Carmine Appice - Cactus New Blues Rock Album, Temple Of Blues II - PipemanRadio Interview

0:04 Hi, you love then too, Censure w se Wow for you, Young Roy. Coming all around, Hello, Bungle and my photo. This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here with a legendary drummer from some amazing bands, and we got some great news that we're going to talk about.

0:45 So let's welcome to the show. Carmina Piece. Hello. I'm very excited because last time we talked, we were talking about, you know, the return of Cactus and Temple of Blues one, and now we have Temple Blue too, so that's pretty cool. It is cool. It took a long time to do it, like six about I took about eight eight months to put it together. I mean it was ready in December, but we waited until April Theiry because we were putting together as live Cactus show, you know, for charities, and that was April Theiry. We did the shows that I released it April third, which is less than a month ago, you know, a month ago. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody seems to love it.

1:34 Oh, I was listening to it. I think it's it's incredible. I love that version. I loved the version of every song. But I really loved a lot Purple Haze. That was pretty cool. That's pretty wild, right, I like that there one. You know, I got to understand Number one, nobody on this record or the last record, was ever in the same room together. Wow. This was all done individually and everybody's studios starting with the drums, including Purple Haze. So Purple Hayes happened by Cleopatra Records owned the rights to her vocals after she passed, so they called me and said, look, we'd like to do Melanie and Cactus together. This was before we were doing this album. And I said really. Melanie says yeah.

2:23 We got a version of Melanie's singing Purple Hayes, which is awesome. So I said, well, let me hear it. So they sent it to me, just the vocal, right, and I said, wow, that's Melanie. It's killer. I mean some of the screams she has like Jannie Chaplin, you know. And I said, yeah, we can do this. So the way we would do it is we got the tempo like whatever it was, and then we take her voice and we stretch it along the tempo to make sure it's in tempo on a click. That's the only way you could do these things studio to studio in people's houses. So once we did that, then I did drums to it right, and where the solos were going to be, we had to cut the cut the vocal, leave room for the solos and continue the vocal. So we had to edit and according to the drum arrangement that I put together, okay, And then we got my guitar player to play the guitar on it, and he put some bass on it too to make it a full demo.

3:27 So now we got her voice, drums, bass, and guitar right. And then our normal bass player, James Computer, was out of town. He couldn't do it. So we got Tony Franklin to play on it. Because Tony played with Cactus a bunch of times playing Venezuela, played in Europe, played in America, you know, so he's like a secondary Cactus bass player. And then he played on it, and then we gave it to my engineer, Pat Reagan, co producer of this album, and he mixed it and it came out fantastic, you know. And when I talk about this, I said, man, this track is a long way from the roller Skates song. Right when she streams a couple of times. It's awesome. I said, Wow, you know, we knew, we knew, Uh, Johanna Chaplain in the old days, you know, and you know what she kind of sounds like. And when she did those screams, those couple of screams, I said, man, this sounds like Janice Chaplin. Doesn't sound like Melanie, you know.

4:27 So it came out fantastic. And Ardie Gillen is our guitar player and uh a cactus and he's been with us a few years now and he's a monster. He's just a monster player. And he did the solos on that, and then we after the soul, we cut and we went to this, uh just a voice and all kinds of effects, you know, you know I'm talking about, yeah totally, and then it comes back in then it ends with her. I go a psychedelic you know, love it. Jimmy would have loved it. And I want to know too, what was it like to be around people like Janice Joplin, Jimmy Hendrix like that that.

5:12 You know, back in those days, it wasn't a business yet, you know, yeah, it really wasn't. Led Zeppelin Vanilla Fash left Zeppelin four fifty cents, Come on, that's ridiculous. But it was, you know, like it was just hang out. There's just people, musicians hanging out talking about stuff and hanging out playing blues. And you know, Hendry, I knew Hendrix before he was Jimmy Hendrix. It was Jimmy James and played clubs together in New York Nice. We would play sets like thirty minutes eation midnight. They would play records and we'd have an hour and we go up to in the city who played the West Side in those days if you have a sort of movie panic and Needle Park, you know, and then that area which is now very exclusive, high end. My wife had an apartment.

6:00 It we just sold. It was a fortune to sell it, you know. And in those days was it was junk. It was people junk on you know, junk junkies. It was hookers, it was it was pimps, all that stuff. And we went over in the middle of the show, we had an hour off. We went up to some Black Prosecutes apartment, smoking some pot. Jimmy would say, Oh man, I gotta make it. I want to make it out of here. I want to make it for me. I didn't care if I made it. I was making I want to make a living like my drum teacher out and I said, you know, a little house in Brooklyn, we had a drum room, we had a Cadillac. I said, that's living, you know, right, And we played it get together a lot, you know. I think that gig we played was either two weeks or a month long. So I got to know him, and then we started making this vanilla fudge. I started seeing this guy in the press playing with his teeth and I said it was hair like that. I said, speak Tommas Games and called Jimmy Hendricks. And next time I saw him was in London and we we reminded him of that day of smoking pot talking about it, and he said, oh yeah, I remember that, because what are you doing here? I said, I play with him all the funds and I love the fudge. So it was like immediate, you know. We got backed together and we did a lot of gigs with him, and it was very timid, kind of so spoken, kind of like Prince right, you know, very introverted, you know,

7:31 until he gets on stage, you know. But he was that's a lot of people, right, a lot of musicians, you know, people like them. Yeah, they think they're the most extroverted people out there, but they're only like that on stage. Yes, I could talk to Jeff Back's same thing. Introverted. You know. Tom Sacks was not so introverted, but he was in between. You know, he was like a normal guy, you know it. Jim McCarty was a normal guy. You know, guitar players, but you know it was it was great, you know. And the one one jam with Channis Chapman.

8:11 We had Miami Pop Vessel Vanelophage headlined it and we were jamming with Johnny Winner. We're playing the blues with Johnny Winter and her singing, and after she's singing, Johnny's playing guitar and the solo. She come up to me and said, hey, drummer boys, have some of his. She stuck his bottle of my face, kicked it up and went, whoa, you know, the Southern comfort. You know, I almost fell off the drum stool. You know, she's drinking it like he's you know, we did a lot of gigs with her big brother and Vanelo Fudge. You know, there were no it wasn't a business yet, you know, just having everybody having a good time.

8:53 Yeah, I imagine there was probably a lot more camaraderie back then than now, maybe because you didn't have the interferre rants to get people like not a community. Well, there is a lot, but we I try and with these albums we try and create that. Yeah, and we did the gig. I just did an interview with the guy that was at the gig and he noticed, He said, it was such great camaraderie with all of everybody. You know. We had Billy she and Tony Franklin, Eric Gales, Pat Travis Bumblefoot, I sing from the Rod Show, Uh, Doug Pinnick all on stage. Nice and it was really fun.

9:34 Everybody had a great time. Everybody when we listed, let us know if you. Want to do it again, you know, I love that. I love fantastic. And we filmed it and we recorded it, so maybe we'll end up releasing it and giving it to a chat. We did this charity here. We gave thousands of dollars to all these different charities, you know, like Tunnel to Towers and Music Cares, Music Will, uh, Saint Jute Hospital. You know, it was great doing giving money to them, you know. And now we videoed if we get it out, whatever we make, and I was just give it to them, you know. It's it's a great feeling to help people like that, absolutely, and and everybody felt that. I mean, we sat around. We did it at this uh uh Arcadia Theater in Saint Charles.

10:20 Everybody's played there and the owner, Ron was a friend of mine. When me and Vinnie were doing Hanging and Banging podcast we had eighty five episodes during COVID. Ron was another host as the three of us, so we became really close and all. So, you know, we played his venue many times. He's always done great with it. So he had a big dinner for everybody, was like I don't know how many people. There was like a lot of people and I sat with Billy Sheen and uh, Doug Pinnic next to me. I was here and and uh it was over there was Eric As over here and his wife shows like all five of us, and we had some amazing talking. That's great, but everybody's when they grew up and what they did and how they did it, and it was amazing. And then everybody on the whole table was talking like that and it was just great. There was no attitudes, no problems. Was fantastic.

11:21 That's the way it should be. Yeah, he said, hey, Ic, we don't need you. You go hold on for a minute. Okay, he goes sit and sit down. You know, it wasn't a why what do you mean? You know what I'm saying, no attitude? Huh beautiful, they're beautiful. And when you first started, we had. Three bass players and I said, Bill, you play Tony know, you laid back on this, and James you laid back. You know. Then Tony you played. Bill, you laid back, you know, no attitudes. It's great. That's the way it should be. And when you first started Cactus, could you ever imagine that you would be putting out out a new album in twenty twenty six. I didn't even imagine I'd be around at you twenty six. Right, I'm living my eighties year right now.

12:02 It's amazing. Right. I never thought either. You know, I'm from the eighties, so I thought we were gonna just all blow up. And I wasn't even gonna make it past twelve. In the sixties were worse than the eighties. I mean it was everybody was doing drugs, LSD and uppers and Downers and well, was. It true that Jimmy used to have LSD and it's uh headband when he performed on stage. Jimmy Hendrix, Yeah. I never know that. I never heard about. That was That's something I've read before. I'm like, said, somebody created by these these writers exactly.

12:43 Like somebody just said, uh so that's something that said. Jimmy Pate said. It wasn't led Zeppelin with the mud Shock. It was led Zeppelin's uh tour manager and carminer piece. It wasn't me, you know, it was led Zeppelin, John Bonham. It was our roady, one of our roadies, John Bonham, Richie Cole, one of our roadies. And that's it. You know. Well, you know now it was my room. It was my room. I had to leave. It was so disgusting, you know. But anyway, that's what I'm seeing. These writers write things and they didn't even know what they're talking about.

13:23 Well, nowadays nobody even checks either, Like, right, you could post anything you want on social media and people take the ball and run without even check. Social media is such bullshit. All my people say posting up social media, you got a new album, post I got wine. Nobody gives a fucking social media And my proof is I do things specifically, like I put my grandson. I just had a new grandson, you know that, comments, thousand comments. Okay, then I'll put on, uh, cactus playing here, blah blah blah, two comments, and then I'll put on and I'll put on I'm thinking of changing my image my photo. You know what do you think? Eight nine hundred uh huh, fifty eight thousand people viewed it. And then I'll put on Yeah, we're playing so and so so or it album's out to comments. I said, that's all that's it's all about, is bullshit.

14:22 You know, yeah, you're not You're not wrong about. What you're doing in your career. They want to see what kind of bullshit you put up. You're not wrong all the time too. I'm dying. I stop dying my hair from black and purple to what it looks like. Now, what do you think? Tongus of comments whenever you say what do you think? Yeah, your thought? Tons of comments. Well that's like that's like with me. I had up until last year, for a while, my trademark was my hair was blue, and everybody would show up on social media every time I was getting my hair done to see what color it would be next. That was the most important thing they were looking for.

15:04 Let me see, there's not much hair there though. Now it's blonde. Oh, oh, it is blond. Oh that's why he's blond. Yeah, I'm getting a weird Yeah, that's because of they That's because I have that cool background behind me, exactly. But it's like it's going weird colors blond and blues on top of your head. Yeah, really weird. I can't tell where your hair your head is almost right. And see it's funny. At one point my hair was the color of the vinyl on your album there right. See. I had black and purple hair for years, you know, black and purple, black man. And finally, you know, like four years ago, my wife said, don't you get sick and tired of of dyeing it because it's work. Then you had to then you had to dye it blonde, and then you had to put the color and it takes six seven hours every time. I said, you know what I am tired of, So why don't you just let it go? So my hairdresser let it go. From the top down, you had she had purple in there.

16:04 Purple purple got bigger and bigger, but this purple easily washes out, so by the time it cover my whole head, we just washed it out. Yeah, and I was silver. And then my wife said, well my hairstyle and I had, so you look like maud. I said great, thank you. So she said, comb it back. So I come to back and I said, I don't like the fact it's all silver. So we started putting black streaks in it. So now I got the silver black streets. I'm going sad day to put some black streaks back because you can see from here back it's grown that long, that much, you know. Yeah, well, I love my hair. Now people love my hair. I say, ow, your hair is wonderful, it's beautiful. I love the style. You look great.

16:47 Oh you look younger. I said, wow, great. So I don't mind. It's easy to take care of me. I was just coming back. It's a lot of work the other way, right, like the I used to go on tour and I have to bring my own pillowcase and my own my own towel because I want to ruin. Any based crap towels right, totally, totally. And then like, it's funny you said about the purple because last year I was doing I'm going to Welcome the Rockville in a few days to cover that festival, and last year at that festival, I met this hairstyles she does like all the rock bands at the festival. So I had her do my hair while we were while I was doing an interview of the band she was there with and hair, Well, no, my hair is naturally like well, it's naturally all really gray, but it's naturally it used to be naturally dark. So yes, I have to go, like this color is more my color, you know. So I have to go and I have to get it bleached and then put the blue and blue on and get into it the whole process just like you describe. So she did it, and I said, do whatever you want to even care. I wasn't even paying attention. I was doing the interview and she did black, blue, pink and purple.

18:12 Oh my god. Yeah. I mean the other day I saw a young girl we were talking about for my rod show. You know, we're still figuring out the merch because there's a lot more women. The only the only shirts we have for men, there's the sex police shirts and hats that rogers. We used to run around with that and somebody had a women would go up to the hallways sex police for the second one, you know, and like, you know when you heard that coming, if you had a woman, you tell be quiet and you don't want them to bust your room up, you know. But I'm trying to figure out what what colors, you know, for women, So I said, yeah, maybe we should get a pink, uh, pink hoodie with the Rod logo on there.

18:55 That might look cool. So my merch girl says, yeah, talking to the service station, there's a young girl wearing a pink hoodie streaks of pink and her hair and blonde and blue, and it looks so cool. I told her, I said, man, you look cool. She goes your hay it look cool because thank you so much, you know. And but the pink hoodie looked great. So now we just we're testing at the Chicago show. We're doing now next week we go to three hoodies and medium lodge and extra lodge and pink with the zippa you know, with Rod the show logo here, which is like a set of lips with a guy that looks like Roger with the Mike Holden like Rod would be. You know if you go to roddshow dot com. Here I'm talking about you know anyway, So it's pretty cool.

19:44 That and that is cool. And so with this new album too, Temple Blues too, you brought back people that were in the first Temple Blues, but then you have some new additions too. I think it's cool a variety of people you have, because you have somebody like bumble Foot, somebody like Nugent, but then you have somebody like Alex Rolneck and. He was a surprise. Rudy was on the last one, but Alex was a surprised one because I had his number and I called him and I said, hey, dude, we're going to do this Cactus album. We did want to explain what it is. You know. I like you to be honest, because yeah, man, no problem, you know, and you know, when you're do an now like this, everybody has to get the same amount of money. Yeah, you can't have one guy get eight and one guy get three hundred, the other guy get two hundred. So everybody got the same money across the board, you know.

20:39 And I say, you know, favorite nations of course, we got to get releases from everybody, and after we do it, he got to sign and release, no problem. So Alex was, yeah, let's go. And then when I heard what he did, I said, oh my gosh, this guy's a freaking monster. I mean I heard him with testing it, but you hear him playing your music, you get to see how great he is, you know, because he's not in his elements. Yeah, he's out. And that's what's what a great musician is. When you can play out of your element and still be great. That's that's a sign of a great musician. I think so too, because you know, it's easy when you're doing your own element because you're used to it. It's a habit. You don't even think about it. When you got to go do something different, you really got to dig deep.

21:26 Yeah that's why you know, I do these sessions for Cleopatra. You know, I did the Hush by Deep Purple. They're doing a tribute to Hunt Purple. I did Hush, I did some other things. Now this week is did just send it? Today I'm going to do a track Crazy Train with er William Shatner. Wow, Captain Kirk is doing talking over it. Yeah. So Oh cool. I can't wait for that thing. I like doing different things. You know, I'm looking at my career if an elifuser, Cactus the BBA to Ted News' is a rock Stuart to Ozzie. You know, it's all different music, but I keep playing the same way.

22:08 But I address myself to the music. That's what makes you a great musician. Yeah, and you know it's funny. I'm going to tell you something funny. I don't know if you know this or not. You know, because our studio was in Wellington, Florida for like eighteen years, and right across the street from our studio there was a place called the Gypsies Horse. It's now some it's some Indian place now. But. There used to be this tribute show there all the time, hot Rod and It. And it would be so funny because the women from Wellington would all show up there be packed, and he would act like he really was Rod Stewart, like they were fun and all over him.

22:55 Well, we're playing the Book of Black Box my rot show June fourteenth. We're doing two shows there in one day. That show kills. That show kill, Like I said, look at the website, you know, I mean Rod. When I told Rod what we're doing, I said, everybody was calling it a tribute, and it's not a tribute with me and Catcher who played Robbed fourteen years. If you see a beautiful blonde chick on the sacks with Robbed, that was her, you know. And between her and me, we had twenty one years that we played with Rod, right, and differences. When I was with him was Rod Stewart group.

23:35 We wrote songs, I produced stuff with the background vocal at percentages of the road. It was not Rod in the group, right, we were part of it. So I tell stories in the show. We have a background video. It starts with Rob what he is, How we started, how I ended up in his band, and then she was in his band, and then you got Rob Caddle plays Rod starring Rob Caddle. As you to it, you know, it's like a show, you know, and and it's all women. We played in the villages, you know the villages. Oh yeah, totally like a twelve hundred people when we do the show, and.

24:16 Oh they're probably freaking out at the villages. They probably love love it. They love it, they love it, and we're going to video that show. I think on June fourteenth, and then we drive down here and we come at played the black Box two shows. There's three hundred. We do, like average over five hundred people everywhere we go. So we figured we can play two shows at the black Box. It's just a nice via house, really nice screen behind it. We'd be able to probably do two shows and either sell out or come close to selling boat out. That's why we decided to do it. I wanted to play the Parker Playhouse but never happened yet. But I think if we do this and we do well down here, then we can the next time to the Parker Playhouse or something like that. My friend Vito, you know, Liberty de Vito, plays there with his Billy Joel show. Okay, the show's okay, but my show is a show. You know.

25:14 They just play the songs. My show's the show. We tell stories. When we do hot legs, fire comes up from my drums. You know. We got at the end, we got everyone singing. Do you think I'm sexy? And that singing, Maggie May, I mean I guy Rob Cardle gets everybody singing, just like Rod Stewart does. I love it. That's why I'm playing with him, I feel like I'm back with Rod. So when I said Rob, the fact that we're not calling it a tribute or anything, We're calling it Rob the show, a celebration of Rob, a celebration of music and legacy of Rod Stewart. So I sent that to him and he sent back an email. I said, I'm honored. Wow, I'm honored that you're on it.

25:56 You know, I'm nice. And then and then the promotion in the background video as it comes up, it says that Rod was honored that we are doing the show, you know, so kind of endorsed by Rod. So it's way beyond like a singer. You knows every outfit Rod ever had sent. We send a picture to our said van, but do you think he looks like you? He goes, man, he looks like me. He dresses like me, and he's got real hair. It's not a week, right, And then Catre said, and he sings like you, And he does. He sings like Rod. Some people who we've video it's on the website, you know, said I saw Rod, and I saw this show and this show is better.

26:42 Wow, everybody's got to go. Then, and you also have a show coming up here in May. Yeah, May sixteenth, we got Vanilla Fudge coming in Boca black Box, and you know, and we just finished ten Days, so this is like good Night's Two weeks later, we're playing the book at black Box. We're tight. And then I got a few couple of weeks off. I'm going to the Saint Martin with my wife, and so we have a house down there she rents. So we got to go down there three four days, three four times a year. Yeah, and Peple go, oh, that's great vacation. Yeah, it's not vacation. We go down there and fix stuff.

27:22 And instead of here, I look out. I usually face the other way with my computer, but I'm doing it this way, so I have a background instead of a television, you know. Yeah. And basically I sit there and look out at a canal in a lake down there. I do the same stuff looking out at an ocean. You know. That's exactly. I mean, go out to. Eat and enjoy myself. And then once I come back from that, and then we come back on the seventh and we got the thirteenth. I go up to all whereas the villages, and then the fourteen would come down play here. And I was going to do a clinic at Jeloopes, you know Jeloupes is. I was going to do that, but I want to do it outside this and I don't want to do that, so we'll do it next time. And then I got some time off.

28:09 I think we're going to do some cactus in July and beginning August, and then then we start up again with the Rock Show in August and different things. I got my I have a bucket list thing I'm doing. It's me playing with the Colorado Springs Symphony orchest Philharmonic Orchestra, playing four rock songs and telling some stories. I love it and about that. That's like it. It be so cool. We played with. We did with my Rod Show. We did an orchestra in California, gig and my friend's son who's a musical genius is and n Myyu doing all composing and all that now And it was at sixteen. He wrote all the charts for fifty piece Orchestra, all the Rod Stewart songs that we did in the Palm Desert Symphony Orchestra with the Rod Show. It was fantastic. But this one was just me. That's my bucket list, just me, no band.

29:11 Let's make that happened. That they got. My friend that was the guy that funded the foundation that funded the Captive Show. He gave money to the Symphony Orchestra. And I've been talking to them about the Rock Show and they said, look we're doing We're doing a show called The Knights Show, the Knights meeting Paul McCartney, Nighty, Pulton, John Knighted, Rod Stewart Nighted, and I think somebody else. And they got four singers from Broadway. I'm going to be singing it, so it's going to be like a stiff up a. Look, I can't play in the suit, you know.

29:54 But I can't imagine playing drums and suit. But I used to do in the old day. If you look at the Sullivan show, I'm playing with a red velvet jacket, you know. Yeah, I can't even imagine that. It's tough enough with any clothes on. It is tough. But yeah, so a lot of good things going on. I love it. And everybody's got to check out Temple of Blues two. It's killer. I listened to the whole album and it is killer. I love it. I can't. I can't believe all these years later, you're still putting out some great music and doing great shows. So I thank you for giving me a lifetime of great music, and everybody else too, thank you.

30:37 What I refuse to do crappy music. If I'm going to do a record, it's going to be good. Any record I do, whether it sells or not, it's gonna be great. It's stuff you're probably even even heard of because they label have a DNA say, I think call up Piece, Prodomo Project. It's all instrumental with this guy, Fernando Pidomo, who's a really talented musician. He plays bass, guitar, piano or drums. And we did this instrumental and we got like Billy Shean on it and bumble Foot and Derek Sherinian on it, and it's killer. We did two records. You probably haven't heard of any of them. I did it, and now I'm gonna have to look for him. Check out this one song is called drum City Piece and Fernando and what it is. I did some paintings with a friend of mine who is an artist. He says he does like children looking on you know. So I did a bunch of artwork with him and we renamed him. So one of them is called drum City, where I drew a city out of drums while he colorized all the beautiful colored pinks and purples and everything.

31:46 So when we did the song drum City, I named the drum City and we did the video like you got that background, The whole background was all all my paintings. Wowdrum City. We did like, uh, the leaning tower of drums, drum hinged. You know, that's brilliant, the beautiful colors. And I've saw some bunch. I saw some stuff in stores in New York and everything. We did some of that, and one thing called Drumhead, which is a floor town town with a head in it, you know, the eyes and the mustache, you know, with old notes coming out of it. But it's look it up coming a piece of and ed Heck artwork, you know. So so we did the drum City video with me and him, and we animated like I had little cars and the thing. And when the editor said I can animate the cars for another four hundred dollars, I said, do it. So you got the cars are animated. You got the like a drum city Brooklyn and Manhattan, and you have a high hat is the bridge and you got you know, my my partners over there. I'm on a on top of the building somewhere and my partner's walking across the bridge. The cause of word movies.

33:06 But you're just you're amazing artists all around, musician, artist, everything. Love it, you know, and you definitely have impacted many lives. And I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you have new music and thanks for being on the indenture. Yeah, you met this girl that came to these gigs, woman in Ja Can. She's got common a piece on the menu. If you can see that, you look at that, that's pretty cool, right. So you know, I said, please take a look at my restaurant menu. You look at and drumming inspired my menu. I turned your ears into flavors. So I mean it said like heavy metal of me.

33:51 You know that's great. And then you got the menu. You know, like this here is a mustache nan It's like, must be like an Indian restaurant. You know, that's wild. And she came to the gig where guitar Zeus shirts and has another one called this one called mustache hb Man inspired from commin a piece. Wow, it's unbelievable. So so she flew in from Japan to see two Vanilla Fudge gigs. She did the VIP. First day, she comes in with all this karma and stuff on. She has a guitar zus, she has a Commine drum key, she has commin and is comin now, you know, boy, you know, I get no money for it, but it's on the internet.

34:38 And then the next day she comes with a fantastic Carmine T shirt with all different pictures of me embroidered in one picture, you know, and beautiful colors, and she had all this other stuff and she has the menu. I said, wow, she's crazy, you know, but that's what they do in Japan like this. There was a club, a nightclub, like a drinking club, when I had bands called BBA from my beck Bogean the piece it was a BD eight and club I call it, you know, amazing. Japan is amazing. But you know, they love their music over there, they. Love their music over there. It's just she was a beautiful girl. I thought she was twenty. She's like forty four years old.

35:19 Wow. And these women don't get they don't get married young over there, you know. And maybe that's why they stay looking young. I have a Japanese wife for five years. Oh really beautiful, beautiful. They know how to treat a man. Let's put it that way. Well, there you go, there you go. But yeah, but I love you know, I love it. I mean with the studio in there, I just walked through. Turn on the computers, the drums there, they never move, The emitties the same, the ac is the same, they sound the same. I can record something today, go in next week and fix it. Doesn't change sound. Engineer it myself now, you know. And then they get the drums man engineer Pat Reagan. He makes it sound fantastic. You know.

36:05 Well, the new album definitely sounds fantastic for sure. And thank you and thanks a lot for being on the adventures. And buy it so we can hit the shots again. There it is shots. Okay, they can't listen to my show unless they go out and buy it. That's right, I agree, cool man. Thanks a lot, see M sixteen, come down, come down to see the fuckfely. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of plate Man. I'm w for c u I Radio.