The #1 Reason You're Not Gettomg Engagement On Your Show
If you want people to stick around and take action on your website, you’ve got to make it easy for them. In this episode, we break down the common friction points that stop visitors in their tracks—and how to fix them. I’ll share three powerful tools to help you keep your SEO strong, start monetizing, and customize your site without a lot of tech headaches. Plus, we’ll talk about the language you use on your site and how simple changes can lead to better engagement. If you’re looking to turn your website into a place where visitors connect, click, and come back for more, this episode is for you.
Takeaways:
- Website engagement can be significantly hindered by unnecessary friction between the visitor and the desired action.
- Ensuring that contact information is easily accessible on your website is essential for visitor engagement.
- Using tools like Redirect Pizza can help preserve SEO when transitioning between domains.
- Effective communication with your audience often requires simplifying the navigation paths on your website.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:58 - Removing Friction
05:10 - Redirects That Save Your SEO
08:00 - Build an Affiliate Store
11:14 - Do More On Your Website
13:31 - Free Podcast Polish*
On today's show, are you not getting any engagement on your website?
Speaker AI've got a pretty good idea why.
Speaker AWe also have three tools for you.
Speaker AOne is going to help you save your SEO.
Speaker AAnother one is going to help you make money, and the third one will pretty much enable you to do anything on your website.
Speaker APlus, we have a quick lesson on the power of words.
Speaker BWelcome to Podcast Website Tips, the ultimate guide for podcasters who want to level up their online presence with no coding required.
Speaker BWhether you're a seasoned pro or just getting started, this show gives you practical, actionable advice to build and optimize your podcast website.
Speaker BWe cover everything from design and content to SEO and monetization.
Speaker BGet ready to attract more listeners and take your website from good to great.
Speaker BHere's your host, Dave Jackson.
Speaker AHey.
Speaker AWelcome to Podcast Website Tips.
Speaker AMy first tip today is how much friction have you put between you and your visitors?
Speaker AI had a project this month where I had to contact people.
Speaker AAnd one would think I would go to the website, there'd be a word that said contact, maybe fill out a form, maybe show me your email address, something.
Speaker AAnd I was amazed at how hard it was to contact people.
Speaker AThere are a couple things that really got me.
Speaker ANumber one, the person that says, oh, just DM me on Instagram.
Speaker ANot everybody uses Instagram or Twitter or Blue sky or whatever.
Speaker AYou know what?
Speaker AEverybody uses email.
Speaker ASo that was one that just.
Speaker AI was just astonished that I couldn't just email you or if you didn't want me to just DM you.
Speaker AIt was contact and it was like, click here to schedule a discovery call.
Speaker AWell, I don't want a discovery call.
Speaker AI'm trying to figure out if I need a discovery call with you.
Speaker AAnd that would start with an email because can you imagine that if I did that?
Speaker AHey, here's a discovery call.
Speaker AWhat would you like to talk about?
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AI'm trying to figure out who you are and if I want to work with you.
Speaker AI mean, I just.
Speaker AIt was amazing.
Speaker AAnd so also think about this for everyone that is using AI as a customer service tool, because I don't know about you, but the one thing you have to train these things is when they say, I need a live person, that it either a says one is not available, give me your email and I will get back to you, or it gets them to a live person.
Speaker ABecause I've had many that I was like, hey, cause I'll give them a shot.
Speaker AYou know, like, here's my question.
Speaker AIt'll give me an answer that doesn't do it.
Speaker AI might try a different question, but many times it keeps sending me to the same wrong answer.
Speaker AAnd I'm like, okay, give me a live person.
Speaker AAnd I'm not sure.
Speaker AGo in and look at your stats and see how often AI is actually helping the customer.
Speaker ABecause, I don't know, too many people are like, hey, that was amazing.
Speaker AI know of one company whose name is escaping me right now that I was like, hey, look, AI actually, you know, helped me.
Speaker AIt was amazing.
Speaker ASo think about all the things you want your audience to do, whether that's follow the show.
Speaker AAt PodPage, we have a follow page you can set up.
Speaker AThat way you don't have to say, find me.
Speaker AWherever you find your podcast, I'll put a link in the show notes.
Speaker AI had this happen again a couple weeks ago where I went to find a show.
Speaker AI typed in the exact name of the show and it did not come up.
Speaker AYou do not want to say find me.
Speaker ANumber one, why is your show lost wherever you find your podcast?
Speaker ABecause if you're looking in Spotify and sometimes Apple, it's not going to come up.
Speaker AAnd now people have to keep searching or in most cases, they just give up.
Speaker ASo if you're not getting the activity you want on, the things you want your visitors to be active on, try to do it yourself.
Speaker AOr call a cousin or a friend and go, hey, I want you to go to my website and do this.
Speaker AAnd it's really great.
Speaker AIf you want to do this, have them do it in front of you and stand behind them, because you'll be amazed at what people click on and what they miss.
Speaker AAnd this is just an obvious case of, we know the website because we're there every day, and all of a sudden, Cousin Carl, you're like, wait, and don't just let them do it.
Speaker AAnd if you can get them to think out loud, okay, I'm going to click on this because I think this is this and I'm trying to do this.
Speaker ASo I'm going to click here, have them think out loud.
Speaker ABut I'm just amazed.
Speaker AIf you're trying to get engagement with your audience, have you put up any kind of hurdles because you want zero.
Speaker ASo when you started your podcast, you picked a domain name that it turns out is hard to spell, hard to type, maybe put a bunch of numbers in it, you know, for whatever reason, you're going to rebrand.
Speaker AAnd the problem is everything has been pointing at domain number one, and now you want to point it at domain Number two, and even though you just started the podcast, or even worse, if you've been having it for years, you don't want to lose the SEO.
Speaker AAnd so in theory, we used to tell people at PodPage, oh, just forward the domain with Path.
Speaker AAnd it turns out to the best of my knowledge, that Google Domains, which was bought by Squarespace, is one of the few domain handlers that allows you to do that.
Speaker AAnd then I found.
Speaker AAnd this is a real domain.
Speaker AI don't ask me why.
Speaker ARedirect Pizza.
Speaker AYeah, that's it.
Speaker AAnd what's cool about this?
Speaker AI'll have a video in the show notes.
Speaker AYou go in and you say, here's my old domain.
Speaker AHere's the new domain, and forward this with Path.
Speaker AYou have to throw a little, you know, numbers into your domain to get it to forward properly.
Speaker AAnd it's free.
Speaker ANow, if you want to see how many, you know, people have gone from point A to point B, that is a fee.
Speaker AIt's not a lot.
Speaker AAnd it is because you can do five, you know, domain names with a hundred thousand requests a month for free.
Speaker AThe basic plan, you can do 15 names with a million requests.
Speaker AThat's $15 a month.
Speaker ASo basically, you could do that if you wanted to see that.
Speaker AAnd when the number of redirects gets down to zero, then you just cut it off.
Speaker ABut I was really amazed by this.
Speaker AAnd really, this show was originally called your podcast website, and I had your podcast website.com.
Speaker Aand then after I started working for PodPage, we needed a podcast.
Speaker AI said, I got one.
Speaker ASo we rebranded this to podcast websitetips.com and I wanted to forward the domain, and there are things like, you know, podcast websitetips.com voicemail that I didn't want to lose.
Speaker AAnd the cool thing is, if you go to the old domain, your podcast website.com voicemail, it will redirect because of the path to podcast websitetips.com voicemail.
Speaker ASo if you're moving from one domain to the other, you don't want to lose the SEO juice.
Speaker ACheck it out again.
Speaker AIt's a kind of bizarre name.
Speaker AIt is Redirect Pizza.
Speaker AI've talked in the past about Genius Link.
Speaker AI love that service.
Speaker AI use it.
Speaker AIt's a whopping $6 a month.
Speaker AAnd what it does is I can basically send somebody a link, and if I have an affiliate program or if I have an affiliate, you know, I'm a partner with Amazon and Sweetwater and B and H and all the other places, I can send them to A page that has a link to all of those and they can decide which one they want to use.
Speaker ALove that service.
Speaker AI had someone at podpage that where you can build your own store and they had a ton of products and they were affiliates and they're like, nothing against PodPage, but there's no categories, you know, the.
Speaker AIt's not really meant for people with a ton.
Speaker AIn that case, you know, you would want to link to maybe your Etsy store or something of that nature.
Speaker AAnd they were doing affiliates.
Speaker ASo I found this tool and it's interesting because I used this probably 10 years ago.
Speaker ABack then you had to host it on your own server.
Speaker AYou had to be a bit of a nerd.
Speaker AAnd now it's self hosted and it's called Fresh Store.
Speaker AAnd I will say I signed up.
Speaker AIt's a whopping $4 a month.
Speaker AAnd the thing I like about it is, yes, you can tie it in with Amazon and ebay, but if like in my case, I have Sweetwater as an affiliate and I like Sweetwater a little better than Amazon, just the customer service is through the roof.
Speaker AAnd I said, hey, can I add my own affiliate links?
Speaker AAnd they're like, yes.
Speaker AAnd so it is Amazon compliant, so you're not gonna break any rules.
Speaker AI will say this.
Speaker AI went in and said, because, you know, AI is the bee's knees, as my grandma used to say.
Speaker AAnd I said, hey, make a store for me based on the word podcast.
Speaker AAnd it gave me things like facial soap.
Speaker AYep.
Speaker ANot making that up.
Speaker AI was like, you know, maybe we all need to clean our faces a little more in the world of podcasting.
Speaker ABut I was not overly impressed, but I really didn't want that.
Speaker AAnyway, I'm gonna go in and pick my own microphones and stands and lighting and all that stuff and set it up.
Speaker AAnd it's not set up yet, but for four bucks, if you're a person that does a lot of affiliate marketing, you could easily have this thing pay for itself.
Speaker AAnd from what I've seen, it's gonna take me maybe a half hour to set this up.
Speaker AI already went in and set it up and tried to make the automatic store and was like, yeah, nevermind.
Speaker ABut just to go in, set up a couple categories and I've probably got, I don't know, 15, 20 products I'll recommend.
Speaker AAnd if affiliate marketing is something you do, or if you're trying to make money with your podcast and you don't have enough downloads to get a sponsor and you're not selling Your own product and service, then sell somebody else's products and services through affiliates.
Speaker ALinks are in the show notes.
Speaker ASo I run a podcast for my local city, Akron, Ohio.
Speaker AI've creatively named it Akron Podcast.
Speaker AYou can find it@akronpodcast.com on my pod page.
Speaker AAnd I needed an events calendar.
Speaker AAnd that is something that's not built into pod page.
Speaker ASo I kind of went looking and found this site called ELF Site.
Speaker ASo apparently I don't know what's going on with the Internet with the dot pizza and now ELF site, I'm like, okay, that's not exactly the most descriptive thing I've ever heard, but they have a ton of scripts.
Speaker ASo I found an events calendar.
Speaker AAnd here again, it's, I want to say, $4 a month, maybe six.
Speaker AI know you can get up to like 96 different things.
Speaker ASo if you want banners on your website, or a countdown timer or a store locator or a QR code or an FAQ or, I mean, it goes on age verification.
Speaker AWhat are you doing on your website?
Speaker AEtsy reviews, ebay reviews, you know, all sorts of stuff.
Speaker AAnd I found, like I said, an appointment booker.
Speaker AIf you want that, that's there as well.
Speaker AI mean, I could go on.
Speaker AThe list goes on forever.
Speaker AAnd I use the event calendar.
Speaker AI go over, I log into elfsight, I go into my little event calendar, I add new events, and I've already copied and pasted the code in my case into a custom page on podpage, made a link for it, and we're good to go.
Speaker AAnd so I was really amazed at just all the, like, if you need cookie consent on your website, if you need a image carousel, that's there.
Speaker AThere are just tons of things that you can do.
Speaker AAnd I was amazed.
Speaker ASo if you are feeling like you were somewhat limited to what was going on with your website, no matter what you're doing, well, then you might want to check out elfsight and I'll have a link out in the show notes.
Speaker AAll right, in this last one is both an announcement and a lesson.
Speaker AAnd that is PodPage has announced for Elite Annual members, free podcast website design services.
Speaker AYou get a free design polish based on your podcast artwork and a free live design review with the PodPage CEO, better known as Brendan Mulligan, for expert design service.
Speaker ASo you get to sit down with Brennan.
Speaker AHe'll basically kind of polish up your website based on your artwork.
Speaker AAnd that's the cool thing.
Speaker AThat's the new thing we're doing now.
Speaker ANotice I said for Elite Annual members.
Speaker AAnd this was written up in POD News.
Speaker AAnd we're not blaming Pod News, but just the fact that I'll read this whole thing.
Speaker AThe podcast website tool POD Page lets anyone get a great looking website for their podcast.
Speaker ABut today for Elite annual members, they're announcing free podcast website design services, free design polish based on your podcast artwork, and free live design review with the PodPage CEO for expert design device.
Speaker ASo we had the word here free three times and we had people sign up that thought podpage was free and we're like, no, the design polish is free if you are an elite annual member.
Speaker ANow, we didn't have a lot of people, we had more than one.
Speaker AAnd so if you're doing things for free, be careful because people that want things for free are not happy when they're not free and might maybe go out and flame you on social note.
Speaker ALuckily, this did not happen to us.
Speaker AI've had that happen to me in other places.
Speaker ASo be very careful if you're giving away something for free.
Speaker ATo make sure that people know exactly what they're getting for free, our website podcast websitetips.com, throw on a slash follow and you can follow this show for free.
Speaker AYou can in whatever app you want.
Speaker AI'm not telling you to go find my podcast.
Speaker AI'm telling you right where it is.
Speaker AIt's at podcast websitetips.com follow while you're there.
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Speaker AI'm Dave Jackson, head of Podcasting odpage.
Speaker AThanks so much for tuning in.
Speaker AWe'll see you again real soon with another episode of Podcast Website Tips.
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