Becoming Erzengel: Metal, Transformation, and the Healing Power of Music at Wacken
The conversation focused on an engaging interview at Wacken Open Air with Gray from Erzengel, exploring the band's unique stage persona, musical influences, personal journey, and the powerful impact of music on both artist and audience. The discussion explored how metal and classical music intertwine, the evolution of stage identity, and the universal family spirit found within the metal community.Main Topics Covered
- Erzengel’s musical style and influences
- Inspiration and development of stage theatrics
- The transformational power of performance
- The healing and connective nature of music
- Personal stories from Gray’s musical journey
- Audience reactions and the meaning of community in metal
- Upcoming shows and ways to connect with Erzengel
- One concept discussed was the band’s striking armor and giant wings, described as a cross between Powerwolf and Rammstein, with a fantasy "Dark Angel" theme blending light and darkness 00:43, 01:35.
- The discussion explored how the character and look were not just a decision but a gradual evolution—each step leading naturally to the final Erzengel stage persona 10:08, 10:15.
- A key theme that emerged was the therapeutic value of music, for both the creator and the listener. Gray reflected on how Chester Bennington and Linkin Park’s music provided emotional support in youth, and how now Erzengel’s music has begun to uplift others in the same way 05:23, 11:25.
- Several points were raised, including the story of a fan reaching out to say Erzengel’s music brought them “light in a hard time,” giving Gray a profound sense of fulfillment 11:46.
- The performer’s transformation was discussed, with Gray explaining how putting on the costume allows shedding everyday concerns and revealing an authentic inner self onstage 07:41, 08:04.
- The conversation focused on the paradox of artists appearing extroverted on stage while often being introverted in real life, and the switch that happens when the spotlight comes on 07:17, 07:27.
- The discussion highlighted the inclusivity and family-like atmosphere at Wacken, emphasizing how music unites attendees regardless of background, culture, or language 17:30, 17:42, 17:55.
- It was noted that metal fans and performers span generations and value mutual respect and support 04:41, 04:54.
- Gray shared amusing anecdotes of accidentally slapping bandmates with his large wings on stage, reflecting the challenges and fun of elaborate costuming in small venues 12:28.
- A key theme that emerged was the continual growth and vocal development undertaken since joining Erzengel, and the immense personal rewards it brought 13:15.
- Erzengel will host their mini-festival “Erzfest” in Ludwigshafen-Modach on August 29 and perform at Seven Arts Club in Mannheim with “Die Legende von Nord” on September 26 14:43, 14:52, 15:09.
- "Think of Powerwolf and Rammstein got a child." 01:15
- "Classic is just metal without electricity." 04:40
- "Every time I'm dressing up, that’s the feeling of leaving everything I don’t have to wear now behind me." 07:41
- "Your music is bringing me up, it's lifting me up, you're bringing light to my life." 11:46
- "Music is the one language we all understand." 17:30
- "We are all one race here, the human race." 17:58
- Social Media: Facebook, TikTok, Instagram — search for “Erzengel Band” 16:02
- How to Find the Band: Translate “Archangel” into German (Erzengel) for search 16:10
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0:04 Hi, you have done to censure for see wow, for you you. This is the pipe Man here on the Inventors Pipe Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm here. With I'm Gray from out saying a nice. Here, a fucking yeah. Now, like I just like pulled you out of the United Area because you look so frecking cool. We're on audio right now, so people can't see you, so maybe you can describe what you look like. Okay, I'm wearing just a bunch of armor and huge wings.
0:47 Yeah, they are huge. And can you tell them what I asked you to do when I first met you and I was like trying to get a picture with you, like choking. Nah, yeah, I have to choke you because of why why I have to choke you? Because you look like one of those like medieval people that might want to choke me. So tell us about your band and your music. Okay, so let's see think of Power Wolf and Ramstein got a Child. Wow, that's some pretty badass music. Yeah, and how did you come up with this whole concept and what you do in your band?
1:35 Okay, the concept of arts is a little bit older than me and the band, but I focused the thing to what you're seeing, right, so the people can't see, but a dark angel looking like concept of fantasy and something a little bit between spooky. Yeah, and a light source source of light, so to say. You also look like you escaped it from escaped from wasteland. Yeah, kind of right, right right? So what does it feel like being here on Holy ground of Vacking.
2:20 Oh, every time I'm here, I'm it's feeling like coming home, coming back to the whole family. And yeah, having a very very good time here. And did your band play at back in this year? Not yet. I like the way you said that, because now we're going to put it out there in the universe that you will play next year. Oh. I like the way you say it. I like the form of universe and things stuff like that. Absolutely. So what was that moment in time in your life where you knew this is what you had to do with your life. Oh, that's I think the time I become no, no, the time my brain is working. So you know, in the like three years old, for years old, I got to sing every time, really everywhere, I'm singing, singing, singing, like I don't know. My parents always told me, ah, yoh, we heard you we know you're there because we hear singing nice. Since then, I never stopped, so.
3:26 They encouraged you. Yeah, of course. And what did they think now that you're an adult and you're doing it like this. If ever they have the time to come to the show, they will be there. See. I love that. I think that's the difference between like generations now, like in our generation and maybe before, where your parents would be like, get a real at least in America, get a real job, and I, like my dad would never come to a show with me. Yeah, but I bring my kids, my grandkids, and that's what metal's all about.
4:09 Were one big family. Yeah yeah. What was the first concert you ever went to? Ooh, that's a good question. You mean metal concert or any anything. I think that was a classical show, classical concert with a big, big orchestra. That makes sense, by the way, because metal is a derivative of classical. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, most people don't realize that. Classic is just metal without electricity. A good way of putting it. I love it. And so how long have you been doing this band?
4:52 This band since twenty twenty two? Okay, but rock and metals since I think the age of fifteen sixteen on about. What was the first album you ever owned? Oh, Lincoln Park nice hybrid theory. Nice. Have you had a chance to see Lincoln Park now? With Emily, I never saw them. You never saw them. Even with Chester, you never saw them. Huh No. Wow, what's a hard hard time for me to see Chessa leaving this planet? Yeah, because chess I got in my youth. Chessa got me a lot of possibility to to understand my feelings and control my emotions.
5:41 Isn't the music? Isn't that interesting that? Well, music is the best therapy for both you the artists, and you the listener and me the listener. But is it interesting that the people that have given the most to others in music, like your example, are the ones that maybe they didn't have anybody themselves, And you know, like, so that's why they're not on this earth anymore, because you know, they knew what you were going through, They wanted to help you, they give it to you, but then in the end they didn't have that place for themselves.
6:22 And yeah, you know, I think that's what happens too when you get big in this music business. It's like when people think, oh, you're living a dream life, but they don't really know what you're really going through. You know, there's one thing entertaining, there's an earth thing. When you're all by yourself with your thoughts. That's are two different worlds. Exactly, and I experienced it too expressed. You know, like when I'm doing this, I'm in a different zone, a different thought process than I am in real life. It's still the same me, but you know what I mean, the switch that kind of changes, and you like even before you saw I went over there with them to film something, and like as soon as they turn the camera on, I'm like, you know, yeah, the performer turns on.
7:14 That's the same to every artist on stage, I think exactly. You know, I always like to clarify that a lot of artists people think they're the extreme extroverts because of what they do, and usually it's the exact opposite. They're usually introverts. Yeah, of course, So what is it you do when you get on stage to kind of get in that zone to where it doesn't matter who's out there in the crowd. That's a little bit interesting, I think because every time I dressing up, that's the feeling of leaving everything I don't have to wear now behind me and to yeah that I'm just myself in the smallest parts of myself, So breaking every other mask or.
8:10 Behavior away from what I am in reality. That makes so much sense. I also like, for me as a radio person, as soon as a mic goes on some a lot of times, I'm exactly who I am inside my head that I'm never in real life. Like we all go through life showing different people in our life parts of us. Yeah, but nobody really knows to us inside our head. But when we're performing like you are, or I'm on the radio, it's almost like like I feel like I'm on the radio that I'm not even talking to anybody because I'm just talking to a mic. Even if I'm talking to millions of people, it doesn't occur to me. So it's like I have no inhibitions. I can just be one hundred percent me without worrying about judgment, without worrying about what other people think.
9:06 But then at the end of the day. Us as ours are probably our worst critics. You know, I can't tell you how many times I've gotten off an interview. I'm like, oh man, I sucked and They're like, man, that was a great interview. I had so much fun. Same as you as an artist. You know, you probably get off stage and you're like, oh, I messed this up. I messed that up. Yeah, of course, no way in the audience noticed. Yeah you did. They come up to you and say, well, what's a great show, the best show you ever played? And I thought, there's a hit the wrong I. I lost my microphone, I lost my Indian monitoring. Nah, don't know us for it.
9:48 So did you always have the concept of being like this in your band or in a band or was it something that something happened that you decide, Like something came in your head and you're like, oh, this is how I want to present myself on stage. Oh that was no decision. It was becoming the ads anger the Archangels. Yet to say that one step got another step, put another step in the way, and so it's it grew. It was growing up to what it is now. I totally get that because even my radio personality, it started out as one thing and then it kind of evolved. Yeah, and some of it because of situations that made it evolve, and then it kind of clicks to you, like Oh my god, this is it. Yeah, you've never I would have never thought of like the personality I am now on the radio in the beginning. If you told me that's who I would become, I probably wouldn't.
10:56 Have no, you know. And I'm sure the same with you. Like somebody went to you at fifteen and said you'd be sitting here back and doing this. Yeah, don't kidding me. Now, you're kidding me. Just yeah, go away, exactly right, right. What do you have as your goal, your ultimate goal from your music? What kind of impact do you have it wanted to have on the world? WHOA For me, the goal is the first time first Yeah, to play here, to play and vaking. That's one of my everybody's right of my dreams. But as another dream came true. I think two weeks ago, so one of our fans sent me a message. She is in a really hard time, and she told me your music is bringing me up, it's lifting me up.
11:55 You're bringing lights to my life. And that was the point. Oh, we've got goosebumps on me too. That was the point I thought, Okay, Chester, here we go. You made this for me and I now have the fucking opportunity to do it. For another person, and that's so amazing. Best feeling ever. Right. Yeah, So now I have a funny question for you. When you're up on stage the ever have you ever knocked over one of your other band members with your wings? Oh? Of course slapped them and and here you can see on my wing. Uh, let's see this whole Oh I I.
12:38 Come on the guitar. The guitar slept it away and so yeah, that's it's small stages. You have to manage your movements and. You're not really thinking usually because you're in a zone. Yeah. So unlike when we came in here, where you're conscious of where you're going. When you're on stage, you're in the zone, so you're really not thinking about it. Yeah. That's a little bit difficult. Right. So one story, good or bad in your whole musical journey, what would you pick to tell? Oh hmm, that's a hard choice, right. I think the best the best story is since I got into ads anger and I have to work my voice into it, that was a journey, a big journey, uh, And I was evolving a lot, a lot, a lot, And I think that's the best story till the moment now. Yeah, so the music gave me so much bag and the last time that all the effort is for me, it's great, it's.
13:51 It's that's amazing and it's pretty amazing. Right, It's like you evolve into this and it's almost like some light hits you and like you you we've never conceived and now you do. Yeah, you know, what else do you have up on the horizon in twenty twenty six that our listeners should know about? Sorry? What other things do you have going on in twenty twenty six that you want the listeners to know about? Ah? Okay, So we will played two more shows, that's where the dates are fixed. But they're in mannheimen Lytrics off and so I don't know if that is interesting for your listeners.
14:39 Well, my listeners are all over the world. So okay, okay. So on the twenty ninth of August we're doing our small little festival ats Fest okaytix off Motach And on the twenty what twenty sixth off September, we're on stage in the seven. Club in Mannheim with Deligain or not. So Nice And like when you're walking around out here and baking what kind of reactions do you get from people?
15:20 Mostly some kind of wow, you're looking amazing and that's good. That's a good compliment there, yea. And how does that feel when people come up to you and acknowledge that the hard work you're doing is making them feel good? I think the best feeling to say is yeah, that's right, I'm here and that is good, nice, good to be here. So do you have anything else you want to tell the listeners that we haven't covered already? Plus also tell them your website, your socials and all the ways they can connect with you.
16:02 All right, So our. Social media you can find us on Facebook, TikTok, Instagram. It's all Outsangled band. So if someone wants. To go to Google archangel translated German, so you know how to write. It right right? Thank god we have Google Translator or something like that. Now I use that to get my food tonight. That's an amazing story, right right, you. Know, you know it's funny because I did date a Germans and German women. She lives in Lincoln. I don't know if you know where that is, but to small town in Germany, and I tried to learn German to speak to her.
16:49 It's hard. It is hard, and she she told me why it's hard to She's like, we use a bunch of idioms all the time that aren't translatable, you know, So it's pretty wild. You know. I think everybody around the world should go to different countries and study different languages and study the cultures so that they could be better understanding of human beings everywhere. Oh yeah, but you know what, the one language that we all understand no matter. What it is music, that's it. That's the one.
17:33 And like when you come to a place like this, like Bakan, it makes the world's problems go away because we're one big family and there are no outsiders here, and everybody just is full of love for other human beings, no matter who they are, where you're from, what they do, what their skin color is, what their sexual orientation, it doesn't matter. We are all one race here, the human race. That's correct. And I thank you for giving us entertainment because you put smiles on people's faces and you change lives, and for that, you deserve to play Vaka next year.
18:16 It would be great, So I'm putting it out there. Yeah, and thank you for being on the Adventures of pipe man, Thank you. To having me, Thank you for listening to the adventures of Pipemin. I'm w for Cui Radio.
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