PipemanRadio Interview Them Bloody Kids About Bloodstock 2024

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0:54 This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man, W four c Y Radio. And I'm really excited about to have this guest. I'm really bummed out that we're not doing this in person because every year I go to Bloodstock and this year, my daughter she decides to go and get married on the weekend of Bloodstock. I mean rude, right, that's rude fish, you know, like, if you're gonna do that, I've seen people get married at festivals. She met the dude at a festival. I brought her to you should be getting married at Bloodstock. To officiate. Yeah, I think she's having a problem find somebody to officiate.

1:37 So that's now my pitch. I'm like, well, you gotta move the wedding to Bloodstock. We have somebody to officiate, and so you better get the license. I'm pretty sure I can do unlicensed. So here we are them bloody kids, you know, I never, never, never talk about like band names because it's like the most boring shit ever. Okay, And so basically, you know, I think of your band name, and I have this image of my head because I live in a condo in South Florida, I have an image of in my head of some old people yelling out the window at kids playing and saying them bloody kids, and probably adding more to that.

2:28 That's exactly yeah, yeah. And that's why I think it's so stupid when other press people go how'd you get your band name? Like, sit and think for a second. A lot of times it's just common sense or for no reason at all. Yeah, that's actually. I've seen a band in the sort of UK metal scene, just on various social media is called weed Eater. I wonder where that one's come from, right, yeah, yeah. So here's a good story. I've told this a few times because it's so freaking good. But you know, I go on tour, I do festivals all over place, and normally I will say and before the interview, I'm like, and I don't ask stupid questions like how did you get your band name? So I was interviewing August Burns Red and I said that to them, and they're like, well, you're lucky then, because you see that girl next to you.

3:29 She asked us that, And when people ask us that, we give a different answer every time and with a complete straight face, and usually it's a very horrific answer. So right, and so this poor girl, okay, she asked a question and their answer, with total straight face, was well, you know, when we were teenagers, we were outside playing and you know, my sister, she you know, she got this dog. We decided to name it August. And one day we were like partying and all high and decided let's light the dog on fire and watch it run down the street.

4:10 And arago. August burns red. And that look you had on your face is the exact probably look or worse that that girl had. They were saying that you had to see the look on her face, and we just did not break character, and we just left and we left after an interview. We never told her. I want to go listen to that, right, oh man? But Bloodstock like that is one of my favorite festivals in the whole world, just because you know, it's great music.

4:54 But there's lots of festivals with great music. It's the family community of blood to Stark itself. It's just fricking amazing. So I want to know how you guys got so lucky enough to get on this road to Bloodstock. Tell us about the road to Bloodstar. Well, first of all, I would say luck was only you know maximum, but no. Obviously, Yeah, there's a lot of luck because at the end of the day, it's a competition. Yeah, so we got there through the Metal to the Masses competition which they have in all the different counties all over the UK and other countries.

5:37 Yeah, yeah, Poland and stuff like that. An Irish one. Too, Yeah, there you go. So yeah, we we did the London division of it. I guess it was the London one. Yeah, third year on the trot for him on the truck for me as part of the band, and it was Pete's third. This third show. It was wow. Yeah, I was fairly fresh. I was still asking what the chords were just before. Sorry you played bass? Right? I love it? Yeah, so yeah it was.

6:18 It was. It was a long fought battle, but here we are going to Bloodstock. Wasn't fucking buzzing about it as well? I know, right? And no, you know, in all seriousness. It's not fucking luck. Like there is a little bit of luck, but man, you have to have some skill because there is a lot of really good musicians that compete in that Metal to the masses. Yeah, I mean that's true. It was stacked. The competition was stacked this year. I mean that final was such a good lineup. Yeah, that blow your mind when you found out you won. Yes, yeah, yeah, we actually talked about it quite a lot. We have this memory where like I just like embraced him.

7:00 I was like, we fucking did it, man, a weekly basis that moment of bonding. Yeah, because yeah, anybody could have a bad day too, Like those are usually the pressure cookers that. Man, I fucked up. Yeah, I mean we. Usually I kind of expect people to like fall to the level of prep there. I usually expect people to fall to the level of preparation. So, like, you know, if you get put in a pressurized situation, you usually do like your kind of minimum best. But actually in this scenario, we I think we played really really well at the final just kind of lined up right for us.

7:44 The stars stars aligned in the crowd was. Tv K before he came on, and I think we were just felt felt. Wow, such a good vibe man. Yeah, and everyone was in like the tv K party has that you see on ther background there like that, there was like one hundred people in those cats. Was awesome. I let, okay my background here. I was going to start the interview with I'm just going to show this picture and that's all we need to talk about because that says it all right there. It truly spacial expression though, is top top top shit? I love it? It totally is. But like I look at that picture. That's why I picked that picture as a background, because I looked at him like I don't even have to ask any questions because that picture says the whole story of the band right there.

8:35 It's like pretty specifically as well. This picture really does answer the question how did it feel to win metal? That was essentially what was going through each and every single one of our heads at the moment of announcement. Yeah, I love that. I think the picture with you wearing one of the party hats is a muzzle in cash. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There is. I will stop barking after we. Walk and I gotta tell you your music and your videos, I fucking love them, and if I were to get.

9:20 You know, it's funny because I get the vibe of like, you know, like really good metal and and I'm gonna you're gonna laugh. Why I'm saying this way really good metal, really good all music, and Queens is a stone Age vibe. Favorite. And I said that because I actually think it was better than Queens's Stone I said them separately, Right, what do you want from us? Right, it's kind of like Queens of the stone Age became more metal, That's what they would say.

10:10 Can we quote that on our website? Absolutely? That there it is. You have the quote that you can use everywhere. Pipe Man said, if Queens of stone Age was more metal, they would be them bloody kids. You said better. You know, if Queens is stone Age were better, they would be them bloody kids. Except like my brother used to put them on all the time, and like they're like one of the formative bands for me, Like I really really love them, So that means a lot.

10:54 Thank you, Yeah, my pleasure. And yeah, I mean, you know, it's funny because I got it right away, and I don't think I saw that in anywhere where they're like if you like this, if you like this, I didn't see that anywhere, so it's not coming from that. What I did see there was only five minutes before the interview, and I got dressed this morning, not before the interview, and it's like, really freaky. We were talking about before the interview, Pete, you weren't here yet, but I'm wearing a System of a Down shirt. I had no clue. And then I was like, five minutes before the interview, I saw something that said influences System, and I'm like, maybe I should change my shirt. Serendipitous, right, It was definitely serendipitous, But and then I was thinking at first, like, well, I look like I'm really kissing ass. So instead I took the picture that's the kissing as.

11:55 System. Actually, to be fair, I think for me and said system like it's I think at least like top three. They are in my top five. Would you like to know my top five? Maybe let's all. Go around do that. I'll do it first, my top live. You can go last. My top five is Slayer, Metallica, Bring Me the Horizon, Slipknot, and System of a Down and Exodus is a close six. Kirk hammets first, yes.

12:37 Yes, which yeah wait wait wait I want to know which era bring Me, Bring Me the Horizon. So here's here's the funny thing about that. I've been to the first Slayer show ever, been to the first Metallica show ever. I saw Exodus when Kirk was in the band, Yeah, and slip Knot. First time I saw them was nineteen ninety nine oz Fest Third Stage and mud Vein. Also, I don't even know how they fit all nine members on. Because third stage is like a kitchen table.

13:20 Yeah, like third stage is like a kitchen table at you know. And so basically bring Me to Rise and believe it or not came for me later because I was doing a festival and I saw them and I was like, oh my fucking god, what a show. So I first found out about them when they put out That's the Spirit, But I have gone back. Yeah, So I like every version of bring Me And you know what, one of the albums that I probably play over and over and over again, it's Simpletonal Yeah yeah, yeah, and they just played I was just that grass pop and they played there and it's always I think Ali is one of the best lyricists for me. You know, like that if you take that line, you can't drown my demons.

14:24 They know how to swim. I can't drown my demons. They know how to swim. That's like my. Favorite lyric ever in history, because I'm like, holy shit, that is so brilliant and that so described me and probably everybody in the world. It's so succinct, isn't it. Like it's it's kind of you know exactly what he's talking about straight away, but it's such a small, little catchy sing along the ball line as well. At the same time, Yeah, anyway, your top five I want to know? Yeah, oh no, I said, I'm shot gonna going last. But on the point of just that one lyric as well, I feel like what makes it so great is that it's like it has like a level to it, but also at the same time, like the first time you hear it, it probably only really comes across, at least.

15:11 To me, as like just quite a straight up emo lyric, right when you. Think you like, actually, oh no, yeah, it's so complex, right. Yeah, exactly are we doing the top five musical artists or just. Little any anybody? It doesn't have to be metal. Well, I would say, like perhaps like the top five ones that. Have had a profound influence perhaps on like me taking up music's a CDC. First and foremost, they were the band that I was listening to, like at the moment where I was like, Dad, can you like, can I have a bass guitar place for like next?

16:02 And he was like yeah, yeah, go for it. And I loved But like I thought, after three months of owning a basic, I'd like completed. It because. Baselines are this is the easiest baselines that you can possibly come up with. Uh so funny too. When I first heard Black back in Black, I had to listen. And this was back in a time where when you bought an album, you listened to it ten million times whether you liked it or not, because you just spent all your money on. It, you know. And I listened to this album. It took me listening to it probably about ten times before I liked it. And now it's like, yeah, it's like my my favorites ever.

16:46 But I'm also team Bond Scott. Fair enough, fair enough Yeah, But to me it's like Back in Black would just be that's like a complete no skip album. Yeah, like I need to I need to get this off. I'm just gonna like nod and smile and pretend I've actually listened to the whole album. And then I would say moving on from maybe like in chronological order. After that, I start getting more in type Metallica and stuff like that, and older thrash metal bands. Like them Mega Death that told me. The pinnacle of bands that probably got me like and start like influenced my playing Blink eighty two like the top of the pyramid. They are the number one, like they hold like the most special place in my heart is Blinky two.

17:40 And then I kind of like pivoted a little bit more like bands, less kind of like metally stuff. I was like Neck Deep as well, that's another one, and the more sort of like modern band. It's just the first time I'm hearing of this, so. I kind of see that's why this is I might first time I've done this, and I think, sleeve, did we get five? There? Is that your five? Did we get one? More? Right? A d C Blink, Neck Deep.

18:22 Metallica, He's given us more than five. Who's the fifth? I don't know who i'd give the fifth to see. That's the hard one to slip. Not also, but I feel like it's a bit of a cop out to say one that's. Already know you got you gotta say it. You know what I love about your list. It is very diversified, you know, and and like I I actually it's weird. I'll have like top five metal, top five punk, you know, top five this. But I come from that era where it's like everything was like kind of separate. I like today's era where you know, you have genres that blend, and especially there's so many bands now so that's the only way you're going to sound unique. So something like this.

19:12 Doing something like this, we kind of really find out why your music is so good and works. It's because it's not just this one formula. Like that's why I feel a lot of times nowadays metal especially, there's like bands that just follow this algebraic equation of how to make metal. I do like some death core, but so much of it just makes me want to fall asleep, Like it's just which is crazy to say. It is like the least. Music you can imagine. It's just used to go to sleep to a suspades. So I'm pretty sure that I'm but no, I do agree, it's not.

19:57 I think the weirdest always has piqued my interest so that the blending is good. Yeah, and see, you don't even know what Pete's influences are till right now. He's a bass player. I don't really care. It's a lower level of material because just above him, you watch. You've got to watch your step. I've just been influenced by crayons and drawing. That's it. Your nose made to be fair. And I for you being a drummer, I have a special question for you. Who's the worst drummer ever? Everybody asked, who's the best drummer ever?

20:51 Oh my god? What my famous one? Because I teach and I've got some really bad students. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you if you call out your students, have a feeling that your income might drops. We've got that bloodstock money come in. No, I'm joking, of course, But famous ones, I mean the obvious one is Las, isn't it really? Yeah? See that's where I wanted to see if you went there, because everybody's been going there a lot lately. Kind of. I kind of get why people say it, But at the same time, it depends on your definition of worst. Because you know, he's he does cock up a lot on stage and like a lot of the recordings from what I know, are like many, many, many takes kind of chopped together because he can't get like a good one or two or three or even four take for the tracks, which you know, but at the same time, he's in Metallica.

21:51 So right, well that's what I look at. I'm like, he must be doing something right because I was there back in the day and there were a lot of bands that did not make it that were super talented. So yeah, like there and there is something to that Metallica drum sound, like you can tell it's Lars, and there's something to it. Now some of the parts are really good as well, Like it's yeah, there's a lot to be said for him. But you know, like speaking of Dave, he likes to raz on Lars a lot. He was in one interview he's like, yeah, the reason we had to make the mechanics, uh, the four Horsemens, because Lars need it slowed down because he couldn't keep up.

22:40 Well, yeah, Dave's not exactly someone to not have a chip on his shoulder. You know, no doubt. Well listen, okay, if you're kicked out of because we used to call them their nickname was back in the day, alcoholic. If you're kicked out Alcoholic for drinking too much, you might have a drinking problem. Just saying, do you know what I'm gonna I've got a really really spicy hot take here. Actually on the original question, Oh, I don't know if I want to say this on on camera, but not worst, but potentially most overrated might be Mike Portnoy.

23:26 Oh yeah, that would definitely raise Like everybody might agree with you with Lars, even if they like Lars, because they're like, yeah, everybody says. That he's a very good drummer. But I think people, I think there's reasons to believe he's not as insane as a lot of people seem to take. Anything. All press is good. Well listen, Okay. One of my interviews made the news recently because it was with Carmine Apiece and he said that Black Seventh was not metal and that made the moves. Yeah, well, Black Sabas in my top five.

24:10 Okay, so let's hear your top five. I forgot about. Yeah, Blacks, I'd say Black Sabbath, System of It Down then, yeah, exactly, Darren Blankin's side project of the System Down Scars on Broadway, which I yet to see. It's one of the few bands that I haven't seen live and I'm gagging to see him. But they never leave LA, so. I have seen them. Yeah, yeah, you looky bastard. Honestly, news mus I'm probably stick in that list a little bit. James Blunt, James Blunt nice. I'm not even joking. I used to smash James Blunt and I could still sing you the whole black Wow.

24:51 We have to make some content out of that. Guys. It's funny because I kind of like MWS, but I never got what the big fascination. And a couple years ago I did this festival Shaky Knees and they were playing and I looked around the Crown like, oh my god, like that's insane. Yeah, they are so good. I was the first person in my area to buy the Second Law album when it came out. I was cute outside of the Sainsbury's. Yeah, yeah, that's how dedicate that was. I asked, were you queued outside of Sainsbury's or were you the one person outside waiting for it to open?

25:34 Well, I love you know that. It was, you know, me and a couple of employees. All right, now your top five? I should really have used the work time to think about this, Okay, So in no particular order, tool are definitely on there. For sure. I think Danny Carey is my favorite drummer of all time. See them for the first time live recently, so I'm very happy about that. Probably system as well, for sure. I don't really ever listen to Slipnot anymore, but they are definitely up there because they had a huge impact on me when I was younger. Nirvana might be in there as well, because I don't really again, don't really listen to them, but when I was growing up, like I used to sit there drumming along to Nirvana constantly, and Queens of the Stone Age definitely, and then as well.

26:30 I guess that's fine. Okay, So. How do you rank Growl as a drummer. I think he's yeah, fantastic, but I think he's just kind of a He's a powerhouse, right, and like his. His parts are just really really musical, like I think he's There's definitely a lot of drummers that are technically more skilled, but like you kind. Of just know when it's him, right. I also really like that he's said so many times, like he stole so much from like disco and funk. Because I really like this. I love that you said that because I was waiting till you're done to give you a trivia question, and now I can't ask it. Let me say exactly that.

27:16 I'm like, where do you think the drumming and Nirvana came from? And yes, it blows my mind. That's disco. I remember being a kid in the disco times and I had a mirror that said disco sucks and my brother I like, throw it in his face because he was in the disco Get on my face before I break it. And you betrayed Yeah, right, I could. I was portrayed by Kiss. I was portrayed by Kiss before that when they came out with I Was Made for Loving You and the like they were the anti disco band and then they even they joined it and that's probably why Disco.

27:57 Died associated that song with the discos. But now now that you said it, I was going through in my head and I was just like, no, there's definitely a disco ball going. On in that music video. Corn here, by the way, I meant to put corn in there. Sorry, Yes, so maybe you could take slipnot out and put Corn in as the new metal representative of your top five. Ye Corn as well a little bit discoing into them as well on the topic of maybe, like all right, just bear with me here bassis who are actually quite underrated.

28:40 People tend to think Fieldy. From Corn isn't like the best bass player, but like he is one of those bass players where he might not be the most like technically talented, but like he. Is, he's like the most memorable bass player. Yeah, that's what I was just about to say. He like, if you hear him playing, you know it's him, which is incredibly rare to do on bass for people to be able to pick out and be. Like or something, you know who I feel I can pick out for both as far as basis that if I hear it, I know it's them. One is. Steve Harris and the other is Joey Vera from Armored Saint.

29:25 Who's who's the guy from Primus? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Les Claypool. He's probably the most for me, the most easily recognizable. Both both picks up a base and it's like That's what I'm going to do with it. Goes to talent it. Yeah, also speaking to my top five would do a little bit of primus. This is true. Yeah, so again yeah, not to let my bias like ring out, but I would also say Mark Coppers has his own sort of like thing to it. He actually like these bassists Blank, He's like.

30:07 To me just because I'm the disco punk band Blink. Sort of his baselines. I can always tell when it's him like doing it fair enough. So one time I was interviewing Waddie from The Exploited a few years ago and was right before they were going on stage, and I asked him when he thought about pop punk, knowing what the reaction would be, and he yelled at the whole crowd when he went out stage. And then it's a that's not pumped bullshes not punk. I sort of see his point.

30:49 Listen, I'm from old school punk like The exploit and it's like the whole point of punk was cannot be pop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a whole point. You sucked at your instruments, you were not popular, and like they took it to a whole other level over metal. I mean punk bands back in the seventies eighties, if you even got to play at a club that people knew, then you were a bunch of poser sellouts, you know, like if you weren't playing in somebody's them, if you were playing in somebody's fucking garage, you weren't a punk band. Okay, all right, take notes.

31:35 Peat don't say that because I have to stop playing in your garage then, which is where we were. That's true. I just practice and complained that very angrily by our elderly woman downstairs neighbors. So yeah, I you know what I say about those people. Fuck them. Yeah, it's just like when my it's just like when my kids tell me don't get my my my kids any loud things. Next day there's a drum set and guitar at their door.

32:16 Yeah, my parents made the mistake of getting a drum set. And I don't play drums now for a reason. So well that's what killed it for me, because I started off playing drums. I played for like nine years, but I was only like at home, allowed to have a practice pad, and like fuck that that. I got so fucking bored of that, and it's like I want a drum set. No, we're not getting you a drum set. You know it's it's a it's a mobile burden to carry. I will say so myself, right, Yeah, just so you see them from the start and what the parents are gonna wear.

33:00 Yeah. Yeah, you're the drum teacher man. That's like, are you like one of the most hated teachers on the planet. So tell everybody how they can hit you, guys up on socials, on your website, buy your merch check out your tour dates, music, all that good stuff. Yeah, Instagram at t b k u K all of our dates are in our link tree and on the Lincoln bio. We've got Facebook. Then Bloody Kids. We've got TikTok them Bloody Kids UK. We've got a website that's currently under construction but.

33:41 Very nearly, very nearly completely and you will be able to purchase much. Yes, and yeah, I think that's about it. Really. We've got YouTube. It's just everywhere them Bloody kids. Shake your fist when I do it. Yeah, it's like this. Yeah. No, I'm very that you got it, you know, totally. Bloody is like incredible is probably the most British word out like going is bloody. Well, I'm gonna give you the best laugh of the whole interview. Okay, I was married to a British girl. Way, that's not the funny part. The funny part is like so many English girls come to America and they they play up the whole royal bullshit, you know, like to come over here, we're better than you, and I'm hoity toity, I'm this like high class, you know, royal British bitch.

34:51 Blah blah blah. She was from Newcastle. You didn't see that COVID. I told you it'd be the funniest thing of the interview. There's times the Queen's ended a fucking Christmas. Speech would just be like, yeah, we are not we are not fans of the royals in this in this band, no. I would think, so, yeah, get rid of them. Yeah we don't. We're not into that.

35:33 Of drama now too, like, well my king now. Fingers and. Yeah it's a shambles. Harry the only decent one. He's been kicked out the whole thing. He seems all right, I. Know, right, my own kind Like maybe he should become like the King of America. I don't think that'll go down well in America. Yeah, well, we are trying to elect King Trump so. Let's keep the old election. On the topic of the royals, though, it's like there is so much drama coming from that family, and it's always struck me as so weird.

36:19 It's like, so much drama comes from this family of a whole family of people. You seem like they are the most boring people on the planet. I know, right, you're sat down having lunch with any of them, you just. Never talk about anything. They just like, keep it in, keep it in, my son, is. What I did. You can't sweat. Now. What I did think being over here looking from Afar is I thought the Queen was kind of a badass because here's this little men like kept everybody in freaking line in the family.

37:06 I mean, I'm not a fan of the royals, but fair play to a for lasting as long as you did. Yeah right, yeah, the benefits of being a lizard person, she's. She's reached out. Oh that's great. I love it. They are all lizard people, aren't they. I'm fully into it. Is that is that scientology? Know that that's your guy, David, that's your guy and David Ike in. The u K. He came up with that. You know, I'd loved a pint with David. He probably some right stories.

37:47 I think it's the Royals that started the rumor that, you know, the Illuminati was involved in the Olympics because go Jiro was playing satanic music, Like I'm gonna get Oh you didn't know that. Oh yeah, you didn't know that. That's a big thing right now, Like they're saying that the Illuminati is now involved in the Olympics because Gojia played the satanic band, Like they don't even why you listen to lyrics idiots? Okay, right, they're the least satanic band on the freaking planet ever in history.

38:27 Were they playing like. A classical piece of French music, like yeah it was anti royalty, yeah, guitar. And there's people that are changing the logo of the Olympics to say six six six because of it, And maybe it's because it's only three reasons. That sounds fucking hard. The Olympic rings six six six. Exactly, and there's only you know, like two reasons they think this one because he is like this, and the other is because there was fire, Like so of course there's fire and you're singing you must be satanic.

39:14 I just point out that fire is like the most iconic part of the Olympics in with the. Bloody Christians. By the way, props to them for getting Snoop Dogg to do it. That's awesome. He was funny as hell through the whole thing. He was so funny. Probably just got a little bit confused. Someone asked him, was like, do you want to come down to front and spark up something. He just handed his massive metal torch. He's like, im here. Did you see. At one point holder was talking and he went right up in the camera. He went like this into the camera while Holda was talking. Man, so here's your goal, guys.

40:06 Sorry, so we're talking about like top ten of like all musical artists like looping back to that. Snoop Dogg's going in there for me because he was the one who got me, like started on hip hop. Probably find discovering hip hop through Biggie Small. When I was a teenager, I'm a boy. I liked Eminem. So I just saw one of there was I think it was on TikTok or Instagram just today. It was like it was Eminem talking to his original self where he had blonde hair, no facial hair, when like he was as peak and they were like, are arguing with each other of who's the better eminem Yeah, it was pretty cool, you know.

40:54 I mean he's He was probably my biggest influence lyrically in terms of like lyrical style and like how you phrase words, how you bryan words like multi syllabolic, like rhymes like socle. I mean, he's brilliant. He is brilliant. One who is a metal head. I got another story for you in that realm. So there's somebody that lives in the town where my studio is, and he does a festival we do every year, and he also does this other festival in downtown where during Christmas raises money for toys for tots for you know, underprivileged kids and stuff. And basically, one day I was doing a live broadcast for his event, and you know, we became friends. And I'm blasting slipknot as I'm taking the radio equipment out of my vehicle and he's helping me. He starts headbanging and I looked at over him and I rolled my eyes at him.

41:51 He's like, no, man, you don't understand, dude, this is my jam. In fact, I helped them get signed Vanilla Ice No No. Man, I actually, to be honest, have a lot more. I watched a video essay recently about about white rappers actually, and I have more respect for Vanilla Ice now surprisingly after that video than I ever did before. Well too, I have more respect for him because when I first, before I knew him, somebody said, oh, Vanilla Ice lives in town, you should have him on your show. I'm like, why, exactly nice, And then they're like, well, go down he does his twice for Tot's thing in a couple of weeks. Go down there and check it out.

42:35 And you tell me I went down there, I'm like, holy shit, he still has a following. There were like fifty thousand people there. Then I found out at that time he had like the number one single in London. And then he had this famous real estate show on DIY network, which I've been on now with him. And but what happened was he broadcasted a lot. I broadcasted live at the event we did in our town that he performed. Now, he was supposed to do an interview the first year he was supposed to do an interview, and he kept coming over and his manager kept ripping away. Ah, he doesn't have time for blah blah blah blah blah. And then. At the end of the night, the manager comes up to me and says, yeah, sorry, man, we gotta go to another event. He's not gonna be able to do an interview. I'm like, yeah, that's cool. You know, when you're pressed, you know, you know, shit happens. That's the way it is. I saw Rob that's his real name, running across the lawn of the Amphitheater and sit down in the chair and shoot his manager way he said, I promised you an interview. I'm giving you one. That was the first time I gained respect for him because, like, he did not have to do that shit.

43:48 That's awesome. But that was cool shit. But what's even better? So my network ended up partnered with iHeartRadio in the beginning because we babe attested the original like podcast network, But that happened because of Villanila ice and not necessarily in a good way. So what happened was he invited me to come down and broadcast live at his event. Second year, I go down to broadcast live clear channel. Who is now iHeart. They come up to me and this director and says, take your booth down. I'm like, what, oh, yeah, we're Clear Channel. We pay him and we pay for this event. We don't want you here. Take your boot down. I'm like, okay, well, I'm not your competition. I'm just some local station and you know you're your iHeart, you're not you know, I'll throw people your way.

44:41 I don't care. They're like, no, you are our competition and we don't want you here. Please take your stuff down now. I'm like, so then I wasn't nice anymore. I'm like, well, if Rob tells me and leave, I'll leave. But I'm not leaving because you tell me I'll leave. And she had like steam coming over, ears like you, and she went up to his stage where he was sound checking, and I hear her over to my mic. He goes, get the fuck off my stage and leave my fucking radio station alone. And then he took her like in some office somewhere and had a talk where and she came and she apologized to me, and then he moved. He moved me into the meet and greet and he goes, you're coming in here with me because they have no say about this fucking area. And then the next year he came up to me, he's like, you do my gig again? I kicked iHeart out of there. I don't put up with that corporate radio bullshit. And like that's how he made his money. They were paying him and for the event. He did not have to do that.

45:43 If he said, hey, dude, can you do me I favor? He wouldn't say anything else. I would have left the fact that he stood up to the big bad wolf and his income to protect somebody else in the industry. Mad respect for him the rest of my life life. You guys know that doesn't happen often. No, no, no, no, that was nice. So he just as real as they get. Like that just proves when people look from Afar, like looking at go Jeer at the Olympics, and they make this assumption maybe and it doesn't have to be a band, it's just a person, you know. Just maybe just go and talk to these people and find out what they're really about before you form your negative assumptions based on fear and every other bullshit.

46:32 And that's why I tell all of my students' parents about infant annihilates. That's good ship. Well, you guys are going to kill it at Bloodstock and I expect that your performance at Bloodstock. This is what I'm expecting from you. Okay, Like you have to do this to come on the show again. You have to blow the Gojira Olympics performance away and do it at Bloodstock. Well, it was lovely to spend some time. Yeah, we'll try.

47:16 And everybody, you guys gotta check these guys out. You have to, you know, go connect with them on socials when the sait gets finished. You gotta buy their merch because bands do not survive today without merch. And you can't listen to my show unless you buy banned merch of every band that's on my show period. There's a message on Instagram. If you listen to anything and you particularly enjoy it, shoot as a message and we'll definitely get back to you. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, just drop a message, you'll get it. The website is not sorw it, but we'll we'll saw it out. It will be soon, very soon. Yeah, nice, hopefully. Yeah, let's hope. So right crossed regardless you got, are fucking gonna kill it at Bloodstock. I'm so bummed I'm not going to get.

48:03 To see it. And uh year, but this way, yeah, next year when you play there again, and then next year you can come over the States and play all these other festivals over here too. That honestly sounds insane. I'd love that. Let's do it well. Thanks guys, thank you for being on the Adventures pipe Man. Thank you mate, cheers, thanks your time, Thanks thanks for having those anytime. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man. I'm w for c u I Radio.