Nov. 3, 2023
Mike’s Podcasting History – MDW390
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Today, I mostly talk about podcasting. My history starting this show as the benzoin report and how I got into the podcasting business working for Blubrry podcasting.
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Mike Dell's world for November 3rd, 2023.
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And today,
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I know some of you have been here with
me a long time and probably know all of
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this, but some of you might be
new because of Na Pod, Pomo 23.
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So I, I kinda wanted to go
through my podcast history.
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You know, I started podcasting.
I near, as I could tell,
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April of 20 0 5 2,
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2005. I guess, uh,
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that date is a little bit fluid
because I can't find my first
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so many episodes.
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So if anybody out there
has OID report number one,
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that's, uh, that, that's
the one I'm looking for. I
don't have it. I think mine,
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what I do have starts at about
episode 30. So I started out,
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I lived in a little town called Lake
Ann, Michigan, that's about, uh,
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20 miles west of where I'm at
here in Traverse City, Michigan.
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Now I'm on the east side of Traverse City,
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and Lake Ann is on the
west side and 15 miles out.
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But I digress. And, uh,
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lake Ann is in what's known
as Benzene County, Michigan.
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That's the smallest county in
Michigan by population and by
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land area. So it's a pretty
sparsely populated out in the woods.
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And so my podcast,
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this one started out as the
OID report 'cause the, uh,
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county people tend to
call themselves benzo.
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I did not know that It was
also a class of drugs.
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So funny thing there. But, uh,
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about episode 50 ish,
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I decided to change it to Mike
Dell's world. It's really,
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this podcast has always been
about nothing in particular,
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just what's going on in my world.
So why not Mike Dell's world?
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I talk a lot about Michigan. I talk
about cars, I talk about airplanes.
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I talk about whatever strikes
my fancy from time to time.
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So it's really a show about nothing
which I like. You know, it's, it's,
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it's therapy. You know, I have other
podcasts that I do that are, uh,
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more professional, like a
podcast insider that I do for my,
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uh, employer, a blueberry podcasting.
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And that one I do weekly.
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This one I do very weekly,
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but I figured for Nepo Pomo, we'll,
uh, we'll kick out a few episodes, uh,
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30 hopefully is the goal. But, uh, yeah,
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I started way, started out way back when,
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and that was when you had to sort
hand roll the RSS feed. You, uh,
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had to find a place to put the,
uh, the audio files, MP threes.
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And, and that's always been
the case. MP threes. Now you.
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Can do M four a's and all
that stuff. But anyway,
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it was one of the, uh, first
100 podcasters or thereabouts.
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And the first podcast
conference I went to in 2006
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in Ontario, California,
the Portable media Expo,
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it was like an old family reunion.
'cause all the podcasters were there,
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all of them. Everybody knew everybody.
Uh, everybody listened to everybody. It,
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it was a whole different vibe than,
than now, you know. Now there's between,
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you know, depending on who you listen to,
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there's between two and 5
million podcasts out there now.
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There's really probably 200
to 300,000 active podcasts,
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this being one of them.
Periodically. But, uh, yeah,
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I, I worked, you know, I worked
on the show. I, I did, you know,
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I never was really consistent,
and I only have 390 episodes,
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but I did have some phone
in episodes. There was a, a,
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an outfit called Garage Band at,
at the time where you could, uh,
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just dial up a phone number,
talk into the phone and hang up,
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and it would pu publish an
episode. I use that for a while,
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and those aren't numbered. So there's
probably more out there than just the, uh,
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390 that I claim. But,
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so I, I did that for
a while. And then, uh,
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I moved to a company called Pod Show.
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Pod Show was a company by
Adam Curry and Ron Bloom.
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Uh, their, their whole thing was Quit
your day job. You know, at the time,
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I had a day job and, you know,
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they were gonna bring money into
podcasting and let you quit your day job.
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And that worked for a few years. Uh,
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but free hosting is a bad business
model. And all, all along this time,
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I, I, I knew the people that that
started Raw Voice Incorporated.
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Raw Voice is the parent company
of Blueberry podcasting, now,
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my employer. But, uh, that first
conference, I met those guys and,
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uh, you know,
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we're hanging around them a bit every
time we'd go to conferences and whatnot.
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And, and so in 2009,
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I, uh,
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switched my hosting from what
was called MEO at the time. Uh,
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'cause pod show had turned into meo
and then MEO tried to compete with, uh,
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YouTube, and now they no
longer exist, but around 2000,
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I think probably 2008 actually,
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I moved to Blueberry hosting and
was a customer at Blueberry for
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a little while.
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And then I got hired on
Part-time as a contractor
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doing tech support. And, you know,
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I would just do email tech support
when I had time. And the job I had,
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I would push a button and then wait an
hour for something to happen and then
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push another button. And.
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So I could do that at my day
job. And, uh, still, you know,
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keep up with support.
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And did that for quite a while, going
to conferences and, and whatnot.
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And I always had this show, and I've
had, I tried a lot of different shows.
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You know, I'm the king of, uh, pod
Fade. Uh, we did What's Up With That,
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with Jim Farley. Did, uh, uh,
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aviation History Today, uh,
which was a daily for a while.
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Then we did aviation History
this week because Daily was hard,
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. And then also
did, uh, strange Today,
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which was a history, uh,
with Strange News, uh,
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on that day. Did that for a
while. It was a daily, uh,
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did the Traverse City Weather Brief,
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which was a daily weather report that, uh,
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I did that for quite a while. It was,
that was actually pretty easy. It was a,
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a rip and read about two minutes
publish done. And I had that on the, uh,
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Amazon Talking Tubes and the, uh,
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Google talking speakers and never
did get it on the Apple one.
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'cause Apple's not that popular
in that genre. Anyway, uh,
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what other ones I've, I've, I've tried
a lot. I had Geek of the North. I had,
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uh, oh, golly, uh,
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fast food history. I see a theme here. I,
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I go at things for a while, then Stop 'em.
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So this one's been the one that's
been carrying me through, uh,
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that can say that I'm a podcaster and
of course, podcast Insider as well.
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And, uh, between those two shows,
uh, I still am a podcaster,
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although infrequently on
this one sometimes. And I
always have ideas of, uh, oh,
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I wanna do a podcast about that.
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And then I remember how much is
involved in starting a podcast.
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It's not particularly hard,
but it's just, you know,
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to do something of quality
takes a little more effort than
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just, uh, rip and read or, uh,
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whatever live to the
hard drive. That was, uh,
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that was another big thing back
in the day. But suffices to say,
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I've been around podcasting a long time.
I've been working full-time for, uh,
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raw Voice now for, or
blueberry for, uh, I dunno,
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5, 7, 7 years, eight
years, something like that.
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And I'm the, uh, part, part
owner. And, uh, and, uh,
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yeah, it's going swimmingly. I work in a,
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a shed in my backyard and, uh,
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have a 45 foot commute
out my back door. And,
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uh, yeah, life is good. But,
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so that's kind of the, the brief
history. I figure all told,
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I've probably created and published 2,500
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episodes in one form or another.
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And I've guested on several podcasts
and guest hosted some podcasts.
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I guest hosted, uh, geek News
Central before, uh, for Todd, uh,
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who's also the CEO of
Blueberry and Raw Voice.
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And speaking of which, uh,
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guesting on shows tomorrow afternoon, uh,
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I'm gonna be on the Podcasting
2.0 show with, uh, Adam Curry,
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the inventor of podcasting, or
co-inventor of podcasting, and Dave Jones,
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the Pod Sage. And, uh,
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Todd and I are gonna be guests
on the Podcasting 2.0 show.
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And you won't find
Podcasting 2.0 on Spotify.
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You won't find it on Apple,
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or you might find it on Apple if
somebody stuck it in there. But, uh,
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they didn't put it there themselves.
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And Podcasting 2.0 is kind of
a big thing, uh, these days,
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in my humble opinion. If you
want to read all about it,
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go to podcast index.org.
And they have a lot of,
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lot of things. Actually, I should
say it's today. 'cause I'm,
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I'm recording a day ahead, so
this is actually November 2nd,
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but I will be on November 3rd.
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And if you download either
Fountain or Pod verse
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and I, and there's probably some
other ones, uh, from the, uh,
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podcast apps.com page,
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and then subscribe to Podcasting 2.0,
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you'll get a, a notice
about, uh, two o'clock,
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1 30, 2 o'clock that, uh,
podcasting 2.0 is live,
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and that is live. We're live streaming
it. So you'll get a notice there,
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and then you hit, uh, play and
you're listening live to, uh,
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us recording that show.
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And then it'll be put out later as
a regular podcast in an RSS feed.
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But that's part of the
Podcasting 2.0 stuff.
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So if you get on a newer app
like Pod Verse or Fountain or
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I don't know, there's,
there's a bunch of 'em.
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I'll have a link to that page in
the show notes over@mikedell.com.
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But, uh, yeah, the,
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the old legacy apps and almost
podcast apps like Spotify,
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that's not really a podcast app. I
don't believe this show's in Spotify,
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but if it is, I didn't put it
there. And, uh, I am an Apple,
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although looking at my
stats for this show,
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most of you guys are using
Overcast or casts or,
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you know, some, some of those
better apps, uh, than, you know,
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like Spotify is a music app.
They should, you know, they're,
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they're great for music, not
so great for podcasting. Uh,
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the whole new YouTube thing I'm
gonna do an episode about. In fact,
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probably tomorrow I'm gonna do an episode
explaining YouTube big air quotes,
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podcasts,. 'cause they're not,
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but Google seems to think
they are. Anyway, with that,
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I don't want to keep you too long. I'm
sure you got lots of shows to listen to.
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We'll catch you tomorrow.
Thanks for listening.
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Mike Dell's world for November 3rd, 2023.
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And today,
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I know some of you have been here with
me a long time and probably know all of
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this, but some of you might be
new because of Na Pod, Pomo 23.
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So I, I kinda wanted to go
through my podcast history.
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You know, I started podcasting.
I near, as I could tell,
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April of 20 0 5 2,
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2005
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that date is a little bit fluid
because I can't find my first
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so many episodes.
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So if anybody out there
has OID report number one,
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that's, uh, that, that's
the one I'm looking for. I
don't have it. I think mine,
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what I do have starts at about
episode 30. So I started out,
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I lived in a little town called Lake
Ann, Michigan, that's about, uh,
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20 miles west of where I'm at
here in Traverse City, Michigan.
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Now I'm on the east side of Traverse City,
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and Lake Ann is on the
west side and 15 miles out.
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But I digress. And, uh,
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lake Ann is in what's known
as Benzene County, Michigan.
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That's the smallest county in
Michigan by population and by
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land area. So it's a pretty
sparsely populated out in the woods.
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And so my podcast,
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this one started out as the
OID report 'cause the, uh,
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county people tend to
call themselves benzo.
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I did not know that It was
also a class of drugs
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So funny thing there. But, uh,
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about episode 50 ish,
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I decided to change it to Mike
Dell's world. It's really,
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this podcast has always been
about nothing in particular,
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just what's going on in my world.
So why not Mike Dell's world?
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I talk a lot about Michigan. I talk
about cars, I talk about airplanes.
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I talk about whatever strikes
my fancy from time to time.
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So it's really a show about nothing
which I like. You know, it's, it's,
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it's therapy. You know, I have other
podcasts that I do that are, uh,
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more professional, like a
podcast insider that I do for my,
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uh, employer, a blueberry podcasting.
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And that one I do weekly.
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This one I do very weekly
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but I figured for Nepo Pomo, we'll,
uh, we'll kick out a few episodes, uh,
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30 hopefully is the goal. But, uh, yeah,
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I started way, started out way back when,
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and that was when you had to sort
hand roll the RSS feed. You, uh,
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had to find a place to put the,
uh, the audio files, MP threes.
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the case. MP threes. Now you.
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Can do M four a's and all
that stuff. But anyway,
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it was one of the, uh, first
100 podcasters or thereabouts.
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conference I went to in 2006
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in Ontario, California,
the Portable media Expo,
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it was like an old family reunion.
'cause all the podcasters were there,
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all of them. Everybody knew everybody.
Uh, everybody listened to everybody. It,
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it was a whole different vibe than,
than now, you know. Now there's between,
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you know, depending on who you listen to,
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there's between two and 5
million podcasts out there now.
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There's really probably 200
to 300,000 active podcasts,
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this being one of them.
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I, I worked, you know, I worked
on the show. I, I did, you know,
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I never was really consistent,
and I only have 390 episodes,
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but I did have some phone
in episodes. There was a, a,
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an outfit called Garage Band at,
at the time where you could, uh,
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just dial up a phone number,
talk into the phone and hang up,
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and it would pu publish an
episode. I use that for a while,
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and those aren't numbered. So there's
probably more out there than just the, uh,
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390 that I claim. But,
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so I, I did that for
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Pod Show was a company by
Adam Curry and Ron Bloom.
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Uh, their, their whole thing was Quit
your day job. You know, at the time,
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I had a day job and, you know,
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they were gonna bring money into
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but free hosting is a bad business
model. And all, all along this time,
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I, I, I knew the people that that
started Raw Voice Incorporated.
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Raw Voice is the parent company
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my employer. But, uh, that first
conference, I met those guys and,
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we're hanging around them a bit every
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switched my hosting from what
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'cause pod show had turned into meo
and then MEO tried to compete with, uh,
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YouTube, and now they no
longer exist, but around 2000,
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a little while.
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doing tech support. And, you know,
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I would just do email tech support
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I would push a button and then wait an
hour for something to happen and then
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push another button. And.
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So I could do that at my day
job. And, uh, still, you know,
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keep up with support.
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to conferences and, and whatnot.
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And I always had this show, and I've
had, I tried a lot of different shows.
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You know, I'm the king of, uh, pod
Fade. Uh, we did What's Up With That,
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with Jim Farley. Did, uh, uh,
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aviation History Today, uh,
which was a daily for a while.
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Then we did aviation History
this week because Daily was hard,
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did, uh, strange Today,
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which was a history, uh,
with Strange News, uh,
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on that day. Did that for a
while. It was a daily, uh,
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did the Traverse City Weather Brief,
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which was a daily weather report that, uh,
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I did that for quite a while. It was,
that was actually pretty easy. It was a,
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a rip and read about two minutes
publish done. And I had that on the, uh,
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Amazon Talking Tubes and the, uh,
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Google talking speakers and never
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'cause Apple's not that popular
in that genre. Anyway, uh,
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what other ones I've, I've, I've tried
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uh, oh, golly, uh,
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fast food history. I see a theme here. I,
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I go at things for a while, then Stop 'em.
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that can say that I'm a podcaster and
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although infrequently on
this one sometimes. And I
always have ideas of, uh, oh,
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involved in starting a podcast.
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It's not particularly hard,
but it's just, you know,
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to do something of quality
takes a little more effort than
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just, uh, rip and read or, uh,
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whatever live to the
hard drive. That was, uh,
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that was another big thing back
in the day. But suffices to say,
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I've been around podcasting a long time.
I've been working full-time for, uh,
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raw Voice now for, or
blueberry for, uh, I dunno,
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5, 7, 7 years, eight
years, something like that.
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owner. And, uh, and, uh,
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yeah, it's going swimmingly. I work in a,
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a shed in my backyard and, uh,
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have a 45 foot commute
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uh, yeah, life is good. But,
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so that's kind of the, the brief
history. I figure all told,
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I've probably created and published 2,500
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I guest hosted, uh, geek News
Central before, uh, for Todd, uh,
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who's also the CEO of
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guesting on shows tomorrow afternoon, uh,
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I'm gonna be on the Podcasting
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the inventor of podcasting, or
co-inventor of podcasting, and Dave Jones,
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the Pod Sage. And, uh,
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Todd and I are gonna be guests
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You won't find it on Apple,
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or you might find it on Apple if
somebody stuck it in there. But, uh,
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they didn't put it there themselves.
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in my humble opinion. If you
want to read all about it,
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go to podcast index.org.
And they have a lot of,
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lot of things. Actually, I should
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I'm recording a day ahead, so
this is actually November 2nd,
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other ones, uh, from the, uh,
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podcast apps.com page,
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you'll get a, a notice
about, uh, two o'clock,
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1 30, 2 o'clock that, uh,
podcasting 2.0 is live,
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and that is live. We're live streaming
it. So you'll get a notice there,
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and then you hit, uh, play and
you're listening live to, uh,
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us recording that show.
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I don't know, there's,
there's a bunch of 'em.
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I'll have a link to that page in
the show notes over@mikedell.com.
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the old legacy apps and almost
podcast apps like Spotify,
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that's not really a podcast app. I
don't believe this show's in Spotify,
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but if it is, I didn't put it
there. And, uh, I am an Apple,
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although looking at my
stats for this show,
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most of you guys are using
Overcast or casts or,
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you know, some, some of those
better apps, uh, than, you know,
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like Spotify is a music app.
They should, you know, they're,
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they're great for music, not
so great for podcasting. Uh,
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the whole new YouTube thing I'm
gonna do an episode about. In fact,
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probably tomorrow I'm gonna do an episode
explaining YouTube big air quotes,
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podcasts,
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but Google seems to think
they are. Anyway, with that,
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I don't want to keep you too long. I'm
sure you got lots of shows to listen to.
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We'll catch you tomorrow.
Thanks for listening.