Doobie Talks Early Inspirations, Food Truths, Metal Legends at Aftershock 2026

0:04 Hey, you're listening to The Adventure. And I'm Pudlin. On W4CY Radio. This is the Pipe Man here on The Adventure's Pipe Man W4CY Radio. And I'm here with... Doobie! Yes! So... Is it Scooby-Doo? Is it the Doobie Brothers? Never mind, I don't even fucking want to know. I'm just joking because I never ask that band name shit, okay? I don't even fucking give a fuck and it doesn't matter. What I do want to know is what was that one moment in time that you knew Doobie was what you had to do?

0:54 I mean, I guess we were just sitting in the studio one day, me and my brother. And I had a different artist name. Let's just say it wasn't as cool. And so we found it. I had another nickname or whatever. I was like, well, people call me E-Doobie because my first name is Eric. And my last name is William. So E-Dub was the little nickname. And he's like, ah, that sucks. I was like, well, some people call me E-Doobie. He's like, nah, just Doobie. Like, okay, that works. That's pretty cool. So what was it that prompted you to do music and to make music your life? My mom. My mom was always, like, touring with bands and stuff.

1:34 You know, Merch Girl, probably something else. So she used to always just have me around all the rock and metal guys as a kid, and it was easy to sell the dream from that. Just watching them guys kill it, it was just like, yep, I want to do that. I was on stage for Sublime the other day, It was so cool because they have this inflatable dog and there was a kid sitting right in between the dog's legs watching the show. I'm like, that's pretty fucking cool. Their show was killer at Louder, too. They had a nice set. Yeah, yeah. They had here, I don't remember if they did at Louder, but they had like a skateboard ramp, so some dude was skateboarding on the stage.

2:14 Yeah, and they had the dog on stage. And the dog. Yeah. They were throwing the ball at the dog and stuff. That's what I thought was cool. I was like, okay, they're just chilling. Exactly, just having a good time. That's what it's about, right, man? Yes, sir. If you're not having a good time, how are we having a good time? Right. You know, that's what it's all about. Like, there's some people maybe take themselves a little too seriously, which is fine on an album. But on a live show? Yeah, have fun. Just have a good time. Because, listen, if you're not having fun doing your live show... I don't know what you're going to have fun in in this business because the rest of it kind of sucks. Yeah. You know, that's the bonus, getting to do the live show, you know? So, what was the first concert you were at?

2:56 That I ever seen? Yeah. My first, very first concert was Kiss. Nice. And for the longest, my mom had kept, like, confetti from the end of the show or whatever. Yeah. And, like. this little baggie or whatever i don't even know if she still has it but i was so young i barely remember it but um that was the first concert the most memorable one though um my mom used to tour with uh drowning pool seven dust so seeing those guys a handful of times was just like it i was like yeah. I was just hanging with Dry and Pool yesterday. Ryan's such a great guy.

3:37 Ryan and CJ, they are like the coolest dudes. Ryan and my mom are good friends. Because he was with Soil. Yeah, exactly. I was always at their shows. My mom actually has Soil tatted on her. Really? Yeah, because her and Ryan were really good friends and stuff. All them guys, Adam, all of them. Oh, yeah. I love them. I love talking to them every time because we just have a good time. Yeah. And I'm glad Ryan's singing for Johnny Poole. It just made sense. He does a great job. He's a killer singer. No doubt. And so, like, to your kiss point, first album I ever owned in my life, I won at the Jersey Shore in Seaside Heights.

4:19 Oh, shit. A Carney game. I looked up and they had this album with these four dudes in makeup. And I'm like, that's what I want. It was the first Kiss album when it first came out. That's badass. I won it. I had a carny game. And that's why I'm here today. If it weren't for that album. I think Kiss started a lot for a lot of artists, especially in this genre. Yeah. I mean, pioneers. 100%. I don't think there's many people in the business now that wouldn't look to them as one of their, you know, idols. Of course. You know? A hundred percent. What's your favorite part about being a musician?

5:02 Traveling the world. You get to, you know, if I wasn't doing this, I'd probably just be at home working a regular job. Yeah. Regular, you know, caught up in the glitch of the matrix, you know. No doubt. I like being able to travel the world, see things in person, not just, like, on a phone or a textbook or whatever the case may be. It's different in person. I travel the world, and, like, there's times I've gone to places and I'm like, yeah, that's not what the pictures were showing. Yeah. You know, and that could go either way, better or worse. Right. You know, and I think what's cool about musicians getting to do that is the fact that I think everybody should travel to other countries and other cultures and They might get a better understanding than what they see on social media or the TV. Oh, yeah.

5:47 Especially, like, I mean, the food thing, right? Like, in America, I don't think. Americans care about Americans because it's like they're trying to poison you with everything. Then you go overseas and it's, like, illegal to do all the things that we're doing. We were just talking about that, man. Like, so another media person here on Friends, what she was talking about, she ate something, the pizza that we have in here yesterday, and, like, oh, the gluten doesn't agree with me. I'm like, then you need to go to Italy because the only reason the gluten's a problem here is the GMO and the poison they put in it. You can eat the same shit in Europe, and it doesn't bother you. It doesn't bother you. Also, like, the Coca-Cola.

6:27 Like, I would have 12 of them, and we'd go walk three miles, and I wouldn't feel groggy at all. And I'm like, if this was, you know, in the States, one Coca-Cola out in this heat, I'm dust. No doubt. I'll tell you what was interesting to me. A couple years ago, I was living in the Netherlands for, like, three months. I love the Netherlands. Oh, I love that. I go, like, all the time. And one of my favorite cereals in the world, I can't eat in America anymore, is Cocoa Puffs. Too much fucking sugar. Wait. Wait, you're saying there's not in America anymore? No, I'm saying I can't eat it anymore because, like, I have diabetes. I reverse it with just food, no fucking meds. I hate big pharma. But you read the label Cocoa Puffs. It's got 10 million ingredients that most people can't pronounce. It's got like 58 grams of sugar.

7:25 It's just pure junk. Yeah. In the Netherlands, I found Cocoa Puffs in the store. Three grams of sugar, three ingredients. That's how the Coca-Cola was in the Netherlands. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, why do we have to put all this shit? Ever since I started looking at labels... Like, why the fuck are they putting that? Why is there sugar in my frozen broccoli? Yeah. Well, now the new thing is the lab-grown meat. Oh, my God. And it's fucking flooding the shelves, which I think is just complete bullshit. And people are like, yeah, cool. They don't care. Do we hate each other? Oh, my God. And there's a lot of shit like that. You know, tilapia is not even a real fish. Yeah, yeah.

8:07 Like, what the fuck? What's the other one that we eat? Fuck. I can't even think of it right now. But half the shit that we eat isn't real. No. It's all fake. It's all mad science. You know? And they pretend like they're using natural ingredients. They're not. Like, I have a trivia question for you. When it says on the ingredients, natural flavoring, do you know what that is? Yeah, they're putting the flavoring in like the fake shit. MSG. MSG. The shit that was illegal. That's what we're looking for. It was illegal, but now they call it natural flavoring. It's okay. They just want us to be sick. Well, that's a repeat customer, man. Why should we get better?

8:48 They'd lose business. Yeah. It's stupid. That's why we need music. Yeah. Because music is the ultimate medicine. I agree. You know? And, like, I think we're losing that, too, like taking arts out of school. Like, what is up with that? Like, we're the only country that takes arts out of school. Yeah, and you know what's crazy? I seen a post on, I think, Instagram the other day, and it was about how the world is losing its color, right? Everything back in the day was so bright and colorful, and now you look around, everything's boring. There's no color. Nothing's popping out. Back in the day, you'd have these teal cars and bright yellow red cars, and now they're all Tesla black Cybertrucks and shit.

9:32 Oh, my God. Those Cybertrucks are stupid looking. They are. I like those better than the other Teslas, but they are not the best looking. I mean, I haven't seen the inside, but just seeing them drive around, I'm like, That's the world. Are we going into a military campaign with that vehicle? I wouldn't be surprised if next year they flew. Oh, no doubt about it. No doubt about it. Cyberplane. So I find the same with music, too. That's what I like about you guys. because like a lot of metal music now is like I call it like an algebraic equation to make music like that. There's a lot of bands that sound exactly the same because they're using the same formula. That wasn't the case back in the 80s. No.

10:15 Well, that's also the shitty part about the times we're living in. Now, artists will go in the studio and literally be like, hey, I want to make a Kiss song. You know what I'm saying? Rather than just being like... Do your own thing. Back in the day, it wasn't cool to rip off, you know. What I'm saying? No, metal was experimental, man. You did something different. It was new. It wasn't the same thing. As a matter of fact, here's my battle vest. Hey, your battle vest. From the 80s. Wow. This is from the 80s? Yeah, I can't even wear that shit anymore. That's crazy. So, pick off their... Like, I drew all that shit on there.

10:56 Pick off there a band you would want to tour with. What'd you say? Pick off there a band you would want to tour with. Oh, I mean, obviously, Metallica was a no-brainer there. There you go. Slayer didn't even have patches yet, so I had to do this. That's crazy. And in L.A., people thought I was a gangbanger, and that was my gang name because I would wear this shit. Unless that's the original Exodus logo. That's the one from the beginning. That's dope. And then we have Dark Angel over here, which Gene just played with Death Clock last night here at Aftershock. That's crazy, though, that you still have this.

11:38 It's been through some wars, as you can tell. You can tell I'm a metalhead. Well, Misfits, Exploited. So what's your favorite concert you've ever been to? So, first I'll tell you one that was the most impactful. I was born in New York, grew up in Jersey until I was 12 years old, and my dad came up to me in 1980 and said, pack your bags, we're moving to California, you can't tell a living soul. And I was pissed. I wouldn't be sitting here right now if it weren't for that, though. And my first club show ever in my life Was at the Roxy on the Sunset Strip.

12:23 Don't tell me, Motley Crue. It was. God, that's cool as fuck. Before they had an album, they were horror punk. They weren't even glam yet. And so then I was at that show and they tried to light the whole Roxy on fire to bring Satan in. And I was like, I'm never going to a real concert ever again. And then I walked up with them to the Rainbow to hang out and party with them and Ron Jeremy and fucking Lemmy. Lemmy. Yeah. Rest in peace. Oh, yeah. The GOAT, man. What a dude. What a dude. I mean, that's all you can say. He was a guy. What a dude, man. Badass.

13:04 If you put rock star in the dictionary, it's his picture. Oh, a thousand percent. You know, that's... Like, it's not these people that, like, ooh, I'm a rock star. Lemmy never thought he was a rock star. He didn't think he was anything special, and that's what made him a fucking rock star. Yeah. You know? He was just real as could be. And that's what we need, a resurgence back. Music that's real as can be. That's why I like you guys. Thank you. And so to answer your question, the best, that's tough. I'm sure you've seen a lot of good. There's been thousands of them. I would say the best only because it was a once-in-a-lifetime experience I could never experience again was Ozzy with Randy Rhoads.

13:49 Wow. You've seen him with Randy Rhoads? Yep. And I made Zach Wild a little emotional at Louder Than Life because I was interviewing Zach, and I said, you know, I've seen every guitarist that played with Ozzy, including Randy, and Randy was my idol. And you're the only one out of all the guitarists that even came close and maybe even better. And I thought he was going to lose his shit when I said that to him. In a good way. That's a hell of a fucking compliment. And I mean, you're not wrong. Right? Zach is incredible. I mean, we've been talking about him all fucking day. I'm like, dude, I can't believe Zach Wild's here, dude. And playing three fucking bands. Like, how do you do that? Pantera, fucking Black Label Society, and Zach Sabbath.

14:32 Yeah. How the fuck do you do that? He's different, dude. And he's also... He's from New York, too, right? I think he might be originally... New Jersey, maybe? I can't remember. I'm pretty sure he is. I think he's an East Coast boy. But what I like about him, too, is I started off as an athlete. Okay. And that's what he did, too. I was an athlete until I found metal. Until I found metal. And I was like, this is my jam right here. What sport did you play? I played baseball, football, hockey. Fuck it. Hockey's... You got to be a different animal playing hockey. You're on ice skates, fighting people. Yeah, it's like a mosh pit on ice skates.

15:14 I would bust my ass if I tried to do that shit. I coach for my son, roller hockey and ice hockey. Roller hockey? Is that like roller blades? With the inline skates, yeah, with the roller blades. That's lit. He can skate. I can't skate. He'll say that that's harder to do the rollerblades on hockey than the ice skates because you have less mobility on the skate. The ice skate, you can dig your blade in. But you try to do that with the wheels, it won't work out too well. But yeah, so I was at Slayer's first show ever. I was at Metallica's first show ever. What the fuck, bro?

15:55 So it's I was all in that whole 80s scene. And when Slayer Metallica left L.A. to go to fucking the Bay Area, we were pissed. Because they left us with all the shit. Yeah. Because by that point, they were the only two good bands playing in L.A. So me and my bro, we would hitchhike up to the Bay Area, and then we found out what real metal shows were. Yeah. Oh, my God. Insane. I mean, I was just talking to somebody about this the other day. The fact that Metallica and Slayer, too, I mean, they're part of, what, the big three or big four or whatever you would say. I mean, you got Megadeth, what, Anthrax.

16:35 I think it's crazy how Metallica has been at the top of metal for this long. It's crazy to me because I saw him in the beginning, but what's not crazy to me is... So, like, I'm friends with some of those people in the Big Thrash. Yeah. And a lot of them always knew there was something special about Metallica. Even back when they were all sharing a floor. Yeah. Broke as shit. They knew Metallica was going to be the one. Well, and Cliff. I mean, fuck. Cliff Burton, phenomenal, and changed the game. People thought that that was a fucking guitar. Right. That was not a guitar. That was a bass, and he was just good at it.

17:17 Exactly. 100%. So, you know, like, but it's stuff like that that the reason we're here today. Yeah. A place that gets 100,000 people to come watch metal. That's what paved the way. There it is. And you're here with us. Yeah. And that's badass. Yeah, I'm thankful. Is there anything else you want to share with the listeners you got coming up or things they need to know and look out for? Man, Doobie, give them hell until you get to heaven, man. It's the latest album. Right now we're in the studio just working and new music will be on. The way soon. Nice. Will you guys rock? I'm glad you were here at Aftershock and Louder Than Life.

17:59 Thank you, brother. Thank you for being on the Adventures of Pipe Man. Appreciate you. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man on W4CY radio.