F-111 “Aardvark” “Pig” or “Raven”- MDW377 – #napodpomo21

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Some people say that under that hat,
Mike Dell has a chip in his head.

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Unfortunately, it's a Dorito.

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Good morning. It's 9:00 AM.
Local time at traverse city,

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Michigan time for the Sunday
morning amateur social hour.

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This is a smash net that meets
every Sunday morning at this of

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39 35 and is sponsored by the cherry
land amateur radio club in Trevor

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city, Michigan. This is an open
net. Anyone is welcome to join.

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I'm Ken w H Q K at Trevor city.

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Anyone wishing join, please call out.

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K O D K H K.

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K. LM.

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W HT,

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November Sierra kilowatt.

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No, we got a bunch and
I one right early. Oh,

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we got w three K OD KF, AK,

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uh, K L M J w HTC NS,

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a K K and K R RSC. Who did that? Miss?

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Okay. That was, uh,

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the beginning of the smash net.

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The smash stands for Sunday morning,

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social hour sponsored by the
cherry land amateur radio club,

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which is a club here locally
in traverse city, Michigan,

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of course we're the cherry capital
of the world. So, uh, we, uh,

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call it cherry land or
whatever. Anyway, that,

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that was an example of
an, uh, 75 meter net, uh,

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75 slash 80 meter that's
one band, but, uh, the, uh,

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voice portion of the band is, uh,

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referred to as 75 and the
rest of the band. Uh, the,

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the lower parts of it, uh, are
for digital and Morse code,

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otherwise known as CW
continuous wave, but, uh,

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the upper part is, uh, called 75 and
basically that denotes voice versus

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versus, uh, anything else, but, uh,

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75 meters on a Sunday morning,

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we start that one at 9:00
AM, local time as, uh,

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Ken said there and I
know all these guys cuz uh,

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they're all pretty local. Uh,

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the 80 meter band or 75
meter band, whatever, uh,

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right around three point, uh, eight
megahertz, something like that.

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Uh, this was at 38 30, no,

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39 35 is the frequency. So if
you're anywhere in the, uh,

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Northern Midwest, uh, you probably
would be able to hear it on some days,

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not always, but uh, that
band stays pretty local.

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And what I mean by what I
mean by pretty local in UHF

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or, uh, high frequency, which is
really actually low frequency.

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I know that makes no sense
but anyway, the,

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uh,

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the 80 meter band at that time
of the day is somewhat local. It,

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uh, relies on what's known as
ground wave propagation. So, uh,

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but local being, you know, anywhere
kind of in the Northern Midwest, uh,

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the one guy there V E three K O D uh,

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his name's John and he's
up on St. Joseph island in,

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uh, Canada, but which is actually
a little bit south of sugar island,

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which is Michigan.

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So it's in the St Mary's river and
it's that part of the border where the

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zigzag, the, uh, the,

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the islands there to figure out which
one went to Canada and which one went to

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the us.

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So St Joseph island ended
up in Canada and sugar ended up

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in, uh, the us. And, uh,
that's really how they did it,

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or that's what I was told anyway.
Don't know if I believe it, but anyway,

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it's pretty local. Uh,

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usually don't get a lot of out state and
usually it's pretty local like traverse

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city interlock and Leland
county antrum county.

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Uh, maybe over to Gaylord. Sometimes
we get some from Southern Michigan. Uh,

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I know when I'm in grand
Haven, I can check in.

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Usually if I have the mobile
rig, uh, mobile HF rig,

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which I don't carry with me,

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normally we used to have it in a motor
home and don't have the motor home

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anymore. So, uh, yeah, don't do
that from the motor home, but, uh,

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when we go camping pretty much anywhere,
we'd go camping around Michigan.

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I could check in on that net. And
I do a later one on 40 meters,

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which is around 7 0 7 0.2

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megahertz, thereabouts, uh, particularly
7 1 8 5 give or take a little,

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depending on how busy
the band is. But, uh,

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we usually find a spot somewhere
around 71, 85 at 10 30 local time,

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or 10 30 Eastern time since, uh,

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the 40 meter band at that
little bit later hour covers,

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I'd say regionally.

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And we get check-ins from
maybe Texas once in a while,

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maybe Florida once in a while,

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but it pretty much covers the
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uh, is what I can usually
hear from here. Uh,

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the guy that runs the net usually
is in Dayton, Ohio. So, uh, he,

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he gets some of the further south ones,

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but we have normal check-ins
from con uh, Kentucky, Tennessee,

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Ohio, Michigan, uh, let's
see Illinois, Indiana,

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uh, Maryland, uh, you know, DC area,

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Connecticut area, uh, you know,
just all around the, uh, Northeast,

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but Mo mostly Midwest. But like I said,

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we get the occasional check-in from
Texas and we get one guy that's, uh,

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actually in San Diego
that, uh, remotes into, uh,

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a transmitter here in traverse
city. So, you know, he's,

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he's really lo local, but, uh,
he does an internet remote, uh,

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into it to another guy in Boston
that kind of does that too,

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or Cambridge, not Boston ,

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but anyway, it's pretty normal to, uh,

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to get people in that
wider range, but, you know,

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there could be nuts on all different
bands. I I've checked into, uh,

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you know, nets at, on 75 meters
at night that cover the us,

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uh, in Canada and Mexico. Uh, but
there's a lot of different nets.

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And one, the net is basically is it's
a scheduled gathering of ham radio

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operators on a particular frequency
for a particular purpose. Uh,

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the purpose of the Sunday
morning social hour,

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the smash net that I get on locally
here is, uh, basically just to, uh,

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you know, just have a, a discussion
and it's a semi directed net,

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uh,

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directed nets are where the
net control in this case with

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Ken w at Q KP, uh, he takes the, the
check-ins at the beginning there.

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And then, uh, later on, he'll
ask for more check-ins as we go,

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and we'll usually make two
rounds. So he'll, you know,

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call the first guy on the list and,

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and he'll make a transmission and then
he'll call the next person on the list

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and he'll make a transmission.
And then, you know,

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it always goes back to the net control.

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So the net control directs
where it goes next. The, uh,

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I O K the international order of crazies
net that I get on a little bit later in

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40 meters is a round table net.

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So once we establish all
the check-ins, uh, you know,

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Keith w a eight Z WJ down
in Dayton, Ohio will,

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uh, take check-ins and
then he'll make a, a order,

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and then he'll tell the order. And
then he'll, uh, say, okay, you know,

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the first station on the list,

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and you gotta remember who you're getting
it from and who you're giving it to.

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So really you just have to
write down two call signs,

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who you're getting it from
and who you're getting it to,

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or who you're gonna give it to. And
that's how it works. So, you know, say,

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you know, I'm, I'm first on the
list and I do my transmission and,

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and it's a social thing. It's just, you
know, the weather, the, this, or that,

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the whatever whatever's going on in the
world, you know, it's a, it's a, uh,

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you know, all of us know, know each other
or know of each other. So it's not a,

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a bunch of strangers on Ann
net on that particular one,

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and we call it a skid. So that's another,

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another thing you can call Annette
as a skid or a schedule. And, uh,

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but, uh,

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so I would get the first transmission and
then I'd pass it to the guy that Keith

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told me that I sent it to. And then he'd
send to the next guy. And, and, and I,

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I say guy, but there's gals that
get on there, spa net, especially,

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we got a couple of women that check
in on that. So it's not just guys,

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but on the, I O K it's generally
just men. So I can say he,

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but, uh, not, not to be
sexist or anything. Uh,

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there's plenty of female hams,
not, not nearly as many as, uh,

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as there are guys, of course,
and there's not, you know, I,

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I'm 55 years old when I walk
into a ham gathering of any sort,

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I am almost always the youngest
person in the room. So, you know,

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kind of skews a little older, not saying
that's true all the time. In fact,

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on this net, uh, that I
played the clip from, uh,

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two or three of the guys are much younger
than a couple of 'em are college kids.

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So, you know, it, it, there are some
young, younger people getting into it. Uh,

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Ken, uh, is a semi-retired
ophthalmologist and he's in his eighties,

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early eighties, but, you
know, so it's a, it it's,

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it's a gamut of ages.

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My dad was one of 'em that checked
in w eight TVC. So that was my dad.

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we, uh, we both get on
that, that, and the I K net, uh,

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every, uh, Sunday that's kinda
ham radio morning is, uh,

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is Sunday mornings. And by the
way, I'm doing this on Monday,

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I should have done it on Sunday. So
you're gonna get two episodes today.

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but anyway, so nets
could be all kinds of things.

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So we have local ones here on
the, on local repeater on VHF.

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So that's why HF being the
lowest frequencies that
we're on as high frequency,

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and then there's VHF,
which very high frequency,

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and then there's UHF ultra high
frequency . So, yeah,

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the lowest is high frequency,
but, uh, and I guess, tactically,

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if you wanna think about it, uh,

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the 160 meter band of ham radio is,

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is technically middle wave, which
would be the same as am radio,

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not same frequencies, but the
same band segment be middle wave.

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Uh, but, uh, for the most part,
it's either HF or VHF U HF.

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Um, but there are some VHF and
UHF nets or some digital nets, uh,

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you know, there's all kinds of, of
things, uh, on, uh, Wednesday nights,

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locally here, we've got the, uh,

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the barf net I know lots of
fun acronyms around here, but, uh,

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that's the benze amateur
radio friends net,

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and that's a combined net with
the, uh, barf group and the,

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uh, local, uh, emergency
communications group, uh,

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which around here is called a R P S C
for amateur radio public service core.

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But it's a combination of a R E
S lots of acronyms, sorry, uh,

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amateur emergency service.
So it's a combined, uh,

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it's an E emergency service
net plus a social net. Uh,

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but it's on the repeaters around here
and it's on a couple of 'em cuz they link

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'em together. But, uh, that's
very local, uh, you know,

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people on walkie talkies and stuff,
uh, talking through a repeater station,

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which, uh, uh, I won't go into
the explanation, but think of,

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of cellular towers for ham
radio, it's kind of that,

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but backwards cuz they existed way
longer than cellular towers ever existed,

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but it's the same basic concept,

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a low powered device going to a high
powered antenna up high and then

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retransmit it out to where all the
low powered devices can get it.

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So tho that net, uh, you
know, it's a little round TA,

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it's not a round table net, it's a
directed net, but uh, you know, that's,

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it's a local one VHF and you probably,
if you have a police scanner,

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you could probably tune into the local
hand radio repeaters in the evenings and

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there'll be at least a one net a
week somewhere around your area.

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And that's probably all you'll
ever hear on the repeaters anymore.

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A lot of people don't, uh, use
them anymore. It's not, uh,

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I mean they use them, but not,
not nearly what they used to, uh,

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used to be very busy on the
repeaters, but not so much anymore.

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But yeah, it's, uh, it's
a fun hobby. Uh, you know,

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this is, this is just one part of
the hobby. This is for the, uh,

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fellowship brotherhood sort of, uh,

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thing that goes on with ham radio. They,
you know, we all sort of, you know,

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meet up on certain times and
you know, sometimes, you know,

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with the emergency communications nets
sits to test out your gear and make sure

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that, uh, what you're
using is working, but uh,

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even the social nets do the same
thing, but there's other, uh,

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highly directed nets. Uh,

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I check into one every once in a while
called the buzzards roost net.

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And it's a, uh, it's a regional
75 meter net that, you know,

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covers more of the Midwest
cuz it's later in the day, uh,

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that propagation changes depending on
time of day and where the sun is and

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all kinds of factors, but uh,
it's suffice it to say, you know,

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it starts at 5:00 PM. So it, uh, it,

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it's pretty regional and I'll
check into that once in a while,

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but it's highly directed and you
only get one transmission and you

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could,

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you check in and it could be 45 minutes
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transmission. So, you know,
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but it's not fast paced and there's,
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I think they're kind of cool, uh, county
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am radio, at least in the us
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you know, so you want to contact
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call a roll call. You know,
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call up for checkins.
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you tell 'em what county and
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mostly it's gonna be us and you
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when it's your turn to check, you
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you will call that other county that,
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then you can count that as a contact
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do it on logbook of the world
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things like that and, uh,

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verify the contact and that way
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uh, or cont well, there's other
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those that's easy. I've, I've
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couple times at least.

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Idaho's pretty uncommon on the state
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uh, where I'd get just about
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when I would get on there.
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when you're in a say,

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you're in Wayne county in Detroit and
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you know, you're, you're
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but you're not gonna be somebody's
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It's just, you know, there's a ton of
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uh, grand rapids area or cook county
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it's the same, but there's
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they call and that's like when
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they'll call up a, a hurricane
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either you're in it, or
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or you've just gone through it and you're
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and all that you check in with net
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days and hours and whatever, you know,

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you probably pull a three
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when you hear on the news that, you know,

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hurricane went through
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ham radio reports say, you don't
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everybody's got satellite phones
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ham radio, you know, uh,

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let's see another interesting kind of net.

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I, I, I would call it a
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well geez, I'm trying to think I had
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Oh well, but you know, there's all
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at maritime nets. That's what I was
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at least in the summer around the
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maritime net or a, you know, they call
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but they call the maritime net. Cause
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not the great lakes, but they'll be the
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I think it goes for a couple hours
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and time of day. And it's several
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lakes on their, uh,

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sailboats or their boat
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make contact with the world.
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you're usually within cell range,
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if you're doing a lake crossing,
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a couple hours where you're not, not in
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you know, it's kind of a, a
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I always found that interesting to listen
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you'll hear that, uh, not as much
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if the pilots are hams
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get on an aviation net
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talk their way across the, the Atlantic.

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for, you know, aviation
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famous one is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. So 123 point,

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aviation radios. That's kind of the,
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1, 2, 3 0.45 in, uh, one of the
memories and every once in a while,

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you're hear a couple of jets, uh, way
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even going across the us. So it's kinda
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you might might wanna put
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1 21 0.51 21.5. That's the, uh,

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it's called guard, but it's a,
it's also a beacon frequency.

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So if an airplane crashes, a lot of
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leave leap on that frequency, cuz
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the ELT emergency location
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a other times you'll hear the air
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a hold of an airplane that they
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everybody's supposed to be monitoring
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That's why, uh, airplanes have
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you get on the wrong frequency, uh,
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but that totally not
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let's see what else about
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yeah, I participate in a few,

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you know, uh, pretty regular on the
smash net and the ilk nets on Sunday.

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Uh, I get on the statewide
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Uh that's either on, on
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depending on the time of year, it switches
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and uh, 75 meters the
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a probation that time of day
or whatever. But uh, anyway,

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that's uh, really about it. So I'm,
I'm gonna call this a podcast. Uh,

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this is making up for
yesterday Sunday. So, uh,

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this one will go out and then
shortly thereafter the next episode.

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So, uh, make sure if you, if you thought
I was done for the day that you, uh,

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go back and uh, snag the next one, uh,

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which will be out shortly, I'm gonna
be talking about podcast index,

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catch me later.