July 27, 2024

Podcasting Lessons From Bon Jovi

Podcasting Lessons From Bon Jovi

Send us feedback/questions via Text Bon Jovi and Taylor Swift Ever compared your podcasting journey to rocking out at a Bon Jovi concert? We'll take you through our trials and triumphs with streaming tools like Ecamm and StreamYard, sharing insights from our live chat audience about maintaining audio quality. Inspired by Tom Webster's "The Audience Is Listening," we dive into how truly knowing your listeners can fuel your podcast's growth. Prepare for some entertaining analogies as we liken o...

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Ever compared your podcasting journey to rocking out at a Bon Jovi concert? We'll take you through our trials and triumphs with streaming tools like Ecamm and StreamYard, sharing insights from our live chat audience about maintaining audio quality. Inspired by Tom Webster's " The Audience Is Listening ," we dive into how truly knowing your listeners can fuel your podcast's growth. Prepare for some entertaining analogies as we liken our podcast experiences to those unforgettable moments at live concerts that leave you wanting more.

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Ask the Podcast Coach for July 27th 2024.

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Let's get ready to podcast.

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There it is.

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It's that music.

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That means it's Saturday morning.

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It's time for Ask the Podcast Coach where you get your podcast questions.

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Live you ready for a new tagline the home of free podcast stuff?

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What's the word I'm looking for?

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The home of free podcast consulting advice, maybe?

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something like that.

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I'm Dave Jackson from theschoolofpodcastingcom, and joining me right over there is the one and only Jim Cullison from theaverageguytv.

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How are you, jim?

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Greetings, dave.

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Happy Saturday morning to you.

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It's always good to be here on Ask the Podcast Coach on a Saturday morning.

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Big thanks to everybody last week.

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But I did get some feedback that all those voices didn't quite make it a great show, like I mean, yeah, it was fun that we had everybody here, but I'm not sure the second half we delivered that much content.

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Well, the fun thing was running it through Cast Magic and having it go.

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Hey, I need to identify your speakers and you're like oh yeah, you really do, we really need that.

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So that that took some time, yeah, but yeah it was.

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Uh was fun, you know we've we've proved that you can have a lot of people on a call.

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But just well, but it may be one of those situations.

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Yeah, maybe one of those situations like this is the blab thing right, where you get all these people talking and then it's maybe not necessarily.

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At the end You're like, well, okay, we just didn't save any things.

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I don't know if you take very much away, it was fun, it was entertaining, let's just put it that way.

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Maybe not learning did.

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Looking back, I'm like, oh is I ran it through descript and then applied the studio sound and then didn't listen to it before I published it.

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Oh and it was, and I cranked it down to like 80.

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I'm like that should be good because remember we had some hiss problems and I was like, that'll fix that and then it came through and I loved the script but I was just like publish and go and then later I'm listening to it, I'm like, oh, that that was a little.

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It was a little harsh, it was a little too much studio sound.

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Yeah.

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So it was a little watered out.

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The other thing I'm getting used to is Buzzsprout, which is the new home of Ask.

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The Podcast Coach mixes your file down to mono, and the musician in me is like maybe I'm going to splurge for the magic mastering which would put it in stereo.

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What do you do?

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That needs stereo.

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You're not queen.

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What are you talking about, man?

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We need this in stereo.

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You know that guy's got doubling going on, that big giant voice.

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Are you swinging amps and stuff?

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on the microphones.

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You're not queen.

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Oh, my goodness.

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It's just weird yeah.

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Randy says it, Come on, man Stereo yeah.

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I know, are we going to do the coffee pour on?

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one side, we probably could yes, it is time, it is, we better do it.

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If you want a coffee pour you.

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Want it in stereo, doggone it For sure, and it would sound like this and, of course, that coffee pour is brought to you by our good friend Mark over at there we go, podcastbrandingco.

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The beautiful thing about Mark is he is a podcaster.

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I've used him on many of my pieces of artwork, and does this mean people can't hear me?

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Yes, are you sure I don't want to remove me?

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There we go, and you can.

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This is so Mark's probably like can you please work out the technology before you do my thing?

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But he's awesome.

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He's going to work with you and really let him do the marketing.

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Tell him about your show.

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Let him listen to a couple episodes so he knows what, uh really what you're going for and so that you can uh match your brand with what he's doing.

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Podcastbrandingco, podcastbrandingco, podcastbrandingco.

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It's the place to go.

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Big thanks to our good friend.

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There we go To our good friend Dan Lefebvre over there.

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Based on a true story, based on truestorypodcastcom.

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If you haven't caught it yet, I think this week or it was in the last week he's in the last days of it, but Dahmer, first man in At Eternity's Gate, is what is covered on his this Week Stories and True Stories this Week.

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You might want to check it out today.

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He's a great podcaster, good content.

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If you're a movie geek, you might like it as well.

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Based on podcaster good content.

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If you're a movie geek, you might like it as well.

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Based on a true story, podcastcom.

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Dan, thanks for your sponsorship yeah, in fact dan gave us a question at least now I've learned how to show things that have been starred and he says question for for podcasters who do live shows, is it okay to be not great content for the podcast, as long as the content is great for the live show?

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hmm, that's a great question, if I do say so myself.

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So it was great, like, if you think about it, the people that were here live last week and we saw us all in our glory and you know that whole nine yards, but it it wasn't really the greatest content.

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That's why, at the end, I'm like did we, did we deliver value?

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What say you, jim collison?

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Because on one hand, well, I don't.

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Yeah, go ahead uncle marv in the chat room, by the way, they're saying I'm super hot and you're a little quiet.

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I don't do you have any audio controls?

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I don't think that's it or does it?

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yeah, for the record, we're going back to Ecamm next week.

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Everybody's like no, use this for four weeks.

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I'm like no, this is a test to see what.

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I recommend this and I already said yeah.

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Okay, you got to take some time to get to know this, but I'm like my goal is not to leave Ecamm.

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I love Ecamm and as I'm doing this and I'm like perfect, if somebody's on a pc, let's go over here.

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There isn't the separate.

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You don't get the separate track thing that you get in stream yard and things like that.

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So, but it's.

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It's definitely a cool tool, but I interrupted you.

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I asked you a question.

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No, no, that's fine, it's good.

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It's good, it's.

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It's all the things that are going on here.

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You know I don't want to take away from the folks that joined us last week Like I don't, you know, I didn't.

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I saw some comments in there.

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Uncle Mark apologized.

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I don't think.

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No, I don't think there's anything wrong with it and there's great entertainment value and I think Dan's question is a little tongue-in-cheek.

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You know we'll roll with that.

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Lots of entertainment value, some good learning for us.

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You know, every Sunday I kind of download with Ed Sullivan.

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We get together and have a conversation and we're talking about it, and lots of value for us, figuring some things out, and the audience gets to see it.

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I'm not sure in an audio podcast standpoint.

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It was great for them.

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You get to the end and it's just a whole bunch of voices, like you say, talking and we're trying to figure stuff out, Watching the video maybe, but I don't know if everybody watches video after the fact that way.

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They're usually coming to it for a reason to find something out or to learn something quickly.

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So entertainment, I think, quickly.

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So entertainment, I think, is it's what.

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I'm going to put that under, the.

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I'm going to put that under the.

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Uh, you know the, the label of entertainment.

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Would we want to necessarily do that every week?

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no no, I don't think so.

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Yeah, I don't think so I have I've turned you down.

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I've turned me up a little bit at least.

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On my roadcaster we're even now.

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But what it is is like the foo fighters do this a lot.

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They'll have, they'll bring a fan up on stage.

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I don't think they do it every show, but like one that's real famous on youtube is there was a guy that dave growl just called kiss guy because he had kiss makeup on and he was holding up a sign like can I play monkey wrench?

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Or something like that.

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And so when they got to that song they brought him up.

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He's like what's up, kiss Guy?

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And he's like do you know this song?

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And he gives him his guitar and the guy starts playing.

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It's like, man, this guy's pretty good and the guy got to play with a Foo Fighters.

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So you make an event.

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At that point it's like it's like it's not the norm.

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You're like, hey, I was there when kiss guy was there and so I don't know not to inflate it, but we might be sitting around three years from now.

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You know pod fest going.

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Remember that time when we had 12 people in the room.

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Well, certainly, as we think about recommendations, you are working through all of those bringing folks in.

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Folks could see that if you were going to do a show like that, where you wanted to bring a bunch of people in, it'd be valuable to see it from that perspective.

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So not that there's no value and not that it wasn't fun.

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I had a ton of fun doing it.

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The question was on the backside does it make the best podcast?

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Probably not.

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It was probably.

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You know most people are like, well, okay, that was interesting.

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That's not by the way, that's not right or wrong, that's just what is.

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In that sense, like I said, I don't know if we would want to necessarily do that every single week.

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I don't know, unless, unless that's the podcast.

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I'm going to say, if that was the thing, and now I'm messing up my noise gate because I can hear me breathe and oh my gosh, breathing people will tune out immediately if they hear me breathe.

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I'm not, I'm a robot, I don't breathe.

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There we go.

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Jody says much better, okay, awesome, very cool.

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So I do want to mention and I'm not getting well, I guess, if you use my affiliate link, if I put one in, but I'm listening to the Audience Is Listening by the one and only Tom Webster, and it could have been called it's a little guide to building a big podcast, and it could have been called your Baby Is Ugly, because a lot of it is just like hey, the reason your show isn't growing is because you haven't really figured out who your audience is.

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And he has there's so many bumper stickers because his wife is Tamsen, who has it's something about red thread.

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I forget the name of her book, but it's all about really knowing your audience.

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So I'm like what a dynamic duo these two are, and so it's I'm only into.

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I'm about three fourths of the way through chapter two and it it's just, and it's weird because a little bit like, uh, the book platform.

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I used to listen to that once a year or read, if you you know.

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So choose, because it's just going back to the basics of this is what good content is, this is what wow content is.

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And this is kind of again.

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First two chapters in, but I've already made three bookmarks where I'm like, oh, that's a good one, oh, that's another good one.

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And so he was talking about, and it was kind of funny how sometimes there are people that are popular that you just kind of.

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I'll give you an example one I don't get Lou Reed.

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I just do not get to me.

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I'm like, oh, and when I watch documentaries I'm like, oh, he was amazing, because he was out of his mind on smack, like he's, you know, he's, look, he's untalented.

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Oh, now he's an untalented junkie, oh, okay.

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And I just, besides, take a walk on the wild side.

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I just don't get Lou Reed.

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And he said there are people like that that you go, I just don't get it.

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And he said one popular one is Bon Jovi, and so that, and again, if you know me, if you get me thinking, I'm like that's a good thing.

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So I actually had to stop the book because I kept distracting myself, like why is Bon Jovi popular?

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And it dawned on me, number one have you seen?

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Do you have Hulu, jim?

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Have you seen the?

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Do you have Hulu, jim, mm-hmm?

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Have you seen the docuseries on Bon Jovi?

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No, I haven't watched it.

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It is the world's longest trailer ever.

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Look, this is where, kind of having a toe in marketing.

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About halfway through you go, oh, I get what this is, because the whole thing is like will he sing again?

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Is his voice going to end.

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And I'm like, of course it is, and he's going to probably do one last tour, oh for sure, then that's the one that you'll have to buy tickets to.

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But the first episode is like look here's John, he's cute, he's really cute.

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Oh, look here's John on a bus.

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Here's John smiling with a hat, look here's John smiling with sunglasses.

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And I'm like, okay, so that'll bring in the female in theory Number two they brought in a really good guitar player because, like doing this morning, I'm researching Bon Jovi lyrics and there was, because I mean, when I was in my 20s he was really popular.

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But now this is not Shakespeare, jim, but let me read to you some lyrics and I'm honest, I'm going to pull this into podcasting.

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In a second there's a song called Shot Through the Heart, which number one shows how John likes to repurpose things, because that was also, whatever you Get Love A Bad Name.

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That's the first line of that song.

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But this was off the first album and it said Would you be content to see me crying?

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After all those little games you put me through, after all I've done for you, you're lying.

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Wouldn't it be nice to tell the truth?

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Didn't somebody say You're going to take a fall.

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I gave you everything.

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And now here's the curtain call and I'm shot through the heart as I lay there alone in the dark, through the heart.

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It's all part of the game that we call love.

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Now picture that through the ears of a 13 year old girl.

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Oh yeah, and you're like, oh.

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So you write relatable lyrics, which is knowing who your audience is, and I went oh my God, you know what Bon Jovi is.

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He's Taylor Swift.

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Before there was Taylor Swift.

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I was going to say that yeah, yeah, well, they all are, they all are yeah, and so you know.

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And then Foreigner.

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I want to know what love is.

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Oh yeah, right, I mean, come on, there's tons of breakup songs.

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Yes, and they're all popular.

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Because we all break up right and we're all sad during those breakup times.

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We need the music to get us through it.

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Oh yeah, no, they're definitely, that's definitely.

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But Bon Jovi had a lot of things going for it.

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I mean, the looks helped, right, and of course, you know, there's a lot of marketing that we don't see when it comes to local events and getting things and getting invited on other people's programs and doing some of those kinds of things.

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And then there's word of mouth and then there's a little bit of luck.

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Yeah, yeah, there's always a little bit of luck.

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Well, the other thing was because this is back for backing tracks.

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I've seen him twice.

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He was on a Monsters of Rock tour, literally at the end of my street with Van Halen and, I think, the Scorpions and a bunch of other people.

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The guy's got talent, the band is talented and he's got the whole Bruce springsteen telling stories in between songs and stories always work, so that's always fun, yeah, uh so, but it was just so.

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But really the bottom line is if you and this is what tom is kind of saying make the podcast your audience wants to listen to and I know that's kind of a duh, but sometimes we make the podcast that we want to listen to, and you know, and then we hope there are other people like us well, I mean, there's certainly.

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There are ways of making a podcast, like doing it saying, okay, everybody, I need to design it and do it this way because that's what's popular.

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Plenty.

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Every single true crime podcast is that way, every single one of them.

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They all heard Serial and then they all tried to recreate Serial.

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I've been listening to the Wall Street Journal daily.

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They do a twice daily podcast, 15 minutes as a recap of the news.

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They just ripped off NPR.

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I mean it could not be more formulaic of you know, they'll do a new segment and then there's a little fancy music in between.

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You know, and then you move on to the next thing.

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Right, it's a formula.

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You can do a formula podcast and the sweet spot would be to do a formulaic podcast where you like doing the formula, because you do those kinds of things long enough and if you don't like them, you start resenting them and then you start delaying, like I don't want to work on this podcast.

00:17:00.379 --> 00:17:05.833
Now, if you're getting paid to do it, that adds a whole new set of motivations to it.

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Like there are things I would never do at work but I get paid to do them, so I am motivated because they pay me to do those things.

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So I think if you're doing this, if this is your gig and you're doing this and you want to follow a formula, if you don't like the formula, I'm not sure you're going to last very long doing it, especially if it's not pulling the numbers or the money or whatever it is that you think it should be pulling.

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You're just going to burn out on it.

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This is dumb.

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Why am I doing this?

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I just think there's some caveats in there.

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If you like it, you'll last longer.

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I think yeah.

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Craig says, if you bend too much, you know to please your audience, then you might snap.

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Yeah, it's got to be something you want to do and that's kind of the thing where it's kind of tough.

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I mean, we've had people give us feedback on this show and we're like, oh, that's a great suggestion.

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Yeah, we're not going to do it because that's not what we do here.

00:18:02.923 --> 00:18:10.546
You know, john Jemango said he saw Bon Jovi back in 1987 in a little in New Jersey.

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We're from New Jersey, yay, so yeah.

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So that's always fun.

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Well, and those bands, all those 80s bands, did tons of work in the late 70s or early 80s on the road to play at festivals and bars and some of those kinds of things, right, and some of them, you think six, seven, eight years of every night at a bar playing for 15 people and maybe that's where your podcast is now.

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Maybe you're playing in the bar, right, I mean, you're getting your sets down, you're getting your transitions down, you're getting things figured out, you're learning how the business works, you're trying to figure out where your sweet spot is.

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You could just be playing at the bar and what's ahead could still be coming.

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Just, I know this if you quit, it won't happen.

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I can guarantee you Guarantee the only thing in life I can this if you quit, it won't happen.

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I can guarantee.

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You guarantee the only thing in life I can guarantee if you quit, it won't happen.

00:19:09.027 --> 00:19:19.348
Well, I'm working on my next episode for the School of Podcasting and this will be the last one where the topic is me, but it's basically a really long because of my podcast story.

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My last episode was how I went from this technology to this technology to this technology and this one is how, the relationships, how I met this guy who introduced me to Adam Curry, who put me into this spot, which led to the new media expo, which led to kind of things.

00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:43.151
So just pointing out that it's, yes, it's content, but it really some of the magic power of growing your podcast is getting to know other people.

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And I totally lost my train of thought.

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It was here and then it was.

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Well, here you keep thinking and I'll talk and then I'll see your face when you remember it.

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But I think sometimes we think that success is if we work hard enough, we'll have success.

00:20:03.050 --> 00:20:05.767
Now, it depends on how you define success.

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But let's just say being popular or famous or your podcast.

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You can live off the podcast money that you make.

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Let's just consider that success.

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We think if we work hard enough, that's a guarantee and it just isn't.

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Sometimes it's just not our time, sometimes it's just not our time right, sometimes it's just not the place.

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And so I think but you still got to try it, you still got to do it, it just doesn't none of that stuff's.

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I mean in any business.

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This is the way Open a new restaurant, you can work as hard as you want and it still may not work.

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Yeah, my point was I didn't quit because there are a lot of people like Michael Goagan did.

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Grape radio and grape radio was so popular at the time because it was here was again where everybody else is just doing hey, we're not radio.

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Like.

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He really tried to put together a tight panel talking about wine, et cetera, et cetera, and it ended up being it was the first thing that kind of jumped out of the iPod because I forget what airline, but some airline made it available to listen to on the plane and we're like holy cow, which is great.

00:21:11.164 --> 00:21:19.532
And then Michael got tired of talking about wine and the last I heard he's like a park ranger now or something like that, doing something he loves.

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And so it's one thing, because you could say well, dave, you were lucky.

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I think I was probably one of the first 100 podcasters, maybe one of the first 50.

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It was early.

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So, yeah, I got, you know, first mover advantage, but I didn't quit.

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I'm still talking about podcasting, so there is something to luck.

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But you know, I always talk about Cliff Ravenscraft, who's a friend of mine, a good guy, and he did a show about Lost and then the actual CBS radio show started a podcast about the show Lost, and when people search for Lost podcast, they found Cliff because he had a little more SEO going than he did.

00:21:59.970 --> 00:22:04.593
So you could look at Cliff and go, oh man, that was a bunch of luck, yeah, but he held the audience.

00:22:04.593 --> 00:22:09.276
It's one thing to get the audience, it's another one to keep them, and that is another point.

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That's in Tom's book.

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It's like, yeah, you can buy ads, you can do all this stuff, but if you're not making the show that your audience wants to hear, they're going to give you a shot and then you know, swipe left and you're gone.

00:22:22.830 --> 00:22:23.673
It's got me thinking.

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Like I said, I'm only into chapter two of it.

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I think I'd add one more thing to that.

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I also think interest doesn't last forever.

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No, we get a season of this and I think it's very, very rare.

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And maybe you have to if you look at shows like the Simpsons that is.

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That is way to the end of exception instead of the rule, right, that has been allowed to go on for an ever and ever and ever and ever.

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I don't know 85 seasons maybe of that now, at this point, and you, you know you got to think why.

00:23:01.762 --> 00:23:06.993
And it's listen, it's a show like the Simpsons has transcended generations.

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Yeah, like it's those.

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The early kids that were were watching this behind their parents back because they're, you know, they're they're parents in the eighties wouldn't let them watch it because it had controversial.

00:23:19.782 --> 00:23:24.523
Bart Simpson said yeah, it wasn't eat my shorts or something, something like that, yeah.

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So now they're adults and their kids are watching it, right, that's such an exception.

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Very few things like that.

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Most stuff has a comes and goes.

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My daughter is a big Hank Green fan, right, and listen, hank's been through some stuff, yeah, and not only personally in his life, but also in his career.

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He has done a bunch of these things that you know.

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I think even the work that he did on was it's, it's it, it changes, it morphs it, it, it grows, it ends at some point.

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I think that's another bit of this is.

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Oftentimes we just have seasons where we do these things.

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It works for a while and then maybe it's time to move on.

00:24:11.936 --> 00:24:25.510
you know, maybe it's time to do something different well, it's funny how, if you find old stuff, like dave chappelle was on joe rogan, joe rogan is now releasing stuff on YouTube because he wasn't allowed to.

00:24:25.510 --> 00:24:26.913
Oh yeah, older stuff.

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Him and Dave.

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Chappelle, I don't hate Joe Rogan.

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Most of the time I'm just in my head.

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I'm like why didn't you edit this out?

00:24:34.573 --> 00:24:45.092
But it's Dave Chappelle who is like one of my heroes and he said they were talking about how Eddie Murphy is embarrassed by some of the stuff he said and some of his earlier stuff.

00:24:45.092 --> 00:24:56.921
And Dave Chappelle said I look at stand-up from years ago like a photograph, like you look at it and you're like, oh, look at it, man, like man, that's what was going on at the time, right, bell bottoms and whatever you know.

00:24:56.921 --> 00:25:03.767
Or if it's in the 80s, you've got the spiked hair or whatever it's like that was going on at the time and it was acceptable at the time to dress that way.

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And he goes.

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So if somebody is making a joke that you can't tell today, he goes.

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I don't hold them to today's standard, because that's today's standard, that's standard.

00:25:13.013 --> 00:25:13.493
He goes.

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I kind of look at it like, wow, look, what we were able to do back then that we can't do now, you know.

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So it's.

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It's kind of interesting when you you think about people like what's popular now may not be popular in five years.

00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:28.907
Dan LeFebvre is on fire in the chat room here.

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He says the flip of that is true, jim's point sometimes there's an element of luck.

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Some people don't work super hard to get that.

00:25:35.508 --> 00:25:45.894
And then he said but if you find success, you know, and either by hard work or luck or both, to keep success must be able to adapt to the change.

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To that I say that's some shakespeare right there, my friend, that's, uh, it is, it's, it's.

00:25:51.351 --> 00:25:55.425
And jody said, jody said it's, it's not easy.

00:25:55.425 --> 00:25:57.009
Travis uh, what's his name?

00:25:57.009 --> 00:25:59.253
The football player, travis kelsey.

00:25:59.253 --> 00:26:03.688
Kelsey said podcasting is harder than football, you, yeah?

00:26:03.748 --> 00:26:12.630
You know, Got really easy for them for a while, though, Like they could just get on and do During this Taylor Swift phase.

00:26:12.630 --> 00:26:15.586
My daughter listens to that show.

00:26:15.586 --> 00:26:17.731
Oh yeah, it's about football.

00:26:17.731 --> 00:26:25.734
She doesn't give two anythings about football, and so for a moment it got easy for them.

00:26:25.734 --> 00:26:27.801
They could just get in there and do their thing.

00:26:28.663 --> 00:26:36.769
And Randy says and for the record, randy, I just realized Randy deserves a big shout out and being that we're 28 minutes in, you will.

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You'll get that next week.

00:26:37.810 --> 00:26:43.392
I was scrambling this morning trying to find out where the link is to the YouTube thing to update it.

00:26:43.392 --> 00:26:44.383
It was again.

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We're going back to Ecamm next week.

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Kids, I want to be comfortable.

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But he says value is in the eye of the beholder.

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I thought last week was amazing because it showed the power of collaboration with others.

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To me that's not valuable.

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So, yep, it's one man's trash is another man's treasure or whatever.

00:27:01.172 --> 00:27:09.103
Brad Miller says hello from Indy, and he is.

00:27:09.103 --> 00:27:11.026
There's not too many of these going these days.

00:27:11.026 --> 00:27:11.507
He is doing pod.

00:27:11.507 --> 00:27:13.651
Indy will be November 9th in Indianapolis.

00:27:13.651 --> 00:27:23.744
And I say that because I noticed that Joe Pardo, who did Indy pod con or something like that, he was called it Philadelphia, it was really New Jersey.

00:27:23.744 --> 00:27:31.931
New Jersey, it's the theme today and he is not doing that this year and I get the feeling Joe just doesn't want to do it anymore.

00:27:31.931 --> 00:27:39.544
The last one I went to was not well attended and I was to the point where I'm like, look, I love these things, but I'm not driving.

00:27:39.544 --> 00:27:44.008
You know, seven hours to meet eight people, or something like that.

00:27:44.028 --> 00:27:45.048
Can I change the subject real fast?

00:27:45.048 --> 00:27:46.111
You can change the subject.

00:27:46.111 --> 00:27:47.711
Okay, can I get personal real quick?

00:27:47.711 --> 00:27:52.036
Oh yeah, I've already told you this but some of the audience knows.

00:27:52.036 --> 00:28:00.247
Back in 10 years ago I was diagnosed with an enlarged prostate and then had surgery back in December they removed 70% of that.

00:28:00.247 --> 00:28:04.469
I've had several biopsies, had an MRI a couple years ago that showed a shadow.

00:28:04.469 --> 00:28:06.020
Had of that.

00:28:06.020 --> 00:28:09.852
I've had several biopsies, had an MRI a couple years ago that showed a shadow, had an MRI on Tuesday that was completely clear.

00:28:09.852 --> 00:28:10.273
So that's good news.

00:28:10.273 --> 00:28:15.207
You're never totally out of the woods, but just kind of nice to be clear for now.

00:28:15.207 --> 00:28:21.233
I'll probably have to do an MRI again three to five years just to kind of stay on top of it to make sure the prostate cancer is not there.

00:28:21.233 --> 00:28:28.007
But you showed the cancer the podcaster a second ago that had cancer and I thought what a relief it is.

00:28:28.007 --> 00:28:31.921
You don't realize how much of a relief it is until you're there.

00:28:31.921 --> 00:28:43.704
It's kind of one of those things you're like, oh man, I was worrying about that a lot and to get that call on Thursday and say, hey, it's clear for now, where you're back to annual physicals and blood work, it's a huge relief.

00:28:43.704 --> 00:28:48.773
I'll just remind you, gentlemen get your annual physicals, get your blood work done.

00:28:48.773 --> 00:28:51.527
Stay on top of those things.

00:28:51.820 --> 00:28:54.169
It was due to some of that.

00:28:54.169 --> 00:29:07.827
I have always been very diligent to get my physicals and as I started having some of those symptoms, I talked to my doctor about it and then he scheduled me with the urologist and then we spent some time.

00:29:07.827 --> 00:29:14.208
Yeah, there's some poking and some prodding and it's very uncomfortable at times, but very, very worth it.

00:29:14.208 --> 00:29:17.148
And, yes, a negative test is a wonderful thing.

00:29:17.148 --> 00:29:21.151
That's one of those things where you're glad it's negative.

00:29:21.151 --> 00:29:30.967
So, anyways, appreciate you guys and I know many of you have gone on this journey with me and appreciate it, and so just thought I'd give you an update.

00:29:30.967 --> 00:29:32.405
For now things are clear.

00:29:32.405 --> 00:29:34.508
I don't have to get poked and prodded anymore.

00:29:34.508 --> 00:29:36.748
It's kind of nice.

00:29:36.748 --> 00:29:38.546
I'm not going to lie.

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There you go.

00:29:39.008 --> 00:29:41.327
More good news from Dr Brad Miller.

00:29:41.327 --> 00:29:45.083
Iprosthetic cancer was deemed clear in March, a year after surgery.

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So get that test done.

00:29:47.285 --> 00:29:51.268
Get your tests done, gentlemen and ladies, you're not off the hook either.

00:29:51.268 --> 00:29:52.108
You've got your own.

00:29:52.108 --> 00:29:55.551
I hear from many of ladies who can't do mammograms.

00:29:55.551 --> 00:30:02.441
They just are like I can't do it, it just hurts, yeah, and you got to, you got to go in there.

00:30:02.441 --> 00:30:07.432
I know all those tests are uncomfortable, but make sure you're doing them on a regular basis, for sure.

00:30:07.792 --> 00:30:12.787
Yeah, gary says, my dad didn't go, and then when he did, he had colon cancer.

00:30:12.787 --> 00:30:14.490
Yeah, yeah.

00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:17.409
If any of these things are, earlier you catch them, the better.

00:30:17.409 --> 00:30:32.450
You know it's just it sucks when you have them for sure, but you can catch them sooner than later, and later is a hard business to be in, yeah, so it's important to be vigilant on those.

00:30:32.450 --> 00:30:35.388
I know it's uncomfortable, but it's way.

00:30:35.388 --> 00:30:38.244
I'm watching a good friend of mine.

00:30:38.244 --> 00:30:44.228
He has stage four I think it's stage four Non-Hodgkins, and he's going.

00:30:44.228 --> 00:30:50.606
I mean it's hard, yeah, and I'd you know you'd rather catch that a little bit earlier and then you would later.

00:30:50.788 --> 00:30:52.132
So make sure you're doing all those things.

00:30:52.132 --> 00:31:06.231
If you are in that boat, I recommend the website we have cancer, which is a podcast by Lee Silverstein, who had stage four cancer for the better part of a decade, and you know, unfortunately.

00:31:06.231 --> 00:31:12.969
You know he ran a very long race but it caught him eventually, but he was supposed to be dead years before he actually went.

00:31:12.969 --> 00:31:14.372
Yeah and so.

00:31:15.260 --> 00:31:29.733
Yeah, serious subject, one of the Dave, one of the reasons I share it here, I think and the value or the responsibility is a better word that we have as podcasters, I think is oftentimes value or the responsibility is a better word that we have as podcasters, I think, as oftentimes we do influence people and we have to.

00:31:29.733 --> 00:31:35.097
You know, I think some of those times it's you have to use a platform like this to influence people to do things.

00:31:35.097 --> 00:31:37.220
So get it done, get it scheduled.

00:31:37.220 --> 00:31:38.944
Today I did have at work.

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I shared this with a friend at work.

00:31:40.309 --> 00:31:43.568
She went home and shared it with her significant other.

00:31:43.568 --> 00:31:46.001
Her significant other went in and got checked.

00:31:46.001 --> 00:31:53.262
He had early signs of prostate cancer and he was never going to get it checked before.

00:31:53.262 --> 00:31:58.271
Now, prostate cancer that one is one that's workable.

00:31:58.271 --> 00:32:06.513
If it gets out it's bad, but definitely you have in your podcast the ability to influence people.

00:32:06.513 --> 00:32:10.490
If you can do it in a way to encourage them to be healthy, do that for sure.

00:32:11.339 --> 00:32:14.790
We do that every week by recommending people not buy a Blue Yeti.

00:32:14.790 --> 00:32:20.008
Friends, don't let friends buy Blue Yetis.

00:32:20.340 --> 00:32:26.808
I watched the whole Tour de France this year on YouTube the extended highlights so every day I'd come home 30 minutes watch the video.

00:32:26.808 --> 00:32:29.268
It's kind of like watching paint dry, but it was kind of fun.

00:32:29.268 --> 00:32:30.464
I enjoyed it.

00:32:30.464 --> 00:32:33.749
At the end of that, this is NBC's feed.

00:32:33.749 --> 00:32:34.309
Nbc.

00:32:34.309 --> 00:32:40.992
At the end of NBC's feed, they show a 25-second clip of a guy in his office.

00:32:40.992 --> 00:32:43.726
It must have been recorded during COVID.

00:32:43.726 --> 00:32:54.228
He's got a blue Yeti in front of him that I'm not sure is on and he says we have more videos just like this on our YouTube channel.

00:32:54.228 --> 00:32:54.801
Subscribe.

00:32:54.801 --> 00:32:55.705
Boom, he's gone.

00:32:55.705 --> 00:32:58.565
The video quality is terrible.

00:32:58.565 --> 00:33:00.942
The audio quality is terrible.

00:33:00.942 --> 00:33:02.749
The angle is terrible.

00:33:02.749 --> 00:33:08.369
This isn't like they just figured this out in COVID.

00:33:08.369 --> 00:33:11.166
We've been out of this for a while.

00:33:11.166 --> 00:33:14.750
Somebody thought, oh, this clip will be fine.

00:33:14.750 --> 00:33:21.150
Dude, you have hundreds of thousands of people watching these videos on YouTube.

00:33:21.150 --> 00:33:22.488
You're NBC.

00:33:22.488 --> 00:33:27.900
Spend a little bit of money and make something that's a little bit better.

00:33:28.260 --> 00:33:39.727
Well, the funny thing is, NBC raised their revenue on their streaming and now Peacock is only losing $390 million a year.

00:33:39.727 --> 00:33:41.109
That's it and I was like.

00:33:41.109 --> 00:33:47.132
They were like yeah, revenues are up, we're only losing $389 million now and I'm like wait, what Excuse me?

00:33:47.132 --> 00:33:49.026
Yeah, it's scary.

00:33:49.026 --> 00:33:50.306
We do have a question for Jim.

00:33:50.306 --> 00:33:56.752
When I downloaded a Chrome extension, I keep getting pop-ups telling me to switch from Edge to Chrome.

00:33:56.752 --> 00:33:58.086
But does it really matter?

00:33:58.086 --> 00:34:03.586
The extensions are currently working just fine, which means it's time.

00:34:03.605 --> 00:34:18.346
Yeah, I like the way he says he's been waiting for this.

00:34:18.346 --> 00:34:21.237
I like that line.

00:34:21.237 --> 00:34:22.440
Yeah, okay.

00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:27.130
So let's talk about the Edge versus Chrome and the reminders, the pop-up reminders.

00:34:27.130 --> 00:34:29.250
Both of them are very aggressive Reminders.

00:34:29.250 --> 00:34:30.791
Both of them are very aggressive.

00:34:30.811 --> 00:34:39.240
If you're using, your default browser is Edge and you download something from Chrome, it's going to say, hey, wouldn't you like to use Chrome?

00:34:39.240 --> 00:34:41.043
It's the other way around.

00:34:41.043 --> 00:34:53.215
If you've been using Chrome and it's your default, windows will start prompting you hey, don't you just you want to make Edge your default browser.

00:34:53.215 --> 00:35:00.476
There had been some shenanigans going on with Microsoft for a while where, even if you set your default browser to Chrome, it would open everything in Edge, even though you said open it in Chrome.

00:35:00.476 --> 00:35:03.824
Depending on your operating system that you're using.

00:35:03.824 --> 00:35:12.518
You know, whether you're using Windows 10 or Windows 11, depending on the settings that you have in your browser and the way those are set up.

00:35:12.518 --> 00:35:14.400
Those don't always guarantee things are going to work.

00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:15.362
Does it matter?

00:35:15.362 --> 00:35:17.577
No, ultimately, it doesn't matter.

00:35:17.577 --> 00:35:20.420
They're both Chromium-based browsers.

00:35:20.420 --> 00:35:22.317
They're both spying on you.

00:35:22.317 --> 00:35:24.998
Let's just be really, really clear about this.

00:35:24.998 --> 00:35:29.896
They are massively spying on you, right, passively spying on you, right.

00:35:29.896 --> 00:35:40.715
Both are terrible when it comes to allowing not real bad things, but certainly real bad marketing things happening to you.

00:35:40.735 --> 00:35:41.778
You can go into the settings.

00:35:41.778 --> 00:35:46.391
This isn't necessarily a tech show, but you can go into the settings and try to turn those reminders off and such.

00:35:46.391 --> 00:35:48.335
There are some ways to do that.

00:35:48.335 --> 00:35:50.360
Google that or look on YouTube.

00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:51.983
There'll be some videos that show you how to do it.

00:35:51.983 --> 00:35:52.804
Do you need to worry about it?

00:35:52.804 --> 00:35:53.833
I wouldn't worry about it.

00:35:53.833 --> 00:35:55.518
That much Is it annoying?

00:35:55.518 --> 00:36:00.159
Yes, and so do what you can do to get those pop-ups shut off.

00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:08.394
I'm just here to tell you if you're on Windows and you're using Chrome, microsoft's going to hound you and you may not be able to turn that hounding off.

00:36:08.394 --> 00:36:22.721
Now, with some of the newer Windows 11 stuff, they're slowly starting to shut some of that stuff down because they're getting so much negative feedback, but it could be annoying for a while and do your best to dig in, find the settings based on the version you have, and you should be able to get that shut off.

00:36:23.110 --> 00:36:26.340
Yeah, thoughts on the Brave browser.

00:36:26.829 --> 00:36:33.219
Yeah, so I use Brave, especially use Brave for YouTube, because it blocks all the ads.

00:36:34.831 --> 00:36:36.074
And so just by default.

00:36:36.074 --> 00:36:39.123
Now I say that two weeks ago I did an update.

00:36:39.123 --> 00:36:43.822
Youtube is doing some things now where they're forcing the ads in at the beginning.

00:36:43.822 --> 00:36:47.559
So when I click to play the ad it takes a while for the.

00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:58.610
It's like it's not instant, and then they throw not a video ad, but they throw a pop-up ad in your not a pop-up, but it's an ad, it's a still ad in your browser before the video plays.

00:36:58.610 --> 00:37:02.061
Is the experience great on YouTube and Brave?

00:37:02.061 --> 00:37:02.663
Not right now.

00:37:02.663 --> 00:37:09.382
Now what will happen is the Brave engineers will figure out what the YouTube engineers are doing and then they'll fix that.

00:37:09.952 --> 00:37:13.911
I would think Brave is, by nature, a very secure browser.

00:37:13.911 --> 00:37:16.262
They kind of live in this world of security.

00:37:16.262 --> 00:37:19.512
They by default try to block all the shenanigans that are going on.

00:37:19.512 --> 00:37:34.411
If you've been in Chrome or you've been in Edge full-time for the last couple of years, you may get on Brave and things that you used to go to just may not work because you're used to being spied on all the time, like you just don't.

00:37:34.411 --> 00:37:38.222
You don't have any idea how much those browsers are spying on you, right?

00:37:38.222 --> 00:37:40.056
It's not necessarily a bad thing.

00:37:40.056 --> 00:37:44.362
They just want to know where you're going and who you are and what you're doing, so they can send relevant ads to you, right?

00:37:44.362 --> 00:37:46.471
So which is spying?

00:37:46.471 --> 00:37:53.418
So you may get on Brave and it may like things that used to work don't and you're like, oh, this is frustrating.

00:37:53.418 --> 00:38:00.646
It is also Chromium-based, so you can use your extensions like you would in Edge or in Chrome.

00:38:01.586 --> 00:38:10.601
The only other today, in today's world, the only real browser that's not Chromium-based for the most part and there's a few caveats in there it's Safari.

00:38:10.601 --> 00:38:25.000
It's they have their own, they have their own engine doing things, and they're actually Apple is actually touting that they they're a more secure browser, and in some cases, that might be true.

00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:27.378
Now they might be spying on you too.

00:38:27.378 --> 00:38:28.793
So you know.

00:38:28.793 --> 00:38:30.876
So the listen the world of browsers.

00:38:30.876 --> 00:38:31.440
If you want to be, you know.

00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:32.106
So listen, the world of browsers.

00:38:32.106 --> 00:38:35.021
If you want to be anonymous out there, it's hard.

00:38:35.021 --> 00:38:37.175
Yeah, you really got to work at it.

00:38:37.175 --> 00:38:39.534
So, so good luck on that.

00:38:39.534 --> 00:38:42.434
You can yeah, you can, pay for some things.

00:38:42.434 --> 00:38:44.735
Randy Black says Safari for the win.

00:38:44.735 --> 00:38:49.271
If you're on a Mac and you're using Safari, good luck with StreamYard.

00:38:49.271 --> 00:38:50.331
It Using Safari, good luck with StreamYard.

00:38:50.331 --> 00:38:50.650
It doesn't work.

00:38:50.650 --> 00:38:52.391
It wants a Chromium-based browser.

00:38:52.391 --> 00:38:54.813
Yeah, some of those kinds of things.

00:38:54.813 --> 00:38:56.275
So that may have changed.

00:38:56.275 --> 00:39:00.277
It's been a while since I've seen that, but the world of browsers is an interesting one.

00:39:00.976 --> 00:39:06.260
And then AI goes to college, says DuckDuckGo has a browser that's pretty private.

00:39:06.260 --> 00:39:10.282
There's nothing that's private, totally.

00:39:10.282 --> 00:39:13.764
Yeah, let's just be real clear about this.

00:39:13.764 --> 00:39:19.527
If you think you're going to be on the internet and be anonymous, it's just not true.

00:39:19.527 --> 00:39:22.050
There are so many.

00:39:22.050 --> 00:39:22.271
Listen.

00:39:22.271 --> 00:39:31.625
If you think your phone isn't spying on you right now, in five minutes I'm going to get an ad for DuckDuckGo off.

00:39:31.625 --> 00:39:35.097
You know, somewhere in my Facebook feed or in my.

00:39:35.097 --> 00:39:39.170
Yeah, you can be completely anonymous if you just don't use anything.

00:39:39.170 --> 00:39:45.878
But most stuff is spying on you, you know, and it's a lot of work to go in and turn off.

00:39:45.878 --> 00:39:52.355
I mean, I've even heard of people turning off the microphone app or the microphone access in Facebook.

00:39:52.355 --> 00:39:59.898
They turn it off in in on their iphone or on android and it's yeah like.

00:40:00.759 --> 00:40:06.472
So privacy is an illusion that we have, right, it's just an illusion.

00:40:06.472 --> 00:40:08.358
We don't really have any privacy.

00:40:08.358 --> 00:40:09.300
Yeah, people are.

00:40:09.300 --> 00:40:11.715
There are some things you can do to kind of protect yourself.

00:40:11.715 --> 00:40:20.159
But just realize, live in a world where most of the time and it's not in, in most cases, it's not malicious, they just want to sell you things.

00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:21.789
Right, that's all you know.

00:40:21.789 --> 00:40:22.530
They just want to sell you.

00:40:22.530 --> 00:40:27.474
The most annoying and I'll end, I'll end it with this, the most annoying part is you buy something.

00:40:27.474 --> 00:40:29.376
So you go to Amazon, you buy something.

00:40:29.376 --> 00:40:31.980
It places a cookie and then all those cookies get seen.

00:40:31.980 --> 00:40:37.844
You buy it and then it starts showing up in all your ads for the next week or so.

00:40:37.844 --> 00:40:40.047
That's bad marketing, friends.

00:40:40.047 --> 00:40:42.150
That is just bad marketing.

00:40:42.452 --> 00:40:55.231
There has been Dave, a big movement and Google is kind of one of the companies behind this in this idea of cookies and cookie setting and what's allowed and not allowed.

00:40:55.231 --> 00:41:02.914
So you may be noticing a lot of sites are throwing up their hey, will you allow cookies partial full?

00:41:02.914 --> 00:41:04.898
You're like, why, all of a sudden?

00:41:04.898 --> 00:41:11.516
Is this Because there's been some things going on behind the scenes to give some transparency around these cookies?

00:41:11.516 --> 00:41:21.481
The problem is it's just giving you more options and options equal confusion, and so people have never been more confused about their cookie options than there are right now.

00:41:21.481 --> 00:41:22.170
Then what do you do?

00:41:22.170 --> 00:41:23.172
Ah, just accept them all.

00:41:23.172 --> 00:41:26.862
It's like I don't have time to look through all these cookie things.

00:41:26.862 --> 00:41:30.559
Exactly it right, and we're right back to where we were before.

00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.362
Right, yeah, Jeez.

00:41:32.730 --> 00:41:39.204
Dan says, for browser-based recording, I found using good old Google Chrome tends to work the best with fewer bugs.

00:41:39.204 --> 00:41:40.753
So yeah, it's one of those things.

00:41:40.753 --> 00:41:42.280
If you don't want to use it, fine.

00:41:43.192 --> 00:41:48.233
You can go incognito in Chrome, yeah, and that kind of gives you some.

00:41:48.233 --> 00:41:57.161
But then listen, for most people, dave, browsing a world where your browser doesn't know you, that sounded like a movie thing.

00:41:57.161 --> 00:42:04.690
Browsing in a world, browsing in a world when your browser doesn't know who you are it's an awful experience for most people.

00:42:04.690 --> 00:42:16.219
We are so used to our browser knowing who we are, including, if you use a password manager, it's filling in passwords for us, it's setting preferences, it's doing some things.

00:42:16.219 --> 00:42:18.327
Go, let's just try it one time.

00:42:18.327 --> 00:42:28.496
Go completely incognito, get on a VPN, change your IP address and go completely incognito and then try to do anything that you normally do.

00:42:28.496 --> 00:42:29.739
You'll be.

00:42:29.739 --> 00:42:31.121
For most people, it's frustrating.

00:42:31.121 --> 00:42:33.755
You're like why are they asking me all these questions?

00:42:33.755 --> 00:42:35.077
Well, they don't know who you are.

00:42:35.077 --> 00:42:37.342
You know they don't know who you are.

00:42:37.722 --> 00:42:59.677
Well, randy says cookies were great, you know, for maintaining user sessions but when advertising guys jumped in, yeah, jumped the shark Marketers they ruin everything they do and google has now said they've given up their attempts to eliminate third-party cookies.

00:42:59.677 --> 00:43:03.108
Last week the eu was pushing too hard back against them because of the ad companies complaining yeah, yeah, yeah, as soon as well that.

00:43:03.108 --> 00:43:09.918
And if, if apple ever has that vpn where it blocks ip addresses podcasters are screwed, there goes your stats like right out the window.

00:43:10.539 --> 00:43:16.394
So yeah yeah, we, we need some of those, those tracking systems.

00:43:16.394 --> 00:43:20.141
Right, we need those things to get the numbers we need to get.

00:43:20.141 --> 00:43:21.431
So we're like track.

00:43:21.431 --> 00:43:35.913
Everything I mean is, dave, is if I'm, if, if I give you an mp3 and I want to know where you quit listening, I have to put something on there that tracks you so you can do so.

00:43:35.913 --> 00:43:36.653
I can do that.

00:43:36.653 --> 00:43:48.612
I mean, by the nature of that technology, it's tracking you in some, some form or fashion, whether you're on the site and it's progressive streaming or you've down.

00:43:48.612 --> 00:43:54.844
It would be even worse if you downloaded it and it was tracking you, not a lot do that, but that would be creepy right For sure.

00:43:56.371 --> 00:44:00.360
But you're agreeing to some form of tracking?

00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:01.521
It makes it convenient.

00:44:01.521 --> 00:44:03.476
This is the problem right Between security and convenience.

00:44:03.476 --> 00:44:06.900
Makes it super convenient for us to have all those.

00:44:06.900 --> 00:44:14.018
Whenever I have a technology problem and my technology team goes hey, can you clear your cache in your cookies?

00:44:14.018 --> 00:44:20.561
I am like you're hurting me because now I have to log back into every site.

00:44:20.561 --> 00:44:22.797
It doesn't know who I am anymore.

00:44:23.150 --> 00:44:27.655
Yeah, dr says the same thing, yeah, yeah, yeah, and she'll actually go.

00:44:27.655 --> 00:44:30.054
Oh, yeah, yeah, I cleared them and then she didn't.

00:44:30.869 --> 00:44:39.420
Unfortunately it does fix problems Like I've done it, and then the problem goes away and you're like, can you fix your site so I don't have to do that?

00:44:39.420 --> 00:44:41.536
I don't want to clear my cache on my cookies.

00:44:42.619 --> 00:44:49.617
Yeah, I know right now my Chrome is saying there's an error and it isn't syncing, which I really don't care.

00:44:49.617 --> 00:44:56.438
But to do that, to re-enable the sync, it has to clear everything, and I did that.

00:44:56.438 --> 00:45:01.036
Once and all of a sudden I had to go back and find all my passwords and all sorts of stuff that was.

00:45:01.036 --> 00:45:13.601
You know that I either had I don't know, because I use one password for most of my paths but I just remember there was a lot of stuff that apparently I didn't realize I had saved somewhere and it was in the browser and it was making things easier.

00:45:13.601 --> 00:45:16.918
And now it wasn't and I was like, oh, note to self, don't do that again.

00:45:16.918 --> 00:45:20.460
I'm like it's not, the squeeze isn't worth the juice.

00:45:20.731 --> 00:45:23.280
No, and remember you're transmitting an IP address.

00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:27.320
In most cases they know who you are from your IP address.

00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:34.552
Now, some cases your ISP changes that and so it changes from time to time.

00:45:34.552 --> 00:45:38.420
But you could use a VPN and mask your IP address on a fairly regular basis if you wanted to.

00:45:38.420 --> 00:45:41.414
That can cause all its own problems.

00:45:41.414 --> 00:45:44.844
Oftentimes a VPN will come in, maybe from like.

00:45:44.844 --> 00:45:53.498
For me, they either hit Kansas City or Denver, so then I go to weathercom and it thinks I'm in Denver, right, so then I got to change the setting.

00:45:53.498 --> 00:46:00.927
You know again security, convenience, security, that's it, yeah.

00:46:01.210 --> 00:46:11.797
I was at a comedy show Well, it doesn't really matter, but I was watching one and this comedian was talking about this and he just started shouting sex toys.

00:46:11.797 --> 00:46:14.719
He's like, if he goes, if everybody could hold up their phone please.

00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:16.858
And he's like, and he just starts screaming.

00:46:16.858 --> 00:46:24.639
And so he's like he goes wait till you go home and, like Alexa is going to be asking you, would you like this?

00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:26.710
You know, should I add that to your bucket or whatever?

00:46:26.891 --> 00:46:33.041
So yeah, that may not work, Like in that case, some of those words are blacklisted.

00:46:33.041 --> 00:46:34.670
Yeah, yeah, so you can't.

00:46:34.670 --> 00:46:35.532
You know you can't.

00:46:35.532 --> 00:46:40.036
They won't show up that way, those kinds of ads.

00:46:40.036 --> 00:46:47.123
You may have said, hey, you can't serve me those kinds of ads and sometimes the Facebook policies block them, and such like that.

00:46:47.123 --> 00:46:49.724
But yes, yeah, that's the that.

00:46:49.724 --> 00:46:53.097
Indeed, that indeed can happen.

00:46:53.501 --> 00:46:59.759
We do need as we're talking about passwords in the chat room, we do need a better solution for passwords.

00:46:59.759 --> 00:47:05.273
Like even having a central site where all your passwords are stored is horrible.

00:47:05.273 --> 00:47:07.413
I use it, I do this.

00:47:07.413 --> 00:47:09.755
In fact, I have two that do it.

00:47:09.755 --> 00:47:10.498
It's terrible.

00:47:10.498 --> 00:47:11.552
It's the worst.

00:47:11.552 --> 00:47:13.780
It's one of the worst things to have for security.

00:47:13.780 --> 00:47:27.603
Now all your passwords can be hacked with one password, yeah Right, and you know, the security depends on you and some of the things that you have to do and your security, hygiene and some of those kinds of things associated with it.

00:47:27.603 --> 00:47:30.911
Those are terrible, associated with it.

00:47:30.911 --> 00:47:31.291
Those are terrible.

00:47:31.291 --> 00:47:34.981
We've got to come up with a better way of doing passwords than people remembering these.

00:47:34.981 --> 00:47:51.452
You know it works, but it takes a picture of me and it asks for a pin Two forms right, or a fingerprint, and a pin or a fingerprint and a card, something you are and something you have, you know, something along those lines.

00:47:51.452 --> 00:47:54.822
It needs to be better than it is today.

00:47:54.822 --> 00:47:56.476
We got a long ways to go on that for sure.

00:47:56.777 --> 00:48:01.440
Yeah Well, one of the things I don't want to clear out ever are my awesome supporters.

00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:06.177
Oh yeah, and in theory it's saying it's trying to connect to your.

00:48:06.958 --> 00:48:09.463
Let's see if I can hear me, that's okay, just keep going.

00:48:09.643 --> 00:48:10.952
Yeah, very interesting.

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00:50:20.635 --> 00:50:22.398
So actually I have a question.

00:50:22.398 --> 00:50:30.518
I have a question Can you think of any app that you can only use because you're on a PC?

00:50:30.518 --> 00:50:38.577
The reason I ask is my Dell is getting old and I was like I probably should replace that PC and I was like, what do I use on that?

00:50:38.577 --> 00:50:45.614
And I was like the only thing I could think of was an MP3 tag thing, which I have one on Mac.

00:50:46.411 --> 00:50:49.235
So it's not like you can find an equivalent.

00:50:49.235 --> 00:50:52.179
You can always find an equivalent, even if it's Windows only.

00:50:52.179 --> 00:50:58.242
I don't know of too many apps that are Windows only and not on the actual app itself, not made for both.

00:50:58.242 --> 00:50:59.103
I'm sure there are.

00:50:59.103 --> 00:51:02.938
I'm sure there are, but you can almost always find some kind of.

00:51:02.938 --> 00:51:04.242
I run both.

00:51:04.242 --> 00:51:09.563
Listen, I'm on a mini now and then for some of the production I use a Windows PC.

00:51:09.563 --> 00:51:13.719
I just don't even see the difference between the two anymore.

00:51:14.650 --> 00:51:14.751
Yeah.

00:51:14.771 --> 00:51:18.606
Daniel's asking when I say PC, do I mean personal computer or do I mean a?

00:51:18.606 --> 00:51:19.789
Yeah, you mean a Windows box?

00:51:19.789 --> 00:51:50.199
I need a Windows machine, yeah, and I was like, if I buy one, it's obviously not going to be the top of the line, it's not going to be the bottom of the line, it'll be the middle of the line and it's probably not going to be in my office, because what I have right now is my left screen is Mac, my right screen is PC, and then I have a tool I use to share one mouse between them, which is pretty good 94% of the time, but there are times that I'm like wait, hold on and shake the mouse and do this.

00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.777
Okay, there we go, and it's just kind of annoying.

00:51:53.329 --> 00:51:59.675
Dan says 3D Max was always Windows only, which is why I was the only PC guy in a Mac studio for many, many years.

00:51:59.675 --> 00:52:02.217
Yeah, so I don't think I have anything.

00:52:02.217 --> 00:52:05.038
Rich Graham says QuickBooks on a PC.

00:52:05.038 --> 00:52:09.438
See, I use Waves for my accounting, so that's not a thing.

00:52:09.438 --> 00:52:15.534
Craig from AI accounting so that's not a thing.

00:52:15.534 --> 00:52:18.943
Craig from ai goes to college, says I ran both for a couple months then disconnected the pc.

00:52:18.963 --> 00:52:19.606
Now it's a nice stand for my cat.

00:52:19.606 --> 00:52:21.853
Yeah, keep some warm the otherwise it would be in the closet.

00:52:21.853 --> 00:52:25.085
Yeah, and office used to be terrible on mac.

00:52:25.085 --> 00:52:26.269
You know they did this on purpose.

00:52:26.269 --> 00:52:29.297
When microsoft did this on purpose, it was always the.

00:52:29.297 --> 00:52:31.601
The office stuff was always worse.

00:52:31.601 --> 00:52:33.213
Now that's with sachin adela.

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That has all changed.

00:52:34.197 --> 00:52:39.295
He was his thing, was good everywhere, in fact, sometimes better on mac.

00:52:39.335 --> 00:52:49.599
So yeah, that used to be the case, not so much anymore yeah, but it's just dawning on me that I'm like you know my, my job, I use my mac.

00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:56.661
All my audio podcasting stuff I do on my Mac, and really what the PC is doing right now it's running Netflix.

00:52:56.661 --> 00:53:07.224
And here's why On a PC there is some sort of plug-in that allows me to speed up any kind of video.

00:53:07.224 --> 00:53:08.576
Netflix has a built-in.

00:53:08.576 --> 00:53:14.137
If you're watching online, netflix has a speed control, but I have a plug-in that lets her an extension.

00:53:14.137 --> 00:53:17.655
I guess I should say that I can run on a PC.

00:53:17.655 --> 00:53:19.873
The Mac won't let me install it because of privacy.

00:53:19.873 --> 00:53:24.452
So apparently again they're spying on me, but I'm like I don't care, I can watch something at 2x.

00:53:24.452 --> 00:53:39.672
So that's the only thing I can think of that I can do on a pc that I can't do on a mac, and I'm just like it would be nice to have dual screens again and I'm like I'm not really using the pc e-cam for you would be a big deal yeah, but that's, that's it.

00:53:39.713 --> 00:53:41.456
I'm like I can.

00:53:41.456 --> 00:53:46.431
If I was going pc only, yeah, I would lose e-cam, but I'm like I'm not.

00:53:46.431 --> 00:53:49.737
I I think from this point forward I'm a mac guy, I just.

00:53:49.737 --> 00:53:54.856
The other thing that I don't do a ton of, but it's nice, is the integration.

00:53:54.856 --> 00:54:00.813
If you are a person that has an iphone and, in my case, an apple watch, they all kind of tie in.

00:54:00.813 --> 00:54:08.157
It's nice when there are times when it's like it sends you a code and I can just double click my watch and it's like, oh, you're in, that's you.

00:54:08.157 --> 00:54:09.983
And I'm like, oh, that's kind of fun.

00:54:09.983 --> 00:54:14.898
So daniel says video speed controller is the chrome extension I use.

00:54:14.898 --> 00:54:18.992
I think that might be the one I use, but I I just remember something on a mac.

00:54:18.992 --> 00:54:25.012
It was saying wait, this is, you know, it's spying too much on you, basically whatever it was doing.

00:54:25.012 --> 00:54:30.623
So I was just thinking about it because I, uh, I'm like I like both.

00:54:30.884 --> 00:54:33.132
I have both right.

00:54:33.132 --> 00:54:35.054
So the podcasting stuff gets done on a mini.

00:54:35.054 --> 00:54:40.300
And then I have a pretty powerful gaming Windows box that does a variety of things.

00:54:40.300 --> 00:54:45.606
I did some crypto stuff on it for a while, but I love having both.

00:54:45.606 --> 00:54:47.894
I just it's just handy.

00:54:47.894 --> 00:54:58.516
And I have a laptop here that runs a screen, but when I need to go other places I just unplug this from it and did we go away.

00:54:58.516 --> 00:54:59.079
Are we still there?

00:54:59.079 --> 00:54:59.840
Oh, that's interesting.

00:54:59.989 --> 00:55:01.454
Oh, I forgot to hit the wrong button.

00:55:01.454 --> 00:55:05.759
You were still here, but the fun thing was see, I need to do this.

00:55:05.759 --> 00:55:16.536
What you don't know is right now I am designing a scene because I want to share my screen here in a second and I was like I forgot to turn on the.

00:55:16.536 --> 00:55:20.344
Let me go backstage and do this so nobody sees what I'm doing.

00:55:21.891 --> 00:55:23.516
Yeah, I have an M1.

00:55:23.516 --> 00:55:24.298
Randy's talking.

00:55:24.298 --> 00:55:29.577
He says the Mac Mini with the M2 Pro is sweet, great compliment to my MacBook Air.

00:55:29.577 --> 00:55:37.561
And yes, indeed, it looks like the mini M4 may be coming out later this year, maybe early next.

00:55:37.561 --> 00:55:40.038
That will be an upgrade for me for sure.

00:55:40.038 --> 00:55:41.516
I will be making that jump.

00:55:41.516 --> 00:55:43.394
I'll trade in my M1.

00:55:43.394 --> 00:55:44.157
I will get an M4.

00:55:44.157 --> 00:55:46.637
I think that's going to be where I want to go.

00:55:46.637 --> 00:55:47.519
Do I need to?

00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:48.612
No, I think I could.

00:55:48.612 --> 00:55:48.952
Probably.

00:55:48.952 --> 00:55:54.804
The mini does just great for what I use for processing video and all those kinds of things.

00:55:54.804 --> 00:55:56.235
It's fast enough for me.

00:55:56.235 --> 00:56:02.498
Do I want to to stay current with what Apple is doing with their hardware?

00:56:02.498 --> 00:56:03.221
Yeah, I do.

00:56:03.221 --> 00:56:04.775
I do a lot.

00:56:04.775 --> 00:56:09.518
And because I use both Windows and Mac, I don't see.

00:56:09.518 --> 00:56:15.195
Yeah, the closeout button is on different sides of the left versus right on the.

00:56:15.195 --> 00:56:17.300
You know it's british versus american.

00:56:17.340 --> 00:56:38.541
Driving is all it really is, but I don't I hardly see any difference between the two anymore well, you know the other thing I say, that is, I'm using a windows keyboard on a mac, oh sure, and I've told it that the Windows key or the control key one of them is the command key yeah, but it's not the same.

00:56:38.541 --> 00:56:44.518
It kind of is, but there are times when I'm like wait, and the other thing that drives me nuts is I just buy a Mac keyboard, dave.

00:56:44.518 --> 00:56:48.065
Yeah, that's what I might do $99 for a freaking keyboard.

00:56:48.106 --> 00:56:52.701
No, they're expensive, but they'll last you literally forever.

00:56:52.701 --> 00:56:59.414
That's what I hear, although a $20 keyboard will last you forever too, unless you spill something into it, but I would go.

00:56:59.414 --> 00:57:01.016
My Mac keyboard went bad.

00:57:01.016 --> 00:57:02.114
I need to replace it as well.

00:57:02.114 --> 00:57:06.356
I have a Windows on here and it's okay, but I should just have a Mac keyboard.

00:57:06.510 --> 00:57:10.534
Yeah, randy has a great point 12 months no interest using the Apple card.

00:57:10.534 --> 00:57:13.679
That's what I did to get my Mac mini and then I just don't.

00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:18.144
Once it was paid off I'm like I need to cancel it probably, or just Nice way to do it.

00:57:18.445 --> 00:57:19.405
No, don't cancel the card.

00:57:19.405 --> 00:57:21.418
It's helpful on the iPhone.

00:57:21.418 --> 00:57:22.208
You can sometimes try just.

00:57:22.228 --> 00:57:22.329
Yeah.

00:57:22.510 --> 00:57:24.157
Chick, chick, hey, boom, you're done.

00:57:33.630 --> 00:57:42.505
You don't have to move my pinky one key over when I'm on the mac and I'm constantly on the pc going windows c and like, and then the little option button pops up and I'm like that's true, that's driving me nuts.

00:57:42.626 --> 00:57:43.650
Copy and paste.

00:57:43.650 --> 00:57:46.983
We talked about this a lot on home gadget geeks when I first started going back.

00:57:46.983 --> 00:58:01.251
Copy and paste is another one of those things that's a little bit different between two, and so now it's even worse because I'm using Synergy as a keyboard mouse right between the two.

00:58:01.492 --> 00:58:06.021
Yeah, so that accentuates the problem even more.

00:58:06.021 --> 00:58:08.436
So I got to remember I go on Windows hit.

00:58:08.436 --> 00:58:15.452
You know, if I do the Windows key C or Windows key V on the Windows, it's going to.

00:58:15.452 --> 00:58:16.577
On Mac it's going to do it.

00:58:16.577 --> 00:58:20.958
On Windows, it's going to pop up the copy paste dialogue button.

00:58:20.958 --> 00:58:21.739
Hey, which one?

00:58:21.739 --> 00:58:23.543
And it's okay, it's okay.

00:58:24.092 --> 00:58:24.735
You figure it out.

00:58:24.735 --> 00:58:26.454
Yeah, it's so that was.

00:58:26.454 --> 00:58:27.610
Thank you for that, I was.

00:58:27.610 --> 00:58:30.556
I really don't think I'm going to buy a piece, I just need to get.

00:58:30.556 --> 00:58:41.280
I have a lot of files that I've moved from PC to PC to like they're all archives, and I just need to throw those in the cloud.

00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:42.434
You don't have to worry about them.

00:58:42.434 --> 00:58:43.838
Yep, all right.

00:58:43.838 --> 00:58:45.135
So another quick question here.

00:58:45.135 --> 00:58:48.552
This was from Reddit how do you get out of a creative rut?

00:58:48.552 --> 00:59:01.922
So, specifically, if you found yourself having a lack of motivation, or maybe you realize that you've been making content that you just don't feel that passionate about, how do you go about getting back to your roots and enjoying the process of podcasting again?

00:59:01.922 --> 00:59:08.090
I was like, hmm, that might be, go back to kind of what you were talking about In the beginning.

00:59:08.090 --> 00:59:16.125
Yeah, like sometimes you just change and maybe you're just not you know, it just doesn't you know, float your boat.

00:59:16.690 --> 00:59:22.838
You and I have this conversation about once a year behind the scenes, when we're connecting, we're like, is there anything new to say?

00:59:22.838 --> 00:59:27.273
Like, is there when we think about podcasting, is there any?

00:59:27.273 --> 00:59:28.735
We, we, every week, we say a variation of the same thing.

00:59:28.735 --> 00:59:29.536
You know it's different for us.

00:59:29.536 --> 00:59:31.018
Week we say a variation of the same thing.

00:59:31.018 --> 00:59:35.324
You know it's different for us because we love interacting with the chat room.

00:59:35.324 --> 00:59:37.425
We love, you know you.

00:59:37.425 --> 00:59:42.101
You add as much value, you being the chat room for those who are listening live.

00:59:42.101 --> 00:59:42.985
It's our third person.

00:59:42.985 --> 00:59:51.960
Yeah, you add as much value to the show as we bring, sometimes and sometimes not, but sometimes, yes, and then you can put a different spin.

00:59:51.960 --> 01:00:02.119
I mean, every once in a while something changes, but you know how boring would it be if we just regurgitated the news in a very factual way every week.

01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:03.715
We add our own spin to it, you know.

01:00:03.996 --> 01:00:07.570
Yeah, our chat room is nerdy and I love it.

01:00:07.570 --> 01:00:09.096
Well, daniel's a little nerdy too.

01:00:09.096 --> 01:00:11.112
Yeah, daniel says I got a DAS.

01:00:11.112 --> 01:00:13.795
They're talking about servers to store your files.

01:00:13.795 --> 01:00:17.719
Daniel got a DAS instead of a NAS because the DAS function.

01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:34.333
And he just goes on and I was like I know what a server is, I know the concept of sharing files and such, but I was like I have no idea the difference between a DAS and a NAS or Sassafras or anything else that rhymes with that Sassafras good what Dan says.

01:00:34.532 --> 01:00:37.101
He says what I've done to get out of a creative rut.

01:00:37.101 --> 01:00:43.043
Take a break, step back, come back the next day or week or month with fresh eyes.

01:00:43.043 --> 01:00:45.539
Yeah, sometimes that's what it takes.

01:00:45.539 --> 01:00:49.882
You almost need a chance to miss it, like to kind of refresh.

01:00:49.882 --> 01:00:51.476
Like why do we even talk about this?

01:00:51.476 --> 01:00:54.034
So there we goandy's filling me in.

01:00:54.034 --> 01:01:00.730
Das is a disk attached storage where a nas is network attached storage.

01:01:00.730 --> 01:01:01.271
There we go.

01:01:01.391 --> 01:01:15.474
Not we talk about education on this show, so there we go, it's just a way of choosing where the data is gonna live, right and how and how hardware wise, how you're accessing it, and so you know you can get it.

01:01:15.474 --> 01:01:29.699
Listen, if you're not with data, if you're not, if you don't lean towards the technical side, you should go with the easiest possible solution that works for you.

01:01:29.699 --> 01:01:36.367
Don't get too caught up in the NAS DAS cloud.

01:01:36.367 --> 01:01:37.472
I mean, don't get too caught up.

01:01:37.472 --> 01:01:45.597
Figure out the one that works for you and then use it, because oftentimes I had a friend buy a Synology, which is a NAS box.

01:01:45.597 --> 01:01:47.782
It's its own piece of hardware.

01:01:47.782 --> 01:01:53.121
You put hard drives in it, you can set up software on it, and so you start using that thing.

01:01:53.121 --> 01:01:59.900
And then a year later you're like I don't even know how to get into it, I haven't looked at it, it just works.

01:01:59.900 --> 01:02:01.751
And that's one of those things.

01:02:01.751 --> 01:02:07.157
If you're not using them every day, that might be like now, okay, you got to sit down and figure it out.

01:02:07.157 --> 01:02:15.626
Or if you're going to buy a piece of hardware like that, you might want to build in some routines to check it on a regular basis just to know what's going on.

01:02:16.530 --> 01:02:21.918
Listen, it becomes another box for you, so you might want to just take it to the cloud.

01:02:21.918 --> 01:02:24.820
Now that comes with all its own thing.

01:02:24.820 --> 01:02:26.936
How much data do you have?

01:02:26.936 --> 01:02:28.135
How much are you putting in the cloud?

01:02:28.135 --> 01:02:31.360
So just make sure it's easy enough for you.

01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:34.518
You're not over-engineering your backup solution.

01:02:34.518 --> 01:02:35.942
You're highly technical.

01:02:35.942 --> 01:02:37.615
Dan says he loves this analogy.

01:02:37.615 --> 01:02:41.139
It's a great box, but it's fairly technical.

01:02:41.139 --> 01:02:42.952
Right, it's fairly.

01:02:42.952 --> 01:02:46.418
It's another operating system that you have to.

01:02:46.418 --> 01:02:47.961
How do I log into it?

01:02:47.961 --> 01:02:48.764
How do I use it?

01:02:48.764 --> 01:02:50.052
How do I set these things up?

01:02:50.052 --> 01:02:51.856
Can I set it and forget it?

01:02:51.856 --> 01:02:53.402
Can you?

01:02:53.402 --> 01:02:55.289
I don't know, it all depends on you.

01:02:55.289 --> 01:02:57.896
With backup, make sure it's easy for you.

01:02:57.896 --> 01:03:00.784
I've never heard of synology synology.

01:03:00.784 --> 01:03:04.715
Yeah, it's a nas, it's a qnap synology.

01:03:04.715 --> 01:03:08.563
Drobo used to fit into that before business right?

01:03:08.583 --> 01:03:15.465
yeah, there's just a handful of them left, although if you go on amazon, there's like a bunch of them from china that you don't buy.

01:03:15.485 --> 01:03:19.132
those Do not buy those Speaking of being spied on.

01:03:19.820 --> 01:03:22.030
They're spying on you for sure they are.

01:03:22.030 --> 01:03:24.186
They're spying on you for sure.

01:03:24.186 --> 01:03:25.409
So, yeah, there's a couple.

01:03:25.409 --> 01:03:28.710
There's just a couple of those left in that space.

01:03:28.710 --> 01:03:32.550
It's a cool little box, very flexible.

01:03:32.550 --> 01:03:33.846
Unraid is another one.

01:03:33.846 --> 01:03:36.422
You can build that yourself.

01:03:36.422 --> 01:03:39.885
Unraid there's a bunch of Linux versions of things you can do.

01:03:39.885 --> 01:03:43.367
Again, the farther you go down that rabbit hole, the more nerdy they get.

01:03:43.367 --> 01:03:47.692
Unraid is not an easy setup for most average people.

01:03:47.692 --> 01:03:53.297
Not an easy setup and I'm fairly technical and it's a little bit of a setup for me.

01:03:53.297 --> 01:03:55.981
So you've got to decide.

01:03:56.001 --> 01:04:01.463
And then the worst part, dave, on your backup, especially if you decide to host it, you lose a drive.

01:04:01.463 --> 01:04:06.931
It's all fun and games storing all these files until you have to figure out oh, how do I?

01:04:06.931 --> 01:04:09.041
And drives do go bad.

01:04:09.041 --> 01:04:09.923
They go bad all the time.

01:04:09.923 --> 01:04:12.210
I follow Backblaze.

01:04:12.210 --> 01:04:20.331
Every quarter puts out the number of drives they bought and then the drives they failed and they talk because you get some reliability and they have.

01:04:20.331 --> 01:04:24.030
They have hundreds of drives that fail every single, every single quarter.

01:04:24.030 --> 01:04:25.405
So they do fail.

01:04:25.405 --> 01:04:29.311
You have to know how to recover that data If you're going to store it.

01:04:29.311 --> 01:04:31.146
This is for most people.

01:04:31.146 --> 01:04:32.262
The cloud is the way to go.

01:04:32.664 --> 01:04:33.224
That's what I use.

01:04:33.224 --> 01:04:55.235
I use, I basically, if I remember, and I've kind of gotten the case now where I saved the finished MP3 and I don't care about the other stuff.

01:04:55.235 --> 01:04:56.659
Now I'm kind of glad I just now started deleting some of that stuff.

01:04:56.659 --> 01:04:58.476
But I'm kind of glad I didn't because I have 930 episodes I need to replace from Lipson to Captivate.

01:04:58.476 --> 01:05:03.215
And I still have a version because I have that original file without ads in it so I can upload that and then dynamically put in my ads.

01:05:03.215 --> 01:05:10.682
And I'm back to where I was, because when I imported them the dynamic ads became baked in and I was like, oh wait, I think I still have a version.

01:05:10.682 --> 01:05:18.592
I can go back to the original Hindenburg file, upload it, export it, replace the file, put in a couple markers and I'm done.

01:05:18.592 --> 01:05:21.387
I just get to do it 900 times.

01:05:21.387 --> 01:05:22.208
So that's exciting.

01:05:22.971 --> 01:05:23.152
It is.

01:05:23.152 --> 01:05:29.753
I keep the raw version and the finished version, both audio and video, because I don't want to remake those.

01:05:29.753 --> 01:05:39.291
I used to keep all kinds of different versions and then I was like this is dumb, and then I use a Backblaze backup that is cold storage.

01:05:39.532 --> 01:05:40.333
Yep, that's what I use.

01:05:41.362 --> 01:05:42.567
I don't pay to put it up there.

01:05:42.567 --> 01:05:46.009
I pay to store it, which is cheap, really cheap.

01:05:46.009 --> 01:05:48.583
It's the egress If you go to get it back.

01:05:48.583 --> 01:05:51.130
That's where you pay right.

01:05:51.130 --> 01:05:57.905
And I'm in a spot right now where I'm like if I ever wanted to leave Backblaze, I'd have to pull, because I'm like if I ever wanted to leave Backblaze, I'd have to pull because I don't have a local copy.

01:05:57.905 --> 01:06:03.230
In some cases I don't have a local copy of it, it's single copy, which is bad.

01:06:03.230 --> 01:06:04.090
This is very bad.

01:06:04.090 --> 01:06:12.237
So I'm like I'm going to have to go in and egress some of that data back out, put it somewhere and do some other things with it.

01:06:12.237 --> 01:06:17.429
So it's, yeah, it's don't make your backup't make your backup complicated.

01:06:17.849 --> 01:06:25.182
The more complicated it is, the better chances you have of never getting it again yeah, here is a name I just want to say because we haven't said this forever.

01:06:25.182 --> 01:06:27.027
It's you know we talk about.

01:06:27.027 --> 01:06:37.384
Sometimes people leave your show, sometimes they come back, but the one and only michael ray is in the chat room, that's oh, hey, michael, I was like oh, my god welcome back.

01:06:37.403 --> 01:06:38.246
Yeah, says.

01:06:38.246 --> 01:06:40.472
Although I clicked on show, there we go.

01:06:40.472 --> 01:06:47.012
I have a 2000 Mac, 2007 Mac with a Windows keyboard running Mint Linux.

01:06:47.012 --> 01:06:49.929
One terabyte SSD works well.

01:06:49.929 --> 01:06:54.885
It's not fast but it's 150 bucks, so you got to love that.

01:06:54.885 --> 01:06:59.402
And then we had another comment here there's a lot of value in tangents.

01:06:59.402 --> 01:07:02.351
This is from when we're talking about going left to center.

01:07:02.371 --> 01:07:06.123
Sometimes I've spent way too much time editing out breaths.

01:07:06.123 --> 01:07:10.592
Yeah, unless it's Darth Vader, I'm okay with that.

01:07:10.592 --> 01:07:11.353
Five years.

01:07:11.353 --> 01:07:15.289
He said I just set the noise gate in my software and boom, no more breaths.

01:07:15.289 --> 01:07:16.452
I haven't tried this.

01:07:16.452 --> 01:07:19.943
Noise gate in my software and boom, no more breaths.

01:07:19.943 --> 01:07:20.365
I haven't tried this.

01:07:20.385 --> 01:07:31.289
But Mark from Practical Prepping he's a member of the School of Podcasting said that just the noise reduction in Hindenburg can remove breaths and I'm like I'm going to have to test that that sounds because their noise reduction is really good.

01:07:31.289 --> 01:07:35.284
It's especially if you're just trying to get rid of hiss or whatever things like that.

01:07:35.284 --> 01:07:37.331
So I will have to try that.

01:07:37.331 --> 01:07:51.630
I have a a deep breath plugin from waves and it's hard to get rid of breath because I don't know what it is, especially if you're interviewing a female, because obviously their voice is a little higher and I had it once.

01:07:51.630 --> 01:07:52.702
It was like 80%.

01:07:52.702 --> 01:07:54.405
I'm like, just taking them out, it's perfect.

01:07:54.405 --> 01:08:04.293
And then there was one towards the end, where whatever she said was in the range of what sound, where whatever looks like a breath, and all of a sudden half the word went out the window and I was like eh.

01:08:04.293 --> 01:08:08.170
And then I was like wait a minute, let's make this a little less aggressive.

01:08:08.170 --> 01:08:11.788
And then all the breaths were back and I was like I haven't found that official.

01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:19.465
You know, a noise gate sometimes can work, but they're all kind of tricky like that.

01:08:19.465 --> 01:08:23.824
Dave, one of the things that annoys me the most about you is when I hear you breathing, which is all the time.

01:08:23.824 --> 01:08:33.833
By the way, I'm joking, of course, but I think sometimes, and maybe it accentuates because of some processing we've done on our podcast.

01:08:33.833 --> 01:08:39.842
But, by the way, you listen to people breathe all the time and you don't know it because you ignore it.

01:08:39.842 --> 01:08:41.947
Yeah, and most people do as well.

01:08:41.947 --> 01:08:49.533
So don't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't stress about breathing on a podcast unless it's just horrific.

01:08:49.533 --> 01:08:53.725
And then maybe there's an audio problem and not a breathing problem oh you know.

01:08:54.127 --> 01:08:55.551
Yeah, well, these you know.

01:08:55.551 --> 01:08:58.015
Compressors Auphonic.

01:08:58.015 --> 01:09:03.469
If your breath is loud enough that Auphonic thinks it's a word, forget it.

01:09:03.469 --> 01:09:19.228
You've just made your audio worse, so that's why I never overwrite an original file, like I always keep the original one and then sometimes I'll make a copy of it and then do all my song and dance stuff on that, so that in the event, I end up with something that's just horrendous.

01:09:19.228 --> 01:09:22.502
I'm like, wait, hold on, I can go back to the beginning, where I started from.

01:09:23.042 --> 01:09:24.506
So you know who doesn't breathe?

01:09:24.766 --> 01:09:29.842
ai, they don't breathe although I've heard they're making them breathe.

01:09:29.943 --> 01:09:41.377
Yeah crazy that that we're because it doesn't sound authentic so we're adding breathing back in to make it sound more authentic.

01:09:41.377 --> 01:09:42.905
I don't get it.

01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:44.762
I started using.

01:09:44.762 --> 01:09:49.992
In fact, I'm glad I remembered this because, yeah, I started using wondercraftai.

01:09:49.992 --> 01:09:55.970
I'll have a link out in the show notes because of course they have an affiliate program, doesn't everybody?

01:09:55.970 --> 01:09:59.609
But what it is, it's part 11 Labs.

01:09:59.609 --> 01:10:20.203
11 Labs is a partner, and then they've got some sort of you know big language thing in the background and you basically say I need an ad for the School of Podcasting, which is a podcast about blah blah blah, and it spits out an ad, and then you can pick out all these voices and the one I don't know.

01:10:20.203 --> 01:10:22.631
If I share audio on this, it probably wouldn't hear.

01:10:22.631 --> 01:10:32.201
But anyway, there was like a total like just announcer guy who was very forceful and he's talking like this, the school of podcasting, and I was like you know he sounds.

01:10:32.801 --> 01:10:34.402
It was weird because on one hand, I'm like is that AI?

01:10:34.402 --> 01:10:47.569
And I'm like, no, that sounds like an annoying radio guy, and so I used him on my last episode, but you could actually have different voices in the same read, and so what I liked about it is it's meant to like.

01:10:47.569 --> 01:10:53.070
It's how you have the Cast Magic and the Cap Shows.

01:10:53.070 --> 01:10:59.835
This is designed to write ads, so they really have that AI tuned for that and then you can pull in music.

01:10:59.835 --> 01:11:10.841
I was not overly impressed with their music, so I basically had it read the ad and then I put my own music in later, but it was interesting.

01:11:10.841 --> 01:11:12.747
So the AI, but that's the thing is.

01:11:12.747 --> 01:11:21.087
As I was doing this I forget there was one and I heard where the AI person actually took a breath and I was like, oh, that's interesting, they're breathing now.

01:11:21.087 --> 01:11:28.069
So you know, and it is getting spooky, ralph from the Ask Ralph podcast sent me something.

01:11:28.069 --> 01:11:28.881
He goes, dave.

01:11:28.881 --> 01:11:33.125
I finally cloned my voice in 11 labs and he goes.

01:11:33.125 --> 01:11:36.385
It's kind of spooky and he sent it to me and it was very spooky.

01:11:36.385 --> 01:11:40.233
Had he not told me this was AI, I would have thought it was Ralph.

01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:50.806
So if you haven't, it's a weird conversation to have with your family, but if you're a podcaster and most of us here today are, you got to come up with a safe word in the event.

01:11:50.806 --> 01:11:57.033
Somebody captures me and they call my brother and say we need $5,000 in iTunes gift cards.

01:11:57.033 --> 01:11:59.315
I'd have to come.

01:11:59.315 --> 01:12:07.849
I have to tell my family it's whatever upside down, pumpernickel something, some sort of phrase, so that if they go well, what's the phrase, dave?

01:12:07.849 --> 01:12:08.743
And they don't know it.

01:12:08.743 --> 01:12:10.349
Then they know it's artificial.

01:12:10.349 --> 01:12:18.043
And I was like really, and there are people like no, no, that's a thing Like you need to, and not so much even if you get kidnapped.

01:12:18.043 --> 01:12:28.032
But you know, if you're on vacation or something like that and they're like I have him now I will kill him, like don't call his phone, or I will If his phone rings, I have a gun to his head.

01:12:28.032 --> 01:12:30.875
I need ten thousand dollars, you know.

01:12:30.875 --> 01:12:31.534
So you need.

01:12:31.534 --> 01:12:34.377
Yeah, Chris calls it a deep, fake, safe word.

01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:42.180
So a deep, fake, safe word Just don't make it bananas or something like that, because they'll know yeah, don't make it password, it's got to be.

01:12:44.426 --> 01:12:51.421
Don't make your safe word safe word in the same way that, and don't hide your safe word under the keyboard, because everybody knows that's where you store it.

01:12:51.421 --> 01:13:01.492
Daniel says or, instead of a safe word, I've told my family to call me back on my phone number or number they know will reach me if they suspect it's not me.

01:13:01.492 --> 01:13:11.713
So, and then Randy Black said did anybody see folks uploading Joe Biden's phone call from the other day to 11 labs to check if it was generated by them?

01:13:11.713 --> 01:13:13.824
Interesting, I did not hear about that.

01:13:13.824 --> 01:13:26.753
As soon as we get closer to November, it's going to get ugly with this stuff, because on one hand, you'll be like, well, you know the actual Democratic Party or the Republican, like they're not.

01:13:26.753 --> 01:13:36.149
Well, sure, they're not, but it's the people you know on both sides that you know.

01:13:36.489 --> 01:13:41.381
Chris says yeah, says yeah, go ahead read that I got a cold call from what I thought was a bot.

01:13:41.381 --> 01:13:47.885
I asked in this case quotation marks her what she had for dinner and, yep, she was not real.

01:13:48.246 --> 01:13:51.435
Yeah, I've done that we, we at gallup, have an interview.

01:13:51.435 --> 01:14:00.027
When you to get hired, you have to go through this interview and these interviewers ask these questions and they're real people, like doing this, but they've done it so many times.

01:14:00.027 --> 01:14:01.029
They sound like bots.

01:14:01.029 --> 01:14:03.925
Talk about no breathing, you don't?

01:14:03.925 --> 01:14:05.588
I mean, it's just, it's, it's crazy.

01:14:05.588 --> 01:14:07.172
So during the interview this was I.

01:14:07.172 --> 01:14:11.606
I just celebrated 17 years of Gallup, so this was 17 years ago.

01:14:17.619 --> 01:14:20.226
I was going through the of you and I could have swore it was a recording, so I just stopped talking you know I was.

01:14:20.226 --> 01:14:25.442
And then there's this blank space, not the, not the taylor swift song, but there's this blank space and she goes are you there?

01:14:25.442 --> 01:14:29.310
I was like oh, oh, sorry, I just got distracted for a minute.

01:14:29.310 --> 01:14:30.359
You know, I just was trying to.

01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:32.684
I was trying to figure out if it was, but.

01:14:32.684 --> 01:14:34.747
But yeah, we're, we're, we're.

01:14:34.987 --> 01:14:41.136
We're going into some spaces where it'll be interesting to see how these voices play out.

01:14:41.136 --> 01:14:48.654
I'm interested, like in Ralph's case, what his use case for having that voice is going to be.

01:14:48.654 --> 01:14:50.543
Would it like I would think?

01:14:50.543 --> 01:15:03.610
Would it make sense for me to record a podcast, then have an editor go through the transcript and fix all the times I had bad English or I didn't say things right or I didn't finish sentences.

01:15:03.610 --> 01:15:05.033
I'm notorious for that.

01:15:05.033 --> 01:15:06.442
I interrupt myself.

01:15:06.442 --> 01:15:19.021
Would I fix the transcript and then replay the transcript with my voice, and then that would be the produced podcast, so that it would be still me?

01:15:19.021 --> 01:15:23.050
It's still my words, they're just edited like?

01:15:23.050 --> 01:15:46.462
Is that the next level of editing, dave, where I could edit me perfectly in the podcast, not have to do these gyrations of bad audio or jump cut video or some of those kinds of things and then have it and then produce the edited version that way with an ai voice, if you can't tell the difference yeah, it's gonna be.

01:15:47.525 --> 01:15:47.846
I don't know.

01:15:47.846 --> 01:15:49.814
I think it's just gonna be weird, it's gonna be tricky.

01:15:49.814 --> 01:15:54.188
Randy says I use 11 labs to generate scripture readings for new biblical podcasts.

01:15:54.188 --> 01:15:54.729
Yeah, I've.

01:15:54.729 --> 01:15:57.524
Uh, I think james cridlin did that for a while.

01:15:57.524 --> 01:16:17.048
If somebody, if it's a press release or something like that and what he always does I forget what it is I don't think he says I'm not real, but it's something like voice was it's not ai, but he has to like say that's not the real person that said that I have.

01:16:17.069 --> 01:16:23.730
I have a if I did that, if I wrote something and I had, if I said it and I edited it and then I had my voice re-say it.

01:16:23.730 --> 01:16:28.127
Do I need to disclose that's an ai voice yeah, I don't know.

01:16:28.268 --> 01:16:31.134
And uh, randy says jesus sounds a lot like sam elliott.

01:16:31.134 --> 01:16:36.810
Blessed are those that are straight, for they shall inherit the earth.

01:16:37.192 --> 01:16:37.972
Yeah, that'd be a—.

01:16:39.203 --> 01:16:40.046
It's what's for dinner.

01:16:40.046 --> 01:16:44.609
Well, I thought I was going to have to use it.

01:16:44.609 --> 01:16:53.395
I recorded a conversation with my new boss for Monday's episode and we thought he said my title wrong.

01:16:53.395 --> 01:16:57.390
And then I went back and listened and the good news is he didn't say my title at all.

01:16:57.390 --> 01:17:09.487
But I thought, if I need to, I'll, with his permission, I will clone my boss and just have him say this one word again and then go that route.

01:17:09.487 --> 01:17:16.220
So, yeah, so that's, I can see where and I'm, I'm.

01:17:16.220 --> 01:17:22.113
I'm trying to wrap my head around this, because Ralph's podcast is short, it is video.

01:17:22.113 --> 01:17:25.871
So that's where you know that's not going to well, you can do AI videos, by the way.

01:17:25.871 --> 01:17:28.368
If you haven't seen those yet, those are equally spooky.

01:17:28.368 --> 01:17:42.587
You basically talk into a camera, don't move your arms and hands, but your arms and hands have to be in the screen so they don't give you 12 fingers, and then they make a video of you, and then Daniel, or Daniel Chris, says what's your new boss's name?

01:17:42.587 --> 01:17:44.149
Again, it's yeah.

01:17:44.149 --> 01:17:45.171
So who is it?

01:17:45.512 --> 01:17:46.134
Yeah, who.

01:17:47.900 --> 01:17:48.221
What's the?

01:17:48.221 --> 01:17:50.863
We should have made a poll today, I'm sure you.

01:17:51.324 --> 01:17:52.529
when are you disclosing this again?

01:17:53.440 --> 01:17:53.962
So I don't know.

01:17:53.962 --> 01:17:55.363
By the way, yeah, if it's not.

01:17:55.363 --> 01:18:03.314
He's even kept it a secret from me, the new boss was not being mean about it, but he was just like yeah, same as the old boss.

01:18:03.314 --> 01:18:17.685
No, thank God, they wanted this big reveal and I'm like okay, so I feel like LeBron James, I'm taking my talents to blah, blah, blah you know I'm taking my talents to blah blah blah.

01:18:17.746 --> 01:18:25.614
So yeah, if I wanted to be one of the first to know what's going on next Monday, what's the right?

01:18:25.614 --> 01:18:26.076
Where would I?

01:18:28.539 --> 01:18:29.020
Oh well, here's the thing.

01:18:29.020 --> 01:18:36.850
Normally the School of Podcasting is published at 12.05 am on Monday, so it's basically Sunday night, at 12.05 am on Monday.

01:18:36.850 --> 01:18:53.389
So it's basically Sunday night and it's being slightly postponed until about 7.30 am Because there's and to me, look, I'm just going like I just changed jobs, like it's really it's not that big a deal, and the hoopla over this it's a big deal.

01:18:53.739 --> 01:18:54.282
It's a big.

01:18:54.282 --> 01:18:55.265
Why not make it a big deal?

01:18:55.265 --> 01:19:04.340
It's fun, so I could subscribe to your podcast and you're going to say it there, like 7am central or 7am Eastern Eight.

01:19:04.939 --> 01:19:08.430
It'd be seven, 30 would be, my guess is where I probably am going to post it.

01:19:08.430 --> 01:19:17.806
And then you'll, you'll sit through the fun filled story of Dave, okay, and then at the end I will say and there's a news source that that might have it.

01:19:17.806 --> 01:19:21.488
There is a news source that will hear it actually before me.

01:19:21.488 --> 01:19:25.072
That's one of the things we had to negotiate, so can you, just can you?

01:19:25.231 --> 01:19:26.412
It'll be in pod news You'll hear.

01:19:26.713 --> 01:19:31.778
So if you don't want to get a spoiler for the school of podcasting, don't listen to pod news for that day.

01:19:31.778 --> 01:19:41.328
Of course you always want to listen to pod news, but that day and then you'll you'll hear me shortly after he reveals, I will reveal.

01:19:41.350 --> 01:19:47.166
So that's the who does pod news again somebody named james, something no james james cridlin yeah, cridlin, never heard of him yeah

01:19:47.648 --> 01:19:51.384
dr has a question going back to our our kind of previous subject here.

01:19:51.384 --> 01:19:53.368
Do you save all your old episodes?

01:19:53.368 --> 01:19:55.404
They are already saved in all the players.

01:19:55.404 --> 01:19:56.568
I'm thinking of that.

01:19:56.568 --> 01:19:57.270
Why should I save old episodes?

01:19:57.270 --> 01:19:57.310
I?

01:19:57.310 --> 01:19:58.215
I are already saved in all the players.

01:19:58.215 --> 01:19:58.697
I'm thinking of that.

01:19:58.697 --> 01:19:59.380
Why should I save old episodes?

01:19:59.380 --> 01:20:00.962
Oh, for my clients?

01:20:00.962 --> 01:20:01.625
I don't.

01:20:01.625 --> 01:20:02.527
I say that up front.

01:20:02.527 --> 01:20:06.425
I'm like here they are, here's yours, Throw them in your Dropbox.

01:20:06.425 --> 01:20:07.328
I don't need them.

01:20:07.328 --> 01:20:09.306
Like I don't save that.

01:20:09.306 --> 01:20:11.185
But, holy cow, look who's back.

01:20:11.185 --> 01:20:12.128
Look who's back.

01:20:12.128 --> 01:20:13.542
We talked about this earlier.

01:20:13.542 --> 01:20:16.528
The one and only Bangs Naughty Bits.

01:20:17.990 --> 01:20:18.932
Nicely done.

01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:27.240
Request for detailed review of podcast trailer links all politics and I wasn't invited yet.

01:20:27.240 --> 01:20:29.563
But thank you for the super cash and Bangs.

01:20:29.563 --> 01:20:31.364
I sent you a message on Reddit.

01:20:31.364 --> 01:20:42.453
Now that I'm not the head of podcaster education at Libsyn, do I still have to do the disclaimer Because it says moderator mandatory?

01:20:42.453 --> 01:20:47.997
I am the head of podcaster education at Libsyn and the founder of the School of Podcasting.

01:20:47.997 --> 01:20:54.755
And now that I'm just the founder of the School of Podcasting, do I still need to disclose that in my Reddit post?

01:20:54.755 --> 01:20:57.003
Because if I didn't, it was slammed.

01:20:57.043 --> 01:21:03.713
every time they're like nope, nope, nope maybe it would help if we knew your title on monday what yeah?

01:21:03.753 --> 01:21:04.856
don't say yeah, I can't.

01:21:04.979 --> 01:21:09.210
Can't say that don't say you looked for a second, like you were gonna say it.

01:21:09.229 --> 01:21:13.484
I'm like don't and I'm like can, I'm like no no, no, no, no.

01:21:13.484 --> 01:21:21.185
Well, I can't say, the title doesn't really give away where I'm working, but oh, okay, so but anyway, don't say it, but keep us in suspense.

01:21:21.225 --> 01:21:24.735
Yeah, it's, I tell you, I'm sure I had you.

01:21:24.735 --> 01:21:25.698
Yeah talk.

01:21:25.759 --> 01:21:26.640
Well, it's you know.

01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:32.100
Yeah, chris is saying dave was hired by logic tech to bring out a new version of the blue yeti.

01:21:32.100 --> 01:21:33.944
Yes, it's called the podcast hero.

01:21:33.944 --> 01:21:35.447
Yeah, this.

01:21:35.506 --> 01:21:36.788
This is a popular guess.

01:21:37.250 --> 01:21:39.934
De'Ara's, like I thought you were going to captivate Yep.

01:21:39.993 --> 01:21:49.671
I've heard that, but I've also, yeah, the reason I changed and again, there's nothing wrong with Libsyn the reason I moved the school of podcasting to captivate dynamic ad insertion.

01:21:49.671 --> 01:21:56.533
The reason I moved Ask the Podcast Coach to dynamic ad insertion or to dynamic to Buzzsprout is their dynamic tool.

01:21:56.533 --> 01:21:59.884
Ad insertion or to dynamic to buzzsprout is their dynamic tool.

01:21:59.884 --> 01:22:00.505
And libsyn has a dynamic tool.

01:22:00.505 --> 01:22:03.331
It's called libsyn pro and, oh my god, is it expensive compared to the competition.

01:22:03.331 --> 01:22:04.962
And I have told them that multiple times.

01:22:04.962 --> 01:22:12.922
I'm like we need one for joe entrepreneur and maybe they're working on one, but there sure wasn't one when I was there.

01:22:12.922 --> 01:22:15.006
So it is what it is.

01:22:15.006 --> 01:22:17.792
But Jim, holy cow, that went.

01:22:17.792 --> 01:22:19.484
I don't know about you, I thought that went fast today.

01:22:19.505 --> 01:22:19.845
It was fun.

01:22:20.140 --> 01:22:24.248
It seems like a week ago we were talking about Bon Jovi and I was like fun episode.

01:22:24.289 --> 01:22:25.131
Yeah, what is?

01:22:26.261 --> 01:22:28.930
what is coming up on home gadget?

01:22:29.541 --> 01:22:32.905
On home gadget geeks, mark Robson joins me.

01:22:32.905 --> 01:22:35.601
He is our barbecue, grill and smoker expert.

01:22:35.601 --> 01:22:38.583
He is our barbecue, grill and smoker expert.

01:22:38.583 --> 01:22:45.069
Every summer we do a big show on grilling smoking show pictures.

01:22:45.069 --> 01:22:47.110
It will make you hungry.

01:22:47.110 --> 01:22:55.296
So if you want to catch up on all the things that we're doing I posted it just before this show Head out to TheAverageGuytv or you can get it at HomeGadgetGeekscom.

01:22:58.020 --> 01:22:59.418
Daniel is guessing all the places I would never work in million years.

01:22:59.418 --> 01:23:00.925
Dave is working for SoundCloud.

01:23:00.925 --> 01:23:05.601
Dave is working for you to anchor, for sure, anchor, that's it.

01:23:05.601 --> 01:23:10.886
Dave was hired by a professional podcast promoter.

01:23:10.886 --> 01:23:13.645
Yes, people go.

01:23:13.645 --> 01:23:15.090
Why aren't you on LinkedIn more?

01:23:15.090 --> 01:23:16.286
I might be, you're gonna be on people go.

01:23:16.286 --> 01:23:16.971
Why aren't you on linkedin more?

01:23:16.992 --> 01:23:17.333
I might be broken.

01:23:17.333 --> 01:23:17.536
Hired you.

01:23:17.536 --> 01:23:17.958
Is that what I heard?

01:23:17.958 --> 01:23:18.541
That would be nice.

01:23:18.541 --> 01:23:24.881
You're gonna be on rogan's podcast, uh, production crew um, let's see my top three candidates.

01:23:24.921 --> 01:23:27.149
He says captivate podcast movement.

01:23:27.149 --> 01:23:28.595
That would be interesting.

01:23:28.595 --> 01:23:31.644
Uh, and blueberry anyway.

01:23:31.644 --> 01:23:39.500
So I can neither confirm nor deny, of course, and schoolofpodcastingcom slash follow, which is what this week's episode is about.

01:23:39.500 --> 01:23:41.682
But it's and it is.

01:23:41.682 --> 01:23:55.791
I'm kind of tired of talking about me, but it is interesting because last week was like hey, I started with a Shure SM58 in the basement and now I'm using this microphone and how I kind of got from there here on and how I kind of got from there here this is.

01:23:55.791 --> 01:24:07.310
And it's weird seeing how, how many times I met somebody way back in the day and now, like five years later, oh, that person and I worked for a bit and that led me to this.

01:24:07.310 --> 01:24:09.582
So it's all about the relationships of podcasting.

01:24:09.623 --> 01:24:13.587
And Bane is coming in with another thing here.

01:24:13.587 --> 01:24:15.963
Thank you, sir, you have no idea.

01:24:15.963 --> 01:24:17.747
Podcast Coach covers a lot of territory.

01:24:17.747 --> 01:24:18.411
I you, sir, you have no idea.

01:24:18.411 --> 01:24:19.315
Podcast Coach covers a lot of territory.

01:24:19.315 --> 01:24:19.878
I disclaimer everything.

01:24:19.878 --> 01:24:21.662
Yeah, bags and disclosures.

01:24:21.662 --> 01:24:23.509
Yes, I am an A-hole.

01:24:23.509 --> 01:24:27.328
Hey, thanks, we will see you next week with another episode of Ask the Podcast Coach.