Feb. 22, 2024
The Nothingness of Overconnected Lives – MDW 398
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In this episode of "Mike Dell's World," number 398, titled "The Nothingness of Overconnected Lives," Mike Dell explores the themes of technological simplicity and privacy. The episode was recorded on February 22nd, 2024. -
In this episode of “Mike Dell’s World,” number 398, titled “The Nothingness of Overconnected Lives,” Mike Dell explores the themes of technological simplicity and privacy. The episode was recorded on February 22nd, 2024.
Mike begins by updating his listeners on his personal life, mentioning his recent shoulder surgery recovery and his return to flying. He also notes a change in his recording setup due to technical issues, leading to a lack of sound effects and music in this episode.
Mike shares that he’s started a new podcast with Mike Wilkerson, which will be available in video, audio, and on a YouTube channel. He talks about his experience with different podcast apps, praising features like smart playlists and privacy-focused platforms like Cast o Matic, Podverse, Fountain, and Podcast Guru.
The main topic of the episode revolves around smartphones, privacy, and the idea of ‘de-Googling’ one’s life. Mike discusses the consequences of using free apps, his intolerance for advertisements, and the consideration of using a ‘dumb’ phone. He mentions his decision to reduce Google’s presence in his personal life, although he still uses YouTube and Facebook for work and occasional personal posts.
Mike critically evaluates the necessity of always being connected, mentioning his preferences for minimal social media usage and the privacy implications of technologies like face ID. He expresses concerns about the habit-forming nature of smartphones, describing efforts to simplify his phone usage by removing unnecessary apps and switching to the Brave browser for privacy.
He references an article by the BBC about the resurgence of ‘dumb phones’ among younger generations, highlighting a particular model called the Nokia 3310. Mike then details his interest in a minimalist phone called the Light Phone, which aside from basic features, has limited apps to minimize distractions.
Mike also discusses an article that explains how to turn an iPhone into a ‘dumb phone’ and suggests getting rid of applications that track users or serve ads. He talks about living without the constant bombardment of news and entertainment, advocating for a more straightforward lifestyle.
He further discusses his experience in de-cluttering his media consumption, from podcasts to news and television, advocating for RSS feeds as an alternative to mainstream news sources. Mike also adds that he has been exploring off-grid living through various YouTube channels.
The episode wraps up with Mike mentioning his initiatives at Blueberry, including testing AI for generating chapter files and adding transcripts to make podcasts more accessible. He remarks on the resilience of RSS feeds in maintaining a decentralized platform for podcast content, independent of larger corporations like Apple or Spotify.
Mike concludes by encouraging listeners to tune into his more regular appearances on the Auto History Podcast and Podcast Insider for content related to automobiles and podcasting insights. Additionally, he promises to provide links in the show notes related to topics discussed in the episode, such as the BBC article, the Light Phone details, and the guide to dumbing down an iPhone.
– Mike updates on his shoulder surgery recovery and return to flying
– Discusses changes in recording setup resulting in no sound effects or music
– Announces a new podcast with Mike Wilkerson, including video and audio formats Auto History Podcast
– Discusses podcast apps, favoring smart playlists and privacy-focused options like Castamatic, Podverse, Fountain, and Podcast Guru
– Main topic on the downsides of smartphones and privacy concerns
– Speaks on ‘de-Googling’ his life while still using YouTube and Facebook for essential work purposes
– Advocates for reduced social media usage and is wary of technologies like face ID
– Efforts to simplify phone use, including removing apps and using Brave browser
– References BBC’s article on the popularity of ‘dumb phones’, mentions Nokia 3310 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60763168
– Interest in a minimalist phone called the Light Phone to minimize distractions https://www.thelightphone.com/
– Details on making an iPhone a ‘dumb phone’ and removing tracking apps https://whatifididnt.com/blog/iphone-dumb-phone/
– Suggests living without constant news and entertainment, promoting a simpler lifestyle
– Discusses decluttering media consumption and using RSS feeds over mainstream news
– Explores off-grid living through YouTube channels
– Talks about new initiatives at Blubrry, like testing AI for chapter files and adding transcripts
– Remarks on the strength of RSS feeds for content decentralization away from big corporations https://netnewswire.com/
– Encourages listeners to check out his appearances on the Auto History Podcast and Podcast Insider
00:01 - Introduction and New Year Greetings
00:20 - Catch-Up: Shoulder Surgery and Recent Activities
01:08 - Tech and Gear Update: USB Interface and RODECaster Issues
01:43 - Launching a New Podcast with Mike Wilkerson
02:45 - Podcast App Recommendations and Features
04:03 - Main Topic: Smartphones and Overconnectivity
04:47 - The Cost of Free Apps and Navigating Advertisements
05:07 - Considering Dumb Phones and Reducing Cell Phone Use
06:01 - Smartphone Necessities and De-Googling
08:06 - Social Media Habits and Offline Devices Like iPad
10:07 - The Return of Dumb Phones and Gen Z Trends
11:00 - Simplifying Smartphone Usage and Avoiding Distractions
14:21 - The Light Phone as a Smart-Dumb Phone Compromise
16:00 - The Flexibility of a Dumb-Down iPhone Setup
17:01 - Reflecting on Tech Dependence and Old Travel Habits
19:11 - Bringing Awareness to Overwhelm from Tech Advancements
20:19 - Experiencing Network Outages and Considering Tech Reliance
22:27 - Minimizing Interactions with Advertising and Data Collection
24:36 - Exploring Alternative News Sources Like RSS Feeds
27:23 - Keeping Podcasting Decentralized and Open
29:03 - Closing Thoughts on Simplifying Technology
36:34 - Recommendations for Other Podcasts to Listen To
37:45 - Final Sign-Off
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- Mike Dell's World number 3 98.
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And today is the
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22nd of February, 2024.
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Happy New Year since I didn't, uh, talk,
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I haven't talked to you since November.
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Well, or maybe December.
I don't know,.
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Anyway, all is well here
in northern Michigan.
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And today I want to talk
about a particular subject,
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but, uh, I figured I'd catch you up on all
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the personal details.
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I, uh, had my shoulder surgery in October,
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which if you listen to any
of the Nap Pot Pomo episodes,
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I was in the midst of recovering.
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Well, I'm, I'd say 90%
recovered, uh, back to,
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uh, flying.
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So I've been doing quite a bit
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of flying here lately,.
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So been fun. And, uh, I got all that, uh,
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you know, got all the, the, the
shoulder pain taken care of.
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It's still a little stiff.
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Don't quite have the range of motion that,
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uh, I have had in the past.
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By the way, I don't have any,
uh, fancy sound effects today
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because, uh, I'm using a
different, uh, USB interface.
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Uh, my road caster keeps failing me,
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and I think it's more the
computer than the road caster.
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So, uh, I'm using a foresight, uh, solo.
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That's what it's called.
So if it sounds a little,
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it shouldn't sound any different.
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Uh, got the same, uh, setup otherwise.
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But, uh, anyway,
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that's why I'm not gonna
play the intro music
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and all that stuff 'cause I don't like
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to edit if I don't have to.
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And speaking of podcasting, of course, uh,
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you guys might know that I
started another podcast with,
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uh, Mike Wilkerson.
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So I have a partner in crime,
and we're doing it slow.
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So, uh, we're starting out
with a couple episodes a month,
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but they're gonna be coming
out in video podcast,
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audio podcast
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and YouTube, A YouTube channel,
a a proper YouTube channel,
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not a, not a, uh, fake
video YouTube channel,
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like you could find this show
on if you go to YouTube music.
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I'm now on YouTube music with this one.
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And also there's a, a YouTube channel.
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But, uh, basically it's just
this audio with, uh, the,
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the, uh, artwork, uh, as a still shot.
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So it's kind of, kind of lame
in my humble opinion.
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You're better off going
to, uh, podcast apps.com
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and pick one of your,
pick one of those apps.
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Uh, lately I've been using castomatic
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and it has a lot of neat features.
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Not all the features, but,
uh, a lot of neat ones, uh,
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from podcasting 2.0, another
one, another good one is,
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- Uh, of course, pod verse and Fountain.
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Those are, uh, pretty popular these days.
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And, and, uh, another one you
might like is podcast guru.
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Nice thing about Castomatic
is, if you like overcast,
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and I still like overcast,
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but if you like overcast,
this is kind of the, uh,
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uh, it's not a quite a
clone, but darn close.
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And, and the nice thing I like about
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that is it has a thing called collections
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or smart playlists that
work really good, uh, for
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how I like to listen to podcasts.
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You know, I have them separated
by aviation, uh, cars,
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uh, news, uh, you know, just to, you know,
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have a fun category where I
just throw things in there and,
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and, you know, it, it
works out really good.
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'cause it automatically puts,
you know, a playlist together
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of those types of shows
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that you've downloaded to your phone.
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And speaking of phones, that's
gonna be the main subject
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of today's episode.
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We've been doing a lot of
thinking about, you know,
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all this stuff we have in our
pocket, you know, the little
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device that can do just about
everything and anything.
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And you, there's an app for that.
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Well, all those apps have consequences,
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especially the free ones, the free apps,
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as I've said all along since
all this technology started,
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if you're getting something from
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for free, you are the product.
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And, you know, they love
selling data and collecting data
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and, you know, targeting
you for advertisements.
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And, you know, I've become very intolerant
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of te uh, advertisements.
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And of course, I'm
probably going to be, uh,
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counter addicting myself,
in this subject,
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because I do do some things that, uh,
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are counterintuitive to
what I'm talking about.
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But what I'm talking about is, you know,
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what's the difference
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or what, uh, you know, what would be
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your thought about going
back to a, a dumb phone,
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or maybe not even carrying
a cell phone at all,
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but let's just assume you
need to have a cell phone
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so you can at least make phone
calls and receive phone calls
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and maybe text.
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Uh, you know, texts kind
of bother me sometimes too,
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when people kind of
use that in replacement
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of regular communications.
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You know, used to be, you could, uh,
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just pick up the phone and call it.
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And, you know, you
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and the other person on the other
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end didn't know who was calling.
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And that was good in some ways,
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and obviously bad in other ways'.
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There's a lot of scammers
and telemarketers,
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and anymore the telemarketers
are freaking lazy.
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They, they just have a bot do it.
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And, uh, you know, with AI coming on
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and all that, no matter, you know,
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who knows what's gonna
happen with the, uh,
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smartphones and all that.
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You know, I have a, an iPhone
15 Pro Max, whatever the,
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the, the latest greatest iPhone.
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And I do enjoy it.
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It has a wonderful camera, and,
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but I've just found it that
I'm very overconnected,
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I guess would be
be the way to, to put it.
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I, I, you know, I'm not too
worried about Google following
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me around and all that,
but, uh, I have decided
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that I'm gonna dego my, uh,
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existence on the internet at least.
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Uh, personally, of course,
uh, you know, we use a lot
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of Google for work.
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Um, you know, so I've gotta kinda do that.
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But I have it kind of
compartmentalized on my work computer.
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I have all the stuff that I need.
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I don't have it on my phone.
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And I, I do, you know, I,
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the only thing I have on my
phone that's Google related is,
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uh, YouTube and I, and
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because I have YouTube, I don't have
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to watch commercials other
than what's built into some
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of the YouTube channels.
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But, so that's, that's
one counter diction there.
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Yes, I'm still gonna be
watching YouTube now.
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I've tried Rumble and I like Rumble,
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but Rumble doesn't have the
variety of things that I like
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to watch that YouTube does.
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But anyway, get back to the
smartphone versus dumb phone
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versus de Googling and de
Facebooking and all that.
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Uh, I do have a Facebook,
I don't particularly, uh,
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post to it a whole lot.
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I use it, uh, mainly for work.
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And, you know, and usually
when I post something on
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Facebook, it's usually
something I think is funny.
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Anyway,, well, the
rest of you think that,
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but, uh, I, I don't, I
try not to use Facebook as
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a communications platform necessarily.
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Uh, I do use Twitter
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or X, um, I'm more active on that,
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but I still don't post a heck
of a lot on there either.
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I'm mostly lurking and reading and,
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and all that, which is
actually kind of a good thing.
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Uh, and I, and I don't have either
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of those apps on my cell phone.
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Now. I have an iPad, uh,
an iPad mini that I do.
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I don't carry it around
with me all that often,
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but when I'm home, I use that
kind of my easy chair machine.
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And, and, uh, I use it
for flying, you know,
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I got my electronic flight
bag on it and all the maps
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and, you know, that kind of stuff.
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But, uh, I don't carry it
around with me that much.
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So the location data thing isn't
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as big a deal as it is with a phone.
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Now, you know, of course your carrier has
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your location all the time,
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and probably nothing you can
do to block that, uh, you know,
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except for turning the whole thing off.
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. And even the new
dumb phones are that way.
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I was reading an article, uh, on the BBC
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and where is that?
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Ah, here it is. The, the
title of it is Not Smart,
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but Clever, the Return of Dumb Phones.
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And it seems to be a thing
with, uh, high school age
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or Gen ZI guess you would call that.
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Uh, you know, I don't
know, up to 20 somethings.
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Uh, I don't know, I don't know the
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generations all that well.
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I just know I'm a Gen X
, an early Gen X.
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But, uh, you know, in here,
in the article, you know,
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you're talking about this, uh,
this girl in, in high school
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that she just has a dumb phone, you know,
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Nokia thirty three ten, which is,
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it's about 24 years old now.
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Although they, uh, do
have newer versions of it.
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So I'm sure there's a lot
of the tracking stuff.
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And like I said, I'm not that
worried about the tracking
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as much, but the thing
is, is it's so easy,
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you know, when you get bored,
you pull out your phone
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and you look at something
and you pull out your phone
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and you look at something
else, you, you know, you scroll
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or, or, you know, we call, uh,
I call my, uh, iPad my, uh,
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toilet scroller,, you
know, sitting there instead
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of reading the newspaper or a magazine.
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Well, you got my iPad.
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So, like I said, I got
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but as far as my cell phone, I,
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I've dumbed it down a lot.
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I, I've taken off pretty
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quote unquote fun apps.
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You know, I don't have any games on it.
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I don't have, uh, you know,
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Uh, basically it's a telephone
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and a text device.
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You know, it's kind of a necessary evil.
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And I do have a browser on it,
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but I did go to the Brave Browser.
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So instead of using the Stock
Safari browser on iPhone
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or Chrome or any of those other ones,
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I figured that's good enough.
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I took all the mapping
programs off my phone,
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with the exception of Apple Maps.
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'cause you know, it is handy to be able
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to plug it into the truck and,
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and have the maps on the, on the screen.
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So that's, you know, that,
that's a compromise I'll take.
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And Apple seems to be better
at the privacy thing than a lot
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of other places, but maybe
not, uh, significantly.
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So you just never know.
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But, uh, they seem to be better at it.
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And, you know, other things I've done, I,
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I do have face ID on my phone, so you can,
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I can unlock it with my face.
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That's a convenience.
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But you think about that, if
you were to get pulled over
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by a police officer who
thinks you did something
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that you shouldn't have done,
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and they have your phone,
they can't unlock it.
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If you have face ID turned off, you know,
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otherwise, they just
hold it up to your face
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and get it to unlock.
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But if it has a code, of
course, when you have face id,
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you still have a code.
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Uh, and I don't know
how it works on Android.
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I, uh, decided that, uh, Android is not
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what I'm gonna be doing.
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So I guess I could do a de Googled Android
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phone if I wanted to.
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But, uh, I think, uh, I think
I'll stick with Apple just
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'cause they seem to last longer and,
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and they're reasonably good at privacy.
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But along that line, it's just, there's
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so many apps tracking.
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So I took off all the apps.
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I got to the Brave Browser as
my only browser on the phone.
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So if I really wanna
look something up, I can,
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I have a couple banking apps
on there that, uh, just,
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just makes it really easy.
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So I, I do that.
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I, I have the airline apps on
there, or I put them on right
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before a trip, is what I usually do.
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'cause I don't always
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And that works out pretty well
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because you just, you know,
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you use it and then you get rid of it.
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You know, just having a whole
bunch of apps on your phone
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just makes it so you wanna
play with it more.
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And it's amazing what
those devices will do.
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And, and I do see a use case for it.
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But, you know, I went to the restaurant,
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uh, with a buddy of mine.
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We, we do our Thursday night
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to solving the world's problem session.
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I got back from that a little while ago.
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This is Thursday night
when I'm recording this.
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And I just kinda looked around the place.
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We were just at a Chili's
and looked around the place,
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and there were people, you
know, couples there, you know,
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both looking at their phones instead
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of talking to each other.
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And, you know, I, I guess on
a, on, on one level, I think
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that's probably not good.
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I've dumbed down the phone
a little bit, uh, a phone
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that I was interested in.
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It's not either, it's,
it's not Apple, it's not,
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uh, Android.
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I'm sure it has some form
of Linux under the hood,
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but, uh, called the Light Phone.
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And it's at the light phone.com,
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and it has just the basic stuff on it.
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It has, uh, minimal, you
know, it's a minimal phone.
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It has an E Ink screen.
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Uh, it does not have social media.
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It does not have news.
It does not have email.
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It does not have, uh, a browser,
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but it does have some of the stuff
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that I would like to have.
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It, uh, does phone
calls, it does text, uh,
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does calendar alarm and podcasts.
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I don't know how well it does podcasts,
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but it also has Bluetooth.
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So you can play your podcasts through, uh,
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through your Bluetooth in
your car if you have that.
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And you can use it as a hotspot.
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So I was thinking, you know,
geez, I have a light phone
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and then an iPad,
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and, you know, so the iPad could be the,
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the one I do all the browsing and whatnot,
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and I don't always have
to bring that with me,
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but, you know, if I want to go light,
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I take the light phone.
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So, I don't know, I'm thinking about that.
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They're a little spendy and
I haven't seen one in person.
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But, uh, it looks like
quite the compromise
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between the smart and the dumb phone.
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And I'll have an article here
that I, uh, went through.
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I didn't do everything
in this article that, uh,
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they suggest, but it's, uh, how
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to turn Your iPhone into
a dumb phone,.
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And, uh, it, uh, you
know, you could do it.
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That's the thing. And the,
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and the beauty of that is, is
if you ever wanna add an app
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for some reason, you
know, if you're traveling
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or whatever, you throw it
on there, you do your thing,
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you turn it off, um, you know, it's,
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and there's a lot of other,
you know, privacy stuff.
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But like I said, I'm not
that worried about privacy.
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I wanna avoid ads, and I
wanna avoid distractions.
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Uh, I find that it's a lot
nicer to take a drive, uh,
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and just not have to worry
about the phone ringing.
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'cause I, I don't answer
my phone when I'm driving.
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I, you know, unless I'm
on a really long trip.
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But if I'm just driving
around town, it'll wait,
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leave a voicemail, send me a
text, I'll read it when I stop.
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Or my, technically the
truck will read it to me
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or the, the, the, uh,
Siri lady in the, uh,
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in CarPlay.
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But, uh, you know, most of the time
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that stuff's not an emergency, you know?
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And what did we do 20 years ago?
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And not everybody was
carrying around a phone
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or maybe 30 years ago, I
don't know, just getting old.
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But, uh, you know, I remember
traveling cross country.
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I didn't have a phone.
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I didn't have a GPS, you had a map
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or several maps, you know,
I used to go between here
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and Idaho, uh, you know,
uh, at least once a year.
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And I'd make that entire
trip with a map, a ham radio,
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and, uh, an am FM radio in the truck.
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I didn't even have cassettes or CDs.
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I mean, you know, CDs were around,
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but, uh, didn't have any
of that in the truck.
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I just had, uh, A MFM.
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And, uh, yeah, that was good enough.
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You know, you list to an AM
station at night, you know,
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you could listen to it for a long time
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and, you know, listen to talk radio
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or whatever, if you wanna
find some music there,
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it's all over the FM dial.
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The only thing is you had
to change the channel every
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so often when you run out of the station.
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Wasn't, uh, wasn't really a big deal.
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And I wasn't going too
far off the beaten trail,
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so it wasn't like I
needed to find, you know,
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some place out in the middle
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of the mountain somewhere,.
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So I didn't need the GPS.
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The GPS didn't even exist at the time.
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And, you know, now we're spoiled,
you know, satellite radio
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and, and, uh, you know, streaming
stuff to our phones and,
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and podcasts and all that stuff.
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You know, I, I believe
me, I love podcasts.
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Uh, you know, I, I do
them. I, I listen to them.
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I, I do all that stuff,
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but I don't, uh, you know,
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I don't wanna be continually
inundated with news,
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and I don't, I don't need
to know all that stuff.
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If anything really big
happens, I'll figure it out.
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Uh, so I, you know, I'm still continuing.
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This is, I'm going on four years
here that I don't watch any
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of the national news.
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I read some of it. Uh, and,
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and another thing, you know, geez,
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I'm just going all over on
this tech stuff, you know,
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I said, I'm a geek, but man,
I'm telling you, it's, uh,
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it's getting to the point where,
uh, it, it's overwhelming.
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Uh, not that I don't know
what it does, and I don't,
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and I do understand its value,
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but I think we're, we're going down a path
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that's gonna really mess
us up, uh, in the future.
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You know, what happened? Like
today, uh, this morning at
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and t had a massive
outage almost nationwide,
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on their cellular network.
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And people were freaking out.
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Uh, you know, my sister calls me, uh,
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or text me, actually,
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and she did it via wifi on,
uh, you know, on the ambulance.
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She goes, Hey, I don't
have any phone service,
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or no internet, whatever, you
know, then their wifi at home.
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And, you know, she was
just freaking out about it.
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She's like, what
happened? What's going on?
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You know, and all that.
Well, you know, I, you know,
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my theory is that it was a
couple of, uh, X-Class flares
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that came off the sun earlier,
uh, last night, I guess.
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But, uh, messed something up. Who knows?
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Uh, talking maybe even, uh,
cyber attacks or whatever.
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But, you know, people would
be lost without their phones.
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Now, you know, it's, I, I've
made it a habit of mine to, uh,
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every once in a while, just
leave the phone at home when I
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go out, you know, go out,
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run errands, I'll leave the phone at home.
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I've done that a few times.
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Not very often, but I've done it.
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So, like I said, I'm a
little bit of an enigma.
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'cause I, I still, you know,
I love the tech that I love,
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but just everywhere is advertising and,
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and it's targeted advertising, you know,
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and you got these,
these, uh, speaker boxes
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and, uh, you know, I wanna say her name,
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but, uh, you know, the
Amazon Echo device, uh,
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you know, we've got 'em.
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And, you know, plus your
phone's listening to you.
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And if you have Facebook on your
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phone, Facebook's listening to you.
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Uh, I'm sure X is listening.
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Everybody that's selling ads
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and data are listening, you know,
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and, you know, I'm not
totally against ads, uh,
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but I like to avoid them as much as I can.
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Now, you know, podcasts that
I like, that have ads in 'em,
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I generally listen through the ads.
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Uh, if it's in a, in, you know,
if it's a way they can tell
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that I actually listen or not,
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but, uh, for the most part, they can't.
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Um, and I'll sometimes forward
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through 'em if I've heard the
ad 200 times or something.
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But, uh, you know,
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but if, if it's a podcast that
I'm thinking about, you know,
436
00:21:45,925 --> 00:21:48,125
subscribing to, or listening
to on a regular basis,
437
00:21:48,585 --> 00:21:50,565
if they overdo the ads, I'm out of there.
438
00:21:51,385 --> 00:21:53,245
You know, same thing
with YouTube channels.
439
00:21:53,265 --> 00:21:54,885
If I watch a YouTube channel
440
00:21:54,985 --> 00:21:57,685
and every 10 minutes the
host is doing a host read
441
00:21:57,685 --> 00:22:00,925
endorsement for something that
he's talking about on the,
442
00:22:01,185 --> 00:22:04,565
on the video, eh, probably
won't watch that much anymore.
443
00:22:05,425 --> 00:22:08,205
You know, they get paid pretty
good from YouTube for people
444
00:22:08,205 --> 00:22:11,685
that don't pay the, whatever
it is, 15 bucks a month,
445
00:22:11,745 --> 00:22:13,605
or, you know, they get YouTube premium.
446
00:22:14,385 --> 00:22:18,005
And I do that because, again,
I just don't want the ads,
447
00:22:18,945 --> 00:22:20,685
and I don't, you know, I don't need
448
00:22:20,685 --> 00:22:22,285
to be inundated with tracking.
449
00:22:23,265 --> 00:22:27,205
But, you know, famous famously,
to me, I guess,
450
00:22:27,675 --> 00:22:29,445
there's nothing famous about this,
451
00:22:30,025 --> 00:22:32,845
but, uh, my wife
452
00:22:32,845 --> 00:22:35,365
and I, a few years ago, were
talking about getting the, uh,
453
00:22:35,635 --> 00:22:37,845
underground fence for our dogs.
454
00:22:39,085 --> 00:22:40,805
'cause, you know, we're
like, well, you know, they,
455
00:22:41,145 --> 00:22:43,005
the fence that we have,
we have a regular fence.
456
00:22:43,145 --> 00:22:47,045
And, and, you know, it's good
enough for most situations,
457
00:22:47,265 --> 00:22:49,925
but, you know, sometimes
the gate gets knocked open
458
00:22:50,025 --> 00:22:52,725
or left open or something,
and they could get out.
459
00:22:52,725 --> 00:22:54,045
And, you know, we live on a busy road
460
00:22:54,105 --> 00:22:56,365
and, you know, I, you know,
461
00:22:56,365 --> 00:22:58,165
just don't wanna be tracking down beagles.
462
00:22:59,145 --> 00:23:02,005
So, uh, we were talking about that,
463
00:23:02,185 --> 00:23:06,685
and I swear she got on her
computer, on her laptop, um,
464
00:23:06,715 --> 00:23:09,485
sitting in the easy chair
and went to Facebook.
465
00:23:10,105 --> 00:23:14,005
And then immediately there
were ads for underground fences
466
00:23:14,225 --> 00:23:18,565
and, uh, GPS dog collars
and all that sort of stuff.
467
00:23:18,585 --> 00:23:20,325
And I mean, it was like instantaneous.
468
00:23:20,625 --> 00:23:23,685
So I don't know whether
her phone was listening,
469
00:23:23,705 --> 00:23:26,645
or Facebook was listening,
or Google was listening,
470
00:23:26,785 --> 00:23:31,085
or the Amazon talking tube lady
was listening, I don't know.
471
00:23:32,225 --> 00:23:34,845
But, uh, you know, that
just kinda creeped me out.
472
00:23:34,905 --> 00:23:36,685
And it, and it happens a lot.
473
00:23:36,985 --> 00:23:39,645
And it, you know, you would,
you'd be amazed at the amount
474
00:23:39,645 --> 00:23:41,445
of data they have on
you if you're carrying
475
00:23:41,445 --> 00:23:46,325
around a smartphone, and probably
not avoidable completely,
476
00:23:46,945 --> 00:23:48,645
but you could mitigate some of it.
477
00:23:49,025 --> 00:23:50,365
Uh, and,
478
00:23:50,505 --> 00:23:54,005
and again, you know, back
to the attention span thing,
479
00:23:54,305 --> 00:23:57,645
you know, I, I made the
mistake one time of, uh,
480
00:23:57,955 --> 00:24:00,045
loading TikTok on, uh, on a phone,
481
00:24:00,945 --> 00:24:03,165
and it was like a time warp.
482
00:24:03,605 --> 00:24:06,605
I don't think I, I, I think I
was on that app for two hours
483
00:24:06,665 --> 00:24:07,885
and it felt like 10 minutes.
484
00:24:08,945 --> 00:24:13,165
And so they really got
that algo dialed in to,
485
00:24:13,265 --> 00:24:14,805
uh, keep your attention.
486
00:24:14,945 --> 00:24:16,285
You know, same thing with Facebook.
487
00:24:16,305 --> 00:24:19,165
You know, the, you scroll down Facebook
488
00:24:19,345 --> 00:24:20,485
and your timeline there,
489
00:24:20,665 --> 00:24:24,405
and they'll always be some
sensational clickbait thing that,
490
00:24:24,405 --> 00:24:25,685
oh, I wanna check this out.
491
00:24:25,745 --> 00:24:28,205
And then before you know it,
you've wasted a whole bunch
492
00:24:28,205 --> 00:24:30,525
of time for a whole bunch of nothing.
493
00:24:31,705 --> 00:24:35,885
And one of the things that
I, I find also interesting
494
00:24:36,595 --> 00:24:40,605
that most people probably
don't even know about anymore,
495
00:24:41,225 --> 00:24:44,525
but it used to be really popular
in the early two thousands,
496
00:24:45,385 --> 00:24:47,285
was, uh, feed readers.
497
00:24:48,185 --> 00:24:51,205
So, you know, this same
thing that gets you this, uh,
498
00:24:51,235 --> 00:24:56,165
this podcast RSS can also get
you written, written stuff,
499
00:24:56,985 --> 00:25:00,565
uh, blog posts or news or whatever.
500
00:25:01,305 --> 00:25:06,165
And I recently downloaded an
app on my iPad, not my iPhone,
501
00:25:06,385 --> 00:25:09,845
but my iPad, and let me look it up.
502
00:25:11,225 --> 00:25:12,805
Uh, I forget what it's called,
503
00:25:13,265 --> 00:25:15,325
but it's an, uh, open source,
504
00:25:17,095 --> 00:25:19,235
uh, feed reader.
505
00:25:20,015 --> 00:25:21,795
And what is it called?
506
00:25:22,985 --> 00:25:27,795
Well, that's just embarrassing,
eh, in my news folder.
507
00:25:28,205 --> 00:25:30,715
Might be. Yeah, that's where it is.
508
00:25:31,025 --> 00:25:34,035
It's called News Net News Wire.
509
00:25:35,415 --> 00:25:37,795
And believe it or not, there's a whole lot
510
00:25:37,815 --> 00:25:41,435
of stuff out there that is,
that has RSS feed, just look
511
00:25:41,435 --> 00:25:44,555
for the little RSS logo
on, uh, on websites
512
00:25:45,015 --> 00:25:46,715
or even email newsletters.
513
00:25:47,455 --> 00:25:51,475
We have a couple of local
newsletters, the Traverse ticker
514
00:25:51,495 --> 00:25:53,995
and the, uh, le ticker,
515
00:25:53,995 --> 00:25:55,875
and it's a daily newsletter, you know,
516
00:25:55,875 --> 00:25:58,355
just stuff going on in the area, you know,
517
00:25:58,355 --> 00:26:00,395
and it's not a political thing,
518
00:26:00,455 --> 00:26:01,995
and it's not a, you know,
519
00:26:01,995 --> 00:26:03,955
controversial thing most of the time.
520
00:26:04,015 --> 00:26:05,475
It just tells you, you know, kind
521
00:26:05,475 --> 00:26:07,835
of what's going on in the area.
522
00:26:08,095 --> 00:26:10,075
And they have RSS,
523
00:26:10,335 --> 00:26:14,275
and the, the link was
right in the, you know,
524
00:26:14,315 --> 00:26:15,315
right in the newsletter.
525
00:26:15,595 --> 00:26:18,235
I opened up the newsletter
and I saw that RSS link.
526
00:26:18,275 --> 00:26:19,515
I said, oh, let's check this out.
527
00:26:19,575 --> 00:26:22,395
And then I got to looking at feed readers
528
00:26:22,495 --> 00:26:25,475
and found that Net Newswire,
it's pretty darn good.
529
00:26:26,935 --> 00:26:29,195
So, you know, you might think
of that instead of, you know,
530
00:26:29,195 --> 00:26:31,755
going to Facebook or Twitter or,
531
00:26:32,215 --> 00:26:36,235
or X whatever to get your news, uh,
532
00:26:36,455 --> 00:26:39,875
or, you know, go, God forbid,
the, uh, network news sites
533
00:26:39,975 --> 00:26:41,235
or the cable news sites.
534
00:26:42,025 --> 00:26:44,565
It's a, you know, barren
wasteland of garbage
535
00:26:45,615 --> 00:26:47,205
scare, scare, scare.
536
00:26:48,545 --> 00:26:51,485
But, uh, you know, if you find some blog
537
00:26:51,545 --> 00:26:54,805
or reasonable news source,
oh, get the hiccups,
538
00:26:55,255 --> 00:26:58,565
reasonable news source
that you can subscribe
539
00:26:58,585 --> 00:27:00,485
to via an RSS feed.
540
00:27:01,755 --> 00:27:04,925
Well, there you go. There's
your decentralized news.
541
00:27:04,995 --> 00:27:06,925
Just like, you know, what you're listening
542
00:27:06,925 --> 00:27:08,725
to now is decentralized media.
543
00:27:09,745 --> 00:27:12,085
Uh, you know, I don't do this show as much
544
00:27:12,085 --> 00:27:15,565
as I thought I would, but
I still keep it alive.
545
00:27:15,665 --> 00:27:17,685
So I appreciate you guys for hanging out.
546
00:27:18,545 --> 00:27:22,005
But, uh, you know, this will be here.
547
00:27:22,505 --> 00:27:25,005
Uh, this podcast will be here,
548
00:27:25,065 --> 00:27:27,325
or it'll be somewhere that
you'll be able to find,
549
00:27:28,035 --> 00:27:32,805
because it's not controlled
by Apple, it's not controlled
550
00:27:33,145 --> 00:27:37,325
by Facebook, it's not
controlled by Spotify.
551
00:27:37,445 --> 00:27:40,285
I hate them too. Although
I love their music service.
552
00:27:40,525 --> 00:27:41,965
I know I'm a, I'm a bunch
553
00:27:41,965 --> 00:27:44,965
of enigmas wrapped in a confused mess.
554
00:27:45,105 --> 00:27:46,725
But, uh, you know, Spotify,
555
00:27:46,905 --> 00:27:47,965
if they'd just stay in their
556
00:27:47,965 --> 00:27:49,165
lane, would've done pretty good.
557
00:27:49,265 --> 00:27:50,725
You know, they're a music service.
558
00:27:50,725 --> 00:27:52,445
They're not a podcast service, and,
559
00:27:52,705 --> 00:27:54,445
and they spend a billion dollars trying
560
00:27:54,445 --> 00:27:55,605
to get into podcasting.
561
00:27:55,705 --> 00:27:58,205
And, you know, to some,
they seem successful.
562
00:27:58,345 --> 00:28:03,285
But again, you know, how many
people do you personally know
563
00:28:03,515 --> 00:28:05,685
that listen to their podcasts on Spotify?
564
00:28:06,985 --> 00:28:09,205
Uh, probably not that many.
565
00:28:10,185 --> 00:28:11,645
Or maybe you're one of those people
566
00:28:11,645 --> 00:28:14,045
that don't have very many people
that you know, that listen
567
00:28:14,045 --> 00:28:15,365
to podcasts at all.
568
00:28:16,465 --> 00:28:20,685
But, you know, I, I just,
again, go back to, uh, you know,
569
00:28:20,685 --> 00:28:22,125
keeping things free and open.
570
00:28:22,985 --> 00:28:25,565
Uh, you know, podcasting is still it.
571
00:28:25,865 --> 00:28:30,805
Uh, you know, if, if Apple
and Spotify and iHeart
572
00:28:30,985 --> 00:28:34,405
and, you know, all these big company,
573
00:28:34,705 --> 00:28:36,965
big tech companies decide they don't like
574
00:28:36,965 --> 00:28:39,285
what I'm talking about, and
they take me outta their app,
575
00:28:40,295 --> 00:28:41,505
well, I'm still here.
576
00:28:42,425 --> 00:28:46,445
And if you get a modern podcast
app over@podcastapps.com,
577
00:28:47,225 --> 00:28:49,245
you can, uh, you know,
you'll still get it.
578
00:28:49,365 --> 00:28:51,005
RSS will still continue to work,
579
00:28:52,065 --> 00:28:53,405
you know, one way at the other.
580
00:28:53,475 --> 00:28:54,525
I'll make sure it works.
581
00:28:55,105 --> 00:28:57,925
And, and that's, you know,
582
00:28:59,145 --> 00:29:00,525
that's the good thing about it.
583
00:29:00,545 --> 00:29:03,405
But, you know, just simplifying as much
584
00:29:03,425 --> 00:29:05,925
as possible on your phone is, you know,
585
00:29:05,925 --> 00:29:07,405
help you in the both of those ways.
586
00:29:08,305 --> 00:29:12,165
Uh, you know, whether
attention span or distraction
587
00:29:12,265 --> 00:29:13,885
or waste of time or,
588
00:29:14,625 --> 00:29:17,165
or, uh, you know, just, I mean,
589
00:29:17,165 --> 00:29:19,405
people are having neck problems these days
590
00:29:19,405 --> 00:29:21,605
because they're always
staring down at a screen.
591
00:29:22,545 --> 00:29:25,165
You know, I remember I
used to be able to watch TV
592
00:29:25,265 --> 00:29:26,845
and just actually watch tv.
593
00:29:27,875 --> 00:29:29,005
Well, now you can't do that
594
00:29:29,405 --> 00:29:32,525
'cause you got six minutes of
commercials every 10 minutes.
595
00:29:33,545 --> 00:29:35,445
Uh, or, you know, maybe not that much,
596
00:29:35,465 --> 00:29:36,925
but it seems that way sometime.
597
00:29:37,315 --> 00:29:40,845
Even the streamers now are
doing that, you know, if, uh,
598
00:29:41,315 --> 00:29:44,845
like Netflix is even talking
about throwing ads in there
599
00:29:45,745 --> 00:29:47,085
unless you pay 'em extra.
600
00:29:48,025 --> 00:29:50,725
Uh, so all those shows, and,
601
00:29:50,725 --> 00:29:51,965
and, you know, you can't even forward
602
00:29:51,965 --> 00:29:53,645
through the ads on the streamers.
603
00:29:54,385 --> 00:29:57,045
Uh, the only, you know, we,
we have a couple of 'em.
604
00:29:57,045 --> 00:29:58,965
We have Netflix. My, my wife likes
605
00:29:58,965 --> 00:30:02,045
that we have Apple TV only
'cause I bought this new iPad
606
00:30:02,145 --> 00:30:04,125
and we got, uh, a month free.
607
00:30:04,805 --> 00:30:06,805
I don't know if we're
gonna continue to use it.
608
00:30:07,325 --> 00:30:09,685
I have Amazon Prime mainly
for the free shipping,
609
00:30:10,745 --> 00:30:13,365
but, uh, you know, there
is some prime video that's,
610
00:30:13,515 --> 00:30:14,525
that is interesting.
611
00:30:15,065 --> 00:30:19,325
But I pretty rarely
watch any over the air tv
612
00:30:20,705 --> 00:30:23,115
and that simplifies it.
613
00:30:23,115 --> 00:30:25,995
You know, I have a, a, an
antenna now, I don't have cable.
614
00:30:27,155 --> 00:30:31,315
I have, uh, you know, I
have way more stuff to watch
615
00:30:32,095 --> 00:30:35,035
on the internet, uh,
through the Apple TV or the,
616
00:30:35,815 --> 00:30:38,475
or in this case, in my
office here, I've got a, uh,
617
00:30:38,615 --> 00:30:39,715
Amazon Fire Stick.
618
00:30:40,655 --> 00:30:43,835
But, uh, you know, I can
watch all kinds of stuff,
619
00:30:43,905 --> 00:30:44,915
even live stuff.
620
00:30:45,215 --> 00:30:48,355
Uh, you know, there's lots of live feeds
621
00:30:48,355 --> 00:30:49,875
that you can listen to or watch.
622
00:30:51,055 --> 00:30:53,235
And so there's a lot
of stuff to listen to.
623
00:30:54,135 --> 00:30:56,555
And, you know, kind of
when I was, you know,
624
00:30:56,555 --> 00:30:59,315
when I was younger and we
didn't have all this internet
625
00:30:59,315 --> 00:31:01,475
stuff, I did a lot of shortwave listening.
626
00:31:02,615 --> 00:31:05,115
And now a lot of that has
all gone to the internet.
627
00:31:05,175 --> 00:31:07,035
You know, the BBC World Service,
628
00:31:07,515 --> 00:31:10,115
I think still transmits on a few towers,
629
00:31:10,175 --> 00:31:14,755
but for the most part, they're,
uh, an internet service.
630
00:31:14,935 --> 00:31:15,955
The Voice of America.
631
00:31:16,295 --> 00:31:20,795
Uh, I know for a fact
they got, uh, 500, so 500
632
00:31:20,855 --> 00:31:24,915
or so, so shows that formerly were, uh,
633
00:31:25,065 --> 00:31:26,795
transmitted on shortwave.
634
00:31:26,815 --> 00:31:29,955
Now they're, they do still
transmit on shortwave
635
00:31:29,955 --> 00:31:32,355
around the world and, and all that.
636
00:31:32,815 --> 00:31:35,195
But that's what we listened
to back in the day.
637
00:31:35,575 --> 00:31:37,275
Or we would watch, you know, TV
638
00:31:37,415 --> 00:31:41,995
and back then, you know, tv,
you went to the, uh, you went
639
00:31:41,995 --> 00:31:45,555
to MTV, that was music, music television.
640
00:31:45,555 --> 00:31:48,515
You go to CMTV, it was
country Music Television.
641
00:31:49,335 --> 00:31:51,555
Uh, you go to the Discovery Channel
642
00:31:51,615 --> 00:31:53,115
and you actually discovered things.
643
00:31:53,415 --> 00:31:54,755
Uh, you went to History Channel
644
00:31:54,855 --> 00:31:56,675
and they talked about history.
645
00:31:56,825 --> 00:32:00,195
Imagine that, or the Weather
Channel even now, uh,
646
00:32:00,505 --> 00:32:04,195
it's mostly reality
shows and, and all that.
647
00:32:04,195 --> 00:32:05,595
And very little weather, you know,
648
00:32:05,595 --> 00:32:07,995
you get the little scroller
around the side of the screen.
649
00:32:08,135 --> 00:32:10,395
But, uh, that's it for weather, you know,
650
00:32:10,395 --> 00:32:11,475
it's not like it used to be.
651
00:32:12,575 --> 00:32:15,715
And, you know, everybody's kind
of going to the same model,
652
00:32:15,895 --> 00:32:18,795
and, and I'm just tired of it, you know,
653
00:32:18,815 --> 00:32:19,835
and, you know, back
654
00:32:19,835 --> 00:32:22,795
to the dumb phone versus
smartphone thing, it's like,
655
00:32:22,935 --> 00:32:26,115
you know, I would love at
some point in the future to,
656
00:32:26,175 --> 00:32:28,515
to just, just have like a light phone
657
00:32:28,575 --> 00:32:31,675
or something similar to that,
or a dumbed down iPhone.
658
00:32:32,295 --> 00:32:33,515
You know, the only thing I have
659
00:32:33,515 --> 00:32:36,195
to have really on a phone is podcasts.
660
00:32:37,255 --> 00:32:39,805
And I could probably get
away with not doing that
661
00:32:39,945 --> 00:32:41,445
and go back to the old way
662
00:32:41,445 --> 00:32:46,365
of putting it on a portable
device, an iPod type device,
663
00:32:46,475 --> 00:32:48,925
even though they don't
really make a iPod anymore.
664
00:32:49,945 --> 00:32:52,725
Uh, but, uh, you know, something like
665
00:32:52,725 --> 00:32:56,645
that I'm sure still exists
that, uh, if you really wanted
666
00:32:56,645 --> 00:33:00,925
to, you could go completely
off the grid and, and do that.
667
00:33:01,105 --> 00:33:04,405
And, I find that I'm
watching a lot of off grid, uh,
668
00:33:04,475 --> 00:33:06,005
YouTube channels as well.
669
00:33:06,825 --> 00:33:10,885
Uh, a lot of, a lot of people
are, are getting into that.
670
00:33:11,545 --> 00:33:15,765
And, uh, you know, it's, it is
interesting how much you can
671
00:33:16,505 --> 00:33:19,645
do without a lot of the tech.
672
00:33:20,305 --> 00:33:21,685
Now, you know, a lot of 'em are, you know,
673
00:33:21,795 --> 00:33:23,245
obviously I'm watching a YouTube
674
00:33:23,245 --> 00:33:24,605
channel, so they're into tech.
675
00:33:25,465 --> 00:33:28,125
But you know, this one
guy in West Virginia
676
00:33:28,125 --> 00:33:30,245
that I've been watching, uh, you know,
677
00:33:30,245 --> 00:33:31,805
he's got a solar set up,
678
00:33:31,825 --> 00:33:33,765
and of course he's got
a portable generator,
679
00:33:34,865 --> 00:33:36,525
and he works from home.
680
00:33:36,525 --> 00:33:37,525
He has his own business.
681
00:33:37,665 --> 00:33:41,125
So, you know, he, he makes
products and sends them out,
682
00:33:41,125 --> 00:33:42,765
or has them made and sends them out.
683
00:33:42,865 --> 00:33:46,005
So, plus he's doing pretty good
on YouTube. I, I understand.
684
00:33:46,865 --> 00:33:49,845
So he's got quite the
lifestyle where he doesn't have
685
00:33:50,885 --> 00:33:52,525
a television necessarily.
686
00:33:52,875 --> 00:33:54,565
He's got, well, he does have a tv,
687
00:33:54,665 --> 00:33:57,645
but I don't think it's hooked
up to anything that would get
688
00:33:57,715 --> 00:33:59,485
outside stuff other than internet.
689
00:34:00,145 --> 00:34:02,685
And he does have a, you
know, starlink internet.
690
00:34:02,745 --> 00:34:03,965
So, you know, he is tech,
691
00:34:04,705 --> 00:34:08,635
but it's a much simpler existence.
692
00:34:09,695 --> 00:34:12,355
And I don't know if I'm
ready quite for that.
693
00:34:12,675 --> 00:34:16,915
I don't feel like chopping wood
and, and, uh, raising ducks
694
00:34:16,935 --> 00:34:18,275
and geese and,
695
00:34:19,815 --> 00:34:23,315
and, uh, whatever, raising
my own food or whatnot.
696
00:34:23,675 --> 00:34:26,195
Probably not a bad idea,
but, uh, I really can't do it
697
00:34:26,195 --> 00:34:27,395
where I am and I don't feel like moving.
698
00:34:27,575 --> 00:34:32,155
So,, I'm lazy.
Come on, I wasn't lazy.
699
00:34:32,205 --> 00:34:33,555
You'd get episode of this,
700
00:34:33,745 --> 00:34:37,275
this podcast more often, figure that out.
701
00:34:37,305 --> 00:34:39,475
Some of the new things we're,
uh, doing at Blueberry.
702
00:34:39,475 --> 00:34:44,275
You'll notice, hopefully if it
all works, uh, on my website,
703
00:34:44,335 --> 00:34:46,995
the new player there, uh, has chapters
704
00:34:47,375 --> 00:34:51,515
and, uh, I generate that via, uh,
705
00:34:51,975 --> 00:34:54,715
AI thing on blueberry that we're testing.
706
00:34:55,695 --> 00:34:58,755
So I generate those
chapter files that way.
707
00:34:58,975 --> 00:35:01,275
So there'll be little spots in the player
708
00:35:01,375 --> 00:35:03,555
or apps that you, you know, if you get one
709
00:35:03,555 --> 00:35:06,795
of those new apps
over@podcastapps.com
710
00:35:07,455 --> 00:35:09,795
and look for one that, uh, does chapters,
711
00:35:10,215 --> 00:35:12,435
and you could jump
around, of course, I jump
712
00:35:12,435 --> 00:35:13,515
around, uh, for you.
713
00:35:13,615 --> 00:35:15,475
So you probably don't
need it on this show,
714
00:35:15,575 --> 00:35:18,075
but, you know, you'll
notice that some, a lot
715
00:35:18,075 --> 00:35:19,315
of other shows are doing that.
716
00:35:19,665 --> 00:35:20,995
Same thing with transcripts.
717
00:35:21,615 --> 00:35:24,875
Uh, I've been putting transcripts
on these here, you know,
718
00:35:24,935 --> 00:35:28,155
the last, I don't know,
probably a couple years.
719
00:35:29,255 --> 00:35:32,595
And now Apple is even going
720
00:35:32,595 --> 00:35:34,475
to start pulling in transcripts
721
00:35:34,615 --> 00:35:37,525
or creating one for you if
you don't do it yourself.
722
00:35:37,585 --> 00:35:40,445
The one, the only problem with
that is it's only on Apple.
723
00:35:41,065 --> 00:35:45,485
If you do it through, uh,
through one of these new apps,
724
00:35:45,865 --> 00:35:47,205
uh, it's everywhere.
725
00:35:47,825 --> 00:35:50,205
And that's, you know, that's a good thing.
726
00:35:50,245 --> 00:35:53,605
I, I don't, you know, a lot of
people are hearing impaired,
727
00:35:54,005 --> 00:35:56,245
probably don't listen to podcasts
728
00:35:56,305 --> 00:35:59,005
or consume podcasts in most ways,
729
00:35:59,185 --> 00:36:00,885
but they do now have that option.
730
00:36:01,945 --> 00:36:03,605
Uh, you could read it.
731
00:36:03,965 --> 00:36:05,405
I don't know if I'd wanna read this one,
732
00:36:06,145 --> 00:36:07,405
but it could be interesting.
733
00:36:07,685 --> 00:36:09,245
I dunno if you hear the jet taking off,
734
00:36:09,305 --> 00:36:13,565
but, uh, away he goes, remember,
735
00:36:13,585 --> 00:36:14,725
I'm close to the airport.
736
00:36:15,945 --> 00:36:18,405
So anyway, I guess I've
rambled on long enough
737
00:36:18,505 --> 00:36:21,285
and, uh, jumped subjects
four or five, six times.
738
00:36:22,585 --> 00:36:24,685
But yeah, that's why you listen to me.
739
00:36:25,905 --> 00:36:28,045
So with that, everybody have a good,
740
00:36:28,315 --> 00:36:30,165
however long it is, till the next one.
741
00:36:30,945 --> 00:36:34,325
And, uh, if you wanna hear me
on a more regular basis, uh,
742
00:36:34,325 --> 00:36:36,685
auto history podcast.com,
743
00:36:37,145 --> 00:36:40,285
that's the Auto History
podcast in video and audio.
744
00:36:41,345 --> 00:36:44,325
And, uh, that's with my
co-host Mike Wilkerson from the
745
00:36:44,325 --> 00:36:45,445
Two Guys Talking Network.
746
00:36:46,265 --> 00:36:47,765
And, uh, we're committed
747
00:36:47,765 --> 00:36:50,365
to doing two episodes
a month, uh, for now.
748
00:36:50,655 --> 00:36:53,445
We'll probably kick that up
at some point in the future.
749
00:36:54,505 --> 00:36:56,245
And of course, you can hear me on Podcast
750
00:36:56,835 --> 00:36:59,325
Insider at least three
outta four weeks a month.
751
00:37:00,145 --> 00:37:02,085
Uh, we switch up the host.
752
00:37:02,305 --> 00:37:04,605
So it's, uh, I'm usually on three of 'em.
753
00:37:04,945 --> 00:37:08,725
Todd's on three of 'em, and
McKenzie is on three of 'em.
754
00:37:08,725 --> 00:37:11,685
And however that works out,
uh,, where it pairs.
755
00:37:12,345 --> 00:37:15,045
But, uh, podcast insider.com
756
00:37:15,945 --> 00:37:20,485
and, uh, that, uh, that one
does come out every single week.
757
00:37:20,945 --> 00:37:25,045
If you're interested in podcasting
on the, uh, business side
758
00:37:25,045 --> 00:37:28,765
or creator side, uh, that's
a good one to listen to.
759
00:37:30,275 --> 00:37:34,535
And I'll have a few links in
the, uh, show notes here just
760
00:37:34,595 --> 00:37:36,935
to, uh, you know, talk about stuff.
761
00:37:36,975 --> 00:37:39,935
I talked about the article
from BBC, the light phone,
762
00:37:40,955 --> 00:37:44,135
and, uh, turning Your
iPhone into a dumb phone.
763
00:37:45,675 --> 00:37:48,655
So with that, catch me later.
764
00:37:51,035 --> 00:37:51,155
I.
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- Mike Dell's World number 3 98.
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And today is the
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22nd of February, 2024.
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Happy New Year since I didn't, uh, talk,
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I haven't talked to you since November.
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Well, or maybe December.
I don't know,
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Anyway, all is well here
in northern Michigan.
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And today I want to talk
about a particular subject,
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but, uh, I figured I'd catch you up on all
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the personal details.
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I, uh, had my shoulder surgery in October,
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which if you listen to any
of the Nap Pot Pomo episodes,
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I was in the midst of recovering.
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Well, I'm, I'd say 90%
recovered, uh, back to,
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uh, flying.
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So I've been doing quite a bit
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of flying here lately,
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So been fun. And, uh, I got all that, uh,
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you know, got all the, the, the
shoulder pain taken care of.
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It's still a little stiff.
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Don't quite have the range of motion that,
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uh, I have had in the past.
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By the way, I don't have any,
uh, fancy sound effects today
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because, uh, I'm using a
different, uh, USB interface.
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Uh, my road caster keeps failing me,
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and I think it's more the
computer than the road caster.
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So, uh, I'm using a foresight, uh, solo.
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That's what it's called.
So if it sounds a little,
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it shouldn't sound any different.
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Uh, got the same, uh, setup otherwise.
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But, uh, anyway,
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that's why I'm not gonna
play the intro music
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and all that stuff 'cause I don't like
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to edit if I don't have to.
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And speaking of podcasting, of course, uh,
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you guys might know that I
started another podcast with,
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uh, Mike Wilkerson.
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So I have a partner in crime,
and we're doing it slow.
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So, uh, we're starting out
with a couple episodes a month,
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but they're gonna be coming
out in video podcast,
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audio podcast
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and YouTube, A YouTube channel,
a a proper YouTube channel,
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not a, not a, uh, fake
video YouTube channel,
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like you could find this show
on if you go to YouTube music.
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I'm now on YouTube music with this one.
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And also there's a, a YouTube channel.
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But, uh, basically it's just
this audio with, uh, the,
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the, uh, artwork, uh, as a still shot.
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So it's kind of, kind of lame
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You're better off going
to, uh, podcast apps.com
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and pick one of your,
pick one of those apps.
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Uh, lately I've been using castomatic
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and it has a lot of neat features.
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Not all the features, but,
uh, a lot of neat ones, uh,
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from podcasting 2.0, another
one, another good one is,
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- Uh, of course, pod verse and Fountain.
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Those are, uh, pretty popular these days.
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And, and, uh, another one you
might like is podcast guru.
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Nice thing about Castomatic
is, if you like overcast,
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and I still like overcast,
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but if you like overcast,
this is kind of the, uh,
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uh, it's not a quite a
clone, but darn close.
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And, and the nice thing I like about
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that is it has a thing called collections
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or smart playlists that
work really good, uh, for
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how I like to listen to podcasts.
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You know, I have them separated
by aviation, uh, cars,
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uh, news, uh, you know, just to, you know,
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have a fun category where I
just throw things in there and,
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and, you know, it, it
works out really good.
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'cause it automatically puts,
you know, a playlist together
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of those types of shows
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that you've downloaded to your phone.
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And speaking of phones, that's
gonna be the main subject
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of today's episode.
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We've been doing a lot of
thinking about, you know,
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all this stuff we have in our
pocket, you know, the little
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device that can do just about
everything and anything.
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And you, there's an app for that.
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Well, all those apps have consequences,
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especially the free ones, the free apps,
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as I've said all along since
all this technology started,
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if you're getting something from
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for free, you are the product.
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And, you know, they love
selling data and collecting data
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and, you know, targeting
you for advertisements.
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And, you know, I've become very intolerant
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of te uh, advertisements.
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And of course, I'm
probably going to be, uh,
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counter addicting myself,
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because I do do some things that, uh,
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are counterintuitive to
what I'm talking about.
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But what I'm talking about is, you know,
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what's the difference
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or what, uh, you know, what would be
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your thought about going
back to a, a dumb phone,
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or maybe not even carrying
a cell phone at all,
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but let's just assume you
need to have a cell phone
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so you can at least make phone
calls and receive phone calls
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and maybe text.
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Uh, you know, texts kind
of bother me sometimes too,
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when people kind of
use that in replacement
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of regular communications.
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You know, used to be, you could, uh,
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just pick up the phone and call it.
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And, you know, you
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and the other person on the other
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end didn't know who was calling.
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And that was good in some ways,
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and obviously bad in other ways'.
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There's a lot of scammers
and telemarketers,
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and anymore the telemarketers
are freaking lazy.
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They, they just have a bot do it.
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And, uh, you know, with AI coming on
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and all that, no matter, you know,
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who knows what's gonna
happen with the, uh,
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smartphones and all that.
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You know, I have a, an iPhone
15 Pro Max, whatever the,
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the, the latest greatest iPhone.
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And I do enjoy it.
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It has a wonderful camera, and,
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but I've just found it that
I'm very overconnected,
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I guess would be
be the way to, to put it.
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I, I, you know, I'm not too
worried about Google following
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me around and all that,
but, uh, I have decided
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that I'm gonna dego my, uh,
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existence on the internet at least.
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Uh, personally, of course,
uh, you know, we use a lot
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of Google for work.
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Um, you know, so I've gotta kinda do that.
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But I have it kind of
compartmentalized on my work computer.
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I have all the stuff that I need.
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I don't have it on my phone.
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And I, I do, you know, I,
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the only thing I have on my
phone that's Google related is,
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uh, YouTube and I, and
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because I have YouTube, I don't have
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to watch commercials other
than what's built into some
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of the YouTube channels.
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But, so that's, that's
one counter diction there.
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Yes, I'm still gonna be
watching YouTube now.
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I've tried Rumble and I like Rumble,
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but Rumble doesn't have the
variety of things that I like
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to watch that YouTube does.
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But anyway, get back to the
smartphone versus dumb phone
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versus de Googling and de
Facebooking and all that.
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Uh, I do have a Facebook,
I don't particularly, uh,
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post to it a whole lot.
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I use it, uh, mainly for work.
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And, you know, and usually
when I post something on
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Facebook, it's usually
something I think is funny.
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Anyway,
rest of you think that,
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but, uh, I, I don't, I
try not to use Facebook as
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a communications platform necessarily.
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or X, um, I'm more active on that,
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but I still don't post a heck
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I'm mostly lurking and reading and,
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and all that, which is
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Uh, and I, and I don't have either
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of those apps on my cell phone.
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Now. I have an iPad, uh,
an iPad mini that I do.
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I don't carry it around
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but when I'm home, I use that
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And, and, uh, I use it
for flying, you know,
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I got my electronic flight
bag on it and all the maps
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and, you know, that kind of stuff.
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But, uh, I don't carry it
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as big a deal as it is with a phone.
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Now, you know, of course your carrier has
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your location all the time,
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and probably nothing you can
do to block that, uh, you know,
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except for turning the whole thing off.
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dumb phones are that way.
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I was reading an article, uh, on the BBC
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and where is that?
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Ah, here it is. The, the
title of it is Not Smart,
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but Clever, the Return of Dumb Phones.
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And it seems to be a thing
with, uh, high school age
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or Gen ZI guess you would call that.
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Uh, you know, I don't
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generations all that well.
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I just know I'm a Gen X
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But, uh, you know, in here,
in the article, you know,
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you're talking about this, uh,
this girl in, in high school
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that she just has a dumb phone, you know,
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Nokia thirty three ten, which is,
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it's about 24 years old now.
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Although they, uh, do
have newer versions of it.
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So I'm sure there's a lot
of the tracking stuff.
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worried about the tracking
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as much, but the thing
is, is it's so easy,
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you know, when you get bored,
you pull out your phone
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and you look at something
and you pull out your phone
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and you look at something
else, you, you know, you scroll
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or, or, you know, we call, uh,
I call my, uh, iPad my, uh,
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toilet scroller,
know, sitting there instead
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of reading the newspaper or a magazine.
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Well, you got my iPad.
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So, like I said, I got
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but as far as my cell phone, I,
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I've dumbed it down a lot.
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I, I've taken off pretty
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quote unquote fun apps.
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You know, I don't have any games on it.
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I don't have, uh, you know,
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Uh, basically it's a telephone
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and a text device.
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You know, it's kind of a necessary evil.
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And I do have a browser on it,
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but I did go to the Brave Browser.
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Safari browser on iPhone
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or Chrome or any of those other ones,
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I figured that's good enough.
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I took all the mapping
programs off my phone,
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with the exception of Apple Maps.
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'cause you know, it is handy to be able
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to plug it into the truck and,
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and have the maps on the, on the screen.
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So that's, you know, that,
that's a compromise I'll take.
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And Apple seems to be better
at the privacy thing than a lot
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of other places, but maybe
not, uh, significantly.
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So you just never know.
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But, uh, they seem to be better at it.
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I can unlock it with my face.
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That's a convenience.
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But you think about that, if
you were to get pulled over
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by a police officer who
thinks you did something
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that you shouldn't have done,
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and they have your phone,
they can't unlock it.
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If you have face ID turned off, you know,
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otherwise, they just
hold it up to your face
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and get it to unlock.
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course, when you have face id,
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you still have a code.
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Uh, and I don't know
how it works on Android.
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I, uh, decided that, uh, Android is not
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what I'm gonna be doing
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phone if I wanted to.
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But, uh, I think, uh, I think
I'll stick with Apple just
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'cause they seem to last longer and,
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and they're reasonably good at privacy.
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But along that line, it's just, there's
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so many apps tracking.
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I got to the Brave Browser as
my only browser on the phone.
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So if I really wanna
look something up, I can,
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I have a couple banking apps
on there that, uh, just,
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just makes it really easy.
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So I, I do that.
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I, I have the airline apps on
there, or I put them on right
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before a trip, is what I usually do.
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'cause I don't always
fly the same airline.
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And that works out pretty well
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because you just, you know,
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you use it and then you get rid of it.
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You know, just having a whole
bunch of apps on your phone
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just makes it so you wanna
play with it more
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those devices will do.
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And, and I do see a use case for it.
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But, you know, I went to the restaurant,
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uh, with a buddy of mine.
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We, we do our Thursday night
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to solving the world's problem session.
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I got back from that a little while ago.
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This is Thursday night
when I'm recording this.
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And I just kinda looked around the place.
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We were just at a Chili's
and looked around the place,
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and there were people, you
know, couples there, you know,
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both looking at their phones instead
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of talking to each other.
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And, you know, I, I guess on
a, on, on one level, I think
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that's probably not good.
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I've dumbed down the phone
a little bit, uh, a phone
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that I was interested in.
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It's not either, it's,
it's not Apple, it's not,
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uh, Android.
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I'm sure it has some form
of Linux under the hood,
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but, uh, called the Light Phone.
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And it's at the light phone.com,
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and it has just the basic stuff on it.
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It has, uh, minimal, you
know, it's a minimal phone.
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It has an E Ink screen.
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Uh, it does not have social media.
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It does not have news.
It does not have email.
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It does not have, uh, a browser,
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but it does have some of the stuff
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that I would like to have.
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It, uh, does phone
calls, it does text, uh,
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does calendar alarm and podcasts.
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I don't know how well it does podcasts,
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but it also has Bluetooth.
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So you can play your podcasts through, uh,
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through your Bluetooth in
your car if you have that.
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And you can use it as a hotspot.
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So I was thinking, you know,
geez, I have a light phone
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and then an iPad,
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and, you know, so the iPad could be the,
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the one I do all the browsing and whatnot,
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and I don't always have
to bring that with me,
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but, you know, if I want to go light,
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I take the light phone.
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So, I don't know, I'm thinking about that.
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They're a little spendy and
I haven't seen one in person.
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But, uh, it looks like
quite the compromise
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between the smart and the dumb phone.
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And I'll have an article here
that I, uh, went through.
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I didn't do everything
in this article that, uh,
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they suggest, but it's, uh, how
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to turn Your iPhone into
a dumb phone,
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And, uh, it, uh, you
know, you could do it.
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That's the thing. And the,
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and the beauty of that is, is
if you ever wanna add an app
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for some reason, you
know, if you're traveling
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or whatever, you throw it
on there, you do your thing,
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you turn it off, um, you know, it's,
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and there's a lot of other,
you know, privacy stuff.
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But like I said, I'm not
that worried about privacy.
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I wanna avoid ads, and I
wanna avoid distractions.
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Uh, I find that it's a lot
nicer to take a drive, uh,
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and just not have to worry
about the phone ringing.
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'cause I, I don't answer
my phone when I'm driving.
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I, you know, unless I'm
on a really long trip.
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But if I'm just driving
around town, it'll wait,
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leave a voicemail, send me a
text, I'll read it when I stop.
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Or my, technically the
truck will read it to me
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or the, the, the, uh,
Siri lady in the, uh,
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But, uh, you know, most of the time
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that stuff's not an emergency, you know?
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And what did we do 20 years ago?
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And not everybody was
carrying around a phone
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or maybe 30 years ago, I
don't know, just getting old.
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But, uh, you know, I remember
traveling cross country.
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I didn't have a phone.
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I didn't have a GPS, you had a map
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or several maps, you know,
I used to go between here
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and Idaho, uh, you know,
uh, at least once a year.
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And I'd make that entire
trip with a map, a ham radio,
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and, uh, an am FM radio in the truck.
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I didn't even have cassettes or CDs.
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I mean, you know, CDs were around,
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but, uh, didn't have any
of that in the truck.
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I just had, uh, A MFM.
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And, uh, yeah, that was good enough.
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You know, you list to an AM
station at night, you know,
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you could listen to it for a long time
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and, you know, listen to talk radio
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or whatever, if you wanna
find some music there,
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it's all over the FM dial.
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The only thing is you had
to change the channel every
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so often when you run out of the station.
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Wasn't, uh, wasn't really a big deal.
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And I wasn't going too
far off the beaten trail,
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so it wasn't like I
needed to find, you know,
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some place out in the middle
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of the mountain somewhere,
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So I didn't need the GPS.
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The GPS didn't even exist at the time.
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And, you know, now we're spoiled,
you know, satellite radio
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and, and, uh, you know, streaming
stuff to our phones and,
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and podcasts and all that stuff.
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You know, I, I believe
me, I love podcasts.
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Uh, you know, I, I do
them. I, I listen to them.
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I, I do all that stuff,
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but I don't, uh, you know,
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I don't wanna be continually
inundated with news,
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and I don't, I don't need
to know all that stuff.
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If anything really big
happens, I'll figure it out.
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Uh, so I, you know, I'm still continuing.
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This is, I'm going on four years
here that I don't watch any
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of the national news.
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I read some of it. Uh, and,
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and another thing, you know, geez,
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I'm just going all over on
this tech stuff, you know,
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I said, I'm a geek, but man,
I'm telling you, it's, uh,
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it's getting to the point where,
uh, it, it's overwhelming.
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Uh, not that I don't know
what it does, and I don't,
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and I do understand its value,
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but I think we're, we're going down a path
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that's gonna really mess
us up, uh, in the future.
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You know, what happened? Like
today, uh, this morning at
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and t had a massive
outage almost nationwide,
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on their cellular network.
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And people were freaking out.
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Uh, you know, my sister calls me, uh,
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00:19:41,185 --> 00:19:42,685
or text me, actually,
394
00:19:42,745 --> 00:19:47,005
and she did it via wifi on,
uh, you know, on the ambulance.
395
00:19:47,005 --> 00:19:48,685
She goes, Hey, I don't
have any phone service,
396
00:19:48,905 --> 00:19:52,645
or no internet, whatever, you
know, then their wifi at home.
397
00:19:54,265 --> 00:19:57,725
And, you know, she was
just freaking out about it.
398
00:19:57,725 --> 00:19:59,565
She's like, what
happened? What's going on?
399
00:19:59,585 --> 00:20:01,925
You know, and all that.
Well, you know, I, you know,
400
00:20:02,025 --> 00:20:05,485
my theory is that it was a
couple of, uh, X-Class flares
401
00:20:05,485 --> 00:20:09,365
that came off the sun earlier,
uh, last night, I guess.
402
00:20:09,985 --> 00:20:12,965
But, uh, messed something up. Who knows?
403
00:20:13,145 --> 00:20:17,365
Uh, talking maybe even, uh,
cyber attacks or whatever.
404
00:20:17,505 --> 00:20:21,685
But, you know, people would
be lost without their phones.
405
00:20:21,865 --> 00:20:25,685
Now, you know, it's, I, I've
made it a habit of mine to, uh,
406
00:20:25,685 --> 00:20:28,805
every once in a while, just
leave the phone at home when I
407
00:20:28,805 --> 00:20:30,005
go out, you know, go out,
408
00:20:30,005 --> 00:20:31,405
run errands, I'll leave the phone at home.
409
00:20:32,195 --> 00:20:33,245
I've done that a few times.
410
00:20:33,585 --> 00:20:35,325
Not very often, but I've done it
411
00:20:36,145 --> 00:20:39,205
So, like I said, I'm a
little bit of an enigma.
412
00:20:39,405 --> 00:20:42,085
'cause I, I still, you know,
I love the tech that I love,
413
00:20:42,905 --> 00:20:45,845
but just everywhere is advertising and,
414
00:20:45,905 --> 00:20:47,965
and it's targeted advertising, you know,
415
00:20:47,965 --> 00:20:51,085
and you got these,
these, uh, speaker boxes
416
00:20:51,505 --> 00:20:54,125
and, uh, you know, I wanna say her name,
417
00:20:54,225 --> 00:20:57,565
but, uh, you know, the
Amazon Echo device, uh,
418
00:20:57,745 --> 00:20:58,885
you know, we've got 'em.
419
00:20:58,945 --> 00:21:01,405
And, you know, plus your
phone's listening to you.
420
00:21:01,405 --> 00:21:02,565
And if you have Facebook on your
421
00:21:02,565 --> 00:21:04,125
phone, Facebook's listening to you.
422
00:21:04,945 --> 00:21:07,925
Uh, I'm sure X is listening.
423
00:21:07,925 --> 00:21:09,605
Everybody that's selling ads
424
00:21:09,625 --> 00:21:13,165
and data are listening, you know,
425
00:21:13,985 --> 00:21:17,805
and, you know, I'm not
totally against ads, uh,
426
00:21:18,625 --> 00:21:21,325
but I like to avoid them as much as I can.
427
00:21:21,505 --> 00:21:24,725
Now, you know, podcasts that
I like, that have ads in 'em,
428
00:21:24,725 --> 00:21:26,205
I generally listen through the ads.
429
00:21:27,025 --> 00:21:30,445
Uh, if it's in a, in, you know,
if it's a way they can tell
430
00:21:30,445 --> 00:21:31,765
that I actually listen or not,
431
00:21:31,865 --> 00:21:33,925
but, uh, for the most part, they can't.
432
00:21:34,865 --> 00:21:37,245
Um, and I'll sometimes forward
433
00:21:37,245 --> 00:21:39,725
through 'em if I've heard the
ad 200 times or something.
434
00:21:39,905 --> 00:21:41,645
But, uh, you know,
435
00:21:41,645 --> 00:21:45,685
but if, if it's a podcast that
I'm thinking about, you know,
436
00:21:45,925 --> 00:21:48,125
subscribing to, or listening
to on a regular basis,
437
00:21:48,585 --> 00:21:50,565
if they overdo the ads, I'm out of there.
438
00:21:51,385 --> 00:21:53,245
You know, same thing
with YouTube channels.
439
00:21:53,265 --> 00:21:54,885
If I watch a YouTube channel
440
00:21:54,985 --> 00:21:57,685
and every 10 minutes the
host is doing a host read
441
00:21:57,685 --> 00:22:00,925
endorsement for something that
he's talking about on the,
442
00:22:01,185 --> 00:22:04,565
on the video, eh, probably
won't watch that much anymore.
443
00:22:05,425 --> 00:22:08,205
You know, they get paid pretty
good from YouTube for people
444
00:22:08,205 --> 00:22:11,685
that don't pay the, whatever
it is, 15 bucks a month,
445
00:22:11,745 --> 00:22:13,605
or, you know, they get YouTube premium.
446
00:22:14,385 --> 00:22:18,005
And I do that because, again,
I just don't want the ads,
447
00:22:18,945 --> 00:22:20,685
and I don't, you know, I don't need
448
00:22:20,685 --> 00:22:22,285
to be inundated with tracking.
449
00:22:23,265 --> 00:22:27,205
But, you know, famous famously,
to me, I guess
450
00:22:27,675 --> 00:22:29,445
there's nothing famous about this,
451
00:22:30,025 --> 00:22:32,845
but, uh, my wife
452
00:22:32,845 --> 00:22:35,365
and I, a few years ago, were
talking about getting the, uh,
453
00:22:35,635 --> 00:22:37,845
underground fence for our dogs.
454
00:22:39,085 --> 00:22:40,805
'cause, you know, we're
like, well, you know, they,
455
00:22:41,145 --> 00:22:43,005
the fence that we have,
we have a regular fence.
456
00:22:43,145 --> 00:22:47,045
And, and, you know, it's good
enough for most situations,
457
00:22:47,265 --> 00:22:49,925
but, you know, sometimes
the gate gets knocked open
458
00:22:50,025 --> 00:22:52,725
or left open or something,
and they could get out.
459
00:22:52,725 --> 00:22:54,045
And, you know, we live on a busy road
460
00:22:54,105 --> 00:22:56,365
and, you know, I, you know,
461
00:22:56,365 --> 00:22:58,165
just don't wanna be tracking down beagles.
462
00:22:59,145 --> 00:23:02,005
So, uh, we were talking about that,
463
00:23:02,185 --> 00:23:06,685
and I swear she got on her
computer, on her laptop, um,
464
00:23:06,715 --> 00:23:09,485
sitting in the easy chair
and went to Facebook.
465
00:23:10,105 --> 00:23:14,005
And then immediately there
were ads for underground fences
466
00:23:14,225 --> 00:23:18,565
and, uh, GPS dog collars
and all that sort of stuff.
467
00:23:18,585 --> 00:23:20,325
And I mean, it was like instantaneous.
468
00:23:20,625 --> 00:23:23,685
So I don't know whether
her phone was listening,
469
00:23:23,705 --> 00:23:26,645
or Facebook was listening,
or Google was listening,
470
00:23:26,785 --> 00:23:31,085
or the Amazon talking tube lady
was listening, I don't know.
471
00:23:32,225 --> 00:23:34,845
But, uh, you know, that
just kinda creeped me out.
472
00:23:34,905 --> 00:23:36,685
And it, and it happens a lot.
473
00:23:36,985 --> 00:23:39,645
And it, you know, you would,
you'd be amazed at the amount
474
00:23:39,645 --> 00:23:41,445
of data they have on
you if you're carrying
475
00:23:41,445 --> 00:23:46,325
around a smartphone, and probably
not avoidable completely,
476
00:23:46,945 --> 00:23:48,645
but you could mitigate some of it.
477
00:23:49,025 --> 00:23:50,365
Uh, and,
478
00:23:50,505 --> 00:23:54,005
and again, you know, back
to the attention span thing,
479
00:23:54,305 --> 00:23:57,645
you know, I, I made the
mistake one time of, uh,
480
00:23:57,955 --> 00:24:00,045
loading TikTok on, uh, on a phone,
481
00:24:00,945 --> 00:24:03,165
and it was like a time warp.
482
00:24:03,605 --> 00:24:06,605
I don't think I, I, I think I
was on that app for two hours
483
00:24:06,665 --> 00:24:07,885
and it felt like 10 minutes.
484
00:24:08,945 --> 00:24:13,165
And so they really got
that algo dialed in to,
485
00:24:13,265 --> 00:24:14,805
uh, keep your attention.
486
00:24:14,945 --> 00:24:16,285
You know, same thing with Facebook.
487
00:24:16,305 --> 00:24:19,165
You know, the, you scroll down Facebook
488
00:24:19,345 --> 00:24:20,485
and your timeline there,
489
00:24:20,665 --> 00:24:24,405
and they'll always be some
sensational clickbait thing that,
490
00:24:24,405 --> 00:24:25,685
oh, I wanna check this out.
491
00:24:25,745 --> 00:24:28,205
And then before you know it,
you've wasted a whole bunch
492
00:24:28,205 --> 00:24:30,525
of time for a whole bunch of nothing.
493
00:24:31,705 --> 00:24:35,885
And one of the things that
I, I find also interesting
494
00:24:36,595 --> 00:24:40,605
that most people probably
don't even know about anymore,
495
00:24:41,225 --> 00:24:44,525
but it used to be really popular
in the early two thousands,
496
00:24:45,385 --> 00:24:47,285
was, uh, feed readers.
497
00:24:48,185 --> 00:24:51,205
So, you know, this same
thing that gets you this, uh,
498
00:24:51,235 --> 00:24:56,165
this podcast RSS can also get
you written, written stuff,
499
00:24:56,985 --> 00:25:00,565
uh, blog posts or news or whatever.
500
00:25:01,305 --> 00:25:06,165
And I recently downloaded an
app on my iPad, not my iPhone,
501
00:25:06,385 --> 00:25:09,845
but my iPad, and let me look it up.
502
00:25:11,225 --> 00:25:12,805
Uh, I forget what it's called,
503
00:25:13,265 --> 00:25:15,325
but it's an, uh, open source,
504
00:25:17,095 --> 00:25:19,235
uh, feed reader.
505
00:25:20,015 --> 00:25:21,795
And what is it called?
506
00:25:22,985 --> 00:25:27,795
Well, that's just embarrassing,
eh, in my news folder.
507
00:25:28,205 --> 00:25:30,715
Might be. Yeah, that's where it is.
508
00:25:31,025 --> 00:25:34,035
It's called News Net News Wire.
509
00:25:35,415 --> 00:25:37,795
And believe it or not, there's a whole lot
510
00:25:37,815 --> 00:25:41,435
of stuff out there that is,
that has RSS feed, just look
511
00:25:41,435 --> 00:25:44,555
for the little RSS logo
on, uh, on websites
512
00:25:45,015 --> 00:25:46,715
or even email newsletters.
513
00:25:47,455 --> 00:25:51,475
We have a couple of local
newsletters, the Traverse ticker
514
00:25:51,495 --> 00:25:53,995
and the, uh, le ticker,
515
00:25:53,995 --> 00:25:55,875
and it's a daily newsletter, you know,
516
00:25:55,875 --> 00:25:58,355
just stuff going on in the area, you know,
517
00:25:58,355 --> 00:26:00,395
and it's not a political thing,
518
00:26:00,455 --> 00:26:01,995
and it's not a, you know,
519
00:26:01,995 --> 00:26:03,955
controversial thing most of the time.
520
00:26:04,015 --> 00:26:05,475
It just tells you, you know, kind
521
00:26:05,475 --> 00:26:07,835
of what's going on in the area.
522
00:26:08,095 --> 00:26:10,075
And they have RSS,
523
00:26:10,335 --> 00:26:14,275
and the, the link was
right in the, you know,
524
00:26:14,315 --> 00:26:15,315
right in the newsletter.
525
00:26:15,595 --> 00:26:18,235
I opened up the newsletter
and I saw that RSS link.
526
00:26:18,275 --> 00:26:19,515
I said, oh, let's check this out.
527
00:26:19,575 --> 00:26:22,395
And then I got to looking at feed readers
528
00:26:22,495 --> 00:26:25,475
and found that Net Newswire,
it's pretty darn good.
529
00:26:26,935 --> 00:26:29,195
So, you know, you might think
of that instead of, you know,
530
00:26:29,195 --> 00:26:31,755
going to Facebook or Twitter or,
531
00:26:32,215 --> 00:26:36,235
or X whatever to get your news, uh,
532
00:26:36,455 --> 00:26:39,875
or, you know, go, God forbid,
the, uh, network news sites
533
00:26:39,975 --> 00:26:41,235
or the cable news sites.
534
00:26:42,025 --> 00:26:44,565
It's a, you know, barren
wasteland of garbage
535
00:26:45,615 --> 00:26:47,205
scare, scare, scare.
536
00:26:48,545 --> 00:26:51,485
But, uh, you know, if you find some blog
537
00:26:51,545 --> 00:26:54,805
or reasonable news source,
oh, get the hiccups,
538
00:26:55,255 --> 00:26:58,565
reasonable news source
that you can subscribe
539
00:26:58,585 --> 00:27:00,485
to via an RSS feed.
540
00:27:01,755 --> 00:27:04,925
Well, there you go. There's
your decentralized news.
541
00:27:04,995 --> 00:27:06,925
Just like, you know, what you're listening
542
00:27:06,925 --> 00:27:08,725
to now is decentralized media.
543
00:27:09,745 --> 00:27:12,085
Uh, you know, I don't do this show as much
544
00:27:12,085 --> 00:27:15,565
as I thought I would, but
I still keep it alive.
545
00:27:15,665 --> 00:27:17,685
So I appreciate you guys for hanging out.
546
00:27:18,545 --> 00:27:22,005
But, uh, you know, this will be here.
547
00:27:22,505 --> 00:27:25,005
Uh, this podcast will be here,
548
00:27:25,065 --> 00:27:27,325
or it'll be somewhere that
you'll be able to find,
549
00:27:28,035 --> 00:27:32,805
because it's not controlled
by Apple, it's not controlled
550
00:27:33,145 --> 00:27:37,325
by Facebook, it's not
controlled by Spotify
551
00:27:37,445 --> 00:27:40,285
I hate them too. Although
I love their music service.
552
00:27:40,525 --> 00:27:41,965
I know I'm a, I'm a bunch
553
00:27:41,965 --> 00:27:44,965
of enigmas wrapped in a confused mess.
554
00:27:45,105 --> 00:27:46,725
But, uh, you know, Spotify,
555
00:27:46,905 --> 00:27:47,965
if they'd just stay in their
556
00:27:47,965 --> 00:27:49,165
lane, would've done pretty good.
557
00:27:49,265 --> 00:27:50,725
You know, they're a music service.
558
00:27:50,725 --> 00:27:52,445
They're not a podcast service, and,
559
00:27:52,705 --> 00:27:54,445
and they spend a billion dollars trying
560
00:27:54,445 --> 00:27:55,605
to get into podcasting.
561
00:27:55,705 --> 00:27:58,205
And, you know, to some,
they seem successful.
562
00:27:58,345 --> 00:28:03,285
But again, you know, how many
people do you personally know
563
00:28:03,515 --> 00:28:05,685
that listen to their podcasts on Spotify?
564
00:28:06,985 --> 00:28:09,205
Uh, probably not that many.
565
00:28:10,185 --> 00:28:11,645
Or maybe you're one of those people
566
00:28:11,645 --> 00:28:14,045
that don't have very many people
that you know, that listen
567
00:28:14,045 --> 00:28:15,365
to podcasts at all.
568
00:28:16,465 --> 00:28:20,685
But, you know, I, I just,
again, go back to, uh, you know,
569
00:28:20,685 --> 00:28:22,125
keeping things free and open.
570
00:28:22,985 --> 00:28:25,565
Uh, you know, podcasting is still it.
571
00:28:25,865 --> 00:28:30,805
Uh, you know, if, if Apple
and Spotify and iHeart
572
00:28:30,985 --> 00:28:34,405
and, you know, all these big company,
573
00:28:34,705 --> 00:28:36,965
big tech companies decide they don't like
574
00:28:36,965 --> 00:28:39,285
what I'm talking about, and
they take me outta their app,
575
00:28:40,295 --> 00:28:41,505
well, I'm still here.
576
00:28:42,425 --> 00:28:46,445
And if you get a modern podcast
app over@podcastapps.com,
577
00:28:47,225 --> 00:28:49,245
you can, uh, you know,
you'll still get it.
578
00:28:49,365 --> 00:28:51,005
RSS will still continue to work,
579
00:28:52,065 --> 00:28:53,405
you know, one way at the other.
580
00:28:53,475 --> 00:28:54,525
I'll make sure it works.
581
00:28:55,105 --> 00:28:57,925
And, and that's, you know,
582
00:28:59,145 --> 00:29:00,525
that's the good thing about it.
583
00:29:00,545 --> 00:29:03,405
But, you know, just simplifying as much
584
00:29:03,425 --> 00:29:05,925
as possible on your phone is, you know,
585
00:29:05,925 --> 00:29:07,405
help you in the both of those ways.
586
00:29:08,305 --> 00:29:12,165
Uh, you know, whether
attention span or distraction
587
00:29:12,265 --> 00:29:13,885
or waste of time or,
588
00:29:14,625 --> 00:29:17,165
or, uh, you know, just, I mean,
589
00:29:17,165 --> 00:29:19,405
people are having neck problems these days
590
00:29:19,405 --> 00:29:21,605
because they're always
staring down at a screen.
591
00:29:22,545 --> 00:29:25,165
You know, I remember I
used to be able to watch TV
592
00:29:25,265 --> 00:29:26,845
and just actually watch tv.
593
00:29:27,875 --> 00:29:29,005
Well, now you can't do that
594
00:29:29,405 --> 00:29:32,525
'cause you got six minutes of
commercials every 10 minutes.
595
00:29:33,545 --> 00:29:35,445
Uh, or, you know, maybe not that much,
596
00:29:35,465 --> 00:29:36,925
but it seems that way sometime.
597
00:29:37,315 --> 00:29:40,845
Even the streamers now are
doing that, you know, if, uh,
598
00:29:41,315 --> 00:29:44,845
like Netflix is even talking
about throwing ads in there
599
00:29:45,745 --> 00:29:47,085
unless you pay 'em extra.
600
00:29:48,025 --> 00:29:50,725
Uh, so all those shows, and,
601
00:29:50,725 --> 00:29:51,965
and, you know, you can't even forward
602
00:29:51,965 --> 00:29:53,645
through the ads on the streamers.
603
00:29:54,385 --> 00:29:57,045
Uh, the only, you know, we,
we have a couple of 'em.
604
00:29:57,045 --> 00:29:58,965
We have Netflix. My, my wife likes
605
00:29:58,965 --> 00:30:02,045
that we have Apple TV only
'cause I bought this new iPad
606
00:30:02,145 --> 00:30:04,125
and we got, uh, a month free.
607
00:30:04,805 --> 00:30:06,805
I don't know if we're
gonna continue to use it.
608
00:30:07,325 --> 00:30:09,685
I have Amazon Prime mainly
for the free shipping,
609
00:30:10,745 --> 00:30:13,365
but, uh, you know, there
is some prime video that's,
610
00:30:13,515 --> 00:30:14,525
that is interesting.
611
00:30:15,065 --> 00:30:19,325
But I pretty rarely
watch any over the air tv
612
00:30:20,705 --> 00:30:23,115
and that simplifies it.
613
00:30:23,115 --> 00:30:25,995
You know, I have a, a, an
antenna now, I don't have cable.
614
00:30:27,155 --> 00:30:31,315
I have, uh, you know, I
have way more stuff to watch
615
00:30:32,095 --> 00:30:35,035
on the internet, uh,
through the Apple TV or the,
616
00:30:35,815 --> 00:30:38,475
or in this case, in my
office here, I've got a, uh,
617
00:30:38,615 --> 00:30:39,715
Amazon Fire Stick.
618
00:30:40,655 --> 00:30:43,835
But, uh, you know, I can
watch all kinds of stuff,
619
00:30:43,905 --> 00:30:44,915
even live stuff.
620
00:30:45,215 --> 00:30:48,355
Uh, you know, there's lots of live feeds
621
00:30:48,355 --> 00:30:49,875
that you can listen to or watch.
622
00:30:51,055 --> 00:30:53,235
And so there's a lot
of stuff to listen to.
623
00:30:54,135 --> 00:30:56,555
And, you know, kind of
when I was, you know,
624
00:30:56,555 --> 00:30:59,315
when I was younger and we
didn't have all this internet
625
00:30:59,315 --> 00:31:01,475
stuff, I did a lot of shortwave listening.
626
00:31:02,615 --> 00:31:05,115
And now a lot of that has
all gone to the internet.
627
00:31:05,175 --> 00:31:07,035
You know, the BBC World Service,
628
00:31:07,515 --> 00:31:10,115
I think still transmits on a few towers,
629
00:31:10,175 --> 00:31:14,755
but for the most part, they're,
uh, an internet service.
630
00:31:14,935 --> 00:31:15,955
The Voice of America.
631
00:31:16,295 --> 00:31:20,795
Uh, I know for a fact
they got, uh, 500, so 500
632
00:31:20,855 --> 00:31:24,915
or so, so shows that formerly were, uh,
633
00:31:25,065 --> 00:31:26,795
transmitted on shortwave.
634
00:31:26,815 --> 00:31:29,955
Now they're, they do still
transmit on shortwave
635
00:31:29,955 --> 00:31:32,355
around the world and, and all that.
636
00:31:32,815 --> 00:31:35,195
But that's what we listened
to back in the day.
637
00:31:35,575 --> 00:31:37,275
Or we would watch, you know, TV
638
00:31:37,415 --> 00:31:41,995
and back then, you know, tv,
you went to the, uh, you went
639
00:31:41,995 --> 00:31:45,555
to MTV, that was music, music television.
640
00:31:45,555 --> 00:31:48,515
You go to CMTV, it was
country Music Television.
641
00:31:49,335 --> 00:31:51,555
Uh, you go to the Discovery Channel
642
00:31:51,615 --> 00:31:53,115
and you actually discovered things.
643
00:31:53,415 --> 00:31:54,755
Uh, you went to History Channel
644
00:31:54,855 --> 00:31:56,675
and they talked about history.
645
00:31:56,825 --> 00:32:00,195
Imagine that, or the Weather
Channel even now, uh,
646
00:32:00,505 --> 00:32:04,195
it's mostly reality
shows and, and all that.
647
00:32:04,195 --> 00:32:05,595
And very little weather, you know,
648
00:32:05,595 --> 00:32:07,995
you get the little scroller
around the side of the screen.
649
00:32:08,135 --> 00:32:10,395
But, uh, that's it for weather, you know,
650
00:32:10,395 --> 00:32:11,475
it's not like it used to be.
651
00:32:12,575 --> 00:32:15,715
And, you know, everybody's kind
of going to the same model,
652
00:32:15,895 --> 00:32:18,795
and, and I'm just tired of it, you know,
653
00:32:18,815 --> 00:32:19,835
and, you know, back
654
00:32:19,835 --> 00:32:22,795
to the dumb phone versus
smartphone thing, it's like,
655
00:32:22,935 --> 00:32:26,115
you know, I would love at
some point in the future to,
656
00:32:26,175 --> 00:32:28,515
to just, just have like a light phone
657
00:32:28,575 --> 00:32:31,675
or something similar to that,
or a dumbed down iPhone.
658
00:32:32,295 --> 00:32:33,515
You know, the only thing I have
659
00:32:33,515 --> 00:32:36,195
to have really on a phone is podcasts.
660
00:32:37,255 --> 00:32:39,805
And I could probably get
away with not doing that
661
00:32:39,945 --> 00:32:41,445
and go back to the old way
662
00:32:41,445 --> 00:32:46,365
of putting it on a portable
device, an iPod type device,
663
00:32:46,475 --> 00:32:48,925
even though they don't
really make a iPod anymore.
664
00:32:49,945 --> 00:32:52,725
Uh, but, uh, you know, something like
665
00:32:52,725 --> 00:32:56,645
that I'm sure still exists
that, uh, if you really wanted
666
00:32:56,645 --> 00:33:00,925
to, you could go completely
off the grid and, and do that.
667
00:33:01,105 --> 00:33:04,405
And
watching a lot of off grid, uh,
668
00:33:04,475 --> 00:33:06,005
YouTube channels as well.
669
00:33:06,825 --> 00:33:10,885
Uh, a lot of, a lot of people
are, are getting into that.
670
00:33:11,545 --> 00:33:15,765
And, uh, you know, it's, it is
interesting how much you can
671
00:33:16,505 --> 00:33:19,645
do without a lot of the tech.
672
00:33:20,305 --> 00:33:21,685
Now, you know, a lot of 'em are, you know,
673
00:33:21,795 --> 00:33:23,245
obviously I'm watching a YouTube
674
00:33:23,245 --> 00:33:24,605
channel, so they're into tech.
675
00:33:25,465 --> 00:33:28,125
But you know, this one
guy in West Virginia
676
00:33:28,125 --> 00:33:30,245
that I've been watching, uh, you know,
677
00:33:30,245 --> 00:33:31,805
he's got a solar set up,
678
00:33:31,825 --> 00:33:33,765
and of course he's got
a portable generator,
679
00:33:34,865 --> 00:33:36,525
and he works from home.
680
00:33:36,525 --> 00:33:37,525
He has his own business.
681
00:33:37,665 --> 00:33:41,125
So, you know, he, he makes
products and sends them out,
682
00:33:41,125 --> 00:33:42,765
or has them made and sends them out.
683
00:33:42,865 --> 00:33:46,005
So, plus he's doing pretty good
on YouTube. I, I understand.
684
00:33:46,865 --> 00:33:49,845
So he's got quite the
lifestyle where he doesn't have
685
00:33:50,885 --> 00:33:52,525
a television necessarily.
686
00:33:52,875 --> 00:33:54,565
He's got, well, he does have a tv,
687
00:33:54,665 --> 00:33:57,645
but I don't think it's hooked
up to anything that would get
688
00:33:57,715 --> 00:33:59,485
outside stuff other than internet.
689
00:34:00,145 --> 00:34:02,685
And he does have a, you
know, starlink internet.
690
00:34:02,745 --> 00:34:03,965
So, you know, he is tech,
691
00:34:04,705 --> 00:34:08,635
but it's a much simpler existence.
692
00:34:09,695 --> 00:34:12,355
And I don't know if I'm
ready quite for that.
693
00:34:12,675 --> 00:34:16,915
I don't feel like chopping wood
and, and, uh, raising ducks
694
00:34:16,935 --> 00:34:18,275
and geese and,
695
00:34:19,815 --> 00:34:23,315
and, uh, whatever, raising
my own food or whatnot.
696
00:34:23,675 --> 00:34:26,195
Probably not a bad idea,
but, uh, I really can't do it
697
00:34:26,195 --> 00:34:27,395
where I am and I don't feel like moving.
698
00:34:27,575 --> 00:34:32,155
So,
Come on, I wasn't lazy.
699
00:34:32,205 --> 00:34:33,555
You'd get episode of this,
700
00:34:33,745 --> 00:34:37,275
this podcast more often, figure that out.
701
00:34:37,305 --> 00:34:39,475
Some of the new things we're,
uh, doing at Blueberry.
702
00:34:39,475 --> 00:34:44,275
You'll notice, hopefully if it
all works, uh, on my website,
703
00:34:44,335 --> 00:34:46,995
the new player there, uh, has chapters
704
00:34:47,375 --> 00:34:51,515
and, uh, I generate that via, uh,
705
00:34:51,975 --> 00:34:54,715
AI thing on blueberry that we're testing.
706
00:34:55,695 --> 00:34:58,755
So I generate those
chapter files that way.
707
00:34:58,975 --> 00:35:01,275
So there'll be little spots in the player
708
00:35:01,375 --> 00:35:03,555
or apps that you, you know, if you get one
709
00:35:03,555 --> 00:35:06,795
of those new apps
over@podcastapps.com
710
00:35:07,455 --> 00:35:09,795
and look for one that, uh, does chapters,
711
00:35:10,215 --> 00:35:12,435
and you could jump
around, of course, I jump
712
00:35:12,435 --> 00:35:13,515
around, uh, for you.
713
00:35:13,615 --> 00:35:15,475
So you probably don't
need it on this show,
714
00:35:15,575 --> 00:35:18,075
but, you know, you'll
notice that some, a lot
715
00:35:18,075 --> 00:35:19,315
of other shows are doing that.
716
00:35:19,665 --> 00:35:20,995
Same thing with transcripts.
717
00:35:21,615 --> 00:35:24,875
Uh, I've been putting transcripts
on these here, you know,
718
00:35:24,935 --> 00:35:28,155
the last, I don't know,
probably a couple years.
719
00:35:29,255 --> 00:35:32,595
And now Apple is even going
720
00:35:32,595 --> 00:35:34,475
to start pulling in transcripts
721
00:35:34,615 --> 00:35:37,525
or creating one for you if
you don't do it yourself.
722
00:35:37,585 --> 00:35:40,445
The one, the only problem with
that is it's only on Apple.
723
00:35:41,065 --> 00:35:45,485
If you do it through, uh,
through one of these new apps,
724
00:35:45,865 --> 00:35:47,205
uh, it's everywhere.
725
00:35:47,825 --> 00:35:50,205
And that's, you know, that's a good thing.
726
00:35:50,245 --> 00:35:53,605
I, I don't, you know, a lot of
people are hearing impaired,
727
00:35:54,005 --> 00:35:56,245
probably don't listen to podcasts
728
00:35:56,305 --> 00:35:59,005
or consume podcasts in most ways,
729
00:35:59,185 --> 00:36:00,885
but they do now have that option.
730
00:36:01,945 --> 00:36:03,605
Uh, you could read it.
731
00:36:03,965 --> 00:36:05,405
I don't know if I'd wanna read this one,
732
00:36:06,145 --> 00:36:07,405
but it could be interesting.
733
00:36:07,685 --> 00:36:09,245
I dunno if you hear the jet taking off,
734
00:36:09,305 --> 00:36:13,565
but, uh, away he goes, remember,
735
00:36:13,585 --> 00:36:14,725
I'm close to the airport.
736
00:36:15,945 --> 00:36:18,405
So anyway, I guess I've
rambled on long enough
737
00:36:18,505 --> 00:36:21,285
and, uh, jumped subjects
four or five, six times.
738
00:36:22,585 --> 00:36:24,685
But yeah, that's why you listen to me.
739
00:36:25,905 --> 00:36:28,045
So with that, everybody have a good,
740
00:36:28,315 --> 00:36:30,165
however long it is, till the next one.
741
00:36:30,945 --> 00:36:34,325
And, uh, if you wanna hear me
on a more regular basis, uh,
742
00:36:34,325 --> 00:36:36,685
auto history podcast.com,
743
00:36:37,145 --> 00:36:40,285
that's the Auto History
podcast in video and audio.
744
00:36:41,345 --> 00:36:44,325
And, uh, that's with my
co-host Mike Wilkerson from the
745
00:36:44,325 --> 00:36:45,445
Two Guys Talking Network.
746
00:36:46,265 --> 00:36:47,765
And, uh, we're committed
747
00:36:47,765 --> 00:36:50,365
to doing two episodes
a month, uh, for now.
748
00:36:50,655 --> 00:36:53,445
We'll probably kick that up
at some point in the future.
749
00:36:54,505 --> 00:36:56,245
And of course, you can hear me on Podcast
750
00:36:56,835 --> 00:36:59,325
Insider at least three
outta four weeks a month.
751
00:37:00,145 --> 00:37:02,085
Uh, we switch up the host.
752
00:37:02,305 --> 00:37:04,605
So it's, uh, I'm usually on three of 'em.
753
00:37:04,945 --> 00:37:08,725
Todd's on three of 'em, and
McKenzie is on three of 'em.
754
00:37:08,725 --> 00:37:11,685
And however that works out,
uh,
755
00:37:12,345 --> 00:37:15,045
But, uh, podcast insider.com
756
00:37:15,945 --> 00:37:20,485
and, uh, that, uh, that one
does come out every single week.
757
00:37:20,945 --> 00:37:25,045
If you're interested in podcasting
on the, uh, business side
758
00:37:25,045 --> 00:37:28,765
or creator side, uh, that's
a good one to listen to.
759
00:37:30,275 --> 00:37:34,535
And I'll have a few links in
the, uh, show notes here just
760
00:37:34,595 --> 00:37:36,935
to, uh, you know, talk about stuff.
761
00:37:36,975 --> 00:37:39,935
I talked about the article
from BBC, the light phone,
762
00:37:40,955 --> 00:37:44,135
and, uh, turning Your
iPhone into a dumb phone.
763
00:37:45,675 --> 00:37:48,655
So with that, catch me later.
764
00:37:51,035 --> 00:37:51,155
I.