Pipeman Interviews Mabilene at Bourbon & Beyond 2025

0:04 Hey, you love them too, Yes, that's true. W for see why for you your. This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four C Y Radio and I'm here with Maybelene. Yes, you're at Bourbon and Beyond. What do you think of this festival now that you've been here a couple of days. I think it's pretty incredible, Like what they're able to pull off. I think this is one of the best lineups I've ever seen on a bill. Like I to read a. Lineup and be like, I don't know how I'm going to see everybody that I want to see and play a set, it's pretty incredible.

0:49 I'm pretty upset because I'm here all day. I'm like, okay, this set set, okay, on this set set, and. It's like I had a whole list and they're all like falling. Away, that's what happens. And I'm looking at your cowboy boots today. Yeah, and I have a different thing that I was going to say yesterday you had the badass cowboy bearry yeah, and now these are badass too, Like I'd hate to see your closet and how many badass cowboy boots you got. I do like collecting bad ass. I'm from Texas originally, you bring Texas to a festival, She's gonna make it sparkle. No doubt. Yeah, and you definitely do that for sure. Thank you.

1:30 So what was it that started this journey for you? What was that moment when you're like, yeah, this is what I need to do. Well, I'll tell you, because I don't remember a moment I wasn't doing this. Like, my first memories are of music. It's my mama singing You are My Sunshine, It's my dad's records. But there was a time in college when I had a memory of being at a Berry Manilow concert and I called my mom and I was like, did you take me to see Barry Manelow when I was three? Like what the f And she goes, no, you insisted you heard an advertise and advertisement on the radio, and you wouldn't shut up until we got tickets to see Barry Manlow.

2:11 And I was like, and then I remembered. I was like, oh, I was obsessed. So I just and he's croonery storyteller, and I was just mesmerized by sparkle and singing, and so I just it must be in the blood of the DNA. It must be at that age that you even remember. I can't remember shit from three. Yeah, they're all music memories, and they say it's a different part of our brain. But I have a lot of early memories with music. And it is part of your brain and dedication because I absolutely love music. Yeah, but I played drums for nine years, I played guitar, and I sucked at both. And there's only reason one reason I sucked at both because I didn't put in the same dedication that is needed.

2:54 And like there's a difference of having passion for listening to music and the passion for creating it. Yeah, that's a whole different level, I think. Yeah, like I liked. The idea of playing an instrument, but I didn't like the idea of playing all the work in it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I'm kind of like doing anyways, because even if you're not going to become a creator or become a performer, I think what it does for your soul to play music. Before this industry, when people just sit around a porch like it was part of it was almost like a religion. It was spiritual, and I think that there's something to be gained no matter how good you think you are or aren't in just picking up an instrument and giving it some time.

3:35 I agree because it's like, so several years back, I was doing Welcome to Rockville, which is another Danny Wimmer festival. Oh cool, And at the end. Of the night, we went back to that house I was staying at with this girl and friends with and one of the bands came with us and we sat out on that front porch in Jacksonville, Florida. Yeah, like just jamming heavenly right. We just left the festival, so it wasn't a structure, wasn't. It's just like you said that, there's something soulful about it. There's something that it just digs deep inside and makes you feel good. I remember that moment so well because those are my favorite moments.

4:16 Yeah, And like you said, you know, it's relative because like I play parts, I write on a guitar, but I have a lot of friends in the bluegrass world, and the way they can jam, that's when I sit there and I'm like, I'm not good because like that type of versatility where they can just hear a song and. Just jump in. That's what Mesmeri says to me, and that's what they do. They just get together and they jam and it's magic exactly. I mean that that's really where it starts, isn't it. And sometimes artists still love doing that a lot of times. Yeah, if they can do that, it's a whole nother world than playing a festival. Yeah, they're just doing that to have a good time and therapy. Yeah. Music, I always say music's the best therapy. I actually have a solution to so all the world's problems.

5:01 I am buying it. I'm buying what you're selling. Okay, we're gonna have a music festival that's for the whole world. Everybody's required to attend, from right, left, whatever race, whatever color, whatever, sexuality, just everybody. And from doing festivals so much, what I find that will do is unite us all back together and we can all love each other again, because that's what happens at a music festival like Bourbon and beyond. I agree, you're speaking my language one hundred percent. That's what I write about all the time. I have multiple songs they're just this only love. It's only love. It'll see us through. Yeah, and you know it's even true with what's going on right now. So if we showed more love and compassion towards the people we least want to, Yeah, they'll become better in your own eyes because you'll find that when you're gaining attagged or whatever, you're not gonna listen to the other of whoever it is. Yeah, the way they listen is when you don't judge, and when you listen to them as well, and you just accept each other of coming from different places and why you have the thought processes you do.

6:16 You just set up for the last song I played in my set today, it's called the Other Side. And that's the whole point. I think love encourages curiosity, and I find that when I really listen to people like that's what you get back down to is love. You can almost always build a bridge between It's such a small portion of people that really have hate in their hearts and most of us and they need love too, But most of us, we can get to the same page fast than you'd think if we're curious and compassionate and loving, and if we don't jump to immediate conclusions about people. No soub and if we don't let other people tell us what to think. About or be guided by fear, no doubt. Yeah, and perfect example of a story that happened to me.

7:00 So I'm a Jew and I was forced to be a very small, confined job with a neo Nazi for real. Wow, And instead of hating and instead of angry, instead of whatever else you would normally feel in that situation, I just thought to myself, you know what, let me show him that I'm not as bad as what he was brainwashed to think, and let me ask him some questions of why he thinks I'm. So evil as a Jew? Whoa, and then show him that those things aren't true, that the people that told them those things were just making that crap up. And because of that, he did change his viewpoints because I didn't use.

7:46 Violence, I didn't use anger. I used love and. Understanding, because we all have these thought processes that come from somewhere, Like you look at kids don't have hate till we teach them hate. And so I think that's what we need to do more, is like sit down with the people we would least want to sit down with and find out why they think the way they do, and explain to them why we think the way we do. And maybe we could understand each other and learn to love each other for our differences, not just our similarities one hundred percent. And we don't know what people are walking with, what they're carrying, what they've been taught and told, like so much of growing your heart is unlearning things that Huy people taught you to protect you or to make you more like them, just your tribe, these like tribal beliefs and getting out of them. Not only can you build bridges, but you feel freer. Your heart expands, Like who doesn't want that? Who doesn't feel good when that happens?

8:40 I do. I always can't understand nowadays all the people that are so like angry on social media, and like, do you enjoy feeling like that? Like little dopamine hits. It's little dopamine hits. I think attention. I think it's I think it's that like they need a new way. I do think it becomes a dick. I think if you can drum up some noise and the algorithm is pushing it and you're seeing numbers you're seeing, I think that someone can get a little possessed by that, and so yeah, you know, pull them back though. That's why we need to go back to those porch. Yeah. Sometimes. My youngest daughter one day I was talking around, going some days I just want to drive down the road or my computer, my laptop and my computer, my phone and my iPad out the window and keep driving. She goes, Dad, who you kidd and you're just as addicted as everybody.

9:34 I'm like, you're exactly right. But I also lived in time when we didn't have it. It was a lot better. And those times were when we just sat down on the porch and had conversations. And yeah, we could have conversations with people from all walks of life. Yeah, I learn from them, Yeah. Instead of avoiding them, learn from people that are different. Yeah. And I feel like the cross generations, we learn to appreciate other things because my brain likes to get on these rabbit holes. And I'm like, but what about before the moving picture? What about before the talking picture? Like all of these things must have seemed or the printing press, like the world has changed so many times, and so it's just I think about getting back to values, right, And I think that why this festival is amazing, why live music is amazing, is that I think we're being taught to value it more.

10:19 I think while people. Spend so much time in their phones, like, there's gonna be some real currency behind live performance. People who can really put it on it, can really bring it, can really communicate with their music because I think there's just gonna be a hunger for it. The more into AI and our devices we get, especially if we don't know what's real on there, you're gonna want to be sitting in front of a person having a real experience. So I'm just like, I'm gonna I'm just gonna keep my heart open, positive vibes, love where I can. I love that, and I love that you're spreading that message in your music, because thank you. It's needed. Like all those people out there, I say, I've been telling you this a lot late late at think that singers, artists should not use that stage as your pulpit.

11:08 Yeah, they're the exact people that should. Yeah, because listen, why do you write music to get stuff out of you? Besides all the. Other reasons you get enter your own therapy, But then we get therapy listening to it, watching it, experiencing it. Yeah, And you know what, there are important things to be said, and I think they're said a lot nicer when they're in a song. Yeah. Yeah, And I love when it's put into the music. And if it's and if it's somebody who just gets a stage and wants to say something, I'm like, whether or not I even agree with it, I'm like, if that's what's in your heart, do what's in your heart. And if you're. Watching somebody do that and you feel like it's not what they should be doing in that moment, Okay, have your opinion, but you go do what's in your heart too, and have it be guided by love. Because we could spend so much time picking up the things about who people are, what they do that we don't love.

12:04 But what a distraction from the light that's in you and it. Does even affect you like most people spend all that time. I have affector life in any way or form, Like, why are you worried about this? You have no stake in it? Yeah. And the fact of the matter is, what's the definition of an artist? Somebody that expresses themselves. So how can you say they don't have a pulpit? Yeah, that's their job is to express Yeah. So how do people reach out to you on webs socials by your merch, get your music, all that stuff. So I have a website. It's mabeling music dot com and that's MA B I L E N E. I have made the mistake myself multiple times, so even when I spelled them, like did I get it right?

12:49 That's funny. Yeah. And the Instagram is miss Mabeling, but that's MS dot mabeling, So those are great places to reach out. All my merch is on my website. I post shows there whenever I book them. There's a contact form if anybody just wants to shoot me a message and say hi, Like, I love hearing from people, so that's always a gift. I love that and you rock and I definitely nobody can listen to my show anymore. And let's say, buy your merch. I love it. It's how we make money, that music license things, why you get to the next gig. Yeah, it's great. It really helps, it really does help. I love it. Yeah, Well, we love you, We love that you're here at Bourban. Beyond you so much.

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