Podcasting Gone Wrong: The Ultimate Pet Peeves List!

Today, on episode number 973 of the School of Podcasting, I asked you what are your top podcasting pet peeves as a listener?

And we ask this every year.

And the point being, are you doing these things that really, really annoy people?

Let's find out.

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And I've had a couple people ask some questions that I'm going to say this here.

Then we're going to get into Popee.

Yeah, the pet peeve stuff.

And that is, I got a lot of really good feedback on the last episode, SOP972 on Newsletters and people have asked a lot of follow up questions.

So you will hear a newsletter, part two that will include things like what tools do you use now?

Right now, I'll just give you this little tidbit.

If you're on a budget, if you're on a total budget of 0 substack, if you go up one level there, you got sendfox.

If you go up another level from that, you got Mailerlite.

And the one that I'm probably gonna end up using the most is ConvertKit, which is now known as Kit.

But we asked the question, we do this every year, what are your top podcasting pet peeves?

Cause we don't wanna do that.

And here's what you said.

Hey, SOP family, it's Steve Stewart from stevestuart Me, where I edit podcasts for personal finance podcasters.

And it's my day job and I love it and I'm so glad podcasting is here.

If you wouldn't mind giving me the time to give you two pet peeves, one as an editor and the other as a listener.

So this year I have become much more, we'll say, sensitive to people using.

And so as a crutch, they use it to bridge sentences and it's unnecessary.

I've been removing it because it takes away from the impactfulness of what they're trying to say.

I know it's a small thing, but hey, you asked for pet fees and so should be just stricken from everybody's vocabulary and so we can move forward.

Ha ha ha.

All right, then.

As a listener, this one I just actually heard the other day.

I was listening to an interview, and the host graciously and politely, hey, welcome to the show.

And the guest said, hey, thanks for having me on the show.

Wonderful thing to do.

You welcome your guests to the listeners.

Fantastic.

You know, and everybody does it.

But then later on in the episode, they say, well, we were talking about this before we hit record.

Wait a minute.

You introduced me to the guest as if you just came on which podcasters you and I know.

This is not the case.

We've been chit chatting for 5, 10, 20 minutes before we hit record.

So which one is it?

Is it we just started talking and welcomed them to the show, or did we talk about something before we hit record?

Well, you got to do one of two things.

There's really only one or two solutions you can do here.

One, let's take out the piece where we're saying, we talked about this before we hit record.

It's unnecessary in most cases.

However, if it is necessary, you do need to leave it in, then I recommend doing this, and I've done this before.

And you know what?

It makes a positive impact on the overall feel of the show.

Take out that little nice, sincere introduction at the beginning.

Everybody knows you're happy to have someone on the show.

Everybody knows that we're excited to have them on the show.

Everybody knows, hey, welcome to the show.

Oh, it's nice to be here.

What else are they going to say?

Unless they jump right into a story, which would be excellent, but most people just say, oh, thanks for having me on the show.

Now ask me the first question, that type of thing.

Let's cut out that introduction, get right to the meat.

Usually this is coming from a music transition out.

I guess this is another editing tip, isn't it?

Sorry, but we're coming out of the introduction to the show.

We might have a little music transitions we can jump right into.

You know, Kevin, you were in a car accident.

Tell me about this, or whatever.

You jump into it.

We already know that the guest is coming.

We already know they're happy to be there.

Or, you know, it doesn't even matter if they're happy to be there.

We're going to know that they're happy to be there just by the tone of their voice when they're telling us their story.

So that's my pet peeve.

That's my pet peeve for 20, 25.

How about that?

And it's two of them.

So thank you for giving me the time to share those.

I appreciate y'all.

This is Steve Stewart from stevestewart.

Me.

Oh, and co founder of the Podcast Editor Academy, where we teach people how to become podcast editors by trade.

Like me.

Thanks for having me on.

Oh, Steve, always happy to have you on.

In fact, Steve will be back in a few weeks, maybe a little less.

We're going to be talking about running your podcast as a business, but I am so with you on the.

Hey, we were talking before the show.

Oh, hey, thanks.

Now I feel like an outsider.

I'm not cool enough to be part of the whole conversation.

Apparently all the good stuff happened before you hit record.

Love that tip.

Hey, Dave.

Mark Lawley from Practical Prepping Podcast.

We can be found at practicalprepping.info.

my pet peeve is podcasters taking too long to get to the topic.

I recently listened to a podcast put out by one of the big podcast hosts because I wanted to learn about the topic and the title, but it took over 17 minutes for them to get to the topic.

I almost left several times, but I really did want to hear the information.

Normally, I'll give a podcast about three minutes to get to the topic, then I'll go on to something else.

Thank you for what you do, Dave.

Again, this is Mark Lawley with Practical Prepping Podcast.

We don't do bunkers, zombies, or alien invasions, just practical prepping.

We can be found@practical prepping.info Mark, thank you so much.

Yeah, I don't mind a little chit chat kind of.

It depends on the mood.

But I actually have some shows like Conan O'Brien.

I think I have it set to start at like the eight minute, Mark, because he has to berate his staff, you know, all in fun.

And I know some people, that's the part they love about the show.

But for me, I'm like, if it says interview with Ron Howard, I would like to get to the interview with Ron Howard sometime before lunch.

You know, they just keep going on and on and oh, Sonia.

And all you have to do is look at Sonya and go, sonia, my favorite color is blue.

And she's like.

And I'm like, I don't get it.

Yeah, totally love that one.

Mark.

Hi, Dave.

This is Kim Newlove from the Pharmacist's Voice podcast and the Perrysburg Podcast.

I have several podcasting pet peeves.

I hope it's okay that I let loose on five of them.

Here, I have a list.

I'll just go through it really quick.

Number one is commercials.

Not only do I dislike too many commercials, I also hate poorly timed commercials.

For example, I'm a pharmacist, and when I'm listening to some medical discovery and it's really exciting, and in pops a mattress commercial or something about mascara, or they're selling a pillow or somebody is selling a security system.

It's completely unrelated.

I'm about to hear about some sort of oncology breakthrough or some sort of new drug announcement.

But no, I have to listen to a commercial.

I'll take out my phone, I'll press the forward 30 seconds button, and by the time I do that, they're back to the regular programming.

So I have to press the back 15 seconds button.

And it's like this, you know, unpredictable cycle.

I'm listening to content, in comes a commercial.

Is there going to be more than one commercial?

I have no idea.

Oh, it's so annoying.

I do not like too many commercials, and especially I hate poorly timed commercials.

Second on my list is volume changes between the host and the guest, meaning I have to ride the volume knob.

Ugh, I hate doing that.

Most often what happens is the host has a microphone and they sound great, but then the guest has a laptop and they're talking right into it.

Not only are they talking right into their laptop, but they quite possibly have their notes in front of them, thereby obstructing their microphone on the laptop or their hands are in front of their face.

It's really obvious when there's an obstruction in addition to having the laptop microphone.

I dislike those volume changes because by the time I crank it up so I can listen to the guest, the host is interjecting something and I have to turn it down.

That's a deal breaker for me.

You got about 30 seconds.

When that's happening, I am turning it off.

I hate that.

Sorry if I sound angry when I'm talking about this, but I really dislike all of these things that I'm talking.

About and I'm going to jump in.

I love these.

Kim, I'm with you 100%.

This is so easy to fix.

Offphonic.

Com links in the show notes out@schoolofpodcasting.com 973.

There are other ones, but that's one you can easily volume volume out.

Yes, you can volume out your level or if you want, you can level out your volumes.

Carry on, Kim.

All right, number three on my list here.

Out of context clips at the beginning of a podcast episode.

I personally dislike it when the podcaster puts some sort of out of context clip.

Whether it's 15 seconds, 30 seconds, a full minute right at the top of the episode, I don't know what they're talking about and it certainly does not entice me to listen to the rest of the episode.

When podcasters ask for feedback about their podcast and they have done this, that's the number one thing I bring to their attention.

Those clips at the beginning do not serve me as an audience member.

Fourth on my list is not putting things in the show notes.

Let's say a guest or a host mentions a book.

I love books.

When somebody mentions a book, I want to at least look at it online.

And if it's not in the show notes, that's frustrating to me because I don't remember at what minute mark during the episode they mentioned it and I'm not going to go back and check it out.

So that frustrates me and it wastes my time.

And my fifth and final pet peeve is too many sound effects.

Sometimes people get those Rodecaster pros or there's something going on.

They have a new toy and you can tell because they overuse the sound effects.

Not a big fan of using too many sound effects.

If I sound annoyed, it's because I'm talking about pet peeves.

Really, I swear I'm a nice person.

Again, this is Kim Newlove from the Pharmacist Voice Podcast and the Perry's Work Podcast.

A little bit about my podcasts.

I have two the first podcast is the Pharmacist's Voice.

The Pharmacist's Voice podcast is a weekly show that I have been doing since 2019.

We talk about pharmacy topics and careers.

You can find the Pharmacist's Voice podcast@the pharmacistvoice.com My second podcast is called the Perrysburg Podcast.

I live in a small town in Northwest Ohio called Perrysburg, Ohio.

I launched a podcast back in July of 2023 as a hobby podcast or a service project you could call it and I just plan to run it for three years.

You can find it@Harrisburgpodcast.com we talk about what's in Harrisburg and why people like to live here.

It is a resource for the Pearisburg community.

Thanks for all you do, Dave.

And thanks for including my Response in the February 2025 question of the Month.

Happy podcasting.

Oh Kim.

Standing ovation.

Amazing list.

Yeah.

Here's the thing again.

Commercials.

I don't think we hate Commercials.

Too many.

I listened to a show this week and they started off with no less than five commercials at the beginning and they were host red.

So at least they were getting paid.

That's the other thing, the kind of curse of being a podcaster.

If it's a.

And nothing against geico, but if it's an insurance or, you know, home repair place or whatever, I know you're getting paid.005 cents for that, if you're lucky.

And I'm like, you're annoying me for point.005 cents.

Like, if you're getting five bucks, I'd be like, all right, you know what?

I want to support you, but I'm supporting you by letting you annoy me for point.005 cents.

And out of context clips.

I've said this forever and here's.

You want to know why those happen so often?

It's the editor trying to show their value.

Like, because all the big names do this and so they'll find a clip.

But yeah, the idea of the clip is to hook you in.

And it's so weird when you hit play and you hear them say something like, yeah, my dad was born in Indiana.

And like screwdrivers.

And you're like.

And that's it, that's the clip.

You're like, wait, what?

Which sometimes the huh.

I mean, it worked for Lost.

That whole TV show was huh.

That made people tune in.

But I'm always like, look, if you're looking for a hook, why not just say who the guest is and why you brought them on and what you're going to learn.

That takes 10 seconds.

And you don't have to listen to your 45 minute interview again to find that one sweet spot.

Yeah, most of the time those fail miserably.

So keep that in mind.

That's a way to cut down on your production time.

Just tell people why you're excited about this interview.

Keep in mind that if it's an interview that you don't have to sell the guest because you let them on the show and the audience trusts that you're not going to bring on somebody who's boring.

And yeah, as someone who uses sound effects, you can overdo it.

And I'm always.

There are times that I'm like, am I starting to sound like, you know, Binky and the Wiz or whoever on some morning zoo show where all we need is a big ooga horn or something like that?

Hi, Dave, my name is Todd and I'm the co host and producer of a gaming podcast called Guardian Downcast we don't use first names in the gaming community and go by gamer tags, and mine is Todd the Gator, and some of you probably see me in the live Ask the Podcast Coach shows every Saturday morning Hey guys, what's up?

To answer your question of the month, what annoys me most when listening to podcasts today?

I must either be getting older or my taste in podcasts have changed a bit.

Because I listen to so many different kinds of podcasts, I now have the mindset that you often share, which is don't waste the listener's time.

And although I used to enjoy the banter in many podcasts, I now find myself less patient and will either fast forward to the meat of the title that the show published, or I'll just move on and listen to other podcasts that don't banter as much.

I've also been more cognizant of this when I produce my shows as well, but that falls a close second to what really annoys me most, and that is more and more podcasts running ads mid sentence, I'll be listening intently to a subject and wham.

Out of nowhere I get an ad that is twice the volume about some product that has nothing to do with the podcast.

I really worry that podcasts today are losing that charm that made me abandon radio long ago.

I realize, you know, that people want to, at the very minimum, cover their expenses of producing a podcast.

I myself have run a productive Patreon community for the last four years now, and I do zero ads in my segmented show.

I do produce transitions between my segments whereby I can inform the listeners where to reach out to us or leave a question or even visit our website Podpage for Life.

By the way, such a great service to us podcasters.

So podcasters out there listening right now, please consider other methods of funding your hobby or business.

The ad buyers don't pay enough anyway and don't unders.

They just don't understand how podcasting is so different and much more potent than the mainstream media out there.

20 to $40 for every 1,000 listeners that are probably annoyed by ads.

It just isn't worth it.

Advertisers need to understand podcasting better to tailor more host read ads that they can cleverly tie in to the subject of the conversation.

Every time I'm caught off guard by a host read ad that intelligently ties it into their show is a skill in my opinion.

But I digress.

I've listened to so many of your episodes over the years.

Dave, I love what you have to say you give a no nonsense approach to podcasting and I like your style.

I'm a seasoned podcaster and have over five years of episodes and have a great discord, community and presence.

We're based off a long running game called Destiny 2 made by the developer Bungie, who's owned by Sony now.

And I'm very connected and passionate about this game in particular.

So my co hosts and I are now producing live YouTube episodes where we talk news of the game, general gaming topics, interview content creators and community members, all while having fun and keeping it light.

Oh, and respect the listeners.

Time.

Right.

Everything about us is@guardiandowncast.com thanks Dave.

And I'm sorry I missed you when you were in Orlando last month.

Maybe next time.

Take care.

Absolutely.

Mr.

Gator.

Mr.

Todd, yeah, he's.

If you want free podcast Advice every Saturday, 10:30 Eastern, 10:30am AskThePodcastCoach.com live.

And yeah, it's again, remember to make things good, you have two ingredients.

It's content and delivery.

And so even if you had like, let's say, you know, he's got his gamer show and maybe you come on with a new joystick or something.

Said the guy who hasn't played video games since, you know, Madden first came out forever ago.

But you know, you've got something that fits your audience.

But if it's in the middle, are you a person that swallows saliva over long periods of time in very small amounts?

Then you need to ask your doctor if.

All right, yes, I did that on purpose to cut it in the middle if I want to be a real stinker.

To quote the one and only Bugs Bun, I would have made the volume way louder because that's always attractive.

And yeah, so it's, it's content and delivery and yeah, what I was at an event in Orlando and the, the, what I need to remember the next time I'm there, I'll definitely look you up is we'd have to meet probably the day before because I usually get in the day before a little early and then sometimes I will leave the day after.

But yeah, I will definitely look you up, Mr.

Gator.

Thank you so much.

Hello friends.

Dave has once again given us a very interesting question and I want to give you my answer.

But first, I host Backlook Cinema, the podcast where we take a look back at the movies of yesteryear, especially the movies from the 70s, 80s and 90s.

We talk about some of the creators that put this movie together, some of our favorite parts of the movie and some of the great trivia, the behind the scenes shenanigans of each movie every week.

And we can be reached that www.backlookcinema.com the thing that is my greatest pet peeve is poor audio quality.

And I'm not talking about slightly poor quality, I'm talking about egregiously poor quality.

Like when people are obviously sharing one mic on their computer or when one person is super loud and the other person is super soft, or when their voice is like coming in like it's through broken radio and you can barely understand what they're saying.

These type of things, it'll just tune me out, It'll turn me off.

Because if I can't understand what a person is saying or if I'm having to constantly adjust the volume in order to enjoy the program, then I'll skip it.

I'll tune it out, I'll turn it off, I'll go to a different podcast because I don't want to work at listening to a show.

I wanted to just be able to sit back and listen.

I don't want to have to fight to understand what somebody's saying because of poor audio quality.

So that's my biggest pet peeve and podcasting.

Catch you later.

Thank you, Zoe.

The one and only Zoe Richardson.

Yeah, if you are not noticing the pattern, I always say if you want to get people to tune out quickly, make them grab the volume knob.

Because if they're grabbing the volume knob, their hand is right there and they're just going to go swipe left and delete and bad audio quality.

And what's kind of interesting is I had someone this week that I ran across and I was very polite and I said, hey, like, what microphone are you using?

I hear a lot of room noise.

And he was like, well, I'm using my built in laptop, I don't hear it.

And I was like, I remember once I had a fan noise, my computer had this loud fan and I kept.

I'd gone through and put in a noise gate and a couple other things and I could still hear it.

I was obsessing over it.

And the reason I could still hear it is because the fan noise was in the room with me.

So even if I had taken it out of the recording, I could still hear the fan noise because it was right there.

So, yeah, I'm with you.

If, if you make me have to struggle to understand or hear and especially if you have an audience that is listening in your car, or probably more appropriate, their car, because they Wouldn't all fit in mine.

Then that's where you're now battling street noises and tires on pavement and things like that.

And that's where having that little bit or many cases, lotta bit of hey, look, I decided to do my interview from the bathroom inside a fishbowl while I fry bacon.

Yeah, that's just not gonna work.

Hi Dave, this is York from Welcome to Earth Stories.

One of my biggest pet peeves is when a podcaster loses sight of his main topic.

I used to listen to a technology show.

This one was all about the iPhone and everything Apple related.

But when I listened to this particular episode for about 45 minutes, maybe more, they were talking about US politics.

I live in Canada, so I don't have a dog in the race.

So I kept on fast forwarding and lo and behold, they were still talking about US politics.

And then I fast forward some more to think, okay, they're going to start talking about the Apple products.

But no, they were still on the US Presidential race.

And then I said to myself, am I going to continue listening to this show?

So I gave it another chance because this is one of my favorite tech shows.

I don't mind politics, but if I'm going to listen to to a technology show, it has to be about the technology.

This reminds me of just to throw in some Canadian content here.

Celine Dion.

I like Celine Dion and also I like hip hop music, but I don't want Celine Dion's next album to be a hip hop album.

And that's the same way if I listen to a particular podcast.

As far as my show is concerned, we're always on target.

If you want to hear a podcast that's all about stories with voices from Japan, Jamaica, my home here in Canada and all around the world, then tune in to welcome to earth stories.

Season 8 is starting later on this year, but you can listen to all previous seasons as well WELCOME to earthstories.com thanks, Dave.

Thank you, York.

Always great to hear your voice come up when I hit play.

And so we have kind of the same list we do every year.

And you might be thinking, but Dave, then why do you do this every year?

To just remind people to quit doing that.

It doesn't change.

And that's actually kind of a good thing because it's like, no, no, this wasn't a one time thing.

These are the things that really drive people crazy.

And so for me, I think my top two is commercials.

Coming in at number two are commercials.

And I don't mind like the 15 second, hey, today's show is brought to you by PodPage.

PodPage makes great looking sites for podcasters that don't want to learn coding.

You know, go to podpage.com, that's it, right?

You can say a lot in 15 seconds.

But then it's followed by another one and another one and another one and oh, are we done?

Nope.

One more.

Nope, wait, still one more like four minutes of ads.

And I know Joe Rogan does it.

There's only one problem.

You're not Joe Rogan.

But I guess.

And the other thing that drives me nuts about that is, again, I know if you're really good, you're probably getting.005 cents.

So those four minutes of ads brought you in 2 cents.

Like, you annoyed me for 2 cents.

And typically, in that case, if it's a new show that I'm trying for the.

I've had that happen where somebody will go, oh, you should check out the show.

It's good.

And I hit play.

And it's commercial.

It's commercial skip.

Commercial skip is still in commercials.

I'm like, all right, I tried, uh, and I will.

Without ever actually hearing the podcast because the experience is not good.

And I'm like, nope, you don't.

You.

For me, I shouldn't take it personal, but I do.

I'm kind of like, all right, you're making me look for the, you know, where's the beef?

For those that remember that commercial, but the one that will actually get me hot and bothered.

Like, I'm just like, oh, it's so easy to do.

Come on.

Is where people will be interviewing an author or a service or whatever it is.

And especially if the service is got some sort of funky.

Is it AI Chat money?

Try and spell this.

And then it's like, oh, you got to try the new audio magic tool.

It does this.

It's grungenskangirl.com and you're like, what was that again?

You're like, that's right.

I'll just go to it in the show notes.

And you go to the show notes and you're like, oh, you gotta be kidding me.

And especially if it's a book.

This book is written for people named Dave that live in Ohio.

And it talks about, hey, make really engaging, blah, blah.

And I'm like, oh, gotta get this book.

I've got, you know, 15 credits on audible.

I've been wanting to, you know, use one of them.

And you go there and like, I'm sure it's in the show notes.

Yeah, those are my top two.

And that last one, the no show note thing.

Oh, and I don't know that I will unsubscribe, but I will politely email you and go, hey, you forgot something.

Because that.

That's one that I'm like, curses to you.

And, you know, that's.

That's one of my God now.

And I also, for the record, I am guilty of that.

I, you know, Kim Newlove was on here, and I mentioned her last week in the episode, and she was nice enough to say, hey, thanks for, you know, thanks for the shout out.

Really appreciate it.

And then it dawned on me.

She's a member of the school of podcasting.

So we use an app a lot to go back and forth.

And as soon as I saw her face and she said, thanks for mentioning me in the show, I was like, oh, I'm almost positive she's not in the show notes.

So that's an easy thing to do.

That's why I don't hate people that do that.

A lot of times we're struggling and, you know, there are some cool things like Captivate, and their AI tool that's built in will automatically kind of listen for websites and it'll say, Here are the URLs that were mentioned, which makes show notes kind of easy.

So those are my top two when it comes to pet peeves.

And I will go back and look and find previous years where we've talked about this subject.

And there are other ones, other pet peeves, but those are the ones that drive people, I think, the most crazy and are more likely to have them going.

And that's enough of that.

And unsubscribe the school of podcasting.

I got some thoughts on some recent news items that I want to clarify because you're not getting the whole story.

We'll get to that right after this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

A study came out that said YouTube had 1 billion podcast listeners in January.

And couple things I want to just bring up about that.

When you are on YouTube and you look away videos over and the next one autoplays and you're like, oh, crap, I don't want that.

And you hit stop.

If you watched a second of that, that counts as a view.

So when they have 1 billion viewers, that includes all the oopsies in there.

And then I wanted to play a clip.

Ana Xavier does the podcast space show.

And she's kind of a marketing person and I like her.

I've been on her show.

But I just was like, because I heard her say this, and I just wanted to comment on that.

And this isn't really, you know, we're allowed to have difference of opinion, and I don't want to spend a lot of time on this, but just.

I'm just gonna.

Just shut up, Dave, and hit play.

Wow.

For a second.

A lot of people are still fighting over this.

And so there was a study that was done by Coleman Insights and podcast consultancy Amplify Media.

They basically found out that 75% of people voted that the official definition of a podcast should include audio and video.

So.

Okay, so I just want to point out, podcasting has been audio and video since day one.

This isn't new.

Continue longer.

You're like, well, the video isn't a podcast.

Well, we're kind of still trying to figure out, like, what is in terms of format, a video podcast and a.

You.

We're not really figuring it out.

It's already been figured out.

So the.

You know, it's still up in the air, because before, it used to be like, a podcast is something that you can listen to on an RSS feed, and now it's no longer the case.

So, sorry, that didn't change.

This is the part that's kind of driving me crazy.

People are changing this, and look, I realize the audience doesn't care.

The average viewer doesn't care, but when.

Here's the thing, and I hope this never, ever happens.

But in the event, Spotify and YouTube eventually dominate the podcasting space.

Well, number one, all the media hosts.

No more Buzzsprout, no more Captivate, no more Libsyn, no more Blueberry, because everybody's hosting on these free places.

And, oh, by the way, if you say booger, they're going to kick you off and there's no place to go.

Okay.

And you're like, oh, that's never going to happen.

Yep.

And MySpace is never going to lose its spot, and Facebook will always be number one and Twitter will always be number one.

So I just.

When they say it's not the case anymore.

No, no, that hasn't changed.

A video podcast is still an RSS.

Feed banding, which means you don't have to remain in your idea of what air quotes, what a podcast should be.

No, no, no, that hasn't changed.

You know, it's one of those where it's like, hey, we asked a bunch of people, and 75% of them said, well, because they're both white powders, there is no difference between salt and sugar, so feel free to just use those intermittently.

And there's no difference at all.

And I'm going to end it there just to say, if somebody asks me, I'm going to say no, you're a YouTuber and your YouTube podcast in giant quotation marks goes to YouTube Music and that's it.

But just no.

And there are tools that use an RSS feed, and this is why this is now a new thing.

Well, it's not new, but at PodPage, I have people that want to build a website with YouTube.

And we can, we can import your videos, we can match them with the actual episodes that came over via rss.

But if you want your videos to show up as an episode without the rss, it's just, it.

It's not an RSS feed, it's not a podcast.

You're a YouTuber, you're a content creator.

But I'm sorry, salt and sugar, although they look very similar, are not the same thing.

And yes, podcasters and YouTubers look very similar, especially when they're doing video, but YouTube is not a podcast.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Another new story that came out.

And look, I got no dog in this hunt.

Ok?

So for the record, but Joe Rogan was dethroned by an anti Trump podcast, and that show was called the Midas Touch.

And I guess it's some guy whose last name is Midas.

It's me, I D A S.

And you're like, oh, wow, that's interesting.

I've never heard of that show.

I wonder how they dethroned Joe.

They do 15 episodes a day.

Yeah, that's usually not in the news.

They don't go, hey, you know when Joe gets X amount of downloads per episode, these guys are doing 15 times the number of episodes.

So, you know, I said it, I tried to find it today, but there was an episode I did probably three or four years ago, and I said, I think podcasting can outdo mainstream media at their own job because they all have agendas.

And if we just actually report the facts and let people make up their own mind whether or not they believe it or don't believe it, or if they think this or that, but it's.

It drives me nuts.

And I don't want to open up that can of worms.

But when I saw that, I was like, yeah, we should probably point that out.

And I guess we all just need to be skeptical all the time, which is kind of exhausting.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaking of episodes I've done in the past, I did an episode about what happens to your podcast if you die and you need to kind of have that in your will and such.

And I got the very bad news this week that my friend Neil Galarte, who was the director of the documentary the Messengers, I'll have a link to that out in the show.

Notes.

It's all about podcasting and it's me, about 20 pounds lighter.

I get kind of depressed when I look at that movie now.

Oh my God, geez.

And I get depressed because there's my buddy Neil.

And Neil was with us and then he wasn't and he's just so.

What's the word?

He was such a doting father and husband to his wife and his 11 year old daughter and they just bought a house and you know, Glenn the geek and sent me a message and said, we lost Glenn today.

And I know what that meant, but there was a part of me that didn't want to accept that and go, well, go find him.

And I just.

It's one of those things where Glenn, Glenn, Neil was a guy that I talked to maybe two times a year, if I was lucky, three, and.

But he was also that kind of friend that you just picked up where you left off.

And he is going to be deeply missed.

And I kind of can't believe it.

It's weird because just thinking about going to PodFest and not watching him close it out makes my brain hurt.

And so what I thought I would do today for my call to action is if you want to feel good, there's an easy way to do this.

I'm going to put a link to his GoFundMe page for his wife and his daughter.

Like, five bucks.

Five bucks is nothing unless you're me in my 20s, in which case I was going bankrupt.

But if five bucks to you, 10 bucks to you, 20 bucks to you is nothing, do consider donating to this because it's a good friend of mine.

And I'm just.

It's weird because Neil was younger than I am.

He's 51.

There's so many things that this just rattled my cage in ways that I was just like, ugh.

And so I just want to point that out and also just remind you, because we forget about this, that tomorrow is not guaranteed.

So be nice to each other, be respectful to each other.

A bunch of crap went down with politics this week in the United States.

And, man, I went to Facebook and it was just like cats hissing at each other.

And I was like, look, we're allowed to disagree with each other, but it was getting really nasty.

And so remember to be.

Remember, number one, that we should always try to understand before being understood.

So make sure you understand the other person's point of view before you go spouting your own.

And just, you know, a little patience.

In the immortal words of Axl Rose.

Yeah, a little patience.

Right.

It wouldn't hurt every now and then.

And just my heart goes out to my Florida family in.

In Tampa that I just want to give a big giant hug to.

And instead, I'm here in Ohio.

And so today's episode is.

Is dedicated to the hard working, big, sexy memory of my buddy, Neil Galarte.

You are deeply missed.

And yet because of podcasting, because of YouTube and things like that, you live on.

Your legacy lives on.

And that is one of the benefits.

I have an aunt right now that's 97, and we all know, like, she's on borrowed time.

She's working ot and she's got every one of her marbles.

And for whatever reason, she.

She's just not interested in having me record her telling stories.

And so I got to sneak a phone in there and do it anyway.

But that's a way, you know, there are so many reasons to start a podcast.

And I actually did a podcast about how I felt about Neil.

I do a show called Building a better Dave, and I highly expect nobody to listen to it, and I really don't care.

It is my audio diary.

And when this kind of rattled my cage, I was like, I need to jot down my audio thoughts about this.

And it's kind of interesting now I can go back and remember when I got married.

I can remember when I got divorced.

I can remember this.

I can remember that.

Now.

I could, in theory, just.

There's a thing called a journal, and it's private.

Could do that, too, and I often do.

But I also have a podcast because sometimes I'm trying to share some insights and maybe get you to think a different way or just help you avoid one of those potholes in the road of life.

So just wanted to throw that out there.

And right now I sit here and go, I don't have.

I know where I'm going to put it.

The if I'm dead page is going to be in a notebook.

And in case anybody wonders, just ask my brother.

It's where dad kept his.

I just don't have one yet.

And it's been probably a couple of years since we did that what if you die episode.

And I still haven't done one.

And I need to put that on my to do list and make it happen, because tomorrow is not guaranteed.

So thank you so much for listening.

Thank you for everybody for sending in their answers.

Again, schoolofpodcasting.com 973 is where you can find links to all of their shows.

And until next week, take care.

God bless.

Class is dismissed.