Episode 400 and 20 years of podcasting

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[Mike Dell]
Good morning, good evening, good afternoon, whatever the

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case may be. This is Mike, and this

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is Mike Dell's World Number four hundred. And,

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today is the day before International Podcast Day.

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It's Sunday, the twenty ninth of September twenty

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twenty four. So, I figured I'd get out

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ahead of the International Podcast Day. I guess

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it's probably the thirtieth someplace in the world.

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That's cool. But, yeah, I figured I would

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just kind of go over a little bit

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of my history in podcasting, those of you

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who have been with me forever. I have

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some listeners that have been listening since the

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get go, or pretty close, which was in

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April of two thousand and five. I was

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living in Lake Ann, Michigan. It's a little

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town a few miles west of here. I'm

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in Traverse City, in case you guys didn't

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know that. The pinky finger of Michigan. Everybody

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in Michigan points to the back of their

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left hand, at least if they don't live

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in the UP. And, they're in the pinky

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finger area, I guess. Nobody calls it that,

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but that's what I call it. But, over

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in Lake Ann, you know, I was well,

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we'll go back a little bit further. Back

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in the early two thousand's, I got really

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interested in talk radio because I was, you

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know, up at all hours of the night,

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working night shift at a printing plant. And,

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you know, talk radio, people like Art Bell,

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and, Jimbo Ham, Larry King, and Bruce Williams,

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Sally Jesse Raphael, the old NBC Talk Net,

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and, of course, like, Paul Harvey. But, you

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know, in the middle of the night, there

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really wasn't a lot of of different shows

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to listen to. So it was mostly Art

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Bell. And then I would catch Jim Boyan

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or Larry King, you know, before Art Bell.

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And, I discovered this thing called an iPod.

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And, back when the iPod first came out,

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I thought, oh, this is great. I can

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put stuff on here. So, what stuff? There

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wasn't much to put on there other than

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music. And, you know, when you're working night

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shift, music's kinda boring, puts you to sleep.

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So, you know, Bruce Williams was the first

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I I knew of that would put MP3

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files on their website that you could download.

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So I would download those MP3 files from,

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three hours of Bruce Williams and And then,

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I found a couple other sites that would

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do that. And before too long, I filled

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up my little iPod. In fact, I have

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the iPod that I used over in that

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other desk behind me. One of those iPod

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Shuffles. It looked like a stick of gum,

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kind of that shape. And, I think I

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could put five hundred and twelve megabytes of

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MP3s on there. And, you know, back then

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we didn't encode them as high as we

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do now. And, that was plenty. It would

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get me through an eight hour shift and

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I wouldn't even have to worry about the

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AM radio. Listening to Art Bell when they

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turned the power down, and you could, you

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know, have the radio at just a certain

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spot and crank it up. This was a

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lot easier. I could listen in earbuds, wired

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earbuds. And then I heard about this thing

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called podcasting. I would listen to Twit, of

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course. They were one of the first ones.

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I listened to Adam Curry, The Daily Source

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Code. That one was pretty popular. And, you

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know, back then there was maybe a hundred

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podcasters, something like that. Listened to Todd and

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Geek News Central. He was one of the

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first ones that I listened to. And, I

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mean, there was just all kinds of stuff,

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you know, out of that hundred that was

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worth listening to. And, definitely got into it.

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And, you know, I always wanted to have

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my own radio show. I didn't really have

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a lot to talk about. I still don't.

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But, I always wanted to do it, you

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know, just for the sake of doing it.

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And, this was kind of the way to

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do it. So, again, April two thousand and

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five, I got a I just bought a

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Dell laptop, a little twelve inch Windows machine,

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and came with a little stick microphone. I

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said, well, jeez, how hard is this, podcasting

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thing to do? Back then, it was it

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was a bit harder. I had to, hand

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roll the RSS feed. That took me a

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little while to figure it out. And, you

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know, I was hand rolling a website. And,

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basically, truth be told, I stole Adam's feed

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and, just changed stuff around for my stuff

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and put it on the server and away

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it went. And so that's how I started.

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It was this show. It was named differently.

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It was called the Benzoide Report. The reason

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for that was I lived in Benzie County,

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Michigan. And, some of the people out there

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call themselves Benzides. It's the smallest county in

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Michigan, and I don't think it's the least

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populated, but it's not very populated even now.

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And I think they only have one working

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traffic light in the whole county. So, it's

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mostly woods and Lake Michigan shoreline, and cute

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little towns and whatnot. Lake Ann being one

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of them. And, so I thought that would

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be cool. A benzoed report. I didn't know

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a benzoed was a class of drug, so

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So, that probably slowed me down a little

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bit or got listeners in there that, well,

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what's this all about? And, you know, it

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wasn't really about anything. It still isn't. And,

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that's kind of what I like about it.

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I've done lots of other podcasts, and I'll

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go through kind of a list of that

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here in a little bit. I do have

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some guidelines here, so I don't forget anything.

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But, about the first thirty six episodes, thirty

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seven episodes of the Benzoin Report are lost

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in the bit bucket somewhere. You know, they

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always say that you put something on the

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Internet and it's here forever. Well, that's not

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exactly true. I cannot find the first thirty

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six episodes that I did. Nowhere online, no

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mention of it online anywhere, but, I know

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I did them. And, truth be told, probably

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on a hard drive somewhere in my garage

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in a in a bin full of, old

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hard drives. So, some point some point, I'll

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get, set up to where I can search

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some hard drives and see if I can't

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find those. It would would be cool to

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listen to how crappy that first episode was.

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Again, I was sitting on my front porch

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outside in the woods, with a stick microphone

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and a laptop and, yeah, I'm sure it

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was just wonderful. But, flash forward to September

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of two thousand and eight, I decided that

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the Benzoin Report was probably not the right

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name for the podcast and switched it over

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to Mike Dell's World with episode ninety three.

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So, technically, subtract ninety two episodes and that's

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my true count of Mike Dell's World, but,

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we're splitting hairs here. And, I've done a

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lot of unnumbered episodes. For a while there,

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there was some technology that you could actually,

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literally phone it in. You'd dial a phone

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number and talk into the phone, and then

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when you hung up, it created a podcast

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episode and put it out. So, I did

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a lot of those episodes. Done, you know,

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I've podcasted a lot of places. I've podcasted

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walking down the strip in Las Vegas. I've

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podcasted, you know, taking a walk around my

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neighborhood, one of my favorite episodes. I forgot

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what number it is. It's still online. But,

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it's called Walking with the White Squirrels. I

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don't know why that's my favorite, it just

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always was. I've replayed it probably two times

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since. You know, it's the neighborhood I live

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in. It's all nice and woods. And behind

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my house, there was a family of white

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squirrels. And, I haven't seen any in several

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years now, but you know, there were albino

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I guess they're albino squirrels, and, I guess

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they don't last in the wild just because

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they're easy to see. But used to, you

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know, take a walk back there, and I'd

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see three, four, five, six of them. And,

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now I don't see them anymore. So, yeah,

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I guess. But, you know, walking and talking,

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you know, people look at you funny. Nowadays,

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they don't because, you know, everybody's got Bluetooth

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and talking on their phones all the time.

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You know, you can walk around like a

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crazy person and nobody would care. And, you

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know, a lot of people walk around with

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cameras in their face. It's just not quite

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my thing. You know, because of my podcast,

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I have the full time employment that I

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have now. I went to a conference in

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two thousand seven out in California and, by

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chance, ran into the, Ravoice team out there.

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Barry and Todd, Brian, Angelo, I don't remember

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who else was there. But, I hit it

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off with them, apparently, because, a couple years

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later, I went part time with them. Everybody

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was part time back then. So, in o

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nine, started part time at Blueberry doing, tech

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support. You know, helping them with, you know,

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they just come out with a PowerPress plugin

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for WordPress and, just started hosting shows. You

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know, before that, we weren't doing any hosting.

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It was all advertising. And, we pivoted. If

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you want to hear the whole story about

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that, the episode of Podcast Insider that came

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out last Thursday. Some of the people have

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been around Raw Voice and Blueberry all the

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time. We kind of went through the history

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of that. You know, celebrating twenty years of

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podcasting, He said, Nearly twenty years of me

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podcasting in April. That'll be twenty. Todd, I

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think, just went over twenty years. Interesting stuff.

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But, yeah. I went with Blueberry part time

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in two thousand and nine. And, you know,

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I've been kind of living the living the

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dream, I guess. And then in twenty fifteen,

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I went full time. And I've been there

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ever since, of course. And, again, you know,

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about four hundred episodes. The officially numbered ones

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are four hundred for this show in nearly

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twenty years. So, I figure that averages out

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to about one point six episodes a month.

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I always like to say I'm the king

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of inconsistency in podcasting. So, that's how that

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works. And if you've been with me that

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whole time, you know I go two, three

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months sometimes between episodes, and then I put

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out a bunch of them, and then, stop

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for a while and put out a bunch

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more. I'm doing exactly you know, don't do

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as I do, do as I say. My

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suggestion is stay consistent. But I haven't done

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that. That's okay. But, I've had a lot

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of other podcasts along the way that I've

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started and stopped. I'm also the King of

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Pod Fade. And, this isn't even a full

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list, but I was just, you know, going

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through my head here. The second show that

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I started was with a friend of mine,

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John Martin. We're both ham radio operators, and

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we're teaching live classes, getting your ham radio

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license here in the US. We did the

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technician and the general course. We didn't do

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the extra class. We've had plans to and,

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that one pod faded. But, we called it

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the Ham Radio Pod Class. And, that started,

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like, in September of two thousand five. And,

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even got a mention on the Adam Curry's

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daily source code. So that was the claim

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to fame there. But, near as I can

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tell, we we got probably seven or eight

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hundred people licensed as, technician class amateur radio

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operators here in the US. And, I don't

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know how many generals, but, definitely had a

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pretty decent following on that. Made a couple

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enemies along the way. There was a couple

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of other people that were doing cassette tape

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classes for ham radio and they weren't real

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happy with us. We'd go down to hamvention

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and get snubbed. I won't mention any names

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because, one of them is still active, doing

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that. He does good. He sells, I don't

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think he sells cassettes anymore. And, in fact,

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I think he had a podcast for a

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while with Leo LaPorte. But, again, I won't,

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I won't say his name just because they

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don't, you know, no no bad comments there.

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He's a good guy, and he's trained a

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heck of a lot more hams than I

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have. But, that was that was the second

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show that we did. Then I thought, oh,

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let's do a daily podcast. Oh my gosh,

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daily is nuts. And, I've tried it four

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or five times and, it's just way too

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much. No matter how short the content is.

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A daily podcast. Shout out to James Cridland

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doing, you know, daily, weekdays. We did, daily

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seven days a week for, one called Strange

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Today. That's where I'd find weird news and

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and, you know, talk about that. And, you

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know, anything strange in the news and strange

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history stuff. I I was like history. So,

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you'll see a repeating theme here on some

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of these shows. But, one thing nice about

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that is I had a few extra guest

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hosts. So, I would write all the scripts.

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They weren't really word for word scripts, but

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I'd write scripts and then I'd send them

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off. You know, so Trucker Tom and, I

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can't think of the other guy that was

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that would do the weekend shows for me,

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but, he still does Linux and the Ham

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Shack. So, shout out to you. But, had

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Trucker Tom do a few of them, and

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Jim Farley, my wife, Kathy. You know, so

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we not always the same host every day,

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but we we made that go a complete

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year. So I did end up with three

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hundred sixty five episodes of that one, called

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Strange Today. And I think that one's all

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gone too. I I again, I probably have

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it all on hard drive somewhere. And then

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Jim Farley and I, Jim's a ham radio

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friend of mine and, friend, has a cottage

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up here. We break bread, quite often. Anyway,

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Jim and I did one called What's Up

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With That? It was just a commentary comedy

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thing. We'd just talk about whatever was going

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on that day, when we would record. We

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did quite a few of those episodes. And,

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every once in a while, I'll get Jim

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to record with me and we'll put one

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of those episodes out on this feed. Again,

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this feed stayed consistent, not consistent, but, it's

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been the one where you find out everything

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because I throw stuff into it from time

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to time. And, I did a geek show

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for a short time called Geek of the

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North. That didn't last very long. Had that

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one on a network with, Steve Lee. And,

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I don't remember what the network name is,

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but he's since retired. He's also one of

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the founders of International Podcast Day, him and

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his son. And, shout out to you, Steve.

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Haven't heard from you in a while. Look

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me up and see what's going on. And,

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those of you that know me know that

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I'm an aviation geek. So I did another

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daily. And, it lasted a year, called Aviation

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History Today. So, I would read stories that

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happened back in the day, you know, about

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aviation. It was just a little short, ten

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minute daily. I did that for three hundred

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sixty five days, so I stayed somewhat consistent

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with that one. And then after the year,

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I said, well, why don't we just do

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aviation history this week? So I did a

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half hour show where I would cover the

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whole week and, come up with some pretty

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pretty cool ones. On the April first, show

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I remember, those of you that are Star

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Trek geeks, which I am, know that in

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two thousand and sixty three, the, Doctor. Zefram

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Cochrane discovered or demonstrated Warp Drive. And, it's

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known as First Contact Day. Anyway, I put

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that in there and, I said that was

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the great great grandson of Todd Cochrane. So,

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anyway, that was funny. I tried a local

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one called the Traverse City podcast. That really

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didn't go very far or very long, but,

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you know, just sorta did that for a

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while and, probably did five episodes where I

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thought, yeah, this is hard. It's hard work.

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So I didn't, didn't stick with that one.

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I did stick with this next one for

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two years. And, it was a daily, seven

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days a week. It was the Traverse City

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Weather Brief. And, all I did was, read

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the weather forecast. Whatever the National Weather Service

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put out, I'd just read that, and, I

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could record a couple days ahead of time.

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It was about a one minute, if that,

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podcast. And, also, was a Amazon what do

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you call it? I can't say her name

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or she'll talk to me, but, the talking

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tube lady, it was one of those skills

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that people could sign up for when they

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got their daily news brief. They would get

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the local weather. So I did that for

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a couple of years, and that was fun.

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But, again, even though it was very short

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and I could record it anywhere, I just

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you know, dailies are hard. Again, James, how

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do you do it? That's crazy. James does,

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you know, a good four minutes, five minutes

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sometimes, on Pod News Daily. Check that out

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if you're into podcast stuff. Then I tried

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another one, Fast Food History. I don't know.

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I got probably twenty episodes of that. It

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was interesting for a while, but, you know,

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again, history related. And then, podcast help desk.

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I did that. I thought, wow, I'm talking

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about podcasting all the time on my main

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show. Let's try it as a weekly show.

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So, I did that. And, that one went

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for a while. I think I got maybe

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one hundred and fifty episodes of that before

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I kind of ran out of things to

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talk about. Plus, I was doing Podcast Insider

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for Blueberry. And, it kind of is the

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same thing. So, I kind of bailed on

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that. Now, I'm doing Podcast Insider very weekly,

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very consistently. I'm not always the host of

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it, but, nine times out of ten I

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am. It's Mackenzie, I, and Todd, and sometimes

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other people. So, that one's going. And, I

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do another show that is still in the,

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we're trying to get our sea legs, but

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with Mike Wilkerson, over at Two Guys Talking

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Network. We do the Auto History Podcast. And,

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we've done a few episodes of it and,

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kind of regrouping right now to get into

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a battle rhythm of, being consistent. But that

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one, I think, will go consistent and having

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a co host helps. So, yeah. Why you

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know, one of the other things I wanted

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to talk about is, well, you know, why

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podcasting? You know? Just do a YouTube channel.

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Do, you know, blogging. Do, you know, actual

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radio broadcasting. Well, I have done some radio

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broadcasting. I get on, every once in a

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while with the morning zoo show here, Omelette

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and Friends. That's actually Omelette and Finster now.

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I haven't been on there since they changed

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the name and moved stations. But at some

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point, I'll get back on there. And, also

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used to do a show called Folk Air.

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I gotta say that slowly. On, the local

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community station, WNMC. I play folk and bluegrass

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and roots music for three hours or two

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hours. I think it was a two hour

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show every Saturday and Tuesday. And, I kind

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of backed off from that. But, I might

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go back to that at some time. So,

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I have been on the radio, but not

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[Mike Dell]
talk radio. Well, I guess the morning zoo

425
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[Mike Dell]
shows sort of talk. But, anyway. But, you

426
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[Mike Dell]
know, podcasting is is definitely a different sort

427
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[Mike Dell]
of medium. You know, now, you know, there's

428
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[Mike Dell]
a push for video now. And, as you

429
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[Mike Dell]
can tell, you know, me talking into a

430
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[Mike Dell]
microphone with headphones on in my office here

431
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[Mike Dell]
is not super compelling video. But, you know,

432
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[Mike Dell]
it's cool to do once in a while

433
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[Mike Dell]
for special occasions, whatever, and, you know, your

434
00:21:50,425 --> 00:21:52,665
[Mike Dell]
mileage may vary. Do what you want. That's,

435
00:21:52,665 --> 00:21:55,804
[Mike Dell]
you know, the rules. But, for me, audio

436
00:21:56,025 --> 00:21:59,130
[Mike Dell]
is just special. Again, you know, I'd be

437
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[Mike Dell]
listening to these people on talk radio in

438
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[Mike Dell]
the middle of the night. You know, you

439
00:22:04,730 --> 00:22:06,970
[Mike Dell]
you really felt that you got to know

440
00:22:06,970 --> 00:22:10,409
[Mike Dell]
them. And now and that was radio, and,

441
00:22:10,409 --> 00:22:13,195
[Mike Dell]
you know, commercials and all that stuff. Well,

442
00:22:13,195 --> 00:22:15,375
[Mike Dell]
in podcasting, you don't have to have commercials.

443
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[Mike Dell]
You know, a lot of podcasters choose to

444
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[Mike Dell]
to monetize with commercials, and I do listen

445
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[Mike Dell]
to some shows that have commercials in them.

446
00:22:22,795 --> 00:22:24,715
[Mike Dell]
No big deal there. In fact, I've ran

447
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[Mike Dell]
commercials before. But, you know, just audio, there's

448
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,920
[Mike Dell]
a different vibe with audio. You know, you

449
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,640
[Mike Dell]
can be doing other things while you're listening

450
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[Mike Dell]
to audio. And, with podcasting, it's even different

451
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[Mike Dell]
than, say, radio. Podcasting is one on one.

452
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[Mike Dell]
Most people are listening on their earbuds, or

453
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[Mike Dell]
they're in their car driving down the road,

454
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[Mike Dell]
listening on Bluetooth to the stereo, or Apple

455
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[Mike Dell]
CarPlay, or Android Auto, whatever. And, generally, it's

456
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[Mike Dell]
not a group activity to listen to a

457
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[Mike Dell]
podcast. Now, there are some exceptions to that,

458
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[Mike Dell]
I'm sure. But, it's a one on one

459
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[Mike Dell]
experience. And, you know, when you're on earbuds,

460
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[Mike Dell]
you're right in their head. Or, you're listening

461
00:23:11,485 --> 00:23:13,485
[Mike Dell]
to somebody, they're right in your head. You

462
00:23:13,485 --> 00:23:15,005
[Mike Dell]
know, if you're listening to me on earbuds

463
00:23:15,005 --> 00:23:16,765
[Mike Dell]
right now, I'm right in your head. Watch

464
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[Mike Dell]
out. What's all this clutter? But with radio,

465
00:23:21,565 --> 00:23:23,725
[Mike Dell]
you know, even though the content can be

466
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[Mike Dell]
very similar, with radio it's one to many.

467
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[Mike Dell]
With podcasting it's one on one. You know,

468
00:23:31,650 --> 00:23:33,890
[Mike Dell]
if you're listening to this after the fact

469
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[Mike Dell]
on a podcast, podcast app, chances of you

470
00:23:37,970 --> 00:23:42,665
[Mike Dell]
listening to me right now and somebody else

471
00:23:42,665 --> 00:23:45,945
[Mike Dell]
listening to me right now are very remote.

472
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[Mike Dell]
It's gonna be you're listening now, somebody else

473
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[Mike Dell]
is listening ten minutes later or three days

474
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[Mike Dell]
later or ten years later, whatever. It's just

475
00:23:54,745 --> 00:23:59,450
[Mike Dell]
a different sort of vibe. Video has its

476
00:23:59,450 --> 00:24:04,970
[Mike Dell]
place. Again, you know, special occasions. I'm looking

477
00:24:04,970 --> 00:24:07,130
[Mike Dell]
over at my camera or looking over at

478
00:24:07,130 --> 00:24:10,169
[Mike Dell]
my monitor, but, you know, I can wave

479
00:24:10,169 --> 00:24:13,725
[Mike Dell]
at you if you're watching on video. And,

480
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[Mike Dell]
you know, I could show you screenshots off

481
00:24:17,385 --> 00:24:19,385
[Mike Dell]
my computer. I could show you pictures. I

482
00:24:19,385 --> 00:24:21,945
[Mike Dell]
could, you know, have some actual interesting video

483
00:24:21,945 --> 00:24:25,325
[Mike Dell]
going on. And, that's a different vibe altogether

484
00:24:25,385 --> 00:24:27,750
[Mike Dell]
too. You know, like a YouTube channel. YouTube

485
00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:31,110
[Mike Dell]
is probably my number one source of video

486
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:33,990
[Mike Dell]
content. I don't watch regular TV all that

487
00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:35,850
[Mike Dell]
much. I mean, every once in a while,

488
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:38,630
[Mike Dell]
live sports is about it. And then, you

489
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:40,070
[Mike Dell]
know, a lot of that, you have to

490
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:42,595
[Mike Dell]
pay for cable to get to. You know,

491
00:24:42,595 --> 00:24:46,515
[Mike Dell]
like yesterday, the Michigan State versus Ohio State

492
00:24:46,515 --> 00:24:48,595
[Mike Dell]
game. Not that I care either you know,

493
00:24:48,595 --> 00:24:50,915
[Mike Dell]
care for either one of those teams. But

494
00:24:50,915 --> 00:24:53,095
[Mike Dell]
if I wanted to watch it, I couldn't

495
00:24:53,235 --> 00:24:58,179
[Mike Dell]
do it unless I paid somebody to, to

496
00:24:58,179 --> 00:25:01,220
[Mike Dell]
watch it. You know, the cable company. Cable

497
00:25:01,220 --> 00:25:05,299
[Mike Dell]
prices are ridiculous. Over the air broadcast? It

498
00:25:05,299 --> 00:25:08,335
[Mike Dell]
wasn't on there. I could stream it, but

499
00:25:08,335 --> 00:25:10,335
[Mike Dell]
I'd have to pay for, I think it

500
00:25:10,335 --> 00:25:14,175
[Mike Dell]
was Peacock for that one. But, they're all

501
00:25:14,175 --> 00:25:18,515
[Mike Dell]
different. And, podcasting is mostly a free experience.

502
00:25:19,295 --> 00:25:21,600
[Mike Dell]
Now there are exceptions to that, too. There's

503
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[Mike Dell]
people that charge for their show or charge

504
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[Mike Dell]
for an ad free version of their show.

505
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,840
[Mike Dell]
And, you know, more power to them. But,

506
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,419
[Mike Dell]
for the most part, free and open podcasting

507
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,375
[Mike Dell]
is free and open, just like it says.

508
00:25:38,435 --> 00:25:41,315
[Mike Dell]
I don't know. It's just one of those

509
00:25:41,315 --> 00:25:43,235
[Mike Dell]
things I fell in love with and I

510
00:25:43,235 --> 00:25:45,955
[Mike Dell]
still am. You know, in my work at

511
00:25:45,955 --> 00:25:48,809
[Mike Dell]
Raw Voice Blueberry, I help a lot of

512
00:25:48,809 --> 00:25:52,410
[Mike Dell]
people, with the technical side. Not so much

513
00:25:52,410 --> 00:25:54,410
[Mike Dell]
the strategy side. You know, if I was

514
00:25:54,410 --> 00:25:56,730
[Mike Dell]
the best podcaster in the world, I'd have

515
00:25:56,730 --> 00:25:58,330
[Mike Dell]
a heck of a lot more audience than

516
00:25:58,330 --> 00:26:02,215
[Mike Dell]
I do. But, I can do this. And

517
00:26:02,215 --> 00:26:04,375
[Mike Dell]
I can, you know, leave the warts in

518
00:26:04,375 --> 00:26:07,335
[Mike Dell]
and all, as Adam once told me. I

519
00:26:07,335 --> 00:26:10,215
[Mike Dell]
flubbed up a voice memo I was sending

520
00:26:10,215 --> 00:26:12,054
[Mike Dell]
him for his show one time and, I

521
00:26:12,054 --> 00:26:13,335
[Mike Dell]
just left it in there and he said,

522
00:26:13,335 --> 00:26:17,120
[Mike Dell]
Yeah, warts and all. It was kinda cool.

523
00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:21,580
[Mike Dell]
Let's see. Am I getting any, anything going

524
00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:23,580
[Mike Dell]
on here? I'm just looking through some of

525
00:26:23,580 --> 00:26:27,260
[Mike Dell]
the comments. I don't see anything. Of course,

526
00:26:27,260 --> 00:26:29,280
[Mike Dell]
I'm not probably looking in the right places.

527
00:26:30,380 --> 00:26:34,385
[Mike Dell]
But, yeah. It's, you know, podcasting is just

528
00:26:35,245 --> 00:26:38,045
[Mike Dell]
different. And, you know, doing four hundred episodes,

529
00:26:38,045 --> 00:26:40,045
[Mike Dell]
okay, there's people out there that have done

530
00:26:40,045 --> 00:26:43,005
[Mike Dell]
way more episodes than I have in twenty

531
00:26:43,005 --> 00:26:46,240
[Mike Dell]
years. I mean, Todd's up there close to

532
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,440
[Mike Dell]
two thousand episodes. Trucker Tom's well into the

533
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,480
[Mike Dell]
two thousand's. And, he's been at it a

534
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,305
[Mike Dell]
little longer than I have. And, yeah, for

535
00:26:57,305 --> 00:27:00,665
[Mike Dell]
me it's more therapeutic. You know, if I

536
00:27:00,665 --> 00:27:03,705
[Mike Dell]
want to get on and say something, I

537
00:27:03,705 --> 00:27:05,785
[Mike Dell]
can get on and say something. Now, you

538
00:27:05,785 --> 00:27:07,945
[Mike Dell]
know, I bite my tongue probably more than

539
00:27:07,945 --> 00:27:12,330
[Mike Dell]
I ought to. Because, you know, saying something

540
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:17,370
[Mike Dell]
can have consequences. And, I'm not into that.

541
00:27:18,550 --> 00:27:25,524
[Mike Dell]
I have opinions, everybody does. But, the way

542
00:27:25,825 --> 00:27:28,225
[Mike Dell]
you know, if you watch the mainstream news

543
00:27:28,225 --> 00:27:31,184
[Mike Dell]
right now, oh my gosh, you know, you

544
00:27:31,184 --> 00:27:33,024
[Mike Dell]
would think that we're on the brink of

545
00:27:33,024 --> 00:27:35,664
[Mike Dell]
civil war here in the States. And I'm

546
00:27:35,664 --> 00:27:38,879
[Mike Dell]
not finding that to be true. Regardless of

547
00:27:38,879 --> 00:27:41,379
[Mike Dell]
what they say, people are not as divided

548
00:27:42,399 --> 00:27:44,879
[Mike Dell]
as everybody might think if all you do

549
00:27:44,879 --> 00:27:47,440
[Mike Dell]
is watch what the news reporters say or

550
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,095
[Mike Dell]
the so called journalists. And, you know, I

551
00:27:51,095 --> 00:27:54,615
[Mike Dell]
know people from every walk of life. I

552
00:27:54,615 --> 00:27:59,195
[Mike Dell]
know people from every, political background or political

553
00:27:59,255 --> 00:28:02,375
[Mike Dell]
opinions and all that. And I'm friends with

554
00:28:02,375 --> 00:28:06,390
[Mike Dell]
people from every political opinion and all that.

555
00:28:06,390 --> 00:28:08,470
[Mike Dell]
And, you know, we don't have to argue

556
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:12,330
[Mike Dell]
about that stuff. Whatever will happen will happen.

557
00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:16,230
[Mike Dell]
And people are not as divided as you

558
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:19,615
[Mike Dell]
would think. You know, the news, in my

559
00:28:19,615 --> 00:28:21,855
[Mike Dell]
humble opinion, and this is just my opinion,

560
00:28:21,855 --> 00:28:23,695
[Mike Dell]
you can argue with me and that's great.

561
00:28:23,695 --> 00:28:28,495
[Mike Dell]
I welcome, comments to the contrary. But, you

562
00:28:28,495 --> 00:28:30,735
[Mike Dell]
know, what you see in the news is

563
00:28:30,735 --> 00:28:35,320
[Mike Dell]
the worst possible thing. Okay? They do that

564
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,960
[Mike Dell]
on purpose. What bleeds leads, or whatever the

565
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:46,304
[Mike Dell]
saying is. Nobody wants the good news. And

566
00:28:46,304 --> 00:28:48,684
[Mike Dell]
the news is, you know, man bites dog

567
00:28:48,745 --> 00:28:52,764
[Mike Dell]
stories, not the other normal good stuff that

568
00:28:53,945 --> 00:28:57,144
[Mike Dell]
is going on. We went to dinner last

569
00:28:57,144 --> 00:29:00,950
[Mike Dell]
night with family and we've got people from

570
00:29:00,950 --> 00:29:03,610
[Mike Dell]
DC to light as far as political opinions.

571
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:06,070
[Mike Dell]
And we sat around the table and didn't

572
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:08,549
[Mike Dell]
argue about politics. We weren't at each other's

573
00:29:08,549 --> 00:29:10,950
[Mike Dell]
throats. We all loved each other. And, it

574
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:14,455
[Mike Dell]
was all great. And that's how the world

575
00:29:14,455 --> 00:29:19,195
[Mike Dell]
really is. But, if you watch the nightly

576
00:29:19,255 --> 00:29:23,735
[Mike Dell]
scare on the news channels, you're going to

577
00:29:23,735 --> 00:29:26,455
[Mike Dell]
have a warped sense of what's really going

578
00:29:26,455 --> 00:29:29,740
[Mike Dell]
on. I did work in television for a

579
00:29:29,740 --> 00:29:33,180
[Mike Dell]
while, local news. I wasn't on air. I

580
00:29:33,180 --> 00:29:35,340
[Mike Dell]
was, you know, behind the scenes pushing buttons

581
00:29:35,340 --> 00:29:38,080
[Mike Dell]
and whatnot. But, every story that they covered

582
00:29:38,140 --> 00:29:39,980
[Mike Dell]
while I was there that I knew something

583
00:29:39,980 --> 00:29:45,034
[Mike Dell]
about directly without the news had some material

584
00:29:45,095 --> 00:29:46,695
[Mike Dell]
thing wrong with it. And, I've got to

585
00:29:46,695 --> 00:29:50,054
[Mike Dell]
believe that, all of it's that way. You

586
00:29:50,054 --> 00:29:52,375
[Mike Dell]
know, I always like to say that, these

587
00:29:52,375 --> 00:29:55,174
[Mike Dell]
twenty four hour news channels out there, and

588
00:29:55,174 --> 00:29:57,330
[Mike Dell]
it doesn't matter which one it is, there's

589
00:29:57,330 --> 00:29:59,970
[Mike Dell]
not twenty four hours worth of news to

590
00:29:59,970 --> 00:30:02,850
[Mike Dell]
cover. Obviously, they repeat stuff, you know, top

591
00:30:02,850 --> 00:30:05,010
[Mike Dell]
of the hour for five minutes, whatever. And,

592
00:30:05,010 --> 00:30:06,770
[Mike Dell]
but, all the rest of it, they gotta

593
00:30:06,770 --> 00:30:10,304
[Mike Dell]
make stuff up. They have to because there's

594
00:30:10,304 --> 00:30:12,865
[Mike Dell]
just not twenty four hours worth of stuff

595
00:30:12,865 --> 00:30:17,265
[Mike Dell]
to talk about that's relevant. Or, you know,

596
00:30:17,265 --> 00:30:18,865
[Mike Dell]
it used to be the news would tell

597
00:30:18,865 --> 00:30:21,845
[Mike Dell]
you what happened and you got to check

598
00:30:22,304 --> 00:30:24,645
[Mike Dell]
and figure out what you think is true.

599
00:30:24,919 --> 00:30:26,679
[Mike Dell]
Now, they tell you what they want you

600
00:30:26,679 --> 00:30:28,440
[Mike Dell]
to think is truth, and you gotta figure

601
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,240
[Mike Dell]
out whether they're lying or not. So, I

602
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,480
[Mike Dell]
don't know. Anyway, boy, I got off into

603
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:41,424
[Mike Dell]
a weird thing. But, anyhoo, yeah, almost twenty

604
00:30:41,424 --> 00:30:44,865
[Mike Dell]
years. You know, I I remember, you know,

605
00:30:44,865 --> 00:30:48,485
[Mike Dell]
when podcasting we went to that first podcast

606
00:30:48,865 --> 00:30:52,640
[Mike Dell]
conference out in Ontario, California, and it was

607
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,680
[Mike Dell]
like a family reunion. You'd go in there

608
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,920
[Mike Dell]
and, you know, everybody listened to everybody else

609
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,100
[Mike Dell]
or at least had heard of each other.

610
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,200
[Mike Dell]
And, you know, you'd walk up to somebody,

611
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,560
[Mike Dell]
and, hey, I'm so and so. And, you

612
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,895
[Mike Dell]
know, you'd recognize their voice, You'd know all

613
00:31:06,895 --> 00:31:09,055
[Mike Dell]
about them because you'd listened to them. Or,

614
00:31:09,055 --> 00:31:10,895
[Mike Dell]
they knew all about you because they listened

615
00:31:10,895 --> 00:31:15,215
[Mike Dell]
to you. And, you know, now with, you

616
00:31:15,215 --> 00:31:17,855
[Mike Dell]
know, there's some reports there's four million shows

617
00:31:17,855 --> 00:31:23,020
[Mike Dell]
out there, maybe more. Probably more. But, still

618
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,320
[Mike Dell]
great going to these conferences. I went to

619
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,800
[Mike Dell]
Podcast Movement here a couple months ago in

620
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,760
[Mike Dell]
DC. And, I met a whole bunch of

621
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:38,365
[Mike Dell]
people. Down to earth, didn't matter what political

622
00:31:38,505 --> 00:31:43,565
[Mike Dell]
opinion, race, sex, or any of that stuff.

623
00:31:43,705 --> 00:31:47,005
[Mike Dell]
They were just podcasters. And that was great.

624
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,560
[Mike Dell]
You know, age didn't matter. In fact, I

625
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,520
[Mike Dell]
am loving seeing the younger people getting into

626
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,400
[Mike Dell]
both listening and producing podcasts. And, you know,

627
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,015
[Mike Dell]
or videos or both. There's a little argument

628
00:32:01,015 --> 00:32:03,895
[Mike Dell]
amongst the oldsters about what is a podcast,

629
00:32:03,895 --> 00:32:06,935
[Mike Dell]
but, you know, audiences don't care. If you

630
00:32:06,935 --> 00:32:09,015
[Mike Dell]
do a YouTube channel and you call it

631
00:32:09,015 --> 00:32:11,195
[Mike Dell]
a podcast, then okay, call it a podcast.

632
00:32:11,335 --> 00:32:14,030
[Mike Dell]
Nobody really cares. I mean, you know, some

633
00:32:14,030 --> 00:32:16,110
[Mike Dell]
of us that like the technical stuff might,

634
00:32:16,110 --> 00:32:19,790
[Mike Dell]
but, ignore us. Podcast is a podcast is

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[Mike Dell]
a podcast. And, doing content is the whole

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[Mike Dell]
idea. And, in podcasting, there's no real rules.

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[Mike Dell]
There's some standards if you want it to

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[Mike Dell]
be distributed in certain places. Or, if you

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[Mike Dell]
don't want it distributed in certain places, you

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[Mike Dell]
can do whatever you want. And, that's okay.

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[Mike Dell]
So, I think I'm just going to cut

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[Mike Dell]
this off at about half an hour here.

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[Mike Dell]
I don't want to beleaguer it. You know,

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[Mike Dell]
a lot of podcasters say, Well, I want

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[Mike Dell]
my podcast to be exactly an hour. Well,

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[Mike Dell]
if you only have a half hour's worth

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[Mike Dell]
of stuff to talk about, well, don't stretch

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[Mike Dell]
it out. Don't waste people's time. People make

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[Mike Dell]
time to listen to you as a podcaster.

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[Mike Dell]
And, they build you into their schedule. That's

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[Mike Dell]
why consistency is important. I'm consistent about one

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[Mike Dell]
and a half episodes a month. That's not

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[Mike Dell]
consistent. But, that's one of those things that

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[Mike Dell]
people forget, that you don't accidentally listen to

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[Mike Dell]
a podcast in most cases. Yeah, maybe you

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[Mike Dell]
jump in an Uber and somebody's listening to

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[Mike Dell]
a podcast, driving the Uber, whatever, I get

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[Mike Dell]
that. But, you make a conscious choice to

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[Mike Dell]
listen to and or watch a podcast. You

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[Mike Dell]
don't do it by accident. And, so if

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[Mike Dell]
you're making compelling content, or even boring content

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[Mike Dell]
like I'm doing, people will make time for

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[Mike Dell]
it. They may not make time for it

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[Mike Dell]
every week, but, they'll make time for it.

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[Mike Dell]
And, they don't accidentally listen to you. So

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[Mike Dell]
if you ever wanna get into podcasting, hit

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[Mike Dell]
me up. I can help you with that.

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[Mike Dell]
And, otherwise, thanks for hanging out with me.

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[Mike Dell]
And, like I said, I I look forward

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[Mike Dell]
to, another four hundred. Hopefully, it won't take

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[Mike Dell]
me twenty years to do it. Catch me