Podcast Index and Podcasting 2.0 – MDW379 – #napodpomo21

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Mike Dell's world number
three eight for the

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16th of November, 2021. And it's, uh,

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APOD Pomo 21.

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I think it's.

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Ah, there it is. And there it
is. Good morning. Good evening.

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Good afternoon. Whatever the case may
be for you wherever you're listening.

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I'm Mike, and this is Mike
Dell's world. Today is Tuesday,

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which on my schedule for
national podcast posting month

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means it's a traverse city episode.
And I guess I'm gonna answer the

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question I get asked,
especially this time of year.

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I get asked this question a lot.
Why do you live in traverse city?

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And I, you know, I could suppose
I could give the easy answer. Um,

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well, you know, I grew up here.
A lot of my family is here,

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that kind of stuff. Uh, and
that's true. Definitely. You know,

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it's cool that my folks are still here.

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I got a 94 year old grandmother that
lives about a mile from me and

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she's still, uh, kicking and living on
her own and, and all that good stuff.

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And, uh, you know, we get
together somewhat frequently,

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although it's kind of strange, you know,
I, I don't see my parents as you know,

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I see 'em at least once a week, but, uh,
you know, a whole lot more than that.

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They're about 10 miles away, but that's
not a big deal. It's just the fact that,

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you know, I grew up here, but
that's not even it, uh, you know,

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the job isn't keeping me here anymore.
Uh, I could pretty much live anywhere.

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I have an internet connection in a, uh,
phone line or not even a phone line,

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just an internet connection
and a, uh, cell phone,

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or maybe just an internet
connection. But, uh, you know,

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I could live pretty much wherever I want.
My wife is, uh, retired, so, you know,

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that's a thing. So she doesn't,
she doesn't work outside the home.

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Uh, you know, she does some,
some small things here and there,

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but she could do that
anywhere. And, you know,

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so we're not bound here by that. Uh,

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you know, there's certainly better
weather spots. Uh, you know,

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although there's nothing nicer than a
summer day in Michigan where even a fall

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day in Northern Michigan,
uh, but you know,

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the winters can be a little rough.

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And I think that's some
of the charm that I,

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you know, being that I grew up here,
I'm kind of used to that. Although,

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you know, I've lived other places I've
lived in Florida, I've lived in Idaho,

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lived in Iceland. I spent a lot of
time in a lot of other places. Uh,

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you know, the, the, weather's not
really a big motivator for me, although,

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you know, I, I do sort of
dread the long winters. Uh,

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although I look forward
to it this time of year,

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because everything seems to slow down
right after the holidays and this I'm sure

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happens everywhere, but more so up
here, you know, after the holidays,

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things just sort of mellow, you know,

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we're just waiting for the blizzard
and removing snow and, uh, you know,

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just staying warm and,
uh, staying happy. And,

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and there's something to be
said for, you know, that,

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that natural slowdown that
we get every year, you know,

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the cavemen and the, you
know, the humans before, uh,

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civilization really took hold, you
know, they, they, they had that thing,

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you know, they'd spend
all summer and, you know,

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spring summer and part
of the fall, you know,

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getting ready for the long
winter. And, you know, there's,

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there's something to be
said for that, uh, you know,

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a chance to sort of wind down now, you
know, the way things work nowadays, uh,

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you know, we got artificial lights
and, and heat and, uh, you know,

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electricity and communicate worldwide
communications. I mean, you, you know,

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who knows you,

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you could be sitting in Antarctica
listening to me or in Iceland or,

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or, you know,

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somewhere in Africa or somewhere in Europe
or somewhere in Canada and, you know,

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hello to the Canadians
over the border. But, uh,

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you know, it doesn't have, you,

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you don't have to be right here for me
to be able to communicate with you, uh,

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either one way like this in a podcast
or two way, uh, you know, via zoom or,

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you know, Facebook chat, whatever. I mean,

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there's a hundred ways we can stay
in communications now, you know,

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as in Iceland, I felt pretty
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phone call was, you know, buck
and a quarter a minute and, uh,

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and the time difference and, uh, and
all that. So we didn't do a lot of that.

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Uh, I did have television stations, uh,

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some from Europe and some, uh,
you know, they piped in like, uh,

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the morning shows, uh, today show. I
remember we used to get that about noon.

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The tonight show would come out at about
seven in the morning, uh, you know,

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and, and a few other, you
know, national shows like that.

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And of course when big
football games were happening,

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that they show that on armed forces
television, and, you know, so it was,

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you know, you weren't completely
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that way, no pun intended,
but, you know, we used to get,

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uh, we had an airplane that would come
in on, uh, Wednesdays, and it was,

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uh, it was a DC eight combi those
years that are into airplanes

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as I am, but it was a DCA
com, which meant that, uh,

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the front half of the passenger
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people and it was a, we called
it the tater or the rotator.

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And basically when you got
stationed up there, uh,

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you would come in on a Wednesday and
then those that were leaving would leave,

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you know, later that day on Wednesday, uh,

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it would land about seven in the
morning and take off about, uh,

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10 at night or something like that cuz
the time difference, whatever. But, uh,

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and by, by the way, it
was Hawaiian airlines,

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which was kind of ironic
going to Iceland, but, uh,

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they had the contract at the time,

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but the front half of the
airplane was all the mail and uh,

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other supplies that didn't come
in, you know, normal, you know,

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military supplies and what they didn't
buy local, but you know, we would get,

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uh, the mail would come in on Wednesday.
So Wednesday everybody would be,

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you know, crowding the post office.
And as they were sorting the mail,

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I used to volunteer to
sort mail and it was great.

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And we got new magazines and I mean,
magazines were like a lifeline up there.

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It was, uh, it was amazing, you
know, a magazine was, was like gold,

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you get done reading a magazine and you
put it out in the day room and it was

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gone. And there was a big box
in the, uh, post office too,

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where all the magazines
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say somebody had a subscription
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they didn't forward
those to, uh, APO boxes.

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Uh, what was it, what is APO stand
for? I don't remember. But, uh, anyway,

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the military post office wouldn't
forward magazine subscriptions,

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so they would just throw all the magazines
in a box and, you know, come one,

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you know, first come first serve. And
you know, we used tear that up and uh,

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you know,

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of course we had a pretty good library
and we'd spend a lot of time reading and

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you know, that was what
you had to do up there.

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There was no internet at the time or at
least no internet that we had anything

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to do with. And, uh, like I said,

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couldn't really afford to do a lot of
phone calling and, and, and that, but

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anyway, this is more about traverse
city, but uh, you know, traverse city,

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we're kind of, you know, we're not
isolated by any stretch, but you know,

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it is one of the few places on the planet.

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That's a good 35, 40 miles
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Uh, you know,

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we don't have interstate the nearest
interstate's 50 or 60 miles away.

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And, you know, I always tell people
when they are in traverse city,

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if you find yourself in traverse city,

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you either meant to come here or
you're lost because it's not on the

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way to anything really. I mean,
Leland county, I guess. But, uh, and,

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and that's, you know, I
consider that the same area,

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cuz it's on the grand traverses
bay, but uh, you know, there's,

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we're kind of the end of the road,
uh, at least in lower Michigan.

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And so, you know, it's not like a
big transitory area where, you know,

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a lot of people are
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other places I've lived when
I lived in, I Idaho, you know,

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we had interstate 84, it was the main, uh,

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highway between salt lake city and uh,

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Seattle or Portland or somewhere
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And you know, there was these
people passing through and, uh,

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it was a whole different vibe. You know,
same thing when I lived in Florida,

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you know, I was 10 miles off
of I 10 and uh, you know,

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that's the main drag across the Southern
United States. And plus it was, uh,

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near highway 98, which was, you know,
the main highway along the Gulf coast.

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And, and you know, there,

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there's just a lot of people passing
through and you just don't get that in

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traverse city very often. It's,

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it's not a normal route that anyone
would take to get elsewhere. It's just,

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you know, they tend to come here and
I kinda like that about this place.

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You know, we get a lot of tourists
and there's nothing wrong with that.

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A lot of visitors, a lot of snowbirds, uh,

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snowbirds are an
interesting bunch, you know,

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they live here when the weather's
good and then take off when it's cold.

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And I can certainly see the,
the wisdom in that. And, uh,

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it may be something I do in
the future. I don't know,

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although I don't know where I'd want
to go. Uh, not a huge fan of Florida,

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uh, weather wise, uh, although
it's growing on me a little bit,

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uh, when I lived there, it was okay. And,

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and I've got family in south Florida
and it's always good down to go down and

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visit, but you know, some of the touristy
areas in Florida are just unreal.

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They're worse than, uh, than up here
in the summer. Orlando. Geez.

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You know, you know, don't
dislike Orlando, but I,

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I certainly wouldn't want to live
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or even part of the year, you know, I'd
pick someplace out in the boonies, uh,

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you know, maybe in Texas, you know,
same thing. I'm not a huge fan of,

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of Texas in general, but you know,
there's some nice spots and all that. Uh,

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but it's just too doggone hot
down there. Uh, a lot of the year,

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same with Florida, but we get just
as warm as Florida in the summer, uh,

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up here. So, you know, it's not really,
like I said, I'm not really weather, uh,

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motivated like some,
some of the snowbirds,

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like I said, the tourists
we get up here general are,

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are nice enough people it's, haven't
really met too many rude people. That's a,

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that's another thing about
this area Northern Michigan
in general traverse city,

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you know, is a little bit more
metropolitan compared to, you know, say,

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uh, you know, gay or,

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and Gaylord has a lot of pass through
cuz they're on I 75. Uh, but you know,

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the whole Northern part of lower
Michigan and pretty much the entire up

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of Michigan are, you know,

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some pretty Hardy people and they're all
pretty friendly. Uh, for the most part,

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you know, there's grumpy,
grouches everywhere.

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And the crime rate here in traverse
city is probably a little bit less

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than the crime rate, you know,
of a comparable size city,

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closer to an interstate.
Um, you know, we got,

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we've got our, you know, we've
got our problems up here. Uh,

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we don't get nearly as many homeless up
here because it's too darn cold. I mean,

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we, there is some homeless and there's
some good organizations around here that,

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uh, are trying to take care of
them. We do have, you know, one,

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one area that I know of that, uh, is
kind of a tent city, uh, and you know,

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I feel bad for the folks over there,
but, uh, what do you do? You know,

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they don't want help. They, you
know, whatever. But so, I mean,

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there are some quote unquote
bad sections of traverse city,

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but I don't feel unsafe anywhere
in the city or around the area

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really. You know, like I said,

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the crime rates are probably a
tad lower than average for, uh,

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the amount of people in
the area. I think we're,

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I think we're around a hundred thousand,
150,000 in the, in the Metro area.

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Uh, you know, the five
counties surrounding traverse
city, but, uh, you know,

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traverse city itself, I think is still
around 20,000 in the actual city.

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I'm not in the actual city here I'm oh,

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a hundred yards. from the
city limit, something like that.

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But I'm officially an east bay
township, which, uh, like I said, not,

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not really a big
distinction, but you know,

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I do feel like I'm kind of out
in the boonies a little bit.

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If you go look at the
picture I, I picked, uh,

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the airplane that took that picture
or drone or whatever was pretty darn

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close to my house looking west. Uh,

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so I'd have been right below
where that picture was taken, uh,

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at the base of east bay. And,

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and this picture is the city
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east bay is more rural,
but not really ,

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but yeah, that's one of the
other reasons, like I say,

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you don't find too many unfriendly
people here, uh, you know,

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the business owners and, you know,
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friendly people and you know, and
then of course we've got, you know,

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some of the big box stores,
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we've got target and Wallie
world and home Depot and Lowe's

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but, you know, we don't have
some of the, the more, you know,

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we don't have like a, uh, what was that
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uh, we don't have, uh, oh,

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what's the one that Amazon
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we don't have one of those. We have a
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and they have two stores, you know,

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and we don't have big chain
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we do have Walmart target
and Meyer are the three big

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ones, but, uh, we have some
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we got a little place, uh, you know,

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Tom's grocery stores or Tom's food
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probably three, four of
'em we've got Olsens,

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they've got two or three of 'em
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a lot of local stuff, same thing
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We don't have big market radio up here.
We don't have Citadel. We don't have,

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uh, clear channel. We
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would be called iHeartRadio now,

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but we don't have any stations owned by
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local owners. So, you know, we
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you know, every genre of,
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eight or nine stations total, something
like that, maybe more, but, you know,

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eight or nine, I think
McDonald, Grave's got 4, 5, 6,

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uh, there's, uh, a couple other,
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you know, 10, 12 stations, that's
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they're local stations. We, you know,
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uh, is, you know,

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all local programming
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And they have, uh, local news breaks.
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what radio station in a big market
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you just don't. Uh, and as
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uh, you know, one of the other big things
about it is there's trees. You know,

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I, I lived in Idaho and there was some
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and on the base that I was stationed
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I had a tree in my yard. In fact, I was
on Google earth the other day, just, uh,

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fiddling around, you know, seeing
what everything looked like.

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there was a tree in the yard
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That was probably three inches
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30 something years later, it's, uh,
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quite a bit taller, but, you know,
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the tallest tree I saw in
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the big joke up there was how do you, uh,

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find your way out of the Iceland
national forest, if you get lost?

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being that close to the Arctic circle and
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a lot of trees that grow
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you know, it makes me appreciate all the
more, you know, what we have here and,

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you know, a lot of people ask
me about the snow. Eh, you know,

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it's really not as bad as it
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Uh, it's just snow and yeah,
it might slow you down.

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you might have to make arrangements to
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but it's also a good way to get
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snowblower. And of course it
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the walk behind snowblower and the,
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you bundle up like the
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it still gets pretty cold and just,
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but you know, that walk behind snowblower.
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for an hour walking around outside when
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you always tell people, you know, I'd
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you can always put more clothes on,

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but there's generally a limit
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it's, uh, you know, I love it up
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it can be a pain, you know,
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and I'm lucky that our
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four airlines and it's more or
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uh, that way driving, yeah,

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you gotta drive 35, 40 miles or 50
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you spend on which way you're going.
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It's two, you know, nice two lane
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generally you gotta watch out for deer
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That's one thing up here. We have our
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it doesn't everywhere, but,
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generally why I like it up here.
It's just, uh, you know, we,

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we don't have hurricanes,
we don't have earthquakes,

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and I've been places that had all of
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it's, it's really something,
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hurricane Andrew came across south Florida
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we evacuated all our airplanes out to
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Texas instead,

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or new Orleans or whatever
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than they were if we would've
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where they were at, uh, in EG
at Egland. But, uh, you know,

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been, been in places at our earthquakes,
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Idaho would rumble a little bit
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you know, so, but in
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we used to get wildfires now, you know,

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luckily they stayed in the desert for
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where I was at in the little
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We weren't that close to, uh,
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the towns are probably even a little more
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driving across the desert on the
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for as long as you could
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it was just a orange glow from the big
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the Sage brush burning, you
smoke and all that, you know,

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something,

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something we don't deal with here
that often we get forest fires down.

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uh, but it's pretty rare around here. Uh,

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and we get enough rainfall and, and,
and all that, but, uh, you know,

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every once in a while, nature throws
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and very few tornadoes. I
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we'll get a tornado or a
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but that's not an every year thing.
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you know, some somewhere
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you know, yeah, we get
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it's a blizzard hurt really.
I mean, you know, snowfall.

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Yeah. I mean, if it gets too ridiculous,
it, it definitely impedes travel,

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which, uh, you know, people that, uh,

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need to get to the
hospital or whatever may,

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may have more of a problem
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bad driving conditions and, and whatnot.
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uh, urgently needing to
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just sit it out, take a
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pretty relaxing actually.
So anyway, that's, uh,

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my little spiel about why I
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I guess I'll add to this,
that if there was a couple,

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there's a couple other places that I
would probably consider moving to if I

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couldn't live here, uh, I wouldn't
mind being in, uh, you know,

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like out in the middle
of nowhere, Kentucky or
Tennessee, maybe, uh, you know,

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in a smaller town, maybe not a tiny town,

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but a smaller town in one of
those places might be cool. Uh,

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Tennessee still gets a little hotter in
the summer than I would prefer, but, uh,

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then again, the, the
winters are milder for sure.

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Uh, I wouldn't mind Idaho,
to be honest with you. Uh,

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I would probably live somewhere on the
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the lesser towns, uh, you know,

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like maybe Meridian or Napa
or Calwell, or, you know,

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some town that's not too
far out, but you know,

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far enough out ,
that would be okay probably.

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And I'm sure there's other places around
the country that I haven't been been to

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that I'd probably like, uh, Northern
Nevada. It'd be kind of cool.

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A little town of Eely. I, I always
found that one to be kind of neat. Uh,

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we used to go there,
uh, to go to the casino.

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it's not too far from,
uh, mountain home. Well, you know,

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I take that back. It, it was
probably three or four hour drive,

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but out west that's not so bad. Uh,

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where I lived in Idaho
at the time was a 55

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mile drive to McDonald's to
the nearest McDonald's ,

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which I guess is no big loss,
but, you know, nowadays, uh,

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is McDonald's on every corner,
just like a Starbucks, but,

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uh, yeah, those would probably be a
couple of places I might consider living,

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uh, Texas, like, you know, like I said,

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I don't have any big hatred
for Texas, but a lot of Texas,

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I wasn't a fan of, I lived in,
uh, San Antonio for a while,

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and that's just altogether
too hot most of the year. Uh,

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but you know, I could, I could probably
see living, you know, somewhere north,

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Texas, you know, north
of Dallas or, or, uh,

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something like that
might not be too bad. Uh,

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you know, like I said, there's, there's
way other there's other places, but,

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you know, my, my main thing is,
is, you know, I, I really like the,

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the slower pace for the most
part that we have up here.

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And especially in the winter, you know,
we get, uh, at least two good months,

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sometimes three, uh, good months of, uh,

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things not moving quite as fast, you know,

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not as many events going on
and not as much, you know,

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outdoor chores other than, you
know, keeping the driveway and,

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and walkways clear and, uh, digging
out the mailbox once in a while.

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Uh, it's, it's pretty
mellow, pretty laid back.

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And I like that. So anyway, uh, and,

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and for those of you thinking about moving
to traverse city don't don't, don't,

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don't everything I said was a
lie and stay away, stay away.

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catch me later.