Pipeman Interviews St. Lucia at Bourbon & Beyond 2025

0:04 Hi, you love Larnt. Yes, that's true. For see why for you. Your this it's pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio and now I'm here. With Patty and Jean from the band Saint Lucia. Nice. Yes, and I love your look. Oh, thank you? Whose idea is it? It must be yours? No, actually we worked with a friend of ours. I'm trying to say, man, it was say she told you.

0:46 It was a collaboration with Xander ferred a friend of ours and us basically, And I love it because I don't have to worry about what to wear. Isn't that c Yes, it's like ten minutes to showtime, No no worries. We have her a red and a wye outfits of the only decision is red or white? And what picked red today? We wore white yesterday. There it is. I love it. The white sweaty so yeah. That one that's to get recycled exactly. But I love the look though. It's so cool, not literally though, like how do you play and perform in this heat? In that especially him? You're gonna be hot, You're gonna sweat, and it doesn't matter what I wear. I'm gonna be completely drenched, so it might as well be drenched in a towel.

1:28 There you go. I love it. And you know, when you're up on stage too and you're getting drenched, you don't really think about it because you're in the zone, and I think it just propels you even more. Oh, this is my favorite part about a show. Get sweaty and like, go love it. That's you're the second artist this week and has said the exact words like they want to be sweaty up in stage. I think if you're not sweaty, something's wrong. You're standing still and playing a studio album on the stage. I think the only show we ever played where I didn't sweat was we played snow Globe Festival in Lake Tahoe once and it was like negative ten degrees. Celsius or something. How are you playing that?

2:09 We could My hands were frozen. I kept on There was like a heater like with fire, like spitting fire behind me, and I kept putting my hands in the heater because my hands were they wouldn't move. I was like, I know, my hands on the keyboard have to change right now, but it's not doing it. So I would like stick them in the fire and then come back out. It was insane, actually, yeah, pretty brutal. So tell me about your part two, newest part of your double album Masterpiece. All right, I'll do my best. So yeah. So we're in the process of releasing a double album. We released we released it separately, the two parts of it. The first part came out earlier this year. The second part is coming out at the end of this year.

2:50 The first part is more influenced by the sixties and seventies, a bit more kind of indie psychedelic kind of thing. It's called Fatimokhanda Dawn. The second one is called Fatimaghanda Dusk and is more a kind of exploration of dance music and pop music. See. I love that, And that's what I was saying before your double album Masterpiece, Part two of your double album Masterpiece, and I love how you had part one as Dawn and part. Two as Dusk. I just thought it was brilliant. Thank you, appreciate that. But now I think it's even more brilliant that it's like almost two separate genres. Yes, because I just don't like how artists are boxed into a genre like thank you artist expression and it shouldn't. You shouldn't be limited to what kind of music you can play.

3:39 Totally. I totally agree. I think there's a lot of artists that I like who do the same thing over and over. I think that's a skill in a way. But I do think like there's an overrepresentation right now of artists that that really sound the same or very similar across the discography, because I think it's easier for the algorithm to understand that music and to know who to recommend that too and what plays to put it on. And I think we love what we do. We're very proud of it, but I think it's it is harder for these kind of like technological AI systems to just know where to put on music because it's I think there is a joining line through all of it. I think there is a certain sound to it, but it is pretty different, like you said, But that's not. Why we do it, you know what I mean? Like it comes like for me, it's just you have a certain time. I always call it the time capsule.

4:25 You have your creative for that period of time, and whatever. Comes out is put in this time capsule. And that's what's so beautiful about it, and like maybe one year something comes out, in the next year is something completely different, and ten years later it's something completely different again. So I think that's the beauty of art and music in general, that you can capture what is there at the time. Well you know why that makes so much sense? Okay, So I have my favorite types of music, but as a listener, we all listen to different music depending on what mood we're in, what vibe we want at that moment in time. So it's like, why should an artist be boxed in too, And why wouldn't you want as you're evolving as an artist to just test your limits, Like you were saying, artists like do the same thing over and over again, I would be bored.

5:15 Even if I love. The music, I would be bored because I wouldn't want to try something different. Perfect example is a band that's headlined next week at the same venue at Louder than Life called Bring Me to Horizon. They've gotten a lot of flak. Lately because of all the type of music they've been putting out for the past few years, and all the gatekeepers were like, you're supposed to be a deathcore band, not a pop band, not an electronic band no of this and only the lead singer. He In an interview, he said, why do I want to write the same song over and over again? Yeah, and that's brilliant. It goes back to Dylan bringing out the electric guitar and just people thinking that like artists cater to them.

5:57 But the reason you actually like an artist is not because they're catering. It's because they show you something you never thought you even wanted. That's I think we were all here to do for better or worse and risking our asses. Like just being artists in this day and age is because it's a way of exploring yourself. Like there's things I'm probably gonna write that I would never think I was gonna write, and those, to me are always like the best ideas, of the best Eureka moments is when something arrives and you're just like, WHOA, this feels completely outside of anything I ever thought i'd write. And that shows the elements of personal growth as well. I think I was gonna hit on that what you just said, because that is what it is personal growth. If you never grow out of that box, there is no personal growth. So you know, kudos and look at Okay, we're getting deep, man, I know it's getting pretty pretty deeper.

6:44 Maybe this age like that's where what happens. I know, I love it. I know right Well, look at Azsie Okay, yeah, when I started listening at Ozzie a million years ago. Would I have ever contemplate that he would have done a with Elton John No? Would I have ever contemplated posts Malone? No? Yeah, and he did both recently. It's like those are two different spectrums and he did well. He did collapse with a lot. I think it's an artist. You just got to be you totally. And we were talking before about the algorithms, but was it really different before the algorithms. Record labels used to it too. Record labels were always well what genre are you?

7:26 Oh? I play all kinds of genre. No, you can't say that you can't do that, and why can't you? Yeah? I know. Fuck. It does make it more difficult for the marketing person, but I don't care. It's just like, that's just not art. If you're doing it for the marketing, it's just not that different. No that, And I am a big believer, especially as somebody that sat with bands in the eighties. While they were signed with record labels telling them how to do their music. I'm like, I think the business people need to be there because that's how you get somewhere. But they need to stay to business people in the artist need to stay to artists. Yeah, and that's where I think that's where you draw the line. Artists should be have total creative control. That doesn't mean you don't get advice from other artists like producers and stuff like that.

8:14 But the business people they don't know the art, they know the business. That's my opinion. Yeah, I totally agree. And the thing is, artists have a tendency to go against what people in suits tell them to do. So we're like, we're children. We're basically children because our children are the same, right, Like, don't do that, don't pull the middle finger. What are they doing? You tell them that, I tell them, they just want to do it, And so I think it's the same with artists. And I think, yeah, I think you're right. So we're not old, we're big babies. There it is. Yes, see, that's better. I think that's better. Look at Ringo Storry yesterday. I was amazement. He's in his mid eighties and he was doing jumping jacks on stage and running around the stage amazing. Never know, like, and I think that's what happens when you really really enjoy expressing your art.

9:05 Maybe it literally gives you life. Yeah, told that she gives you life. Yeah, So when did this all happen? When did you decide? What was it that made you decide to go this route? Both of you? You mean, like in general with Saint Lucia. Which and it's not the outfit but music in Oh, we've been dating for a long time and being together for a long time. So twenty three years. Yeah, we met at school, right, I didn't even make it twenty three years with two wa Well, this is us. We met at school and then actually, for the longest time, we kind of we tried to avoid working together because everybody tells you it's bad for you, it's bad for business, bad for what I know. And then at one point we got to the point, because we're working together all the time, we just said fuck it, and then things started happening once we embraced that.

9:54 So that's great. It's been a while. I have this viewpoint. You hear it all the time. I'd never work with my spouse I want to spend that much time. Then you're with the wrong person, like when you want to be with them all the time, and especially in music, why would you want to be with somebody, Well, they're on the road and maybe you're on the road too, but separately when you could do it together. I know. And now we've expanded, So now we've got two little ones too, and they're on the road with us too. We're just growing. I love it. And then they could be the next generation. Yeah, we'll put them, We'll put them in there. Have they shown interest yet?

10:35 Like musically, Indy our first one. He's very musical. Charlie I think needs to have a drum kit and then he just needs to bang on stuff right now. But who knows, Like we're not boring. Charlie's a lefty Charlie's eyes. He's a lefty who was born on Friday the thirteenth. Wow, I know. And what's the other weird thing about him? There's some other weird thing about him. We love him And whenever he counts, he skips the number thirteen. I don't know. So I think he's an interesting case and. I think he's he will surprise us all. Yeah, he'll surprise us all. But we are not music. We are not forcing anything down their throats. I love that too. We just have music around. We have an open door in the studio. They come in, they play stuff, they do, They can do whatever they want and if they show interest, like I think I want to sit down with Indian do a bit more like piano and stuff. But I never like want him to like miss out on the love of it, you know.

11:26 So and if you force them, yeah, they're not going to have fun with him. You happen or game. Exactly will yeah, and they're always surrounded by it, so we'll see where that goes. There, you go, I might just make him become a business person though I don't know, yeah exactly. I was like, do the numbers please. Right, Okay, So tell everybody how they can reach out to you guys on socials on the web. Buy your merch because they can't listen to my show unless say, buy your merch because that's how you get the next gig, and that's how you. Can feed the kids at these festivals too. True. Yeah, we were pretty early on the social media. Bandwagons are Instagram. Our main thing is Instagram. Still, like we never really super got into the TikTok thing. But our Instagram is just at Saint Lucia one word St l u c I a website for merch. I mean it's just www dot St. Lucia, New York dot com and all the merches on there. And you can also buy via Spotify. I think it's like on, but preferctly go to our actual.

12:22 Store, I say so, yeah, but we're all over. On YouTuber when all the platforms we're out there nice. Yes, definitely go buy their album on their site, yes, because otherwise they don't even get enough to get one of those butt little round bubble gums in the. Bubble protion exactly. Yeah, so have a million streams and you could buy a half a gumball. Yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy. It's stupid. Who would have known that Lars was right when when everybody was complaining because he complained about Napster Here we are. Did you hear about this new podc cost startup, This AI podcast startup that's aiming aiming to produce like a thousand podcast episodes per day with AI and have like AI personalities, and it costs them like one dollar per episode so no matter what happens, it's a win.

13:16 For them, and I think it sucks. Yeah, me too. I didn't even why would you listen to that? Why would anyone. And the whole there's artists out there creating music with AI. You're not an artist if you're creating music with AI. I know I want the real thing me too. And let's go back to rock and roll. No doubt, that's what we need right there. Let's get sweaty. That's it. And getting sweaty right. Now, I know, I know you could definitely get sway in Louisville. So but anyway, do you have any final words you want to leave the listeners with. No, we're just very excited to play here in Louisville again. It's been a while also, I think we're here for Forkshool Festival. Like years ago, did we play our own show here? I can't remember. We've been doing this a long time.

13:58 Things I know, right that they all swirl in your head. Yeah exactly, But no, we're just very happy to be here playing at festival with our band and the people we love and. Have the kids here. We just feel very blessed. It's great. Well, we're blessed to have you and thanks for being on the adventures of pipe Man here at Bourban beyond. Thanks for having us Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man on w for CUI Radio.