"The Price Tag of Spiritual Greatness" S4 Ep10

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Welcome to Keep It 100 Podcast with Sean and Christa Smith.

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Join us in this space where we take on real issues with real insight and real inspiration.

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revelation to forever change lives.

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Keep It 100 Tribe, what's going on?

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This is your boy Sean and your girl.

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Hey everybody, it's Christa.

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Hey, we're super excited that you guys joined us.

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We just never take for granted that you guys listen to this podcast.

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You're continually making this podcast the top 1% globally.

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Our downloads are just increasing every month.

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We're super excited about it.

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And our prayer is that it's bringing value.

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It's bringing a level of inspiration, but more than anything is leading people to just

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encounter Jesus and to take their faith deeper in the air of discipleship.

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And so we're super excited.

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In this episode, we're talking about the price tag of spiritual greatness.

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Isn't that an awesome subject?

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Man, I'm excited about this conversation you and I are going to have because I think so

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many people, God is using such significant ways.

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So I think there's going to be some insight into people that really want to go to that

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next place with the Lord.

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Yes, absolutely.

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I 100% agree with that.

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And I just want to jump in here and just kind of give a couple updates.

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Hey, we've been some places.

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What did you share with this you were in Florida and just God moves?

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So tell us about that.

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Yeah, I was great.

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I was in Florida at Calvary Church with Possel Jim and Don Rayleigh, and they just have an

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incredible house there.

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And she hosted a beautiful women's conference called Glow.

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It's an annual conference.

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And this year, a woman in the church, woman of means, she covered the entire bill.

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So the conference was able to be completely free.

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That alone is just awesome, right?

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Wow.

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Yes.

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So 1400 women came, totally free event.

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Havala was there.

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Who's a friend of mine.

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I love ministry alongside Havala and the pastor, Don, and her own right.

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It's just a powerhouse.

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And just all of our sessions, I just saw God uniquely meet the women.

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It really was special what God did.

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And then they invited me over to minister on Sunday and you flew in to be with me, which

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I always tell all the ladies, find a man who will fly in and be delayed and get in in the

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wee hours of the morning to sit in and pray and intercede and cheer you on.

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I mean, and I just loved having you in the service.

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But God moved on Sunday morning.

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Oh my gosh.

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I began by just ministering prophetically at the beginning of the service, called out

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this young man, got the feedback on the other side of that story prophetically.

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It was really cool.

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I just got how he's called to preach and minister and go on campuses.

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He's currently on university campuses and all tours were full.

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And I don't know, it just felt different in the spirit.

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I was in those services too.

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And obviously it went over three hours on a Sunday morning.

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You guys come on, everybody's trying to cut back on time.

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But it was the presence of God.

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There were so many people that got saved.

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I mean, a number of people, healings, prophetic words.

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It was...

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Salvation, that's right.

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Amazing.

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It was amazing.

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I just saw an Anointing come on you to draw the loss.

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And I think big picture, we're really in a season where, and this phrase has been sticking

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with me, is that we're not in a season to give the Holy Spirit room.

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We're in a season to give the Holy Spirit the room.

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I love that.

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Sunday morning is the big test.

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I think we've gotten a little bit better at having off night services, special prayer

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meetings and everything.

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But now I think the Holy Spirit is saying, I want the room on Sunday morning.

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Because at the end of the day, it really does become the steering wheel for the culture

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of the house.

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That's when the majority of people are there.

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That's where they guess people are picking up on what you value.

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So it's so important.

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So anyway, it was interesting because before I joined you, like you said, I did a power

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and love school with our great friend Todd White.

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We love Todd and Jackie.

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We were outside of Pittsburgh.

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And it was so cool because we just got a chance to equip people.

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They hit the streets.

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They were leading people to the Lord.

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There were miracles.

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One of the, I did, I think three sessions, one of them, I just took time and prayed people

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through to the baptism Holy Spirit.

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We had dozens upon dozens upon dozens.

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It was so, I always remember this, but we had a mom and two daughters side by side weeping

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at the altar, all of them baptized in the Holy Ghost for the first time.

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And then the next session, the older daughter, and when I say the older daughter, the older

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daughter is maybe 13, the younger daughter is like 11 or 10.

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She was used of the Lord to go share her faith.

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And if someone responded to Christ and I just thought, man, the night before this timid girl

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is at the altar wondering what's the baptism Holy Spirit?

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She gets filled.

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She's out and there were miracles.

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And it was just, it was such a profound time.

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And then come on now.

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Last week we had our second momentum night.

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You brought the word prophesied.

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It was amazing.

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You know, the Lord told me going into the night that I was going to prophesy over the

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bay and it was going to be a catalytic night and it was going to be rooted in his glory.

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So I went into the service last Friday night with such an expectancy of what God's going

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to do.

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And I just, I love what God is doing in California.

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There's a remnant here in the bay and beyond that he is doing something we have not seen.

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And this is cool.

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I'm going to do this on Friday night and I want to quickly share this with the people

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on our tribe, especially for those of you that live in California will be excited.

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And for many of you that have lived in California but moved away, but still have a heart for

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what God's doing.

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Cause we get a lot of feedback like that as well.

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You know, in, uh, I think it was 1848.

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It was the beginning.

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It was officially the day that started the year that started.

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And I think it was like January 25th, 1848, something like that started the gold rush

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in California.

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And what's interesting is because of the unprecedented waters and rains this year in

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2023, there has been all this new found gold has come to the surface that has been in for

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175 years that has been unfounded in the rocks, in the caverns, in the different soil.

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And the, as the, as the rain has been coming down in the rivers, they're discovering all

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this new gold.

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And I, and they're calling it the gold rush 2.0.

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And they're saying 175 years later, California is in a new gold rush.

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And now Sonoma County, we are having a new gold rush.

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And it's such a perfect picture of the outpouring and the blessing and the richness of the land

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that when, what the, what the enemy is called a wasteland, God has said, this is my promised

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land.

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And, uh, I just want people to know we're in the moment of the subtleties and we're

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going to begin to see that things that just turn on a dime.

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And so I just released that over you as you're listening right now, wherever you call home

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and whatever you're facing in your life, I just want to declare the suddenly of the Lord

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over you.

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And then in a moment shifting, God can change anything and everything and the places that

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were once dry are now going to be plentiful and fruitful.

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So I just released that.

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Oh, I love that.

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Wait, keep it 100 tribe.

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We want to talk a little bit about this whole aspect of price tag of spiritual greatness.

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And we're got a big surprise because I'm going to interview Christa.

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So she's going to be answering questions.

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But first I just want to lay a little groundwork and just say, you know, in this day and age,

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many people don't realize that there is a price tag to spiritual greatness.

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And when I, when I think about it, I think leadership without a price tag, leadership

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in the church, leadership in the kingdom, leadership without a price tag is nothing

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more than the immature, famed fantasy.

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But if you don't realize, and what we're taking this from is Jeremiah 18, one through

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six, Jeremiah, the prophet went and the Lord spoke to him to see a potter who had some

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clay in his hand and he was going to make this clay into a useful vessel.

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And it's just a picture of us that we got to understand God is the potter.

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It's interesting in that passage, Christa in Jeremiah, it says that the clay and it's called

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clay until the final product.

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It's not like it's called a pot until it's done.

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I think a lot of people prematurely come out from underneath the dealings of the Lord

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and they're not finished yet.

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And what happens is, is that piece of clay that's not a pot later down the line, you

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put it in an oven and that's how you make it into earthenware, how you make it into

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porcelain, depending on how hot, how long you leave it in there.

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But it cracks under the pressure of the heat if it hasn't been properly processed.

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And man, have we seen that?

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So anyway, this whole aspect is God is the potter or we are the clay.

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And when I think about that, I think there is this thing where God processes his people

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before they become God's product.

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But Christa, just think about it, a servant of God not only touches the work of God, they

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become the work of God.

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And so what do you think about when you think about just that phrase that spiritual leadership

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without a price tag is nothing more than immature, faint fantasy?

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You know, I agree with it.

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It's kind of a hard pill to swallow probably for some people when they hear that like,

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whoa, you know, there's a finality to that statement.

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You're drawn a line in the sand, but I think it's really accurate.

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I think we have to understand that with the cost that the Lord paid on the cross, that

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the Father God gave of his son, when he's willing to give everything, it would be foolish

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for us to think we're not going to be required to give everything.

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And there's a laying down process that is required for every disciple and follower of

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Jesus.

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And there is, there's a line in that, you know, there's a line that has to be drawn

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in the spirit.

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So if we feel like we can be used mightily by treading only in shallow waters, we really

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are deceived in that.

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There is a requirement for us to go to the deep waters, for us to be able to lay down

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the foley and completely that I think is required, but a lot of times people don't acknowledge

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it because we live in such a consumer driven Christianity at present in North America specifically.

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And I know other nations listen to this and I'm sure this could be relatable to other

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nations.

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But I think we have so focused on what can the gospel do for me now, you know, right?

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That we have lost sight of really it's about what Jesus, what can we do for you?

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It's not what he can do for us because he's already done it.

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And so I think that shift of mentality shifts your posture on how you follow Jesus.

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That's so good.

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You know, I was thinking as you're sharing that, you know, the Bible talks about the

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second Timothy chapter two, verse 20 says in a large house there are not only golden

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silver vessels, but wooden earth and where therefore anyone cleanses themselves from

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the ladder, they'll be useful, sanctified, useful to the mass prepared for every good

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work.

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And so I started thinking about then I think, you know, the scarcity of power at any given

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generation is not a shortage on God's part, but it's the lack of usability of vessels.

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So so many people say, why aren't we seeing more of the power of God in this generation?

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And you can think of a time when past giants, Smith Wigglesworth, the Amy Sybil McPherson's

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WJC Morris, the Evan Roberts.

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And part of it is it's not a shortage on God's part.

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It's the usability of a vessel.

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And the Bible talks about over and over again, God says, I saw it for a person who would

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stand in the gap.

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I saw it for a person who would be king.

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God is always seeking.

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And what he's looking for is so key.

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And I think about the Bible is clear over and over again.

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God looks for people that have an undivided heart of loyalty.

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He looks for people who honor authority.

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He looks for people that are hungry for the things of God.

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And so with that, you are probably the most hungry for God person I know.

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So I'm super excited.

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I'm going to jump into some of the questions and hold on again, because we got a special

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little excerpt from a great friend of ours that we're going to introduce a little bit

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later.

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But I just want to begin, Christa, and just ask you, what did giving your life to Jesus

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look like?

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And then I would ask you to piggyback on that.

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What did consecration look like for you?

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You know, I love what you just shared and kind of my answer follows suit on what you

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just shared.

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And I think when you give your life fully to God, and especially as a young person, I

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had the privilege of being raised in a Christian home and a home that loved and reverence the

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Lord.

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So I would say my commitment and my process of consecration was exactly that, a process.

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Because I was a little girl, when you step into greater knowledge of what it is to be

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a disciple of Jesus, he calls you to deeper waters, right?

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And so in the deepening of waters is a deeper place of consecration.

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And I think it really comes down to connect to the verse you were just talking about.

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The Lord was looking for a pure vessel in me.

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And I think he's looking that for all of us.

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And where there was mixture in the years of my life, at times knowingly, at times unknowingly,

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he would invite me to a place of deeper consecration.

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I can look back, baby, in my life at very specific moments where I looked around and

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in my pursuit of following Jesus, living completely for Jesus and having a life of consecration,

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recognizing that was what he was asking of me, not out of legalism, not out of religious

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rote, but out of adoration and a life that gave him honor and a life that was one that

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was given completely to him.

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It required me to eliminate the mixture.

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So the mixture in junior high looked like me having to not hang out with certain people

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versus in high school, same thing, just making sure who I was hanging out with and making

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sure those influences and those people that had kind of weight in my life were honoring

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God.

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And that was hard because I lived in a place where there was not a lot of people serving

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God.

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That required in college, me not going to a lot of the parties or different things because

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I knew what other people could.

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I couldn't.

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It looked like me not partying.

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It looked like me not sleeping around.

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It looked like me saving myself for marriage.

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It looked like me not drinking and taking a Nazarite call as a young girl and living

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that out.

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It looked like me choosing throughout my life to not goss up and watch what came out of

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my mouth.

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I had an understanding that my words had weight.

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When I was in positions of leadership, I realized that was not for my glory, but that was so

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I could be a witness for the Lord.

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So it looked different in different seasons, but every one of those layers, every one of

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those places of God sifting through where there was a mixture in my life.

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And I was coming into a greater revelation of, hold on, I have this life to give this

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entertainment, this friend, that conversation, this behavior doesn't line up with who God

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has called me to be.

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Then I need to remove that out of my life.

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And so that process went through my teens, my 20s and my 30s.

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And I think in my 30s especially, I really feel like I became so clear on who I was.

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I was fully serving God.

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I was living completely for God, but I think there's just places of consecration.

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I remember in my 20s, I was actually in the Bay Area and I was visiting my sister who

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was living here at the time.

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And she still lives here actually, but I was visiting her with my mom and we were watching,

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I think, some service together.

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My mom and I were always like, go and have her God together.

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And I remember just having a conviction about the music I was listening to.

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Now it wasn't bad music.

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Probably some of it wasn't maybe the best.

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I liked myself some, 90s R&B was my favorite, I have to say.

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But I remember finding myself, the Lord just saying, hey, some of that music doesn't line

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up.

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I remember going out and putting in the garbage can.

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I got my CD case and we all used to carry our CD collection in our car.

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Remember that?

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And I went through and I just took out so many.

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I just sat there over a garbage can and my mom was there with me and I just remember crying

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and like just being like, but I'm called.

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I'm called.

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I'm called with every CD I threw in that garbage can.

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I was like, but I'm called.

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My calling is greater than my entertainment.

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My calling and my conviction has to be greater than my flesh.

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And so it was like, it was a moment of your flesh has to continually get surrendered throughout

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your entire walk with Jesus.

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Even as you go through the years with the Lord, you can get familiar and you still have to

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go back to a place of fresh consecration, fresh renewal, fresh commitment to the things

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of God.

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Cause God is always going after you to be a pure vessel before him.

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I love that because I really feel like as you're sharing that, you begin to sense there

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is a cost, you know, as you were sharing what a consecration looked like.

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You know, my question would be also, has there been a cost for the touch of God in your life?

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And you begin to touch upon that because I think God gives everyone an equal opportunity

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to be used by him, but not everyone takes up God on that offer and not everybody becomes

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supremely usable.

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That verse we're talking about and you're sharing stories that really show that you weren't

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the second Timothy chapter two, verse 20, you weren't vessels of wood and earth and

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where, but vessels of gold and silver.

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And so it says, sanctified, useful to the master, prepared for every good work as if

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to imply there's certain people God says, I can use you to do this, but I can't use

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you to raise the debt.

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And I look at Christ to how God has caused your voice to emerge.

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I look at the platforms you're on the, and again, I know you guys keep you on her to

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try.

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Chris is very humble, so she's making faces right now as I'm bragging on her, but you've

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always given the glory to God.

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And amazing doors are opening for you.

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People are calling our office and it's incredible, but what people don't understand is that there

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is a cost to that.

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Some people think, Hey, I'll just take a couple Instagram social media pics with celebrities.

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Man, throw me in and I'll be with this Hollywood type.

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I'll be with this sports figure and check me out and I'm doing a photo op and I can

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get more followers, but that doesn't mean I've touched this, the depth of spiritual greatness

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that God has for us.

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So what do you feel for you, Chris?

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There's been the cost for the touch of God on your life.

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You know, well, there are such a cost and there really is.

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And I don't say that to scare anyone, but if you really want to be used by God, and

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I'm still figuring this out and I'm still walking out this, so I don't feel like I'm

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an expert by any means.

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I'm in, I'm in process like everybody else.

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But I remember having a revelation in my twenties because I was going to the Lord because I

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was just, I loved Benny Hinn and I loved Catherine Coleman.

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I sat there and I would order the VHSs and I didn't have a lot of money, but the money

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I had, I would, I would order these VHSs and I would just get wrecked and I'd watch them

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over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

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And I would just see Holy Spirit move in such a powerful way.

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And I remember saying, God, how, how do I get used like that?

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Like, how do, how do you come in a room like that?

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Like, how do you, how do you minister like that?

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And I remember him saying to me, the same Holy Spirit is available to everyone, but you choose

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your death.

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Wow.

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And that was it.

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And I remember just having that revelation that Benny Hinn and Catherine Coleman and every

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other spiritual giant didn't have any more access to Holy Spirit than what we have.

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We all just choose our death and we choose how much time and we choose our pursuit.

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We choose our posture.

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And there's times I've looked back in my life and feel like I've stewarded that really

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well.

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And there's other times I've looked back in my life and thought, man, I've really, I'm

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really missed some, some opportunities to go deeper.

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Right.

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And it's not about us being perfect and it's not about us always nailing it because I don't

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think that's possible for us to always nail it.

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But I do think it's about us posturing ourselves and just recognizing we choose our depth.

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And so I think especially my twenties, when I really stepped into going fully for God,

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that's when I just started cleaning house.

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I started like, it was just, there was no holds bar.

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It was like the inner L my entertainment went through such a cleansing.

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And honestly, I've never been someone that's watched vulgar stuff.

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It's just, it's not my M.O.

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But nonetheless, like I just, I just cleansed what I listened to my conversations.

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I hung out with awesome people that were super funny and I used to be really sarcastic.

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That was a big part of my sense of humor.

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And the Lord went after that with me because he said sarcasm is not a fruit of my spirit.

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So I had to, I had to change my humor.

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That was hard.

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And that just sounds simple, but honestly, it was a huge aspect of my personality and

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I always got a room laughing.

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And I loved it when I could make people laugh.

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So giving that up was really hard.

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So I had to change my sense of humor.

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I had to allow the Lord to soften me in ways.

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He had to change my entertainment.

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I, I felt the no all through my college years.

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And this probably was when I felt it the most in the area of social on my social in my social

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world.

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I was invited to so many parties and ski parties because we were only five hours away from

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Whistler because I went to school in Seattle and there was always these weekends away at

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Whistler where everyone would go and have a party house and go, and I was, I was never

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interested in drinking or anything like that, but I did want to just be around everyone

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and have fun and create memories.

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And I would have enjoyed snowboarding and all that.

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But I remember the Lord's like, you can't even be there.

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Like you can't be present.

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There's some things you just can't have your presence at.

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There's some things by, but your presence shows affirmation and confirmation and saying

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like, this is okay.

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Even if you're not participating, it's your presence states a different message.

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And so I remember having that realization.

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Like I couldn't go to a party because if I went to a party, then it would be viewed that

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I was okay with what was happening at the party.

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And I remember like, I even was at a dinner one time and someone asked me to hold their

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alcoholic drink.

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I don't drink and I, I take in a vow not to drink, but I remember even saying to them,

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I can't hold your drink.

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And they said, well, why?

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And I said, well, if anyone walks by, they don't know I'm holding it for you.

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They'll think it's my drink.

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So I remember just my convictions of like, I'm not holding a drink.

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I'm not participating.

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I'm not like, I just cleaned house in my twenties because I think prior to my twenties, I was

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serving God and I loved God, but there was definitely mixture.

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I think because I was the only Christian, I, I still, if I compared my walked other people,

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I was doing awesome.

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But the thing is the barometer was way too low.

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Right?

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It was just way too low.

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And so when the spirit of God arrested me and I just got enraptured when I started watching

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the Benny Hinn and the Catholic Coleman and he says, you have access to the whole, the

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same Holy spirit.

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All of a sudden there wasn't anything that was too great of a cost.

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I remember it was a Christian CD and it was one of my favorite Christian artists at the

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time.

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I was driving to work an hour and a half commute.

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Here's another cost hour and a half commute because I wanted discipleship in my life.

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I didn't want to live in compromise.

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So I didn't live in Seattle.

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I lived an hour and a half commute away from work and I drove Monday through Friday and

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hour and a half each way to work because I wanted discipleship in my life.

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That's right.

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But as I'm driving, I'm listening to my favorite Christian artists at the time and I could

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tell there was compromise in their life, they had a different sound.

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I immediately rolled down the window and threw it out the window.

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Wow.

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And some people might go, that's crazy.

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But if there was compromise or mixture because I knew that, I knew that smell.

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I knew that sound.

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I knew the fragrance of that because God had delivered me from it.

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He was now calling me to be a pure vessel.

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I just removed it.

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I did.

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I, I, I not in a, in abrupt or a mean way, but I pulled back from relationships.

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I wouldn't say I cut off relationships.

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I just, I pulled back from relationships.

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I, I shifted my friend group very intentionally.

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I was intentional about where I lived, what came out of my mouth, what I watched.

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I mean, everything just, it went through a cleansing.

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That's so good.

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And, and I honestly, I've never, I've never gone back and it doesn't mean I've walked

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it perfect, but I've just, I've just had a conviction about the life I live because

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I want to live a life that the Holy spirit can dwell in and I only have one to give them.

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So I want it to be really good.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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That is so strong because, you know, as you're sharing that about the cost, I'm just reviewing

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it in my life, different places and times, but I was thinking about again, the scripture

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that we were talking about Jeremiah 18, when God told Jeremiah to go down to the potter's

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house, when the potter gets the clay, the first thing that the potter does is takes

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the pebbles, the straw, the stuff out.

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So what you're describing is God starts putting his finger on little things in your life,

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getting those pebbles out of your life in the area of purity and the area of focus and

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the area of what you're entertained by, who you hang out with, what's in your hand, what's

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not in your hand.

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God's going after the pebbles.

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But then the next thing that the potter does when he's turning the clay into a pot is that

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he adds water to it.

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And the water, of course, we know is the word is the spirit, but you begin to watch the

465
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,560
bitty hands of the Catherine Coleman.

466
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,640
You begin to get in the word and all of a sudden you could see, uh-oh, this is this

467
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:05,120
later down the road, I'm going to use this vessel to speak internationally, to write

468
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:09,200
books, to be used of God, to call forth movements.

469
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,120
And then it's just a thing that kind of, I think we're going to begin to move towards

470
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:18,040
too is that after that is set on a wheel where it's kind of grounded between two.

471
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,120
So you feel the pressing, the grinding of that, but then it's thrown in the fire.

472
00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:26,920
And this principle that I think is so powerful and just tell me what your thoughts are on

473
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:33,680
this, because I think this is so profound, is that the greater the usage of the vessel,

474
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,240
the more intense the flames have to be.

475
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,680
Like earthen where only gets heated to a certain level, but if you're going to be porcelain,

476
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,840
that's the most expensive pottery.

477
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,400
You have to be fired up to a whole higher level.

478
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:51,920
And so I think what, what do you see in terms of when God begins to, because I think when

479
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,960
it comes to the call of God, when it comes to being used of God, it first comes as an

480
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:56,960
interruption.

481
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,080
Like you say, Hey, you're just doing a high school thing.

482
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,600
You're doing a college thing for me.

483
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,600
I was in college.

484
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,440
God comes to interrupt your life.

485
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,520
But that moment of interruption is everything with you leaning into it, saying yes to God

486
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,280
to where you're ultimately going.

487
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,280
At what point, and we'll call this interruption, the ultimate interruption, the call of God.

488
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,800
What moment did you realize you had the call of God on your life?

489
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,440
And then I would ask you to piggyback.

490
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,120
What are some things you would tell the genera, this generation in terms of discovering the

491
00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:25,440
call of God in their life?

492
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:31,400
You know, I knew I was always set apart just because I could, my convictions were different

493
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,400
than those around me.

494
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,400
Wow.

495
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,440
And my convictions were different than those around me.

496
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,000
And I knew I was set apart.

497
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,720
I always knew I was set apart, even as a little girl.

498
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,840
Now discovering the call of God, that's different because you can be set apart.

499
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,480
But when I know God has a call on my life and I'm called, I'm going to specifically say

500
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,720
to preach and prophesy because that's my call, but someone could insert whatever their call

501
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,720
is.

502
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,200
But for me, I knew something was different on me.

503
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:01,120
I had a divine interruption, my senior year of college at Seattle Pacific University.

504
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:04,640
My friends and I, there was probably three or four of my friends, we were consistently

505
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,040
continuing for a move of God on our Methodist, free Methodist university campus.

506
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,960
And one night we went to group and group was the kind of the cool chapels.

507
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,440
Isn't that funny that there's a cool chapel, but leave it to a university to create the

508
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,920
cool chapel.

509
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,600
And that was the one that was Wednesday nights.

510
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,760
And I believe it started at nine o'clock at night and all the athletes would come to

511
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:24,760
that one.

512
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,120
You know, it was kind of like the cool one.

513
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:29,520
It was like a thousand people in our cafeteria.

514
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,720
And I just remember getting a holy burden.

515
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,280
I wouldn't have understood at the time, but I felt a burden for my peers to experience

516
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,280
God.

517
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,280
And I had been, I had been witnessing to many of them because I had a friend, I was friends

518
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,800
with a lot of the athletes and I hung out with that group.

519
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,800
So I knew the compromise.

520
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:46,800
I knew the casualness.

521
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,200
A lot of them didn't even believe in God, had no experience with God, were not interested

522
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,200
in God.

523
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,920
And I just had such, because I had been so arrested by God and marked by God.

524
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,520
And by this point I'm in this fiery prophetic Holy Ghost church.

525
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,240
I'm attending every week and I just know my campus needs to experience this.

526
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,320
And I got on my, I got on my knees and I asked for permission.

527
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,600
And at the end of worship, somewhere in the service, I got on my knees and I just begin

528
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,440
to cry out for them to encounter God.

529
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,720
And it just came over me.

530
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,720
I didn't plan it.

531
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,720
I didn't rehearse it.

532
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,080
It's just the Holy Spirit moved on me and in front of, in front of about a thousand or

533
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,360
nine hundred of my peers, I got on my knees and I wept and I said, there's a God in this

534
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:26,160
room who wants to encounter you.

535
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,880
And there's many of you that have just been so dissatisfied.

536
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:34,560
And I just began to make a, it was like a plea for the loss, but a plea for encounter.

537
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,680
It was like this, it was a little bit of both.

538
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,760
And I just said, Jesus is in the room.

539
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,760
If you want him, come to the altar.

540
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,760
Okay.

541
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,400
300 students came down.

542
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,400
Wow.

543
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,400
That's crazy.

544
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,400
You're a college student.

545
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,560
I'm a college student.

546
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,560
At your college.

547
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:49,560
Yeah.

548
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,200
And majority of the athletes came down.

549
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,040
These were the cool kids, which kind of undid everyone.

550
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,480
Because you know how it is, you did university campus ministry for years, Sean, you know,

551
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,800
that when the cool, cause the cool kids really set the tone on campus, especially the athletes.

552
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,800
Right.

553
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,200
Well, when the athletes, cause I called, I said, if you're dealing with porn, I said

554
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,560
this, if you're dealing with porn, you're going to get set free tonight.

555
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,560
You're dealing with depression.

556
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,840
You're going to say, I just start calling stuff out.

557
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:13,840
You're going to get set free tonight.

558
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,840
Wow.

559
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,000
Over 300 students came and we got on their faces, got on the altar and we're crying out.

560
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,560
I mean, these guys were crying in front of their peers and God moved.

561
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,640
And it shifted our campus.

562
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,200
It was at that moment I got up and I started praying for people.

563
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,200
God started moving.

564
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,800
I was prophesying into people's ears.

565
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,320
I wasn't prophesying on the mic, but I was prophesying over people's ears, not even

566
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,840
knowing what I was doing.

567
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,200
I just was, I just got here with the whole, I called my friends up who had been interceding

568
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,200
with me.

569
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,680
So we had this like little like makeshift ministry team and we just started going through the

570
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,680
altars.

571
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,000
Like we just, we just did the stuff.

572
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,600
Not because anyone told us to do it because we just, it was just happening.

573
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,200
What were the administration or leaders or people loved it?

574
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,200
Oh, come on.

575
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,560
They loved it because they had had so many issues with so many of these athletes, you

576
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,520
know, breaking rules, having girls in their dorms all hours of the night, people sleeping

577
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,800
together, parties.

578
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,080
There had been so many issues of immorality on our campus.

579
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,080
Yeah.

580
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,280
And our, and our leadership was like, they just need God.

581
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,680
They needed to counter with God.

582
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,840
And so the leaders and the people specifically over the chapels had been praying for God to

583
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:28,720
move because there'd been so much rebelliousness within the student body that the administration

584
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,120
was like, go, go.

585
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,120
This is amazing.

586
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,120
Right.

587
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,120
I went back to my room that night, baby.

588
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,920
And this is really to answer your question.

589
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,320
I knew I was called because I felt the Holy Spirit come upon me.

590
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,680
And in my, just my simple understanding at that time, I was like, the Holy Spirit wouldn't

591
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,200
have come on me if I'm not called to carry him.

592
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,200
I just knew.

593
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,000
I wouldn't have come on me like that if I wasn't called to carry him.

594
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:56,200
And so I just realized in that moment after that night, I was supposed to have a mic in

595
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,200
my hand.

596
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,200
Wow.

597
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,880
And I was supposed to proclaim what the Holy Spirit was telling me and I was going to preach

598
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,120
and I was going to prophesy.

599
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:07,880
Like all of a sudden, all the years of me seeing other people do that, I realized that was

600
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,880
on me.

601
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:09,880
Yes.

602
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,880
So I had been around it.

603
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,760
I had had reference points of it, but I never knew that was on me until all of a sudden,

604
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,760
boom, all I did.

605
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,680
It started with intercession, it started with prayer and it started with me believing for

606
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,600
a move of God on my university campus.

607
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,600
And you know what?

608
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,600
He did it.

609
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,240
And I wish it was a full out full on revival.

610
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,440
It wasn't, but God began to move and we begin to see salvation.

611
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,200
And I saw God use me among other people.

612
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,240
And that solidified, I knew I was called.

613
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,920
You know, and for people listening right now, as you've shared all those times that others

614
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,240
could, but you could not.

615
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,080
In other words, you set a standard.

616
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,760
You were starting to live that in high school and you said, God start pointing out, rather

617
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,600
was your sarcastic wit or different things that you begin to change.

618
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,160
You begin to repent of, you begin to come in line with what God has for you.

619
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,400
And it's that whole Potter thing again, because you know, I think what happens today is we

620
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,480
think if we can get people to call us a pot, even though we're clay, then we must be a

621
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,480
pot.

622
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,480
We're the cool pot.

623
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,560
No, no, no, you're not a pot unless the Potter, right?

624
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,760
Fully fashioned you.

625
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,960
There's no shortcut and I feel like people don't understand to be used like you were

626
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:17,960
used.

627
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:18,960
God never adopts vessels.

628
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,200
In other words, he's not going to let someone else make you and they got, I'm adopting,

629
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,200
I'm going to use you and you're going to have this platform.

630
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,480
You're going to have a mic in your hand.

631
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,640
You're going to have whatever followers or whatever influence you have to pay the price

632
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,080
and you paid that price.

633
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,520
And then when that moment came, you were obedient because, you know, if you're trying to be

634
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,480
cool, you're trying to be the it girl.

635
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,160
If you want living right, you don't have boldness to call people to something you're

636
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,160
not living.

637
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,720
So if you aren't living it in front of them, and I think a lot of people want to be used

638
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,360
to have this voice and influence, but in your day to day life, you disqualify whatever voice

639
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,920
and influence God could give you because your articulation doesn't match your appearance.

640
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,200
You know, people look at you and go, what are you talking about?

641
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,200
Like, no, that's not you.

642
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,920
And so you have to be willing to live that life that's set apart.

643
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,880
And in order to do it, you know, the Bible says if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it

644
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:13,240
out, your hand causes you to sin, cut it off your feet cause you to stumble, cut it off.

645
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:19,680
And if you think about it, that is just being ruthless, which leads us to this quick little

646
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,960
excerpt we're going to have as we take a pause to do this.

647
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,320
And we're going to come right back to Chris's interview, but a great friend of ours, you're

648
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,400
well aware of him, Tommy O'Riome.

649
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:34,160
He talked about this incredible phrase that I think you've got to hear as it relates to

650
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,160
our entire thing, the price tag of spiritual greatness.

651
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,160
Pack it up.

652
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,460
For one of you, I wish I could grab your face and tell you this.

653
00:32:40,460 --> 00:32:43,320
Opportunity does not respect your excuse.

654
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,880
You would think opportunity would wait for you to grieve the burial of your child.

655
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,720
And yet opportunity will not respect it.

656
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,820
Everybody's like, God's called me to be a Ruth.

657
00:32:53,820 --> 00:32:56,200
You're not ruthless enough to be Ruth.

658
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,640
Ruth lost her husband.

659
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,400
Ruth lost her father in law.

660
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,840
Ruth lost any possibility of having children.

661
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,640
Now, me didn't just lose her husband.

662
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,960
She lost her kids, my love, and kill on.

663
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,040
She is grieving threefold.

664
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:14,080
And yet she heard that God had visited his children in Israel in sending them bread and

665
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,560
she packed her bags grieving.

666
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,560
You're not ruthless enough to be Ruth.

667
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,560
Wow.

668
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,560
Was that powerful?

669
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:26,160
That whole thing of, oh my gosh, you're not ruthless enough to be Ruth.

670
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,360
My goodness.

671
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,360
My goodness.

672
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,760
I tell you what, Tommy can break open the word of God like nobody's business.

673
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,560
I have preached Ruth, but I've never pulled that out of it.

674
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,280
I'm going to borrow that from here on out.

675
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,960
That is so profound.

676
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:38,960
That is so profound.

677
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:39,960
I love it.

678
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:40,960
But it's so true.

679
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,480
You know, because even before we went into Tommy's excerpt and I want to stay in this

680
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,720
vein, it's like it really does require you to get ruthless in your life.

681
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:49,720
It requires you.

682
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,360
And one of the areas, because as I'm hearing Tommy's thing, I'm thinking, man, what area

683
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,020
did I have to go ruthless in?

684
00:33:55,020 --> 00:33:56,320
And mine was man pleasing.

685
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,160
I had to break every shred of what anyone thought of me holding me back.

686
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:06,680
What has been fundamental in my anointing and my calling is I cannot have one shred

687
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,240
of what does man's pleasing within me with my prophetic gift.

688
00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:16,520
I have to be willing to break things open and I have to be willing to be bold and prophesy

689
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,500
and say things and declare things that are unprecedented.

690
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:21,500
That might even be uncomfortable.

691
00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:25,760
But I tell you what, when you follow the spirit of God, it breaks things open.

692
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:31,840
There's a ruthlessness that has been required of the call and I love how Tommy just says

693
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,720
it so precisely, succinctly.

694
00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:37,200
It really is something we don't quite think about.

695
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,000
You have to get ruthless over the call of God in your life.

696
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,000
I love that.

697
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,520
And as you talk about Ruth had experienced that level of loss.

698
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,840
She experienced death of husband, family members.

699
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,320
She's with her people, but has to make a decision that I'm even going to leave my people and

700
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,640
go back, of course, with Naomi to her people.

701
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,080
And you preach an incredible message on that.

702
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:04,000
And I think today we will serve God and we'll make sacrifices until something doesn't go

703
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,000
our way.

704
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:11,120
And the takeaway that I kind of got from Tommy is that's really at the point when the potter

705
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,240
is forming you to become that vessel that you could raise the dead.

706
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:17,440
You could speak and bring revival.

707
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,840
You could be having overseas crusades or you could be at Microsoft.

708
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,600
You could be at Metta.

709
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,720
You could be at Amazon and you could be having board rooms.

710
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:27,760
You could be in Hollywood.

711
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:33,560
You could be on the athletic field or government or wherever teacher education segment, but

712
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,120
it's just so important that you say yes to God and understand.

713
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,320
I think people don't realize is the hotter the furnace, the finer the vessel.

714
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:48,160
Ruth was willing to go through the fire and what you're describing to me, Christa, you're

715
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,680
willing to go through the fire.

716
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,680
And so that leads me to this question and we're going to begin to wind it up.

717
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,160
But have you ever received opposition as a female preacher?

718
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,160
I love it.

719
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,160
You just laugh.

720
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,120
I mean, people, what I laugh is you're the one that goes through all our social media

721
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,080
and deletes all the opposition and all the haters.

722
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,080
True, true.

723
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,920
You're the one on assignment for that because you graciously guard me.

724
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,840
So I don't have to read people's foolishness and hate.

725
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,840
Thank you.

726
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,000
So I appreciate that.

727
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:24,160
You know, it doesn't jar me in the sense of it will never thwart me or take me out of

728
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,160
position.

729
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:33,360
But have I experienced opposition 110% absolutely the day since I started prophesying and preaching,

730
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,680
I literally have never not received opposition.

731
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:37,680
Wow.

732
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:43,800
So literally that is the man pleasing that had to go down to the nubs in me that in order

733
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:49,960
to walk out the call of God and to be who I am today, if I would have had one ounce where

734
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,760
man's opinion had greater weight than God's opinion, I would not be here today.

735
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,480
And so God's opinion has to must have a greater weight than man's opinion.

736
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:05,400
And that will only happen through a life where you have just said, it's all about you.

737
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,400
It's for you.

738
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,800
It's for your glory and where you have not made your life about you.

739
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,640
You know, I've shared this publicly.

740
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,880
I've shared this in my book.

741
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,360
You know, I've had people get up, stage a silent protest while I've preached.

742
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:26,000
I've had newspapers and radio stations not willing to post or play any of my sermons

743
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,200
because I'm a woman.

744
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,200
Wow.

745
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:33,920
To this day, if I preach and prophesy and there's clips that go out to this day 2023,

746
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:40,600
come on, we will, I will have people say hateful, vile things against me and Sean graciously

747
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,840
deletes all of that.

748
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:48,760
I've had YouTube videos made against me and Sean graciously petitioned to got those removed.

749
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:53,000
So I have a husband that looks out for me and guards me, but does it hurt me?

750
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,000
Nope.

751
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,000
It really doesn't.

752
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,440
Does it, does it discourage me?

753
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,440
No.

754
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,640
It makes me sad for them that they're missing out on half the body of Christ that has a

755
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:03,640
word right now.

756
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,640
Right.

757
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,440
But it really doesn't affect me because I know I'm cold.

758
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:13,200
And when you know you're cold, you don't take the bait of that religious spirit because

759
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,360
that's exactly what it is.

760
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:19,740
The religious spirit hates the female preacher hates the female prophet hates it.

761
00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:25,600
And so everything about what I represent as a, as a prophet and as a preacher, ooh, everything

762
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,440
about what I carry or the religious spirit hates.

763
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,680
And so, you know, I actually look at, uh, when I have protests, you were with me one

764
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,120
time when I showed up in a town and there was actually picketers and signs and people carrying

765
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,800
signs protesting that I was there preaching and prophesying.

766
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,600
I look at it as encouragement.

767
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,960
Uh, that's the way I'm wired.

768
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,040
I'm kind of like, I must be doing something right because I'm stirring the enemy's camp

769
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,520
and the enemy wouldn't be coming at me if I wasn't taken background.

770
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,600
And so I just look at it as a compliment.

771
00:38:55,600 --> 00:39:00,480
But I tell you what, if you have man pleasing in you, you will not walk in the fullness

772
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,480
of who you are.

773
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,480
That is something that has to get sifted out of you.

774
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,480
So good.

775
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,000
And that's because you have to be able to get off a platform.

776
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,760
And even if no one in the room tells you that it was right and that doesn't mean you're

777
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,720
not teachable, I do want to say, you never want to be rebellious.

778
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:16,320
You don't want them to be teachable.

779
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,000
There's a balance to what I'm saying.

780
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,840
But when I know I've heard from God, even if it doesn't land with people I love, but

781
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,520
I know I've heard from God for my years and my history again, in my teachable, God willing,

782
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,480
I pray I'm always teachable and I always want to be able to be moldable and get feedback.

783
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:37,240
But you also have to be confident that you've heard the Lord and that is a lifelong journey.

784
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:39,920
The Lord has you on as a woman of God.

785
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,800
And for that matter, as a follower of Jesus, I just think we're in the days where the haters

786
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:45,800
have arisen.

787
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,880
And so you've got to know who you are.

788
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,760
But opposition, honestly, I just expect it.

789
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,480
And that's not out of like making the enemy big.

790
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,160
I just expect it just doesn't shock me anymore.

791
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,200
So it's kind of a, it's a moot point, as we would say.

792
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,200
Yes.

793
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,440
And the Bible says, in fact, all those who desire to live a Godly life will be persecuted.

794
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:10,120
And Jesus said, blessed are you when men speak evil and wrongful things about you.

795
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,920
So God pronounces blessing there.

796
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,640
And you know, we have to understand that clay has to pass through the fire into the day.

797
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,120
You don't take anything away from Jeremiah 18.

798
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,280
You got to understand that clay must pass through the fire.

799
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,880
And if it doesn't, it never can become a pot.

800
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,680
And again, what we're saying is that we want our lives to ring for eternity.

801
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,000
We want our lives to matter.

802
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,040
We want to be used for something that God can, he gave his life for us.

803
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,200
He shed his blood for us.

804
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,360
He put his spirit inside of us.

805
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,200
He's given us breath in our lungs.

806
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,880
He's put an anointing on our life to influence people.

807
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:50,360
And if we don't steward that properly and we don't understand, we can miss out.

808
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,200
And there's even this thing in Genesis too that it said, up to this point, it had never

809
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,040
rained on the earth.

810
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,200
It had never rained.

811
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,120
But the Bible explained it says only a mist came up and that's kind of how you'd water

812
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,120
plants.

813
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:07,160
But the Bible says in Genesis 2, verse 515, there was no outpour of the spirit.

814
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,920
One translation said, because there was no man to tell the garden.

815
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,080
So there's certain things, maybe even in the air of revival and operating on the spirit,

816
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,800
God waits for usable vessels that have gone through the different testings and different

817
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:20,800
places.

818
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,480
They've said yes to God.

819
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,160
They've gone through the fire.

820
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:29,120
They've made the consecration, because consecration, holiness, when God is looking for people,

821
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,000
it's pretty obvious what he looks for first of all.

822
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,400
You don't look at our appearance.

823
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,480
The Bible's pretty clear.

824
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,000
Samuel, when he found David, God looks at the heart.

825
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,160
And when I think about that, I think of Christ the God has given you the most amazing heart.

826
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:48,000
I could truly say that as your husband, the way you are broken before the Lord.

827
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,640
You have a heart for people, the way you'll linger at the altar.

828
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,320
You'll pray for the last person.

829
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,560
You'll prophesy, you'll get up and go forward.

830
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,440
I think it's so important.

831
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,040
And maybe it's the final question that I'd ask you, because there's so many things, and

832
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,200
we'll probably just have another conversation interview.

833
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,760
Why do you think it's important for people to be true to the call of God on their life

834
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:15,200
and to the upward summons of being a vessel of spiritual greatness?

835
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:20,640
You know, I think we're in an hour where we have to really realize the necessity and the

836
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,440
need for authentic followers of Jesus.

837
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,120
And so asking that question of why is it so important?

838
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,520
It's because history demands it.

839
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,480
And our present day needs it.

840
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:38,080
We're in a moment where we don't have the option, or if you want to call it a luxury,

841
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,680
to live a subpar vanilla version Christianity.

842
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:47,760
It requires you to live a Christianity in this hour that is authentic, that is radical,

843
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,240
that is fully and completely for the things of God.

844
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:57,920
Because a mixture version disciple of Jesus is not going to change culture and shift things

845
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:58,960
in darkness.

846
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:04,000
The only way we're going to see the breakthrough in the hour that we live in right now in our

847
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:09,680
nation, I can speak specifically in California, is a Holy Ghost remnant of believers that are

848
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,640
actually here to put a stake in the ground and say, God, we recognize the moment we're

849
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,360
in a history and we have to see a change.

850
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,440
And the change comes through us living fully and completely for the Lord.

851
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:28,960
And so I think that I grew up through the 80s and the 90s, and there was a lot of pomp and

852
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:29,920
circumstance.

853
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:36,560
There was a lot of shininess to the gospel and the presentation of the gospel.

854
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,760
And I feel like in 2023, we're just getting down to the basics.

855
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,680
We're just going real simple.

856
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:47,280
It's almost like we're taking the lights out, the fog machines being removed, the runway

857
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,880
shows being taken out.

858
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:54,960
It's just like, come ready to enter in, to contend, to weep, to tarry, to believe that

859
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,160
God is going to move.

860
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,920
And I feel like that's the hour we're in.

861
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,600
That's the authentic gospel.

862
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:05,280
It's not this shiny packaged version of Christianity.

863
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,080
It's a, let's get down and let's get to it.

864
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,640
And I feel like that's where we're at right now, as the church.

865
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,280
That's where we're at and where we need to be as believers.

866
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:18,400
So I hope I'm answering your question correctly, but I feel like it's really this place of

867
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,200
being completely sold out, uncompartmentalized before the Lord that, like you said, and I

868
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,200
love it.

869
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,760
I'm going to just keep borrowing your statement.

870
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,720
He isn't looking for some room in our lives.

871
00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:29,440
He's looking for all the room of our lives.

872
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,200
Like, he's not looking for part of your heart.

873
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,280
He's wanting all of your heart.

874
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,920
He's not looking for some space.

875
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,120
He wants all the space.

876
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:41,720
And I just feel like we're in this, we're in this holy redesign, reshift, recalibration

877
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:47,960
in the church right now, where believers are getting set on fire, like, like nobody's business.

878
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,800
And I do have to say this, you know, I didn't expect to cry.

879
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,440
I got emotional on this and I thought, Oh my goodness, why am I getting emotional?

880
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:59,400
And I think because I recognize everything that the Lord has done in many of us, including

881
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,760
myself, but I think I'm reminded of my own story.

882
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,200
But I think people are going to be reminded by listening to even me talk.

883
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,760
They're going to be reminded of their own story of everything God has done in two, in

884
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,800
our lives is for this moment.

885
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,480
I feel like we have been in a, we've been in decades of preparation for this hour.

886
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,880
Like this is the hour.

887
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,200
It's like the full roars coming out, the full unleashing being released.

888
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,480
And so I just want to encourage you, keep it 100 tribe.

889
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,880
Like it's time to go for it.

890
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,200
Like it's, it's not a whole back season.

891
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,920
It's a throw it all in, throw in the kitchen sink.

892
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,160
Like, let's just go.

893
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,640
Like it's all chips in on the table.

894
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:36,640
We're doing this.

895
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:42,040
So I just think we have to live authentically because we have lived, we have shown the world

896
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,040
for too long.

897
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:48,600
A mixture version of a follower of Jesus and it has done nothing but cause confusion and

898
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:49,600
heartache.

899
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:50,600
That's so well said.

900
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,120
And you know, Christy, I was thinking about America's first foreign missionary was a guy

901
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,520
by the name of Adiram Judson.

902
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,560
Judson endured heart rendering suffering during 37 years in Burma.

903
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,920
So he's, he was America's first missionary, 37 years in Burma.

904
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,280
He's left behind family and friends, a promising career in Boston.

905
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:13,080
He had to master the complex Burmese language without the aid of any textbooks.

906
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,120
And there certainly weren't any apps that we now have that you can learn these languages

907
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,120
real quick.

908
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,680
You have no Google language.

909
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:24,320
He labored six years in Burma before winning one person to Christ.

910
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:29,520
Imagine six years while on the mission field, he suffered the untimely depths of two wives.

911
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,480
That would be one at a time for those of you who don't know that three children, a number

912
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,360
of coworkers, Judson was incarcerated for nearly two years in a mind-numbling squalid

913
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,360
prison.

914
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,160
He was emaciated, filthy, shackled, hanging upside down most of the time.

915
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,640
His few Burmese followers faced a constant threat of persecution.

916
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,600
Still Judson persevered in his work of preaching and translation.

917
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,360
When he returned to Boston after he somehow got out of prison, it was God.

918
00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:01,200
For his only furlough in 37 years, he was asked by a prominent interviewer, do you think

919
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,440
the prospects are bright for the speedy conversion of the event?

920
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,320
Judson promptly replied as bright as the promises of God.

921
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:14,920
And today, thanks to Judson's pioneering work, there are at least four million Christians

922
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:15,920
in Burma.

923
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,680
And he proves to me that there is a price tag, but spiritual greatness on the other

924
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,080
end is so worth it.

925
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,400
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926
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,000
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00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,040
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Stay tuned and remember, relief may change your circumstance, but a revelation will change

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you.

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We hope you enjoyed today's episode of the Keep It 100 podcast with Sean and Christa

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Smith.

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Keep up with us on Facebook and Instagram and Seanandchristasmith.com, where you can

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