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S1E29 - Most homeowners don’t realize their house is moving… until it’s too late.
In this conversation, a foundation inspector and professional painter explain what they actually see inside homes — from collapsing basement walls to flipped houses hiding serious problems.
If you own a home, these are the warning signs you should never ignore.
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Phil Linstrom
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Matthew Menge
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Transcript
It all depends on how much damage you have to your home. Sometimes cosmetic Yes. Because half of your home is sinking in one direction. Okay.
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Okay. All right.9 seconds
If you do your job right, like him and I do, the money that you're paying us is actually worth more on your house and on your project than what is sitting in another account.18 seconds
Those cracks upstairs typically start to paint that picture of what's going on with Exactly.25 seconds
Call Phil.32 seconds
We aren't just a video production company. We are business solutiondriven creatives. And this is more than meets the eye.41 seconds
Yo, what's up everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the More Than Meets the Eye podcast where we talk about what's behind a person, a practice, or a50 seconds
product, especially when it comes to marketing. I'm Jared Taylor and I've got my coffee. Actually, it's water this time. I got to drink a lot more water. I want to welcome you to JT Visuals.59 seconds
That's without the eye because there's more than meets the eye. Today we are looking at what's behind a person and some practice within that. We have two1 minute, 8 seconds
very special guests with us today. We got Phil Lindstöm. Phil, tell us about yourself.1 minute, 13 seconds
Phil Lindstöm, owner of Lindstrom Pro Painters, established in 2008. We specialize in wood rot restoration,1 minute, 20 seconds
paint, stains, enamels, uh faux finishes, and uh some artistic paintings. Awesome. And then we got Matthew Mingi.1 minute, 28 seconds
Yes, my name is Matthew Mingi. I'm with Foundation Recovery Systems. We we've been in the area since 1992. I'm a certified field inspector. And so we1 minute, 37 seconds
just we're a specialty contractor. We focus on foundation repair, um crawl space repair, waterproofing of basements, and then concrete lifting as well.1 minute, 46 seconds
So if you're into trades and home services, then this one is definitely it for you. But even if you're not, we got looking at a little bit of the personal1 minute, 54 seconds
side of what's behind you guys um and what gets you going. So, do you got an answer to that, Phil? What is it that gets you up? Why do you do what you do?2 minutes, 3 seconds
Hey, sorry to interrupt, but Joe, you got something on your chest?2 minutes, 7 seconds
When I failed my first eight business, I chocked it up to a couple of things.2 minutes, 12 seconds
Number one, I was very proud and I didn't learn how to build a business.2 minutes, 16 seconds
But the second thing I realized is I didn't go to school for this. And it's fun to try to figure things out and explore, but then there comes a point2 minutes, 24 seconds
where you're like, "Wait, hold on. What are all the other successful business owners doing?" We've provided something for you if you feel the same exact way.2 minutes, 33 seconds
We've provided school sk entrepreneur experience where you can actually have free content and a community of people that are also in2 minutes, 42 seconds
there that are entrepreneurs that love to give feedback and ask for feedback.2 minutes, 46 seconds
If you don't feel like you have the resources enough to help you become successful, join our school. It starts for free. So, what are you waiting for?2 minutes, 54 seconds
Go to jtvvisuals.com/school.2 minutes, 57 seconds
That's jt visuals without the i. And that's school with a K. Now, back to the show. What is it that gets you up? Why do you do what you do?3 minutes, 5 seconds
The first time when when I painted a wall, you know, I I really put my heart into it and I recognized I was better at it than most and that was that was kind of my calling. And um ever since then,3 minutes, 17 seconds
every day since then when I have painted, I've wanted to do it better than that, you know. That's that's kind of my challenge, you know.3 minutes, 23 seconds
So um I recognize that at a very young age, you know, when I was doing that, I started painting when I was 20. Uh what the industry standards were then and I3 minutes, 32 seconds
was rather disappointed and I have to kind of admit that that the paint trade has come a long way in a lot of different ways in 26 years.3 minutes, 40 seconds
So that's awesome. And what about you, Matthew? How did you get into this?3 minutes, 45 seconds
No. Uh, it wasn't anything like that. I didn't have an epiphany painting a wall. Uh, Phil's much better at that than me.3 minutes, 52 seconds
He's even got paint on his hands right now as we sit here, uh, filming this.3 minutes, 57 seconds
No. Uh, I actually I get the privilege of actually leading a jail ministry and I go into the county jail every week.4 minutes, 4 seconds
And so I kind of uh, get to go in and help those that are hurting fix their foundation. And so kind of on the4 minutes, 12 seconds
cross-section of that, I was in the position with my dad. We were selling a company and I was looking for something new to do.4 minutes, 20 seconds
It aligned with my calling just like Phil to be able to go into homes and actually uh see those people that are kind of stressed out about their4 minutes, 28 seconds
foundation and I get to help them fix that um position of their house in a uh different way from a caring spot. And4 minutes, 37 seconds
you know, it's not that I sought this profession out. It just aligned with the calling that I was already living out.4 minutes, 45 seconds
Which that that reminds me like all of us now are living out our calling through our profession, which is really cool. But what about those that don't4 minutes, 53 seconds
know? Like can you go back to your side of your story when you started to realize, man, I was meant for this because of XYZ?5 minutes, 2 seconds
Yeah. you know, whenever I I talk to the youth, you know, like you have people in your family or your children you're raising and yeah, there's there's all5 minutes, 10 seconds
this pressure on, you know, going to college, you know, where's the money at? How you going to take care of yourself?5 minutes, 15 seconds
And I feel like a lot of people get derailed and distracted of the beauty in life and just like falling in love of what you do, you know? So, I'll5 minutes, 24 seconds
I'll tell them, you know, if you fall in love with something, it doesn't matter like how simple it is. It could be like making pencils. It could be drawing5 minutes, 31 seconds
pictures. It could be making mugs. It could be learning how to talk to people and and you know, stuff like that, doing videos and traveling the globe. Well,5 minutes, 39 seconds
whatever it is, if you fall in love with that and that is your thing, you'll be great at it.5 minutes, 43 seconds
Eventually, you'll and then you learn eventually you'll Yeah, you you'll make money doing it because I mean, the industry is there to take care of you if5 minutes, 51 seconds
you make that great no matter how simple it is. Yeah, that's awesome. Excellent. Yeah.5 minutes, 56 seconds
You got any more for was it kind of the same for you or Yeah, exactly. Um, I have children and I want them to experience a lot of things6 minutes, 3 seconds
rather than than just focus on one thing that they say they like. Um, ultimately they may like one thing but something an6 minutes, 11 seconds
aspect of that activity may broaden their horizons to something else. Uh, as a kid, I was involved in a lot of6 minutes, 18 seconds
construction and so I can speak that to homeowners, but ultimately it's the almost care and compassion behind um to6 minutes, 26 seconds
help those homeowners with the anxiety and and just putting facts behind that to calm their emotions is the other side that some other people are looking for6 minutes, 35 seconds
in an inspector when they're um really dealing with large financial potential financial consequences um in a6 minutes, 44 seconds
project. So that's cool. You're like it's it's more than just a home service. Yeah.6 minutes, 49 seconds
It's actually like a home solution. We we have a core value at JT Visuals where we say solutions over services because we're not here to just hit record.6 minutes, 58 seconds
Yeah.6 minutes, 59 seconds
We want to actually make sure you're doing all the things to get the best results and we're solutiondriven creatives here to help the business.7 minutes, 9 seconds
Because if we don't fit into the piece of the puzzle, even though we could take their money and record, we have a really hard time accepting that.7 minutes, 18 seconds
Yeah.7 minutes, 18 seconds
So, we try to qualify to make sure this can actually work for people. And that's what I'm hearing from you guys, too, is that in your home service, what you do with the painting and the foundation,7 minutes, 29 seconds
you're helping people. You're not there just to do a craft or a task, right? Yeah. So in in my industry, you know,7 minutes, 38 seconds
you have you have the paint providers,7 minutes, 40 seconds
you you have the unions, and then you have the other company owners kind of like myself. And that's what controls the the environment of of the finances.7 minutes, 51 seconds
And I I recognized right away when I was younger that my philosophies behind the the standards of what we were doing was8 minutes
going to change industry a little bit and it was probably going to cost me a little bit more labor, you know, a little bit more materials because I want to do things so great,8 minutes, 7 seconds
you know, but I've always thought like how do I help this homeowner, this client uh make the best most educated8 minutes, 14 seconds
decision that they can even in some situation circumstances that might not have even been me, you know, and that's a very difficult thing to do. say, "Hey,8 minutes, 21 seconds
look, you know, this project's not and doesn't align completely what we do,8 minutes, 25 seconds
what we're great at. This might be better for somebody else."8 minutes, 27 seconds
But yeah, I I'm always trying to do things great. And and sometimes clients aren't always looking for that either,8 minutes, 33 seconds
you know, especially when we have an area like Kansas City where a lot of homes are getting flipped all the time and a lot of it's just kind of like, hey, we're just trying to sell it type,8 minutes, 42 seconds
you know, type style or philosophy. So,8 minutes, 46 seconds
I know that I'll definitely tell homeowners that they may not like what I'm telling them, and they may want to kick me out of their home because of what I'm telling them, but I'm going to8 minutes, 54 seconds
tell them the facts rather than just an opinion about their home. Because ultimately, you don't want to base a repair off an opinion of mine. You'd9 minutes, 2 seconds
rather have facts behind what's actually taking place in the home. And that's how we can actually build up a project to fix your home for a long term.9 minutes, 9 seconds
Yeah. Wow. That's incredible. So, you both found what you enjoy doing and then9 minutes, 16 seconds
you found a little bit of a deeper desire, meaning like it's about you, but it's not about you, right?9 minutes, 24 seconds
So, when you when you figure out what you love and what you do, the next step is usually figure out how that can help other people. and not just help them,9 minutes, 37 seconds
but also it's something they need. And sometimes you got to do what you want to get to what they need9 minutes, 44 seconds
or what they want to get to what they need. You know what I'm saying?9 minutes, 48 seconds
Yeah. There's there's definitely a compromise there. Yeah.9 minutes, 50 seconds
Cuz every home or every project I show up to, I'm like, I want to make this like a polished diamond. You come sad to like, you know, please people have financed. And you know, a lot of times I9 minutes, 57 seconds
do get that, right? But, you know, but you still sometimes you do have to to cut some corners and you have to make a compromise like, okay, finances equal this, which is still a great project.10 minutes, 6 seconds
But I I think of like hair hair salon people for some reason and that like all the girls want to like dye their hair, but they have like extremely dark hair and10 minutes, 14 seconds
they want to make it blonde or something. So while there are methods,10 minutes, 17 seconds
it's like how damaging do you want this to be? Like is it really about looks at this or like so then you got to navigate that how good you want to look versus10 minutes, 26 seconds
how good you actually are? And I feel like well really yours cuz painting dude this would be a good segue for painting10 minutes, 33 seconds
cuz I've been learning this is that painting is more than just cosmetic.10 minutes, 37 seconds
Oh yeah it's very functional. You know in interior it's uh it's functional where you know the light you want to to bounce off walls correctly and you know10 minutes, 46 seconds
touching surfaces you know they get used more often. You know you got to pay attention to those. But, you know, on exteriors, yeah, it's all about10 minutes, 52 seconds
longevity with with the cocking and making sure things are adhesed right and the right right thickness of10 minutes, 59 seconds
applications and um yeah, and making sure the water's running off the way it's supposed to and where's that going to happen around gutters and down spouts11 minutes, 7 seconds
and stuff. So, um it's definitely different,11 minutes, 9 seconds
you know, interior to exterior. It's a completely different philosophy.11 minutes, 12 seconds
Yeah. And that could be a problem because we could be painting an exterior for a person who's um relatively picky about textures and they'll almost want a11 minutes, 21 seconds
level four or five finish, you know, on the texture on the exterior of their house. Now, that's that's very difficult to do because then you're leaving behind11 minutes, 29 seconds
less material because you're trying to apply less to make it look better. Does that make sense? But then you run into,11 minutes, 36 seconds
you know, ceiling problems and longevity problems. So you have to really educate them like okay what's going to be your philosophy here because this might not11 minutes, 44 seconds
last five or six years if we're micro coating these areas to make them look good versus hey we're doing something to you know encapsulize everything that's in here and keep the water and rain out.11 minutes, 53 seconds
That's what that's what someone was showing me the other day when I was like I was like filming an exterior of the house and then they're like um see paint12 minutes, 1 second
has more than just the cosmetic on the exterior. It's to help keep things sealed so that water doesn't enter and12 minutes, 8 seconds
all that. So now we're getting into the overlap of inspections and water control, water damage, like so you both12 minutes, 17 seconds
like really overlap there so much, but what about like cosmetic? Is there anything cosmetic with like your role or is it all just function?12 minutes, 26 seconds
It all depends on how much damage you have to your home. Sometimes cosmetic,12 minutes, 30 seconds
yes, because half of your home is sinking in one direction. Okay.12 minutes, 34 seconds
Okay. All right. But ultimately, I walk into a home and I I tell homeowners I'm not coming in to bring them a cool red Corvette or a hot tub. And so, I'm not12 minutes, 43 seconds
that that type of inspector or have that type of product for them. But ultimately, just like Phil was talking about, some homeowners are extremely12 minutes, 51 seconds
detailed about the cracks in their walls and they never want them to return. And so, we have solutions to where that can take place. But ultimately, other times,12 minutes, 59 seconds
homeowners just want to fix the problem at hand. and they don't care about anything that may take place in the future in another spot of their home.13 minutes, 6 seconds
So, it it goes back to the education. Am I actually telling the homeowner um exactly what's going to fix their13 minutes, 13 seconds
problem now, but also what I see based off of my experience that will take place in the future? And it could be based off of the watershed off the home,13 minutes, 22 seconds
the gutters and the downspouts, possibly even the grading that's taking place in small amounts right now that will will lead to something in the future later.13 minutes, 33 seconds
Yeah, man. So, when you were talking about there could be a house that's completely sideways and that's not that's an eyesore, but it's an isore because we see the danger of that,13 minutes, 43 seconds
right? So, I'm wondering what about like what's what's some of the worst situations that you can share that you've walked into?13 minutes, 53 seconds
This was maybe a month ago and uh I was in a home in uh Kansas City and I was14 minutes, 1 second
sitting I typically walk into the home and I I sit down and ask some questions in the living room just about the history of the home. So, that better um14 minutes, 9 seconds
leads me in my inspection because if we're going to lift a home and you just install new windows, I don't want to lift the house cuz I'm going to bust all your windows.14 minutes, 19 seconds
But, um I was sitting here with this homeowner in the living room and he starts talking about the wall just leaning in a little bit and he thinks14 minutes, 28 seconds
it's just cosmetic. And the more he talks about it, I just stopped my questioning and I said, "Why don't we just go take a look at this wall?" So14 minutes, 37 seconds
this wall was actually directly under us in the living room and the entire wall had collapsed in. He we got downstairs14 minutes, 44 seconds
and he said, "It's cosmetic, right?" I said, "No, all of your blocks are on the floor and you have dirt and water in your basement right here."14 minutes, 53 seconds
It's cosmetic and more.14 minutes, 54 seconds
Yes, exactly. He said, "Well, the uh the city water guy, they had a water mane break and they came in and shut the uh15 minutes, 2 seconds
water off downstairs." And he said there was a problem, but he said it's mainly cosmetic. This is cosmetic, right? I said, "No, no, no. This is past what?15 minutes, 11 seconds
This is more than that. Yes. This needs to be dug out. Was this man in danger or something?"15 minutes, 17 seconds
The floor that you were on. Like I told him not to sit on that couch anymore. Oh my gosh. Don't even sit on the couch here.15 minutes, 26 seconds
Yeah. Another one I was in uh just last week um was in a home that uh was15 minutes, 33 seconds
actually a rental. The person had passed away, so they were getting ready to change um uh tenants and they were doing15 minutes, 41 seconds
it. I was doing an inspection so we can get some um things taken care of before they actually rerent it. And in the basement, one of the walls was actually15 minutes, 50 seconds
leaning in 5 1/2 in. Well, if you think about a concrete wall, it's 8 in wide. The center of gravity is at 4 in. So,15 minutes, 58 seconds
after it's at 4 in, it's very probable that it's going to fall in. So, it is 5 and 1/2 in. So, I told the owner who was16 minutes, 6 seconds
going to be renting this back out, do not rent this back out. Even if you don't do work with us, get this wall pulled back and fixed, repaired16 minutes, 15 seconds
correctly, so it does not fall and collapse when somebody's actually here.16 minutes, 19 seconds
If somebody has their child downstairs and it collapses. Oh my goodness. That's horrible. Yeah. You have a very important job. Yeah.16 minutes, 27 seconds
Man.16 minutes, 28 seconds
Dang. Okay, Phil. All right, moving it over.16 minutes, 30 seconds
So, I had a I had a client a couple years ago. I think it was like 204.16 minutes, 36 seconds
They live, you know, right here in Lee Summit. And they had they had an issue during the drought where their their basement floor had cracked. And I mean16 minutes, 45 seconds
there's like a two-inch gap in their basement before they ran through their whole house. And when you went upstairs, you could see that even the walls16 minutes, 53 seconds
were shifted and there's cracks in the walls everywhere. It was it was one of the wallest things I've ever seen. But that's probably nothing compared to some of the stuff. Yeah. I thought that was bad. I mean, not only was the floor17 minutes, 2 seconds
cracked like this, I mean, one side of it was like up higher than than the other. So yeah, it was pretty pretty.17 minutes, 9 seconds
Have you ever Okay, actually going back now. Now I'm like, have you ever walked up to a house and you just went, "Nope." And turn around or or like felt like,17 minutes, 18 seconds
"Man, am I going to die?17 minutes, 21 seconds
Am I going to die?" Or like there's a there's a movie I saw. I forgot what it's called, but there's something actually living down in the sub sub17 minutes, 28 seconds
basement and it's actually a big chamber of Yeah, that's dark stuff. And then like MMA Mumbo the whole time. If someone17 minutes, 36 seconds
knows that movie then put it in the comments. Comment below.17 minutes, 40 seconds
Um Yeah. Have you like seen any like weird like So yeah, I've gone into a lot of homes.17 minutes, 45 seconds
Typically they're the older ones where homeowners have been there for 40 to 50 years. It's not necessarily that the17 minutes, 52 seconds
home is bad if it was empty, but people accumulate a lot of stuff. Ah,17 minutes, 57 seconds
and so it becomes full of uh I was in I was in a basement and they hadn't been down there for a long time. There was a18 minutes, 4 seconds
dead raccoon in a live cage that was trapped in a cage. They they knew they had troubles because the wall was leaning in18 minutes, 12 seconds
and so animals could get up over the wall, over the seal plate, and they had someone put traps down there, but uh it cost money for them to come back and18 minutes, 20 seconds
take the animals out of there, so they so they left them. Oh my goodness.18 minutes, 24 seconds
And so you definitely find some interesting thing. Yeah, it unfortunately it was a situation of smell. Oh man.18 minutes, 33 seconds
Oh man.18 minutes, 33 seconds
Yeah, but but it's not typically a situation where it's like, "Oh, we can't fix this. I want to leave. It's interesting when you start to have18 minutes, 41 seconds
foundation added on foundation added on foundation. You have an old stone slab or stone walls and then somebody builds18 minutes, 48 seconds
maybe a crawl space out of block and then there's a um a concrete slab on the side of that and you have everything playing together and ultimately they're18 minutes, 57 seconds
all shifting and settling at different rates and it unfortunately a lot of times the cost to fix it is more than19 minutes, 4 seconds
the home's value. Uh, and so it's breaking it to the homeowner of we can fix this, but ultimately, do you want to19 minutes, 13 seconds
fix this? How long are you going to be living here? Is it even wise to do this?19 minutes, 17 seconds
I was at a home recently and it was a a guy who was 87 years old. Fantastic place close by here. And he said, um,19 minutes, 26 seconds
that after I sell this, the buyers are going to separate my home from my two shops. So, they're going to tear my19 minutes, 33 seconds
shops down and then sell them for home builds. And we were in his shop looking at lifting concrete. And he was 87 years19 minutes, 41 seconds
old. And I said, "Maybe it's not wise to lift this concrete if you're not out here that often. And this is going to19 minutes, 49 seconds
get torn down if you decide to sell next year."19 minutes, 53 seconds
Yeah, man. All right, Phil. Can you top that?19 minutes, 57 seconds
Well, I I got a little bit of a feel good story. I I'll make it short, but uh a couple years ago, we had a we had a family that had some squirrels.20 minutes, 5 seconds
They had nests or squirrels. Squirrels. Squirrels. Squirrels.20 minutes, 9 seconds
Oh, I thought you said scrolls. Like you found the Dead Sea Scrolls. You found some more trans transcripts of the Bible. That'd be cool.20 minutes, 17 seconds
Yeah. So, some squirrels. Okay.20 minutes, 18 seconds
Squirrels were in the set and we had to do a repair there because there's a large hole. So, yeah. I I extracted the20 minutes, 25 seconds
piece and she made her way out. Well, we know it was she, okay? Because after I made the repair, well, we found out that she had nested in there,20 minutes, 34 seconds
babies, and the babies were stuck in the sophet.20 minutes, 37 seconds
And I didn't find out till like 4 days later. Okay, so look, for 4 days, I'm painting around this house. And this mama squirrel is like in my ear20 minutes, 46 seconds
constantly, like 10 ft away. Yeah. Feed my babies.20 minutes, 49 seconds
I have I have videos of this. I can find it. I need to post it. That's freaking wild. Yeah. So, for like three or four days, she's like crying at me and I'm like, "What is your freaking problem?"20 minutes, 58 seconds
And fair enough, you know, the client, you know, one morning, she's like,21 minutes, 1 second
"Yeah, we think we still hear something in there." So, I went and I paid attention to that spot. And sure enough,21 minutes, 6 seconds
right there where I fixed it, all the babies made themselves to that corner.21 minutes, 10 seconds
And when I was in that area, mom was like, "Yes, that's it." She was like celebrating, running around in a circle.21 minutes, 16 seconds
Yes. It was the wildest thing ever. So I opened up the soffet and you know gave her some space and one by one she went in there she grabbed each one of them and she carried them up a tree and she carried them out # Phil saves squirrels.21 minutes, 28 seconds
Wow, right? Yeah, that's pretty well.21 minutes, 30 seconds
Well, that sounds like a a condition there and a good story. Yeah, good job. That school's your dead. But Phil,21 minutes, 38 seconds
savior of squirrels. Yeah,21 minutes, 40 seconds
sir. The protector squirrels in your Yeah. in your industry and in what you21 minutes, 47 seconds
see, what are the most common misconceptions about Oh, you know, God, I got that one. I got this nailed.21 minutes, 57 seconds
Why do you brush and roll? Why do you spray? You know, what's better, brushing and rolling and spraying? And um that that's Is it a big depends answer?22 minutes, 7 seconds
It's a big depends. Yeah. because every exterior surface is different depending on what kind of signing you have whether it's stucco whether it's rough cedar with you know we even do bricks and22 minutes, 15 seconds
rocks and stones and stuff and um there's a a reason that there are so many tools that apply paint so there's22 minutes, 22 seconds
not just one answer for for everything in every scenario in every situation what's one specific one okay well if you if you want a surface22 minutes, 30 seconds
really smooth like a car okay and you want to put as much paint on as possible you use the airless because is under low22 minutes, 38 seconds
pressure, you can keep applying to the maximum point where that paint hangs onto itself and it won't sag. Okay? On a22 minutes, 45 seconds
smooth surface, when you're using a tool like a brush or a roller pad and you go to apply on a smooth surface, those bristles are going through the paint22 minutes, 54 seconds
down to the surface you're trying to apply to and it leaves behind less amount of an application of paint.23 minutes, 1 second
If it's a rough surface, it's the other way around because the bristles and the roller pads will push and maneuver the23 minutes, 8 seconds
paint down into those little pits, those crevices, and you're able to apply more paint that way. And airless under low pressure won't be able to move the paint23 minutes, 17 seconds
into all those little tiny orphices in those cracks. Okay?23 minutes, 20 seconds
You know, cuz it's hard to get it from every direction. It just sits there and it it it bags on.23 minutes, 24 seconds
And is airless like a like a type of spray?23 minutes, 26 seconds
It's a hydraulic pump that runs through hydraulic line that runs to through a stainless steel tip.23 minutes, 31 seconds
And we have different size tips and orphices and pressures that we run for each material. Yeah. Yeah. So, there there's that. You know, I I get in some23 minutes, 39 seconds
areas and people become really opinionated on, hey, you know, I want my house brush and rolled and and I'll I'll be like that. Whoever's been telling me that it's like for your application,23 minutes, 48 seconds
that's totally. So, I'm Yeah. Yeah. It's I'm educating people all the time on where and what to use, you know, what situation.23 minutes, 55 seconds
Do you ever do like a power washing or anything like that? Oh, yeah. 100%. Yeah.23 minutes, 59 seconds
Is that part of your scope of work or is it just something you have to do to paint exteriors, driveways? Yeah. Um garage24 minutes, 7 seconds
garage floors. Yeah. They all get power washed. Oh, sweet. Yeah.24 minutes, 10 seconds
You do like epoxy in the garages and all that.24 minutes, 12 seconds
Yeah, we do some of that stuff too with the flake. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. Oh, cool.24 minutes, 15 seconds
It's believe it or not, it's it's really timeconuming. Um but it's one of the easiest things that we actually do because it's on the freaking ground.24 minutes, 22 seconds
So, you know, these companies I think I'm going to blurt. I think they're seriously overcharging for a lot of these epoxy garage floors.24 minutes, 30 seconds
So, they're overcharging. Yeah. But people are buying, right?24 minutes, 34 seconds
Yes. So then are they overcharging if people are buying? But what would be your message? Like hey, we can do it for less or like24 minutes, 42 seconds
my message would be maybe get with one of the suppliers and talk to them about what they think it should cost, you know, the supplier of the material that they're they're wanting to apply.24 minutes, 51 seconds
They don't know that because most people just call and they want someone to deal with all that, right? Yeah, you're right. Or just call Phil, get it half price. Half price, Phil.24 minutes, 59 seconds
That that's about exactly where we are right now. Really? Is that really like So they're about 50% older.25 minutes, 5 seconds
Yes. 20 $30,000 garage floors and you know I'm doing them for Yeah. half of that. Why don't you just join them?25 minutes, 11 seconds
Because that's not that's not my philosophy. It's just to make money. It's to, you know, take care of people.25 minutes, 17 seconds
And if I'm if I'm making enough, you know, what my business needs to bring in and it's easier on my guys. We're not climbing like 40 50 60 feet up an air,25 minutes, 25 seconds
whatever it is. That's just like I don't have a problem with that. And you're one of those guys that feels like you scored like Yeah, I saved that, man.25 minutes, 34 seconds
It's not exactly like diamond in the rough of like Aladdin,25 minutes, 39 seconds
but it does feel like the needle of the hay stack in a good way. Like, but that's what you seem like is like that kind of person like, man,25 minutes, 47 seconds
there there are good people who truly just care about results. Oh, yeah.25 minutes, 50 seconds
And they're not there to nickel and dime you. They're there to produce good artistic work and make sure that you're satisfied25 minutes, 59 seconds
and that it solved your your real problem. Like maybe you want a wall like this. But also if he's talking about something else, he you'll cuz I've worked with you and and you'll be like,26 minutes, 10 seconds
"Well, actually, what about this?" Because then this and you leave it open.26 minutes, 17 seconds
What I would do is suggest this and like you give your true expertise in a way of care, not in a way of like gaining it some sale and gotcha.26 minutes, 25 seconds
I appreciate that recognition, Jared. You're really good at that.26 minutes, 28 seconds
Yeah, my my heart really is just this big, you know, for for treating people right, you know, we're not here to to26 minutes, 35 seconds
gouge anybody, you know. I I I do all my estimates the same. If it takes this many days, this is what it costs for my company to be with you and your project26 minutes, 43 seconds
for a day, you know, plus the cost of materials. Um, if the risk is ridiculously high and we need all this special protective equipment, you know,26 minutes, 50 seconds
okay, that does apply. Okay, we get it. I mean, if the risk is astronomical,26 minutes, 54 seconds
anybody's well-being and the VOCC's, you know what I mean? There there's a cost for that, too.26 minutes, 58 seconds
Right. Exactly. 100%. So, and and and I do that for for every estimate. It it doesn't change because like we go to,27 minutes, 5 seconds
you know, the floor epoxy industry and I recognize that, hey, you know, I could charge double for this. You know, I I just I just don't believe in that,27 minutes, 12 seconds
you know. It's it's my company does what it does. And uh you know, we get paid.27 minutes, 16 seconds
We get paid, you know, regardless of what we're doing.27 minutes, 18 seconds
You're really increasing the value of Kansas City homes. Like seriously,27 minutes, 23 seconds
I've filmed some things, guys. So, like I All right, I'm I'm screwing myself in the future, but I got to set up a system to do this. So,27 minutes, 33 seconds
when you see this on a social media clip, comment the word paint and I will DM you a link to one of his like one of27 minutes, 41 seconds
the most colorful houses in Kansas City that you guys have really been a part of. Oh, Harris Park. Yeah.27 minutes, 48 seconds
Yeah. And it was it's phenomenal. It's become real well known. And I went out and I filmed them and they talked a little more about it.27 minutes, 55 seconds
Yeah. So, we have a home in in Harris Park owned by Mike and Kristen Marshall.27 minutes, 59 seconds
I I deem it to be probably the most decorated home in all Kansas City. Um it's a style.28 minutes, 5 seconds
It is a style. Yeah. The home I think is like I think a total of like 15 colors,28 minutes, 9 seconds
something like that with these magnificent florals that go around all all four sides of it. Yeah. I think we're at that home for I think almost 6 months.28 minutes, 20 seconds
Yeah. Fox 4 almost covered it. They're they're getting ready to make their way over there and I think you do some film footage and I I I didn't make it over there that day. So Oh, no. I know. What a good opportunity,28 minutes, 31 seconds
man.28 minutes, 31 seconds
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're we're sending emails. Yeah. You get one chance at that and I I think I screwed that up.28 minutes, 36 seconds
But Paul Helmer was with us and he's very particular in the colors and stuff and he actually was someone that noticed28 minutes, 43 seconds
in cameras the color science is different than what you see with your naked eye.28 minutes, 49 seconds
It's very different. But I usually go in and I correct that and I got it to a point where I mute usually reds like28 minutes, 57 seconds
they they almost become pink if you will for in the camera. So I am I've dove29 minutes, 5 seconds
into what they call a colorist where you're really tweaking just those very very specific things and I had it to a29 minutes, 14 seconds
decent working spot that's more cinematic but cinematic doesn't mean it represents the colors well. and he actually saw that and then he came in29 minutes, 22 seconds
and what's funny is I don't know if he remembers this but he came in and looked on the computer and I worked on it with him and he's like at the end we got done29 minutes, 31 seconds
he's like you are an artist cuz he was almost dissing on like we're not a true artist when we do this stuff but then29 minutes, 39 seconds
later I won him over by just showing him that that I can actually see the detail of color and all that. Um and I thought that was just so funny. Anyways, that's29 minutes, 46 seconds
an amazing thing guys. So, let us know in the comments, uh, YouTube or wherever you are, wherever you're listening. Um,29 minutes, 52 seconds
just put in the word paint and then we'll send you that video.29 minutes, 55 seconds
Yeah. So, you're talking about Paul Helmer, and you're probably going to meet him pretty soon. I bring an iron once in a while. So, Paul Helmer, Touch30 minutes, 2 seconds
of Distinction, is my business partner when it comes to our more artistic projects. And, uh, yeah, if if you want30 minutes, 10 seconds
to just go ahead and and look up Touch of Distinction, um, talk about an awesome historical company. It's like what Catholic church have you not painted?30 minutes, 21 seconds
Yeah. Yeah. We've done we've done quite a few. Yeah. Yep. Dude is phenomenal. Thanks. To toot your horn, you know.30 minutes, 29 seconds
Okay. We were on misconceptions, Matthew. Yeah. Misconceptions.30 minutes, 33 seconds
What do you What do you have that are common misconceptions when someone's I don't know, maybe setting up an inspection or what other inspectors get wrong?30 minutes, 43 seconds
Oh, yeah. Usually.30 minutes, 45 seconds
Okay. Well, one thing that we talked about flipping houses earlier and so there's a lot of flipped houses in30 minutes, 51 seconds
Kansas City and we assume that um if you're buying a flipped house and um it had a home inspection done on it31 minutes
previously, the homeowner kind of thinks that the foundation is good and there's31 minutes, 7 seconds
nothing to worry about. And so they're kind of interested or curious why their doors are now sticking 6 months into31 minutes, 15 seconds
their new home and these new cracks are appearing. Well, because unfortunately a lot of times when homes are flipped or31 minutes, 22 seconds
when basement is basement uh freshly finished prior to you buying the home, a lot of times they're covering up work31 minutes, 29 seconds
that they don't want to tell you about before uh actually buying the home. So,31 minutes, 34 seconds
a a misconception could be that homes move. It you know, homeowners know that that homes are always moving. Uh, also31 minutes, 42 seconds
sometimes that uh if you peer or stop a section of your home from moving, it doesn't mean the other section of your home isn't going to move at some point.31 minutes, 52 seconds
So, I always kind of joke with homeowners that um your home should have been peered all the way around when it was built. It was not because it was too32 minutes
much money and the person building that home doesn't want to add another 60 to $100,000 to to the sale of the home32 minutes, 9 seconds
because after they get their money from selling the home, they're not there 30 years later when the home starts to settle. We're32 minutes, 16 seconds
typically going in a home 25 to 30 years after it's been built. It's like that's your problem to deal with. Exactly. After we pass this transaction.32 minutes, 24 seconds
And so when you're buying a home, kind of think about the age. Has it had previous foundation work done or is it in that 25 to 30 year um age range? Is32 minutes, 34 seconds
it going to start moving? It's nice. Um I I walk through homes and inspect them with a bright flashlight. Nothing fancy,32 minutes, 41 seconds
but a lot of times I'll have a a wife or a husband with me and we'll be seeing um in their new home above doors there were32 minutes, 48 seconds
cracks, but the flashlight just shows that they were patched. Phil may be able to do it to where I can't tell that they're patched, but other people just32 minutes, 57 seconds
spackling above the door and then putting new paint up, you can tell that that's, you know, a red flag that something's been taking that's been moving.33 minutes, 6 seconds
And so once we come in and do our measurements uh in the basement to actually see where the home's settling at, those cracks upstairs typically33 minutes, 15 seconds
start to paint that picture of what's going on with the home. Exactly. Call Phil.33 minutes, 23 seconds
There we go. We'll just wingman everyone else. Exactly. Call Phil. Yeah, call Phil. Okay. So, but ultimately, unfortunately,33 minutes, 30 seconds
um if your home's not built on bedrock,33 minutes, 32 seconds
it's going to be moving around. You want to stabilize it to bedrock, so it's not moving around.33 minutes, 38 seconds
Now, I was just picturing Minecraft. I just got to interrupt a little. Yeah, sure. My kids are so into that. Uh lava chicken. Yeah, lava. Do you know that?33 minutes, 46 seconds
No, your kids are too old.33 minutes, 48 seconds
His kids are too old. Mine are Mine are the right age.33 minutes, 50 seconds
Oh, yeah. Oh, this is 20 chicken. They actually tried to make real lava chicken. They experimented with it and it was nearly impossible whatever33 minutes, 58 seconds
they could try because it would just 11year-old said it was impossible. I thought it could be possible.34 minutes, 3 seconds
Yeah. Well, I mean, you should watch it and then maybe if you're an engineer,34 minutes, 6 seconds
try and do it differently than them. But you have to make an major investment in your home if needed, right? Um $100,000 on some of these homes.34 minutes, 16 seconds
If you've been in a home for 20 something years in Kansas City, if you go and you look at a graph and what our34 minutes, 23 seconds
homes were worth back then in comparison to now, I mean, the values people Yeah. The values in Kansas City34 minutes, 30 seconds
have really gone up. I mean, even during co even Yeah. with with all the things that have happened that as long as you're taking care of them,34 minutes, 38 seconds
they're going up,34 minutes, 39 seconds
right? So, I mean, is that is that a is that a a way for you to uh convey value to your clients to say, "Hey, you know,34 minutes, 46 seconds
this is worth this now." You It might not have been x amount of years ago, but now you're you're vested here and you're they bought their property for, you know, two or $300,000 now. So, homes are five,34 minutes, 56 seconds
six, $700,000 now in certain parts of the city, you know.35 minutes
So, from that standpoint, it's just like it's a no-brainer now. Yeah. to uh make a responsible investment in your house,35 minutes, 7 seconds
whether it's that or whether it's painting or Yeah. And then we hear that well like we hear that it's like a good value, but how do you actually know this is a true35 minutes, 15 seconds
question like how do you actually know something is a true value? What do we look at?35 minutes, 20 seconds
Well, most homeowners, at least in our industry, will get three bids.35 minutes, 26 seconds
And so a lot of times and potentially in the paint field as well, three bids is just kind of what you're grown up uh35 minutes, 33 seconds
taught to do. And so when you're talking about a company, we value can be in many different forms. Maybe it's just price,35 minutes, 41 seconds
maybe it's the way a project's done,35 minutes, 43 seconds
maybe it's how you feel during the project being done, or maybe it's the lasting results afterwards. But um I35 minutes, 51 seconds
know we have lifetime warranties on a lot of our repairs. I always kind of joke with a homeowner that a lifetime warranty doesn't mean anything if I go35 minutes, 58 seconds
out of business next year. And so you also need that value of long-term company history to be able to back that up.36 minutes, 8 seconds
And so if that company cannot back that up and they're selling you a project for $100,000 and it goes bad in two years,36 minutes, 16 seconds
who's there to come back out to actually look at it?36 minutes, 20 seconds
We try to be proactive rather than reactive. So, we're actually going back out to each of our projects for the first five years on the anniversary. So,36 minutes, 28 seconds
every year for the first five years,36 minutes, 30 seconds
we're going back out to look at that project to verify that there's no movement. Exactly.36 minutes, 35 seconds
So, there's a brand promise there really.36 minutes, 36 seconds
Exactly. And and so we can also go out to a home and notice that maybe a corner of your home is settling right now and36 minutes, 44 seconds
you want to go ahead and tackle that. It may be settling a couple couple inches.36 minutes, 48 seconds
we go ahead and fix that right now, but also your garage is starting to settle as well and you know that well I don't really want to invest everything right36 minutes, 56 seconds
now. So next year our service techs come out and they're able to take a look at our measurements a year previous and to see if there's been any changes in that.37 minutes, 6 seconds
You may have been in your home five or six years and not have seen any change or typically homeowners don't walk around with a flashlight like I do. Exactly.37 minutes, 14 seconds
Going into crap spaces.37 minutes, 15 seconds
Exactly. They're just noticing if a door is sticking or the garage door or something's off on that crack cracks in the for big stuff. But the little37 minutes, 24 seconds
hairline stuff, they're not putting all of that together. And so it's nice to build a relationship with a company that's not just there to take your money37 minutes, 32 seconds
and then say, "Peace out. Thanks for the money." Yeah. All right. I did the inspection. That's it. Yeah. Exactly.37 minutes, 37 seconds
So that's cool. Do you have some sort of like brand promise to help with value or anything or Oh, I' I've had only one warranty claim37 minutes, 45 seconds
in in 26 years and I'm going to take that on, you know, go back and make a visit, you know, three or four or five years later, take a look at the home.37 minutes, 54 seconds
Our our paints are back behind our suppliers. You know, Sher Williams gives a 25 year, okay,37 minutes, 59 seconds
you know, guarantee against any kind of paint peeling, chipping, or cracking.38 minutes, 2 seconds
So, that's where you can provide certainty. Also, yeah, a lifetime warranty on on some of their paints for as long as you live in the home. You38 minutes, 9 seconds
know, that paint should never peel or crack. Fadings, that's that's not a thing. You know, it's that's a natural a natural wear thing. You know, the darker38 minutes, 17 seconds
you go with your colors, the more fading you're going to get, especially on a a south facing side of, you know, your your your house.38 minutes, 23 seconds
That was a great followup, man. I don't know. Yeah. Gosh, like you really got me thinking. I I I like I I hold you in a higher regard now. This man's company38 minutes, 31 seconds
will come back to your home five years later and make measurements like that.38 minutes, 35 seconds
Just blows my mind. Yeah. What a great company you're part of, man.38 minutes, 38 seconds
For another thousand. I'm That's a I think that's what um we're38 minutes, 46 seconds
living in these days and especially now with AI. Yeah. Like everything is just skeptical.38 minutes, 51 seconds
Skeptical. Yeah. Like so we need a lot more proof. Yeah.38 minutes, 54 seconds
We need a lot more certainty. We need a lot more guarantee before we jump into things. And then even then people are getting burned39 minutes, 2 seconds
because then AI learns that and this other guy that just started who you you think they mean well but actually they39 minutes, 9 seconds
just they don't even really listen to you. They just jump the gun. Oh, you need this. All right, cool. Got got it.39 minutes, 15 seconds
Give me the money. And then they go and then it doesn't work out the way that they expected.39 minutes, 20 seconds
I I I dealt with that. Uh, actually Saturday I had an inspection and this was one of those homes built in 1953. It39 minutes, 28 seconds
was a an original crawl space and then they built a basement next to it um a few years later when they had money.39 minutes, 35 seconds
Every every time they got money they'd buy a board is what they said. But ultimately they had a another company come in a couple weeks before me to39 minutes, 43 seconds
actually inspect it. And you got into the crawl space through an old window and from the basement and the other39 minutes, 51 seconds
company just stuck their head in and said, "You need this, this, and this." And it was about a $10,000 repair. Oh.39 minutes, 58 seconds
And and the funny thing is the homeowner thought $10,000 is pretty cheap for this job. And when he told me that story, I said, "Yeah, that seems pretty cheap.40 minutes, 6 seconds
I'm getting in there. I have a nice crawl space suit to put on, flashlight on my head. I get in there with the laser to be able to measure the settlement and everything. And it was full of lint. It was a big fire hazard.40 minutes, 16 seconds
I made him aware of that issue cuz the the dryer was going right into the crawl space as well. Oh, yeah. Right. Not a good thing.40 minutes, 24 seconds
Um, but his project ended up being $26,000 because I had accurate facts about what40 minutes, 31 seconds
was taking place. So rather than spending $10,000 on something that was not going to work, unfortunately by sticking your head through a window into40 minutes, 40 seconds
a crawl space, he couldn't even see damage that had taken place.40 minutes, 44 seconds
And by the time they started the job at the 10,000, they would have gone in and upsold. Exactly.40 minutes, 49 seconds
And and that's the thing that a lot of consumers are not really fond of when it's used as a gotcha tactic. You know, that's what it40 minutes, 58 seconds
feels like. So that's great to like as best you can set up the expectations in the beginning. Give a thorough measurement. That's good. Yeah. Moving forward into the future,41 minutes, 6 seconds
you know, if you if you you know own real estate, if you your personal home,41 minutes, 10 seconds
your house, residential, whatever, think of your property like like a bank account. It really is. And it's and it's like it's like a part of it's like a41 minutes, 18 seconds
body. You know, you want to give it preventive care and maintenance before things get worse. You know, you can get cancer, you know, by doing all the wrong things to yourself, right? and then you41 minutes, 26 seconds
wind up in a hole your your property is the same way. And if if you live here in Kansas City, if you've had property for quite a while, there's plenty of value41 minutes, 34 seconds
in that now some more than than than take care of your house. You know,41 minutes, 38 seconds
moving forward, you know, 10, 15, 20, 30 years, you decide to sell this property.41 minutes, 41 seconds
Undergoing inspections is probably going to be a lot more thorough than what it is right now. I mean, with all the infrared cameras and moisture meters,41 minutes, 51 seconds
you know, we've got drones, we've got all these ways. So really there there's almost virtually no way that that you can cheat anymore. You know, when people41 minutes, 58 seconds
go and they buy property, they know exactly what they're getting. So don't hesitate, get educated, make an educated choice, you know, and take care of your42 minutes, 6 seconds
stuff early before it's too late because literally your house is that body. Your house is that bank account, and it is constantly being drained. It's bleeding if you're not taking care of it.42 minutes, 16 seconds
Yeah. Yeah. So,42 minutes, 17 seconds
so circle around one more time around to the Casey home value was you you were mentioning some things of how Kansas City home value shot way up.42 minutes, 28 seconds
I was just looking at the graph this morning, you know, you know, from from way back in like what was it like 2017,42 minutes, 35 seconds
2018, 2019. You can just look at it from there and it just continues to keep going up. I remember um some of my friends actually decided to sell their42 minutes, 44 seconds
homes around COVID in the fear that they thought that property value was going to go down and um that was not the case.42 minutes, 52 seconds
No, it actually continued to go up and I've got a few of them now that they still don't own homes and they're they're looking to buy property and houses now and it's more difficult now43 minutes, 1 second
than ever. You know, now they're talking about interest rates coming down just a little bit now, but I mean not much but maybe 1%43 minutes, 8 seconds
or something like that. What? How many years?43 minutes, 10 seconds
So, what about those that have a K city home, but they could use a facelift, a good paint job, but they want to list43 minutes, 17 seconds
their house. How much does that like as far as their investment improve their sale? Do you know?43 minutes, 24 seconds
Oh. Oh, well, I mean, it's it's just like this. Whenever you have an appraisal, you know, you have your real estate agent, they show up and they notice that if your house is a project43 minutes, 33 seconds
and it needs work, I mean, the buyer is literally just going to take the price of what that is and then remove it from the sale. So, literally, if you're if you're spending money on me and Matthew,43 minutes, 44 seconds
you're really not actually spending any money. What you're doing is you're putting money into one bank into the other and to keep this bank from bleeding. And actually this, if you do43 minutes, 53 seconds
your job right, like him and I do, the money that you're paying us is actually worth more on your house and on your project than what it is sitting in another account.44 minutes, 1 second
Dude,44 minutes, 1 second
I'll paint a home in certain areas and we'll it'll be x amount of thousands, but after we're done with that project,44 minutes, 8 seconds
it is worth more money on their house and what it was when they paid us. On average, do you see like a 2x having a golden touch, you know,44 minutes, 14 seconds
like what do you usually see like a 2x of investment or a 10x or like I know I know it varies, but like what's the average?44 minutes, 21 seconds
I would say probably whatever we charge for that that project and probably at least on average 5 to 7% more. Yeah.44 minutes, 28 seconds
Yeah. So, okay, that's awesome, dude.44 minutes, 31 seconds
mind blown because when you said that was such a good line and that means you have a really good offer in these situations where you want to sell your44 minutes, 38 seconds
house but it needs a little facelift or some work or better appraisal than go44 minutes, 45 seconds
and hire Matthew, go and hire Phil and it ends up not even costing you anything.44 minutes, 52 seconds
It actually costs you more if you don't hire them. Yep. 100%.44 minutes, 56 seconds
Right. When you do that it's an investment. Sure. But it's been proven over and over and over and over that now that when the appraisal goes up, it's actually worth that.45 minutes, 6 seconds
Yeah. And then houses are still being sold, people are still buying houses.45 minutes, 10 seconds
Man, you ain't got to take our word for it. Go Yeah. Talk to your real estate agents, talk to home inspectors, you know, anybody who's involved,45 minutes, 16 seconds
you know, in that that residential side of the business of of moving property around. You know, you get you make a good responsible decision on who's working for you and you should never lose that money.45 minutes, 25 seconds
Yeah.45 minutes, 25 seconds
And then Kansas City homes just look so good. You know, you can drive through a neighborhood and you can be like, "Oh,45 minutes, 31 seconds
that one's been redone." Like, you can tell like that one's modern. That one like someone really did a good job. Falling down right now.45 minutes, 37 seconds
That's a Phil house, you know?45 minutes, 40 seconds
Yeah. That one's not falling down. Looks does not look Dude, I grew up in a crooked house. Yeah.45 minutes, 45 seconds
When I first um what, eight maybe eight years of my life. And I remember though when we would sit at the dining room45 minutes, 53 seconds
table that if someone spilled, none of us got up except for my oldest brother cuz he was at the end of the table. He was he was the one that got it.46 minutes, 1 second
Seriously, it was so crazy.46 minutes, 4 seconds
It would spill all down towards him. If you put a marble on the table, it would go down to him. You know, he's got past trauma from spills.46 minutes, 13 seconds
But now that house doesn't exist anymore. Yeah. There's a reason.46 minutes, 17 seconds
Yeah. So, but it served its purpose for us. We I think my dad bought it like knowing he used to be an inspector. So,46 minutes, 23 seconds
I surely he knew the risk or whatever, but for some reason we we took that risk and lived in there for a for a little bit of time,46 minutes, 31 seconds
but then moved out and I think he had to like no one else would really want to invest in that. And so, I'm not sure46 minutes, 38 seconds
that we sold it for a good amount. I was so young. I don't really know. It'd be interesting to go back and ask my dad now, but which he was on this podcast once. really.46 minutes, 47 seconds
Yeah. You know,46 minutes, 48 seconds
well, hopefully he watches this podcast so he can just text you. Um Jared's dad text the answer to the46 minutes, 56 seconds
I want to know. I want to know. It was actually Taylor Street. So, my last name, you know, it was nice.47 minutes, 1 second
So, there's a really good filter I want to talk about that all three of us are a part of. It's kind of a big deal. If you're looking for a good service provider, you know, and you're like,47 minutes, 9 seconds
hell, where do I find these people that do what they're supposed to do? We've all been a part of BNI. I know you're part of Chamber of Commerce and yeah,47 minutes, 17 seconds
you know, anybody who has a business is in like a business networking group that's been around for a while,47 minutes, 22 seconds
typically they they're pretty reputable because these these networking groups tend to weed out businesses that aren't the real McCoy that they don't want to trust.47 minutes, 32 seconds
Right. Yeah. That's part of our code of ethics be networking groups. That's a good little shout. Anyway. Yeah.47 minutes, 38 seconds
Yeah. And that's how that's how we all met really. Um I met Phil there and then um I had to leave for different circumstances. It wasn't that it was a47 minutes, 46 seconds
bad group or anything. It was a great group, but I'm here in Overland Park now. So like the distance and everything. Harland B and I.47 minutes, 52 seconds
But yeah. So anyways, yeah. Raymore, we all like you're from Harrisonville. Where you from? Yeah. Peculiar.48 minutes
Peculiar. So yeah, the the great south of the Missouri side of Kansas City. And I guess I've moved to the Kansas side for business. No. But let's just face it, for what I do,48 minutes, 11 seconds
it makes sense. It makes more sense. Uh especially in this awesome studio.48 minutes, 15 seconds
But uh guys, thank you so much for your time. Is there one last thing you want to add or at all? Like did we cover48 minutes, 22 seconds
something you feel like some that would bring value to a listener.48 minutes, 26 seconds
I want to thank God for allowing us to do what we love. Amen. Appreciate you guys 100%. Yeah. Yeah.48 minutes, 31 seconds
Awesome. So, how can we follow you if someone's more interested? They we said phone number, call Phil. We joked about that. But how do we actually learn that?48 minutes, 41 seconds
Is it through your website? Oh, yeah. We have we have a website now.48 minutes, 44 seconds
Yep. David Campbell made me a really nice website. Okay. With I Digital Creative.48 minutes, 49 seconds
Um Campbell out of Harrisonville. Um yeah, the number is 9135790067.48 minutes, 55 seconds
Call is that your personal number? Yeah. No, that's my website. Okay. Business.48 minutes, 58 seconds
Yeah. Well, website's Lindstöm Pro Painters.49 minutes
Okay. Painters. Lindstrom Lindstrom Painters. L I N S T R O. You know what? Links are in the description. Yeah, if you want to go.49 minutes, 9 seconds
You have an octopus on your shirt.49 minutes, 10 seconds
Oh, that's it's explain it.49 minutes, 12 seconds
It's a very sacred animal to me. The octopus is the only animal on on the planet that can individually change all of its chromosomes. Oh,49 minutes, 20 seconds
so it's like an alien,49 minutes, 21 seconds
dude. I was like, an octopus gets the closest to an alien.49 minutes, 24 seconds
It's the closest thing that we have on a planet that that But it makes sense cuz you can do all these like paint jobs and every single one of its tentacles,49 minutes, 32 seconds
it has a part of it brain.49 minutes, 32 seconds
I don't know what to do with my Oh, yeah. Oh man. Okay. What about you, Matthew? Do you have a direct link or anything?49 minutes, 40 seconds
If someone I do. If someone wants a free inspection of their home to see uh how to actually fix it, uh they can text me or call me at 913 uh 2090443.49 minutes, 50 seconds
Well, that's awesome, guys. So, we've learned a little more of more than meets the eye. I can't say more of right before it, but um we got49 minutes, 58 seconds
that from uh Transformers without realizing it. So now every time you hear of the Transformers, I need you guys to think of more than meets the I with the50 minutes, 7 seconds
letter I because we spell JT Visuals without the I. Did you realize that? Yes, we did. Okay, awesome. There's a reason. And thank you guys for listening.50 minutes, 14 seconds
I want to remind you to keep on doing the reps. Make sure and keep on keeping
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Matthew Menge is passionate about helping people solve problems and find real solutions. Whether serving in jail ministry or guiding homeowners through foundation repair projects, Matthew has always been driven by meaningful conversations and a genuine desire to help others move forward with confidence.
With a heart for service and a practical approach to problem-solving, he takes pride in educating individuals, listening carefully to their concerns, and offering clear, honest guidance. From complex foundation issues to personal encouragement, Matthew believes every situation deserves attention, integrity, and care.
Matthew lives in the Cass County area with his loving wife and their three boys. Faith, family, and serving others are at the center of both his personal and professional life.