you want to call a dog that does cocaine? Right? There you go? But best dog I ever had in my fucking life. They're so loyal Oh, for their loyalty. That's why they were the lab dog of kings. Yeah, ancient times. I would go out on the road, you know, go on tour to doot these festivals, and my wife would be like, she just sat by the door the whole time waiting for you. It's it's wild. So what new do you guys have to say right now? You got a new album that came out not too long ago. I think that's badass. How you write new music after all these years we're helping. That says everything you know is you know, it's no real like formula to it these days. I think when we were young and just starting the band and stuff, it was more of like you know, the literal being in a garage, like together looking at each other like okay, you do this, blah blah blah, you know, like yeah, work in the work in the clay. Nowadays we still do that, it happens, but we tend to write a lot on our own, and you know, being the the you know, twenty twenty four, the technical revolution, we're yeah, emailing stuff to each other now and there's some magic to be had there, you know, just like getting surprised with the riff or something, and you're like, oh, what can I do to this?

5:26 And we've been doing it like that a lot. Do you like it better now with that ability to do that then way back when where you had to do the archaic things. I think it's cool. I think the technology thing is is super well. What I like about it a lot is I can scratch track like recording at home. I can record like a whole bit and put down like fake drums and like play a little bass on it or something and send it to the guys, and then you know, everybody can kind of say this is working or I feel in this part it's cool. Do you think your music creativity changes with that, like, because you have more abilities to experiment?

6:09 Well? It can? It certainly can. You can run off on tangents. I got like a little an old school seventies mood keyboard, and then all of a sudden, I'm like, am I writing spando ballet riffs now? Or what the hell is like? So you can kind of like veer off a little bit. So yeah, I mean, yes, the answer is yes. But you then you think, consciously, okay, am I writing for ant farm or what? You know? It depends like what you're really writing for. In my head, we're guitar driven bands, so I usually wait for riffs to come to me and I kind of know our sound not that and we venture off a little bit. But I feel like I know from. Years past, like I do, go back to our first record and kind of hear what's clicking, what are the positives, what are the cool things, what are the little nuances that I had back then? Kind of try and interject them into new stuff.

7:00 You know. And what would you tell you back then now about writing music back then? What would I tell? What would you tell yourself that if you were able to tell younger you. I just say stop drinking immediately like now today. Yeah, yeah, that's. A common theme I think from the old days for sure. It's like, have you ever seen that meme of the rock star in the eighties and the rock star in twenty twenties. The eighties has this dude lying on the ground guitar in one hand and Jack dadiels and the other passed out, and today's as a dude sitting with the guitar on his lap as computer doing everything on the computer.

7:46 Yeah, well, hey, you know what we've kind of we've transcended both eras, you know what I mean, it's amazing thing to say it both eras, you know, Like honestly it's pros and cons. There's a lot of benefits now of having you know, like you can do something on your phone. You know that are are you know, unless you're Kerr came and you do like. And rock and roll, like not not to diss it completely, rock and roll and abuse and like abuse of your body and alcohol and drugs is like so like one and the same and the early parts of it and it's conception and where like true like turmoil and well a lot of really heartache.

8:29 Stuff comes from that. Yeah, and so. I can't knock it. You know, it's no way to live. There's a couple of seasons of that are cool, and then it's like you're not getting anything from it anymore. But I used to love to get saucy and kind of just go down that rabbit hole of misery and pen my songs, you know, But that's not the way to do it anymore. That's true right there. But then I also look at like artists back then and I'm like, how the fuck are they even performing on stage. They can't even stand like you see the backstage or falling over and they get up on stage and just the thing. Yeah, it's like muscle memory or something. I'm also a big believer that the record labels back then loved giving all the drugs and alcohol to ours so that they can do what they want to do.

9:13 It makes sense keep someone happy with their addiction. You can, you can rape them on the other side, you know exactly. And so yeah, you knew what I was gonna say with kirk phone or whatever. Yes, and like three hundred and fifty riffs. Yeah, I don't do that in my phone. I've literally I mean. Like I said, I lost a hard drive with a lot of man hours of stuff I have. I have all the MP three's of the music, but it's not like the sessions where there was like hours of takes and stuff. So again, this is music just for me. That it made it all the more important to me, you know. What I mean. Sure, I would want to have all that stuff for sure. Yeah, you never know what you could get out of that stuff.

9:58 Though I was pretty sad. I was tore up for a good couple of weeks over that. Yeah, I would be too. I would maybe more than a couple of weeks. Yeah, I'd be like today, Fuck, that was a good song. Maybe I can figure it out again. Now and yeah first day of tour. Wow man, But here you are all these years later and still relevant, trying bro. You know that that's something you got to sit there and go wow, Because like when you first started this thing, did you really think that we'd be sitting here in twenty twenty four? Maybe because I was just cocky and thought we'd be around forever. So in a weird way maybe, but no, with some perspective, no way, because just trials and tribulations and families and friendships and love affairs and all the things that come in and out of our lives. It's a miracle that we've stayed, you know, somewhat focused on this one thing.

10:55 You know, it just says you're true artist. In my opinion, Crying. Brother, Jevity is like fucking everything in this business, no doubt, right, you know, I mean you could have you could be this level or this level, you know, and obviously this level you didn't get some longevity. But if you can find your niche, yeah, and you know, kind of whatever, just service it in a way that it grows and you have your core fan base and you can achieve longevity. Yeah, there's not a lot of romance. And when you strip it down and you're not you know, we're not a big band, but we're a known band and so it's work. We love it, but it's a lot of you know, most of our days is not involved like actually being on their stage making music.

11:40 It's all the other bullshit. So people don't realize that. No, for sure, it's lucky, it's lucky. Yeah, it's a lot of work. We're badass musicians, but we're lucky. Yeah, it has to have some luck in it, but it's a lot of work. People don't realize, Like the listeners, they don't realize everything else. They only see the fun part, not all the other stuff. Yep, So one story, good or bad in this whole musical journey, what would you share? Hmmm, Well, I was you know, I remember I just mentioned it earlier, so it's not maybe it's coming to mind because I did remember it earlier. But we did our second record with Robert and Dean Delio from Stone Double Pilots and Dean take Me horseback Riding in the Malibu Hills and that was a cool That was a cool day. I was very nervous because I broke my neck in a bad bus crash. Oh, so I was very scared to get on a horse and he's telling me not to worry about it. And then in the first two minutes my horse walked up on a rattlesnake and he was all getting crazy and I was like, Dan, I fucking told you that I did not want to do this, and he's like, bro, it's cool.

12:57 I was like, it's not cool. Oh man, yeah, I wouldn't like that. I got a thousand memories, but that one just came to my head. How about you fucking playing after Shock? Bro? There it is after Shock twenty twenty. Four, Like everybody showed up early, Heavin, everybody showed up early. And there we had our congo line. Oh I love it. That yes on Reddit it like blew up. We didn't even know until today, really wow, and like, yeah, there's a congo line fishing around out there. See after all these years, you can still have something happen and you're like, holy fuck, that's cool as shit.

13:38 You know, I loved it. How about throwing that end but I was like, you know, it's like it really happened. We made it. How about you? You have a story, good or bad, that sticks out on your mind in all these years of music. I do, but I don't. Before I was in the band, when I was a tech, we went to Alaska and I fell asleep running a bath for myself. I flooded my bathroom, the bathroom below me, in the entire hallway. You were not liked, were you at that time? And I was, look, everyone there loved it. We went back to Alaska, I don't know eight years later, and the guy's like, just. The guy who flooded the place, still travel with you guys? And I was like, I'm actually in the band now.

14:18 I got a promotion for it, and he was. It was at that moment that we knew he was an alien al farm. Oh no. See that's a good fucking story, man. That's what you could tell people that have been in your shoes, Like, if you want to join the band. Don't give up. You gotta get so fucked up. Don't give up and flood the place. Stick with it. You got this, don't turn that bathwater off. Don't let anyone tell you to turn that fucking fuscet off. There you go. So, now, after all these years, how can you top everything you've done, including after Shuck today? Play after Shock tomorrow.

14:58 That would be cool. Let's make that happen, Like, let's get Daddy over here, like they need to play a gag. I don't want to top anything. It's just like all experiences, so we can just like stack them on, you know what I mean. Yeah, that's cool. Nothing's gonna top this. It's just cool. Just do it again. Let's do it somewhere else, try and you know. Get hopefully a few people, make some people happy, and that's about it. Leave his little footprint. Try to not flood the hotels anymore, that kind of stuff. Maybe once or twice, no more. Yeah, there you go. Are you guys gonna see a band today that you want to? Look? You're looking forward to see? I'm gonna drive home.

15:39 Yeah, that's going home. That's a good idea. We're going to Europe and UK in like less than a week. Yeah, I saw you're going Netherlands first, right, Yeah for Shure, that's one of my favorite places in the world. Yeah. Do you how you compare playing over than Europe to over here. It's just different. Animal man, it gets similar with these festivals because that's kind of where they originated. Yeah, but never slagged the US. But I do have a fondness for UK crowds and their loyalty to out farm and even this is our home. We love our home. But the UK is unmatched, unparalleled with crowds for Alien Alt Firm. It is interesting.

16:20 I do find the UK and Europe too, like they're still so passionate about bands that it's different. People here were passionate about before. It's different. You see a kid in like a Cypress Hill hoodie or something, he's still like for life all about the Cypress you know before. Now here you're like, what that's that was so twenty years ago or whatever. You know, right, so less fickle, like they just love music. Yeah, and that's it's pure. It's pure when you're gonna go to Drownload and. Still go year after year that has the most horrible weather. Yes, you go there a year after year. You're fucking dedicated.

17:04 Oh yeah, because like when I do interviews there, it's like one interview I'm wearing my hoodie, the next interview I'm not. Because it's like hot cold, hot cold. That's fucking raining, and it's it's great. The smartest thing you could ever do is have some sturdy wellies. There you go. I gotta have the sturdy wellies. And that's just the way it is. I'm gonna start playing. We're playing Download this next year. Are you. I'll be there so we'll have to talk. There's not even the weather. It's fucking Tim in his hotel room leaving the damn. Water on it, coming from Alaska. That's what drowned. That's what drowned. Drownload is your back to. All these years later, it's still pouring into the UK.

17:47 So here's an interesting thing. At Download Metallica last year they had the special system for their sound where no matter where you were in the festival, you can hear them like you were up front. There were complaints from fifteen miles away of the sound that people were saying at their house fifteen miles away and could hear Metallica as if they were sitting in front of them. I wouldn't fucking complain. I'd be like, yeah, I don't have to deal with that festival shit. I'll just sit on my balcony. It was a pavilion near where I grew up, and if you went on my porch, which was kind of enclosed, I found it out like while Aerosmith was playing, Like I could hear the concert and then I take two steps out the porch, it's gone.

18:36 Oh. I was about like, that's wild. Seventeen eighteen miles away, but they was using my porch as a speaker. That is fucking wild. I love that. I'm just kind of thinking about that Portlandia where they wear they have drones that go to the festival and they wear the big hat, they stay at home. Basically it's wild, right. I mean you guys have probably seen it fucking all throughout the years. Of course. I mean, like I said, we started doing these festivals, you know, in the early two thousands, if not ninety nine. Yeah, it's cool to have this over here though, but we've definitely seen a lot. Yeah, and you know what to credit to Danny Wimmer based on what you were saying before too.

19:20 And I see it because I do the festivals over there. He has brought the European and UK festivals to the United States, Like in the essence of how it's run, how the artists are treated, like done the right way. Yeah, it seems like a well oiled machine, which is good. What do you guys think of how Danny Wimmer treats the artists? Pimper ellic. Yeah, I mean it's good to just be able to hit the stage and facilitate a crowd and no stress and then yeah, it's all goods. They run it like a well oiled machine. Everybody's super friendly. It's all good. See. I love all good. Yeah, because that's like, Okay, I did hell Fest year. They had to three hundred and sixty bands. Oh yeah, yeah, not one of them had a sound problem. I'm like, how the fuck does that happen?

20:07 Yeah, that's some logistics, right right. You know, so it's good we have somebody like Danny Wimmer here in the States to make these great festivals that bands like you want to play at. Like if it's a shit show, you don't want to play it because you're gonna have to deal with that. Yeah, that's important what he's doing for the rock and roll world too, you know, because there's a lot of festivals popping off around the country these days. But he's the one that's kind of carrying the rock torch, right that's it. He's carrying the rock torch. He's doing heavy rock festivals. That's important, Like people want that. And you know, like we're here at Aftershock with alien Amp Farm. Yeah, doesn't get better than that. Us that Thanks for being here and thanks for being on the adventures and pipe Man.

20:52 Thank you for having us. Thank you, brother, yeah, thank you, thank you, pleasure. Hey, what's up where alien a Farm? And you're listening to Pipeman on W four c y dot com fight. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipemin on W for c u I Radio.