Taking Down a Podcast: The Friendship Test!
Imagine you’ve gone through all the hassle of getting your podcast guests to sign those release forms. You’re feeling pretty smug about it, right? Fast forward a few months or even years, and suddenly your guest, who apparently has turned into a drama queen, is begging you to take the interview down. What do you do? It’s a wild ride as we dive deep into this conundrum that every podcaster dreads. Sure, you’ve got the legal high ground, but is it worth throwing your relationship with that guest under the bus?
Takeaways:
- Even if guests signed a release form, they might still ask you to take down the interview later.
- Taking down an interview might save a relationship, and relationships matter in podcasting.
- Sometimes people change their minds, and it's easier to take the interview down than deal with drama.
- Being a jerk about a signed release could ruin future networking opportunities for you.
- The biggest benefit of interviews is the relationships, not just audience growth.
- It's often better to maintain good vibes than to get into a legal tug-of-war over content.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:00 - Navigating Guest Release Issues
01:16 - The Value of Relationships in Podcasting
02:09 - Meeting Jay Acunzo: A Turning Point
02:57 - The Ethics of Journalism and Relationships
04:15 - Navigating Digital Relationships
04:40 - Introducing Your Podcast Consultant
You went through all the steps to have your guests sign a release form, and now, months, maybe years later, they want you to take the interview down.
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Speaker ADave Jackson, coming to you with Morning Voice.
Speaker AI saw this question on Reddit and someone had had a guest sign a release form.
Speaker AThey think everything is fine.
Speaker AAnd then somehow something was going on with the guest and there was a legal dispute and they said, hey, can you please take that interview down now?
Speaker AYou have every right to say no, you signed a release.
Speaker ABut remember, the biggest benefit of interviews is not that they're going to show their audience your show and you're going to grow your audience that way.
Speaker AThat's nice if it happens.
Speaker ABut the biggest benefit is the relationship you have with that person.
Speaker AI'll give you a classic example.
Speaker AI was in Cleveland this weekend.
Speaker AI live in Akron, Ohio, but I was at an event in Cleveland, and I have had Katie Brinkley on my show.
Speaker AShe is a social media guru.
Speaker AShe's great.
Speaker AI consider her a friend.
Speaker AAnd she was speaking there.
Speaker AI was just attending.
Speaker AAnd so she went to a speakers only meeting.
Speaker AAnd there's a guy there named Jay Acunzo who I really like.
Speaker AHe's really into storytelling.
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Speaker AReally good guy.
Speaker ABut I've been a fan of his for years, but I've never had a chance to know him.
Speaker AAnd so Katie at this speaker's meeting was talking to Jay and basically said, oh, if you're doing anything in podcasting, I'll have to introduce you to Dave Jackson.
Speaker AThat's the true benefit of an interview.
Speaker AAnd so later, after Jay's presentation, I just happened to see him and I said, hey, Jay, great presentation.
Speaker AAnd he stopped and said, thanks so much.
Speaker AAnd we had a little bit of a talk there.
Speaker AI explained how I bought a PDF of his a while ago and we talked about storytelling.
Speaker AAnd Katie walked by and said, oh, this is happening.
Speaker AI wanted you two to meet.
Speaker AAnd so we brought Katie into the conversation for a second.
Speaker ABut that's the biggest benefit.
Speaker ANow think about this.
Speaker AIf Katie had asked me, hey, Dave, will you take down my interview?
Speaker AI've got this thing going on.
Speaker AIt would just help me if you could take that down.
Speaker AAnd I said, katie, you signed a release you lose, you get nothing.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AIs she gonna tell Jay, oh, you gotta meet Dave Jackson?
Speaker ANo, she's gonna go, that guy's a jerk.
Speaker AAnd so for me, I get the whole like, yeah, but I'm a journalist and I have the right to not pull it down.
Speaker AYeah, you do.
Speaker AAnd you also have a chance to save a relationship.
Speaker ASo for me, I would pull it down.
Speaker AIt's super easy.
Speaker AHey, Dave, I'm in the middle of this thing.
Speaker ACould you please pull it down?
Speaker AOr maybe just something has happened in the past where they said it, they don't believe this anymore.
Speaker AEspecially with jobs.
Speaker AThey're like, hey, I'm applying to get this job.
Speaker AIn the event they search for me, they might find this thing.
Speaker AOr we talked about such and such.
Speaker ACan you please pull it down?
Speaker AMy default answer, my knee jerk reaction is, sure, why?
Speaker ABecause I have hundreds and thousands of episodes.
Speaker AIt's not like, wait, you're the only interview I've ever done.
Speaker ANo, just take it down.
Speaker ASave the relationship and take it down.
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