Nov. 17, 2025

(291) “Heavenly Revelations in Jerusalem” with Dean Braxton

(291) “Heavenly Revelations in Jerusalem” with Dean Braxton
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(291) “Heavenly Revelations in Jerusalem” with Dean Braxton

When Dean Braxton experienced Heaven, he saw many things that he did not understand, but he knew that the keys to understanding those things were awaiting him in Israel and with the Jewish people. So Dean recently joined the Busses in Israel for the very first time, and the things that God has shown him are astounding!

Join the Busses and Dean from the House of Peace in Jerusalem as they unpack some of these exciting revelations. There are many things from the Israeli culture that are actually patterned from Moses’s interactive heavenly experience, and those things were meant to portray Heaven and the family of God on the earth. Tune in to discover how elements of the tribes and the priesthood speak to how family is experienced in Heaven, and what this means for your family on earth and for God’s family in the Church worldwide. You won’t want to miss this one!

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Convention 2026: May 21-24, 2026

“Tribes of Israel” by Gwen Shaw (Binder)

“Tribes of Israel” by Gwen Shaw (PDF)

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Previous Episodes with Dean Braxton:

(255) Answering Listener Questions with Dean Braxton (Part 2)

(250) Answering Listener Questions with Dean Braxton (Part 1)

(241) “Around the Throne” with Dean Braxton

(238) “Enhancing Worship into Expansion and Revival” with Dean Braxton

(237) “One of Heaven’s Best-Kept Secrets—The Joy of Serving”

(230) “Rest to Increase Your Authority”

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But, you know, when I was with the Father and

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Jesus in heaven, there were things that I was

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experiencing there that when I came back to earth,

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I thought to myself, it's not a Jewish culture.

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It's not an Israeli culture. It's a heavenly

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culture. And there were things that God gave

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the Jewish people or the Israelites that were

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really a representative of heaven. And he meant

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for these people to be able to portray that on

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this planet. God promises in Joel 2 .28 to pour

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out His Spirit on all humanity. Welcome to Global

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Outpouring, where we contend for that promise

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outpouring, we equip for that outpouring, so

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that we may engage in that very outpouring. I'm

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Philip Buss. And I'm Sharon Buss. Welcome to

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the podcast today. Wow, have we got an episode

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for you. We are here in Jerusalem with our dear

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friend, Dean Braxton, the man that we know that

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went to heaven for an hour and 45 minutes while

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his body was being worked on in the hospital.

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The doctor said he was really, really dead for

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a long time. And this is his first opportunity

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to come to Israel. He said that he saw things

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in heaven that he didn't understand, but he knew

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that the Jewish people would understand them.

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He knew that there was something that was hidden

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in scripture that he wasn't seeing yet, but he

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was going to learn about it when he came here.

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And we have just had an interview with him that

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you're going to enjoy where he's just beginning

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to unpack some of the things that he saw, heavenly

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revelations in Jerusalem. Thank you so much for

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joining us today. Before we get started, we want

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If you're being blessed by this content that

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we have, if you're being built up in the Word

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and being built up in the Spirit, that's what

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this podcast is all about, to equip you to contend

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for the outpouring and to participate in the

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outpouring, to engage in what God is doing in

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the earth in these days. And I also want to encourage

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you to put it on your calendar to come to the

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Global Outpouring Convention 2026. to be held

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in St. Louis, Missouri at the Hilton Hotel by

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the airport. It's very near the airport, just

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a couple of blocks down from where we were last

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time. And it's going to be a wonderful opportunity.

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And Dean Braxton is going to be one of our speakers.

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So we want to really encourage you to come and

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participate in that life -changing experience

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and begin to make relationships with real people

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and not just listening, as good as a podcast

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is, not just... listening to podcasts, but to

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really meet people and to begin to form eternal

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relationships, because that's what this is all

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about. All the stuff we're doing here on the

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planet, as Dean says, is really all about eternity.

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We've been given assignments here on the earth

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that have to do with eternity. So we want to

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encourage you to participate in every way that

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you can in things that have an eternal value.

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Well, Dean, it's a delight to have you with us

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here in Jerusalem. We've been talking about this

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for some years already. Right, right. And I remember

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when, I guess we'd gotten to know each other

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a little bit, but you told us that you had seen

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things in heaven that you didn't understand,

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but you knew that the Jewish people would understand,

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and you were looking forward to this. Give us

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a little bit more of your... Well, first of all,

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thank you for joining us. And just give us a

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little bit more of your expectations and then

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just roll with whatever you want to unpack from

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what you've seen while we've been here together.

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You know, Sharon and Phil, it's really great

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to be able to do this. I'm excited about unpacking

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this, not only in this podcast, but also in future

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podcasts. I can see God really taking this and

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moving it even further. I don't know what to

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tie to it. I kind of like saying Jerusalem and

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heaven are Israelites and the heavenly encounter

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I had and how that... connects together. I don't

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really know how to title it yet or even say,

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you know, how to frame it. But, you know, when

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I was with the Father and Jesus in heaven, there

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were things that I was experiencing there that

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when I came back to earth, I thought to myself,

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it's not a Jewish culture. It's not an Israeli

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culture. It's a heavenly culture. And there were

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things that God gave the Jewish people or the

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Israelites that were really a representative

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of. heaven. And he meant for these people to

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be able to portray that on this planet. You know,

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there's that scripture says, you know, our Father

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who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy

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kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it

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is in heaven. And we think about that when Jesus

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spoke it. But the reality of it, that was something

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that God gave to the Jewish people way back when

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Abraham believed that it was accounted unto him

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as righteousness. And I've always had a heart

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to come. to Jerusalem and see where the connection

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is. That was something I desired right after

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I came back to the planet. I can remember having

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this desire to want to connect those things with

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the things that the Jewish people or the Israelites

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were used to. It was like there were things that

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they assumed we knew about that were really connected

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to heaven. And when we read our word or read

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the Bible, We're missing out on some things because

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it's part of their culture. Because I think sometimes

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what has happened is that we've looked at it

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and said, oh, that's Old Testament. That really

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doesn't apply to the New Testament. You know,

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even though we say the Bible, which is all books

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in the Old Testament and all the books in the

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New Testament. But we kind of like we're separated.

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We're just people that live in the New Testament

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instead of the Old Testament. But if God, in

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the sense of what I experienced, really did give.

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heavenly substance to the Jewish people and how

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they were to walk on this planet, then you cannot

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separate it. It has to go together to really

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understand the New Testament, to really get the

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power that we were given from God even way back.

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In those days when Abraham believed that it was

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accounted unto him as righteousness, or Moses

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when he traveled out of Egypt into the promised

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land, as in the sense of Joshua really got into

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the promised land. But there were things that

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I wanted to connect in that sense. And being

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here in Jerusalem and Israel, I'm telling you

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something right now. It's been overwhelming.

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I even see more than I thought I would see in

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the sense of the connections here. You know,

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it's great to go. around and visit the different

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places. And yeah, there is a sense of the spiritual

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aspect of things. But when I see these things

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that the Israelites had put together or the Jewish

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people had put together or the Levites were supposed

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to be doing, I look at them. I said, that right

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there, there it is right there, that little thing.

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I saw it in heaven. And now I see the connection

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that God wanted that to be put on the planet

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to the point that. Everything's alive. There's

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nothing dead. A couple of people that were with

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me, and we would look at the Ark of the Covenant,

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and they have the cherubim zone and the angels

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on the side. And they asked me a question. They

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said, are they really like that? And I looked

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at them in such a way like, they're alive. Yeah,

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yeah. This representation here is not the living

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thing. Well, we froze them in time. Oh, good

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way to put it. They're not frozen in time. so

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there's movements in that sense of being over

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it's so many different forms and it was like

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they're alive and it was like looking at them

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like don't you know they're alive they're not

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dead you know i mean it's not one though and

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here we think sometimes that that form or that

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structure or that the way it was made that's

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the way it is always and it's not You know, because

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you got live beings there. You don't have a guy

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took a picture and said, hey, this is how it's

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going to be. They're moving all the time. Yes,

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beautiful. And you know what's so cool about

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it? Let me go a little bit farther with that.

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Please. They're part of the angels that are flying

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around listening to God and saying, holy, holy,

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holy, thou art holy. So they're not stuck on

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the Ark of the Covenant in a model. They can

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leave and go around the throne of God and say,

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holy, holy, holy, thou art holy. Wow. Glory to

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God. So they're not constantly hovering over

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the mercy seat. No. Well, they're constantly

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hovering in the sense that God's constantly hovering

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over the mercy seat. Well, there you go. There

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you go. The mercy seat. We would call it beneath

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God. I can't really say it's beneath God because

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in heaven there's no up or down or anything like

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that. But within the midst of God, there is the

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mercy seat. You know what I mean? Within the

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midst, not on the outside, not around him. in

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the midst of him. So you got these angels that

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literally go into that midst of God and they're

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over the mercy seat, but they're going around

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the throne of God also saying, holy, holy, holy,

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thou art holy. Now you take that as a motion

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picture, it gives you a whole different view

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of what was really taken on when God had put

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that symbol of that representation of heaven

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on this planet. Beautiful, beautiful. Well, I've

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always, well, I don't know if it's always, but

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I've had the understanding that when Moses was

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on Mount Sinai with God in his presence, that

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God caught him up to heaven and showed him heaven,

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showed him what it's like, and said, okay, now

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here's how I want you to represent it on earth.

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Yeah. So that you've got... Because on earth,

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you have such a thing as inanimate objects. Yes.

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In other words, objects that are not alive. Yes.

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We don't consider stones to be alive. We don't

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consider gold to be alive. Once you cut down

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the tree, we don't consider it to be alive. You

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know, to make the Ark of the Covenant, you've

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got gold and you've got... The shatim tree that's

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been cut. The wooden box. The wooden box. Gold

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covered. It's a gold box inside of a wooden box

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inside of a gold box. And then that's all covered

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with gold. And then there's the gold mercy seat

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and then the gold cherubim. But those are on

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the earth inanimate. Correct. But not in heaven.

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Not in heaven. Everything. Like the gold in heaven.

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is alive, right? It's alive. It's living. You

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know, I say it thinks it's intelligent. All the

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things that we think about as a person being

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alive. Here you have all these things. items

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in heaven but they're alive now how do you capture

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that the thing about capturing something here

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on the planet is once you capture it you're only

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capturing the image at that moment the next moment

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it's a whole different image and the next moment

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it's a whole different image and the next moment

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it's a whole different image so the image you

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have here on the planet is for that moment but

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what was the next moment you know i think about

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what you just said in the sense of moses being

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taken up and and being shown these things which

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i can go with that whether he left the planet

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or not he was shown these things right and when

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he was shown these things it wasn't like he was

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shown like a movie theater we went to the movie

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and paid our ticket and we went in and we sat

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down the seat. And the next thing you know, we're

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watching this movie go before us. He participated

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in it. So he literally, we would say he would

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become part of the movie. He wasn't just a viewer

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of the movie. He was part of the movie. So he

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would have been able to touch the Ark of the

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Covenant. He would have been able to experience

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the angels or the cherubim flying around and

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the motion being moved in heaven. He would have

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been able to experience the glory of God or the

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midst of God around him. So it wasn't just a

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movie theater type of representation. And the

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reason I say whether he went or not, because

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you don't really care if you went or not, you're

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in it. You know what I mean? So it's like Paul

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said, whether I was in the body or out of the

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body, it doesn't matter. I was there. That's

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all that really matters. Yes. And so in saying

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that to you, it comes back to really looking

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at what God was trying to give to the Israelites

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or the people here on the planet to be able to

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represent that. on the planet, which is also

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in heaven. One of the things I'd like to point

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out here is that when he did do these things,

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Moses did these things and put these things together,

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everything was still alive. Even the inanimate

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objects we had here were alive because God was

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imparted within those items. They still had...

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life in them. That's why when David was moving

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the Ark of the Covenant from one place to another

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place, and someone touched it, and they said

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they touched it wrong, and he died, because they're

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alive. And the power of that item was still powerful,

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because God was within that. He just didn't say,

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I'm taking a picture of something, and I'm putting

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it down there, and he didn't have nothing to

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do with it after that. He was still very much

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involved with that, because that's God. That's

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who he is. And so the power that probably came

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off and all of a sudden the man's physical body

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could not handle it, you know, is really God

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himself that he experienced. Wow. That's even

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thinking about it. You know what I mean? You

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know, and that's before we really dwelled with

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the Holy Spirit. So now we have the Holy Spirit

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inside of us. And if we have the presence of

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God because of the Holy Spirit on the inside

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of us, we don't get shocked. Next thing you know,

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we're not around. You know what I mean? Have

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a bigger transformer. Yeah. That's good. We don't

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have that experience because we have the Holy

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Spirit on the inside. That's a game changer.

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You know what I mean? That's a whole game changer.

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But they didn't have that at the time. And so

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their experiencing of these things is without

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God Almighty and the sense of the Holy Spirit

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living on the inside of them. You know, now you

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can even say when Jesus said, I give you a helper.

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What is that really that helper doing? He's helping

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you to experience the spiritual realm without

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dying. Wow. That's really good. That is amazing.

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So that was one moment here that you've just

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kind of gone all the way around. Can I ask one

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before we continue? Is there anything on earth

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that we see in scripture that holds the glory

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of God that would be alive like that other than

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the ark? You know, all the items that we saw

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so far and anything related to the tabernacle

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period or the temple period. that was directed

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by God to be designed and put together, all of

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those things have life within them. It doesn't

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matter how big they are or how small they are.

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Every one of them have life. Literally, wow,

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this is even more powerful than when you think

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about it. Even the priest's garments, okay? We

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look at it as this just represents something.

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No, you don't understand. God is the designer

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of it. He gave command to implement it. And this

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goes right along with heaven. There's a lot of

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things when you get to heaven, God is still designing

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and still creating. And he's giving his redeem

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to implement it. Okay. That's a whole different

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area to go into. Save that for another podcast.

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We're still implementing the things of God, even

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though he's the creator. So you've got these

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garments. We were up there looking at the place

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where Jesus was supposed to be born at the other

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day. Remember that? Yes. And you talked about

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the swallowing clothes. And you're talking about

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how those were the clothes that worn out. Yeah,

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the Levites or the priests, their garments. when

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they were worn out, would be turned into strips

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for swaddling clothes for the lambs that would

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be sacrificed. Well, if you think of that, if

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they are doing it the way God wants them to do

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it, that still has life within it. So did you

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hear what I just said? So life was being wrapped

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around the sheep. And then when Jesus was born,

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God himself, the life was wrapped around. Jesus

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Christ. Beautiful. The anointing. When we talk

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about anointing, we talk about like oil being

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poured on, which is some of the, you got to,

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God is literally pouring out his life within

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that situation. Yes. And in that darkness has

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to leave. Darkness has to go in that sense, you

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know, and saying that to you. Everything that

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God—I'm watching all these items that we've seen

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so far here in Jerusalem. You know, me and you

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are going to go through each item. I'm going

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to go through the Bible. I'm going to break it

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down. Me and you are going to go ahead and talk

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about each item because each item is a world

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within itself. Wow. You know, I always tell people

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when I was in heaven that the very leaves on

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the tree was like a universe, if you want to

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understand. Wow. And you think about all the

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different leaves on a tree, and every one is

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a universe. Wow. Well, that's the same thing

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when we think about these things that God gave

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the Israelites or the Jewish people to implement

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here on the planet. Everything is a world within

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itself. And the thing about that is we'll do

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the best we can. We'll have boundaries because

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of what we're doing, but there's no boundaries

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with God. So when we're talking about something

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just like we did with the Ark of the Covenant.

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That really doesn't have no boundaries. Someone's

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like, what's that, Melchizedek? You know, he

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said he had no beginning and no end. Now that's

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a whole different story. I got a new look on

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that like I've never had before. Me and you will

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tease it out and we'll break it up later on.

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in one of the podcasts that we do. But in reality,

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if you think about the life of God being implemented

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within everything that he does, you know, all

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the way to when we talk about the tabernacle

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and the way it was put together to the point

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of the temple and how God had that formed and

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why it was formed where it was. Did you hear

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what I said? We say build. No, formed. There's

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a whole different thinking when you look at forming

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something than building something. Wow. Can I

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ask a question? I rarely get to ask questions

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because it's always sure. It's like, with everything

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is alive, like the breastplate of the high priest.

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You know, I remember hearing Sister Dorn, you

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know, when she was teaching on the tabernacle.

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And another name I liked at Urim and Thummim

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was Lights and Perfection. And it was kind of

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her theory that maybe the stones would light

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up in a particular... code or something in order.

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And even like Saul, when he went to inquire by

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the Urim and Thummim and got no answer. And that

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was off the ephod of the high priest and David

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inquired of the Lord. Did you see anything in

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particular about that? You know, that's really

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something. Philip, that you bring that up because

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I skipped over it a few minutes ago because it's

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an explosion. I literally wanted to be able to

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go back to the Bible and look at that for a couple

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of reasons. Number one, I'm writing this book

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on meeting family in heaven, and I know how much

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that breastplate plays in family development

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on the planet, number one. You know, you have

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those colors there. All of those colors are represented

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in heaven and in the shades of each color. So

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you have the color and then the shade of each

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color. You know, my friend here, your friend

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too, Mary Lois, brought up a few things about

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how Gwen Shaw has written a book about the 12

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tribes. Yeah, the tribes of Israel. And the tribes

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of Israel. And I thought, man, I need to read

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that book because there is a connection between

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that book and myself. and what I experienced

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with the Father and Jesus in heaven. And so I

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think I'd be honest with you. I almost feel like

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God is saying to me, Gwen went so far in what

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she knew, and now you can take it the rest of

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the way. And so I'm going to go back and look

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at that book or read that book for the first

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time. And then I'm going to take that and move

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forward with it when it comes to family. plate

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is really representing family, you know, and

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how family is supposed to be eternal and the

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role of family. The Israelites were supposed

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to play that out here on the planet. That was

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God's plan. And that breastplate was supposed

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to be a reminder to them of their importance

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as families and fulfilling their role here on

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the planet. And so when you ask that question

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about it, it is very significant. significant

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but it is also one of those things that i feel

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like god has given me the responsibility to tease

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it out and bring it into that heavenly realm

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because again we're looking at it from an earthly

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round i remember when we were up what i call

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shiloh what do they call it shiloh you know and

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we were talking about the breath and the priest

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and we you know and they were bringing up things

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about the priest but i'm looking at the garments

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and what they're in i'm saying they're representing

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God's family here on the planet. That's what

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that was really about. The uniqueness of God's

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family here. Yeah, they were called Israelites

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and now we call them the Jewish people. But the

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reality, God had a plan for each one of those

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12 stones and their representation of the family

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here and the color. And every color has a sound.

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So there is a sound that goes along with every

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color. You know what I mean? So you just can't

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think about color and leave it at that. There's

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a sound that literally goes along with that.

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So what was the sound of that family? Somebody

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better grab what I just said there. Every family

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has a sound to it. When that sound is disrupted

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or broken, then the family goes through turmoil.

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But as long as the sound is still going, the

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pure sound that God gave from heaven. Then you've

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got harmony with it. And that's a good way of

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saying it. You guys are music people. You know

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how harmony is. Sure, sure. But it goes along

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with what you just said about the priests and

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what they were responsible. And I really believe

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if we had a way to dig into that with some of

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the teachings here in Jerusalem, that we would

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find, you know, there's the, I want to say, root.

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I was corrected the other day. And is that right

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now? They say root? Some people say root. Some

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people say root. Okay, root. Yeah, I was correct.

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So I'm trying to get that word. There's no U.

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It's R -O -O -T. Yeah, R -O -O -T. There's no

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U. Yeah. But I bet if we could, we would find

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it somewhere here where we're going to find out

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that breastplate was when it was first given.

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was to look at representing the israelites not

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as tribes as we think we have a hard time with

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that on the west you know we're westerners so

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we look at but in reality it's family and that's

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ingrained in this land yeah you know while you're

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talking about it it reminds me of two places

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in scripture the first one is in the book of

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joshua where the children of israel have come

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into the land And the first city that they conquer

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is Jericho. And God said to them, this whole

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thing is mine. Don't you touch anything of it

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there. You can't take anything as like your reward

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for war. The booty. There's no there's no you

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can't have this. This is mine. And and the principle,

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I think, is that the first fruits belong to the

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Lord. Right. So that that first city was the

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first fruits that all of it belonged to the Lord.

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It was all dedicated to God. It was holy to God.

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And Achan got tempted and he took this Babylonian

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garment and he took this wedge of gold. And I

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don't remember what else he took, but he had

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buried it in his tent. And then they weren't

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able to succeed in the next battle. And Joshua

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was crying before the Lord. The Lord says, drive

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your tears. There's sin in the camp. And they

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gathered around. And I believe that they used,

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whether it was the Urim and Tumim or whether

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it was the breastplate itself where it spells

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out or it highlights the tribe, the stone of

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that tribe. I'm not sure how it happened. But

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somehow they used that, I believe, to identify,

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okay, which tribe is it? Right. And then which

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family is it? Right. And the same thing was when,

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I believe, when Saul was being chosen to become

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the king and was anointed by Samuel, that the

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tribe of Benjamin was chosen and the family of

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Kish was chosen and then Saul was chosen. And

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I think that somehow it was being used. or the

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ephod, the breastplate was being used for that

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purpose. And I could see that very much happening

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due to the fact that, again, I would say life

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was in that. You know what I mean? And when life

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is in anything, I could see the lightening up.

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I could see the colors lightening up. You know,

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all of a sudden becoming brighter. And then a

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shade may become brighter. Do you understand

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what I'm talking about? I can see God. That's

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God. And most people, ah, because we're trying

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to look at it from a human point of view or our

00:26:34.259 --> 00:26:36.940
limitation point of view and trying to describe

00:26:36.940 --> 00:26:39.460
it from that end. And yet you've got to remember

00:26:39.460 --> 00:26:41.819
God can do these things. You know, there's many

00:26:41.819 --> 00:26:44.180
miracles he did in the wilderness, you know,

00:26:44.180 --> 00:26:47.160
that we can recall. But the reality of it is

00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:49.920
he could do it. He could light up a color and

00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:53.009
then make it. shade of it you know and who knows

00:26:53.009 --> 00:26:56.410
if the israelites are at that time each one knew

00:26:56.410 --> 00:27:00.269
their shade Oh, I wonder. It may have been a

00:27:00.269 --> 00:27:03.609
common that we are this shade, you know what

00:27:03.609 --> 00:27:06.569
I mean? And this is the shade of this color,

00:27:06.670 --> 00:27:08.609
you know, that type of thing. Because in heaven,

00:27:08.650 --> 00:27:10.569
when you get there, you're going to see so many

00:27:10.569 --> 00:27:12.849
different shades. Right. You know what I mean?

00:27:12.890 --> 00:27:16.549
All kinds of shades of colors there. And God

00:27:16.549 --> 00:27:19.930
is still producing colors. I didn't see him changing

00:27:19.930 --> 00:27:23.089
anyone's redeem color or anything like that.

00:27:23.210 --> 00:27:25.569
I'm not saying he's not doing it. I just did

00:27:25.569 --> 00:27:29.200
see it. Right. reality of it is people were identified

00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:33.259
by their family color. And I know people say,

00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:36.019
but what about this? I don't know. He did it.

00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:40.759
I just saw it. And the closest I can come is

00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:43.359
that breastplate that's on the priest. You understand

00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:47.319
what I mean? Which represents the priest is representing

00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:50.200
who at that moment? Who is the priest representing?

00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:56.619
Jesus. So you think about that part of it. We're

00:27:56.619 --> 00:28:00.279
all connected because of him and the colors are

00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:02.740
shining. I just remember knowing there was no

00:28:02.740 --> 00:28:05.359
darkness in heaven. This just came to me. There's

00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:07.019
no darkness in heaven. Why wouldn't there be?

00:28:07.180 --> 00:28:09.900
I always say because the Father and Jesus shines

00:28:09.900 --> 00:28:13.200
out of everything. So you think about those colors.

00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:17.240
They are beautiful colors and Jesus and the Father

00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:19.920
is shining out of everybody. So I can see that

00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:22.000
with the breastplate you're just talking about,

00:28:22.099 --> 00:28:25.299
identifying. You know, someone that way that,

00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:27.400
you know, we could go on that forever. But I

00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:30.200
really want to look at that closer because of

00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:31.960
just the book I'm writing, you know, meeting

00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:34.640
family in heaven. Yeah. And I really believe

00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:37.319
that God wants me to bring out that color. Yeah.

00:28:37.779 --> 00:28:40.720
You know. And I think that each of the stones

00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:45.160
were engraved with the letters of the name of

00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.160
the tribe. Yeah. So that I've and I've heard

00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:50.900
this. I don't know if it's Jewish tradition or

00:28:50.900 --> 00:28:53.500
if it's. Talmud or Mishnah or something like

00:28:53.500 --> 00:28:55.420
that. I don't know if it's written or if it's

00:28:55.420 --> 00:28:57.940
just handed down, but I understand that there

00:28:57.940 --> 00:29:02.359
is something to the letters themselves lighting

00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:05.920
up and spelling things to give the message. Wow.

00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:09.180
I don't know if that's a fact. I don't know if

00:29:09.180 --> 00:29:11.019
you saw anything in heaven that would indicate

00:29:11.019 --> 00:29:13.339
that kind of thing. You know what I saw in heaven

00:29:13.339 --> 00:29:16.940
when you say that? When he says he's going to

00:29:16.940 --> 00:29:20.419
give us a new name, we think individually. God

00:29:20.419 --> 00:29:22.339
doesn't think individually. He thinks family.

00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:25.660
Okay. So the name that we're going to have is

00:29:25.660 --> 00:29:28.240
going to be a name that starts off with the family

00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:32.079
name. Okay. And then your name. Okay. And, you

00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.420
know, like we have our surnames, you know, Braxton

00:29:34.420 --> 00:29:37.400
is my surname. It comes at the end of Dean. You

00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.259
know what I mean? It would be like all the Braxons.

00:29:40.259 --> 00:29:42.980
And I don't want to know if the word Braxton

00:29:42.980 --> 00:29:44.779
is going to be there, but it'd be Braxton and

00:29:44.779 --> 00:29:47.019
then Dean. You know what I mean? It'd be bus.

00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:50.619
and then Sharon, or Bus, and then Phil. So there's

00:29:50.619 --> 00:29:52.380
going to be a new name that everyone's going

00:29:52.380 --> 00:29:54.980
to be identified for, but the beginning of it

00:29:54.980 --> 00:29:57.339
is going to be telling what family you belong

00:29:57.339 --> 00:30:01.819
to. Beautiful. You know, if you think about it,

00:30:01.940 --> 00:30:04.579
you have the children of Israel, and then you

00:30:04.579 --> 00:30:06.759
have the breastplate with all the individual

00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:10.259
tribes. But the children of Israel was first,

00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:14.859
and then each one of them, they're of the tribe

00:30:14.859 --> 00:30:19.859
of Judah. And then the name came. It sounds like

00:30:19.859 --> 00:30:22.839
you've got a genealogy. That's correct. Where

00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:27.779
you've got Judah and Phares and the next one

00:30:27.779 --> 00:30:32.640
and Minadab and Nachshon. And I think part of

00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:36.039
it is because in heaven, names are your purpose.

00:30:37.789 --> 00:30:40.809
You know, this group here does this. You know,

00:30:40.829 --> 00:30:42.890
we could go more into that because of the temple

00:30:42.890 --> 00:30:46.069
and the tabernacle and how families were called

00:30:46.069 --> 00:30:48.650
to serve. Right. You know, and they had their

00:30:48.650 --> 00:30:51.549
time of serving. Right. But the reality of it

00:30:51.549 --> 00:30:54.650
is if you break it down even more, these people

00:30:54.650 --> 00:30:57.190
are in charge of this. So their name will start

00:30:57.190 --> 00:30:59.289
off with whatever they're in charge of. And then

00:30:59.289 --> 00:31:03.650
within that breaking down of that name is you're

00:31:03.650 --> 00:31:07.559
in charge of this, but you do this part. Right.

00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.599
You're going to carry this piece of the tabernacle.

00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.920
That's right. And that would be your name. Oh,

00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:18.420
okay. And I'm breaking it down, okay, like the

00:31:18.420 --> 00:31:20.099
Ark of the Covenant and the people that carried

00:31:20.099 --> 00:31:25.000
it. You're the right front side. You're the left

00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:28.059
front side. And that would be your name. Wow.

00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:31.220
Well, didn't you tell us at one time that when

00:31:31.220 --> 00:31:34.890
you were in heaven, that God gave you the name,

00:31:34.930 --> 00:31:38.029
go back. Yeah, and that was because of my responsibility

00:31:38.029 --> 00:31:40.950
of coming back to the planet. You may remember,

00:31:41.109 --> 00:31:43.809
if we look at this from a heavenly point of view,

00:31:43.829 --> 00:31:45.230
I want to go back to that scripture that says,

00:31:45.289 --> 00:31:47.150
Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy

00:31:47.150 --> 00:31:49.109
name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth

00:31:49.109 --> 00:31:52.529
as it is in heaven. And I'm literally taking

00:31:52.529 --> 00:31:55.910
the colors now and making them more alive because

00:31:55.910 --> 00:31:58.630
in heaven, they're not a breastplate on somebody.

00:31:58.970 --> 00:32:02.960
The redeemed are the breastplate colors. The

00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:08.259
redeemed are the breastplate. Yes. Selah. Selah.

00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:10.660
Pause and think about that for just a second.

00:32:11.859 --> 00:32:16.740
Okay. So like on God's breastplate, is that what

00:32:16.740 --> 00:32:19.960
this is? This is what it is. And I want to break

00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:21.680
back in this because this is very significant

00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.059
too. Because we just think about the colors.

00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:27.359
But there's a sound with every color. So everybody

00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:30.839
has a sound. And in heaven, you're in harmony.

00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:34.259
Perfect harmony with your family, finally. That's

00:32:34.259 --> 00:32:36.000
a good way of putting it. I don't know about

00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.599
you, but when I think about being in perfect

00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:42.279
harmony with my family, that brings great joy

00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.279
to me. Oh, yes. Because on the planet, we try

00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:49.059
so hard to be imperfect. harmony with our family,

00:32:49.140 --> 00:32:51.359
not talking about other people outside of that.

00:32:51.539 --> 00:32:54.799
And again, we are all the family of God. I think

00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:56.740
I get that from people that have a hard time

00:32:56.740 --> 00:32:59.119
with their family. And so they don't want to

00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:01.019
be left out and say, no, no, that doesn't really

00:33:01.019 --> 00:33:04.519
matter. We are all the family of God. And they're

00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:07.000
right about that. We are all the family of God.

00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:10.119
But I want to be honest, understand there is

00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:14.460
within the family, a family. You know, there

00:33:14.460 --> 00:33:17.640
were the Israelites, and that was one family,

00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:20.759
one huge family. You take cousins, once removed,

00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.680
or cousins three times removed, or whatever you

00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:26.039
want to say, you know what I mean? Or uncle or

00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:29.220
auntie, all that type of stuff. But within that,

00:33:29.460 --> 00:33:33.759
all that stuff, there is also a family. And that

00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:37.779
family... The major reason for that is because

00:33:37.779 --> 00:33:41.079
that family was anointed. I put that word out

00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:45.440
there, chosen, given that life word to accomplish

00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.519
something in God's kingdom that was supposed

00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:52.859
to be eternal, not temporal. And there was no

00:33:52.859 --> 00:33:55.900
temporal assignment in heaven. They're eternal

00:33:55.900 --> 00:34:00.720
assignments. Wow. Okay. And so if you think about

00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:03.690
that, even here on the planet. Sometimes people

00:34:03.690 --> 00:34:07.250
don't realize there is literally no temporal

00:34:07.250 --> 00:34:10.449
assignments here. They're all eternal. I believe

00:34:10.449 --> 00:34:13.150
that. And I've been saying that to people about

00:34:13.150 --> 00:34:16.230
relationships. You know, when I meet people and

00:34:16.230 --> 00:34:18.989
we connect, you know, there's certain times that

00:34:18.989 --> 00:34:21.230
you really feel a connection with people. And

00:34:21.230 --> 00:34:23.610
I said, this is an eternal connection. It is.

00:34:23.710 --> 00:34:26.130
We may not meet again on this planet, but we

00:34:26.130 --> 00:34:29.960
have an eternal connection. And somehow. In eternity,

00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.500
we're going to be working together or at least

00:34:32.500 --> 00:34:35.280
acquainted or something. And I feel that way

00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:37.760
too with a lot of people. I feel like sometimes

00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.159
when I walk into a place, since I do a lot of

00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:43.360
meetings all over the place, I feel like sometimes

00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.099
I walk into a place and I know somebody. It is

00:34:47.099 --> 00:34:49.019
that I met him down the road or something like

00:34:49.019 --> 00:34:52.059
that. But our purpose was connected through Jesus.

00:34:52.260 --> 00:34:54.460
So now we're fulfilling our purpose together

00:34:54.460 --> 00:34:57.500
as we're moving forward. And it's an eternal

00:34:57.500 --> 00:35:00.519
purpose. And so it's almost like I walk in and

00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:03.059
I act like we've always known each other. Sometimes

00:35:03.059 --> 00:35:05.119
some people have a hard time with that because

00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:06.739
they're thinking, no, we got to go through the

00:35:06.739 --> 00:35:09.820
induction. I got to get to know you. You know,

00:35:09.860 --> 00:35:12.139
we got to see if you really, really who you are.

00:35:12.300 --> 00:35:15.500
And I understand that. But there's times when

00:35:15.500 --> 00:35:18.519
I want. walk in. I can walk into a church. It's

00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:21.039
like, I have been a part of this church since

00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:24.300
the beginning. And you all are people I know.

00:35:24.340 --> 00:35:27.000
And I talk to you like that. And I have to watch

00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.980
out because some people, they, who are you doing

00:35:29.980 --> 00:35:32.219
that? That's how I feel. That's how I really

00:35:32.219 --> 00:35:35.460
feel. I have no strangers in the kingdom of God.

00:35:35.739 --> 00:35:40.679
Amen. Amen. That's so beautiful. We're having

00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:43.280
some technical issues that have caused us to

00:35:43.690 --> 00:35:46.530
disconnect from each other and we're reconnected

00:35:46.530 --> 00:35:50.829
now. And so if the conversation seems a little

00:35:50.829 --> 00:35:53.070
disconnected, it's because we have to go back

00:35:53.070 --> 00:35:55.070
and figure out where we dropped the ball and

00:35:55.070 --> 00:35:58.409
come back together. So we were talking about

00:35:58.409 --> 00:36:03.070
the eternal connections and how, you know, relationships

00:36:03.070 --> 00:36:06.789
that start on the earth are for eternity. But

00:36:06.789 --> 00:36:09.659
now how do you see that? Is there some way to

00:36:09.659 --> 00:36:12.199
connect what we're talking about now to what

00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.539
you've seen here in Israel? You know, you've

00:36:15.539 --> 00:36:18.860
seen lots of things. And I know that you are

00:36:18.860 --> 00:36:21.800
wanting to unpack some things in your own study

00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:24.539
time before you bring them back to another episode

00:36:24.539 --> 00:36:29.239
of this podcast. But I want to just see if there's

00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:32.340
anything that you saw or that you have seen here

00:36:32.340 --> 00:36:36.039
in the spirit realm or connecting to what you

00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:38.760
saw in heaven. with regard to relationships?

00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:42.199
You know, I believe if we look at that as a whole

00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:44.780
package, what you're just talking about was the

00:36:44.780 --> 00:36:47.000
Israelites, you know, with the Jewish people,

00:36:47.099 --> 00:36:49.599
there's a different view that we need to look

00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:53.679
at them instead of just one group. Within the

00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:56.119
group, there are certain responsibilities that

00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:58.940
each portion was supposed to play. And I think

00:36:58.940 --> 00:37:02.960
they knew that as a nation. You could put it

00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:05.719
that way. And I think it was so ingrained with

00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.860
them that it was second nature to them to walk

00:37:08.860 --> 00:37:12.219
this way. But that wasn't portrayed. and many

00:37:12.219 --> 00:37:14.539
of the things that we now look at the Jewish

00:37:14.539 --> 00:37:17.420
people and see how they're acting. Even I think

00:37:17.420 --> 00:37:20.460
sometimes when I go around the city and I'm watching

00:37:20.460 --> 00:37:23.619
so many different sects, you could say, in the

00:37:23.619 --> 00:37:25.940
sense of this group is over here doing this,

00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:27.980
and this group is believing this, and this group

00:37:27.980 --> 00:37:30.800
is, and they're disjointed. Maybe the Pharisees

00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:32.679
and Sadducees started it out. I don't know who

00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:35.380
started it out, you know, but that God never

00:37:35.380 --> 00:37:38.550
meant for them to be disjointed like that. Yes.

00:37:38.750 --> 00:37:41.469
You know, he meant for them to be together, moving

00:37:41.469 --> 00:37:45.449
into saying maybe to understand the reason they're

00:37:45.449 --> 00:37:48.369
disjointed, just like the body of Christ. We

00:37:48.369 --> 00:37:50.989
get disjointed a whole lot is because everybody

00:37:50.989 --> 00:37:53.769
has a certain responsibility and it's not the

00:37:53.769 --> 00:37:57.329
same. And it's a part to play in the kingdom

00:37:57.329 --> 00:38:00.789
of God, but it's not the part. And sometimes

00:38:00.789 --> 00:38:03.829
I think we want to be the part. You know, I could

00:38:03.829 --> 00:38:06.760
bring it back down to the. Church is considered

00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:10.579
the body of Christ, and every portion of the

00:38:10.579 --> 00:38:13.159
body has a different responsibility. Let's go

00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:15.860
back to the Jewish people. When the children

00:38:15.860 --> 00:38:19.420
of Israel were chosen to move forward in God's

00:38:19.420 --> 00:38:23.260
kingdom, every family has a different portion

00:38:23.260 --> 00:38:26.159
of responsibility. And then all of a sudden,

00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:28.739
somehow, one portion decided they'd take over

00:38:28.739 --> 00:38:32.699
another portion. say, hey, your portion is not

00:38:32.699 --> 00:38:34.840
as good as our portion. That's something. And

00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:37.780
yet, in God's kingdom, everything has a greatness

00:38:37.780 --> 00:38:40.139
to it. There isn't one thing that's greater to

00:38:40.139 --> 00:38:43.460
another thing. It just has a different responsibility

00:38:43.460 --> 00:38:46.599
or meaning, but it's still great. And that's

00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:48.860
what I could see in this when I go around here

00:38:48.860 --> 00:38:51.840
in Jerusalem now and see the different connections.

00:38:52.059 --> 00:38:54.880
I think if I was to stay here longer, I would

00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:57.639
be able even to distinguish the different pieces

00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.780
because I would see the personality. I think

00:39:00.780 --> 00:39:04.239
when Shaw brought that out in that book when

00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:07.019
Mary Lois was talking to me, she's always talking

00:39:07.019 --> 00:39:09.340
about these different... I think that it became

00:39:09.340 --> 00:39:12.059
a deficit, but it was never meant to be a deficit.

00:39:12.260 --> 00:39:15.159
It was meant to be a plus. Because in heaven,

00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:18.199
you have the same thing going on. Everybody has

00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:20.460
these different colors. They have their different

00:39:20.460 --> 00:39:23.480
sounds in the sense of family, not individually,

00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:27.199
but as family. But everybody's also... working

00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:29.539
together, as we would say on the planet, working

00:39:29.539 --> 00:39:32.300
together. They're in unity. Oh, that's a huge

00:39:32.300 --> 00:39:36.179
word. That's a huge word. I wish we could understand

00:39:36.179 --> 00:39:38.860
unity. Doesn't mean we're all doing the same

00:39:38.860 --> 00:39:43.079
thing in the same way. We're doing what God wants

00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:45.619
us to do, but we're all connected in doing it.

00:39:46.090 --> 00:39:48.869
There's a difference. And I think what happens

00:39:48.869 --> 00:39:51.590
a lot of time is people think unity is follow

00:39:51.590 --> 00:39:54.269
me and my steps to do exactly what I'm doing

00:39:54.269 --> 00:39:57.349
or think like I'm thinking. And then when unified,

00:39:57.510 --> 00:39:59.969
no, you can still think like you're doing as

00:39:59.969 --> 00:40:02.369
long as it's God, because my thinking will come

00:40:02.369 --> 00:40:05.730
alongside yours. And now we're in unity. And

00:40:05.730 --> 00:40:08.409
so that's what I think I've seen in Jerusalem

00:40:08.409 --> 00:40:11.409
is that when we talk about the Israelites, the

00:40:11.409 --> 00:40:14.579
people here. is they don't have the unity because

00:40:14.579 --> 00:40:17.320
one group believes this way, one group believes

00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:19.440
that way, one group believes this. Me and you

00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.619
were talking about it, and it's of the Temple

00:40:22.619 --> 00:40:26.739
Mount, where the actual temple would be. If it

00:40:26.739 --> 00:40:29.900
was to come back, where would it be placed at?

00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:31.760
And one group believes it should be over here,

00:40:31.780 --> 00:40:33.260
and another group believes it should be over

00:40:33.260 --> 00:40:36.139
there. And then they get what we call very dogmatic

00:40:36.139 --> 00:40:38.820
or religious about it, to the point where I'm

00:40:38.820 --> 00:40:40.619
not going to talk to you because you think it's

00:40:40.619 --> 00:40:44.280
over here. And then we don't have unity. Yeah,

00:40:44.300 --> 00:40:46.579
there's division. And division. And then you

00:40:46.579 --> 00:40:48.219
got the enemy of God says, hey, I'm going to

00:40:48.219 --> 00:40:50.639
take advantage of that division. Right. You know,

00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:53.860
and then he brings his evil influence up here.

00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:56.760
And the next thing you know, now we're not fighting

00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:59.380
only ourselves because we don't agree on something.

00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:01.820
Now we got all these other demons and devils

00:41:01.820 --> 00:41:04.420
and evil spirits to fight. Sure. You know, and

00:41:04.420 --> 00:41:07.599
that's what I see here in this area. Very spiritual

00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:11.929
place for both sides. What do you mean by that?

00:41:12.610 --> 00:41:15.030
There's a good side and there's a bad side, but

00:41:15.030 --> 00:41:17.429
both is very spiritual. You know what I mean?

00:41:17.630 --> 00:41:21.309
Well, yeah, I think it's like zooming in and

00:41:21.309 --> 00:41:25.030
zooming in and zooming in and zooming in. And

00:41:25.030 --> 00:41:29.210
the biggest focus is who's going to be worshipped

00:41:29.210 --> 00:41:31.949
on the Temple Mount. Yes. You know, you've got

00:41:31.949 --> 00:41:34.469
the whole earth. Yes. The whole earth belongs

00:41:34.469 --> 00:41:38.010
to the Lord. But you've got this land. That God

00:41:38.010 --> 00:41:40.289
promised to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and their

00:41:40.289 --> 00:41:43.409
descendants. So you get this land, and then you

00:41:43.409 --> 00:41:46.530
focus down, and then you've got Jerusalem. It's

00:41:46.530 --> 00:41:49.230
the city of the great king. And then you've got

00:41:49.230 --> 00:41:55.750
the Temple Mount, where his presence dwelt. There's

00:41:55.750 --> 00:41:57.489
still a sense of the presence of the Lord there.

00:41:58.030 --> 00:42:02.250
And the idea of the battle that's going on. And

00:42:02.250 --> 00:42:04.909
you talked about... some of the darkness that

00:42:04.909 --> 00:42:07.710
you saw, some of the demonic activity, that they're

00:42:07.710 --> 00:42:09.869
not just fighting the good, they're also fighting

00:42:09.869 --> 00:42:11.409
among themselves. They're fighting each other.

00:42:11.409 --> 00:42:13.309
Tell us a little about that. That's a good thing,

00:42:13.329 --> 00:42:17.010
too. Yeah, it is. I remember us being on the

00:42:17.010 --> 00:42:19.650
Mount of Olivet, and it was during a time when

00:42:19.650 --> 00:42:22.090
they were praying. Oh, yes. And we could look

00:42:22.090 --> 00:42:24.690
down literally into the Temple Mount. Yeah. And

00:42:24.690 --> 00:42:27.170
I could see in that spiritual realm, and it was

00:42:27.170 --> 00:42:29.070
like the demons are fighting each other more

00:42:29.070 --> 00:42:31.010
than they were fighting the light. You know,

00:42:31.010 --> 00:42:33.750
I mean, trying to see who was going to be in

00:42:33.750 --> 00:42:36.789
control. But, you know, that's evil. Evil always

00:42:36.789 --> 00:42:40.030
fights against itself. Right. And you may say,

00:42:40.050 --> 00:42:42.110
well, good fights against itself. No, good doesn't

00:42:42.110 --> 00:42:45.190
fight against itself. This is true. And I'm telling

00:42:45.190 --> 00:42:47.989
you right now, good does not do that. Well, this

00:42:47.989 --> 00:42:50.030
group is fighting against, then they must not

00:42:50.030 --> 00:42:53.789
be on the good side. That's a whole different

00:42:53.789 --> 00:42:56.090
story because good does not fight against itself.

00:42:56.309 --> 00:42:59.280
You know, well, the church fights against. I

00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.599
was there. Jesus said the gates of hell will

00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:04.219
not prevail against his church. I don't know

00:43:04.219 --> 00:43:06.500
what church you're talking about, but the church

00:43:06.500 --> 00:43:09.260
of Jesus is not fighting. Now you may have a

00:43:09.260 --> 00:43:11.719
personality problem or you may go through some

00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:14.239
issues with somebody, but that doesn't mean Jesus

00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:17.760
is with you fighting against that person. Sometimes

00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:20.699
you say our pride gets in the way. Let's put

00:43:20.699 --> 00:43:24.019
it that way. But in that sense of going back

00:43:24.019 --> 00:43:26.500
and looking at all the demonic that I've seen

00:43:26.500 --> 00:43:29.900
in this area is that literally they're fighting

00:43:29.900 --> 00:43:33.420
against themselves. And they're trying to jockey

00:43:33.420 --> 00:43:35.820
to see who's going to be in control. There's

00:43:35.820 --> 00:43:38.000
some movies that I've watched, and I remember

00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.800
seeing how the demonic realm would fight against

00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:43.340
itself. You know, they'd kill each other off

00:43:43.340 --> 00:43:45.639
in a moment. You know what I mean? People think,

00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:47.659
well, you know, don't you guys do the same? No.

00:43:47.780 --> 00:43:51.539
Again, good doesn't do that. Okay, that's evil.

00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.900
Evil will do that, but good doesn't do that.

00:43:55.300 --> 00:43:58.219
And so here we got these demonic things fighting

00:43:58.219 --> 00:44:01.460
with each other, killing each other off all the

00:44:01.460 --> 00:44:04.739
time in the sense of trying to get power so that

00:44:04.739 --> 00:44:06.840
they'd be in more charge. They'd be in charge

00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:10.139
of something more than anything else. They're

00:44:10.139 --> 00:44:12.019
all after one thing, and that's the worship.

00:44:12.619 --> 00:44:16.539
to be recognized by us to redeem so that they

00:44:16.539 --> 00:44:19.699
get some kudos for themselves let's put it that

00:44:19.699 --> 00:44:23.699
way you know yeah sometimes we'll do that i'll

00:44:23.699 --> 00:44:26.039
tell you the truth sometimes we'll recognize

00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:29.489
them and Give them a bigger honor, you know,

00:44:29.510 --> 00:44:32.130
in the sense of how we describe them than they

00:44:32.130 --> 00:44:34.809
should ever be honored. And I like that scripture

00:44:34.809 --> 00:44:37.670
said that it was against the law. Now I understand

00:44:37.670 --> 00:44:41.530
to even say the names of demons, you know, and

00:44:41.530 --> 00:44:43.789
most people don't realize it was against the

00:44:43.789 --> 00:44:46.909
law. Because once we say things, we don't realize

00:44:46.909 --> 00:44:49.269
it was given to us. Life and death is in the

00:44:49.269 --> 00:44:52.050
power of tongue. We start edifying them. And

00:44:52.050 --> 00:44:54.929
once we start edifying them, then we give them

00:44:54.929 --> 00:44:57.329
more power to go ahead and do some things that

00:44:57.329 --> 00:45:00.110
they shouldn't be able to do to us because we've

00:45:00.110 --> 00:45:02.769
edified them. But Sharon, when I go back and

00:45:02.769 --> 00:45:04.869
I think about that and looking down and seeing

00:45:04.869 --> 00:45:07.570
all that take place, the other thing that I came

00:45:07.570 --> 00:45:09.550
to understand is we got the restrainers that

00:45:09.550 --> 00:45:12.869
are here. People that are praying and they're

00:45:12.869 --> 00:45:16.329
restraining the evil. So it's not going out.

00:45:16.369 --> 00:45:19.170
We got bad things happening in the planet. Don't

00:45:19.170 --> 00:45:22.070
get me wrong. But the reality of it is God has

00:45:22.070 --> 00:45:25.869
placed people here to restrain in that spiritual

00:45:25.869 --> 00:45:29.409
realm things that would be a lot worse off. And

00:45:29.409 --> 00:45:33.090
so I think I want to go back because I didn't

00:45:33.090 --> 00:45:35.440
bring this out earlier. When the children of

00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.460
Israel were moving, and I believe they probably

00:45:38.460 --> 00:45:41.519
knew this because they had the cloud, you know,

00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:45.960
by day and the pillar by night. They always knew

00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:48.059
that the presence of God was going to go with

00:45:48.059 --> 00:45:51.320
them as they went forward. And many times it

00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:53.280
was the heavenly host that was going with them

00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:56.280
in the sense of angels. And we look at it as

00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:58.780
they were traveling. But God always had that

00:45:58.780 --> 00:46:02.539
heavenly host going with them. Okay. And so.

00:46:03.289 --> 00:46:07.389
that heavenly host has not been reassigned. Oh,

00:46:07.389 --> 00:46:09.730
that's good. You understand what I mean? That's

00:46:09.730 --> 00:46:12.469
good. And so it's probably not as active as it

00:46:12.469 --> 00:46:16.010
would like to be, but it's still around. You

00:46:16.010 --> 00:46:18.769
understand what I'm talking about? And so in

00:46:18.769 --> 00:46:21.070
saying that to you, you've got that heavenly

00:46:21.070 --> 00:46:24.590
host that's still around. We always talk about

00:46:24.590 --> 00:46:27.070
the miracles of this nation, just how it came

00:46:27.070 --> 00:46:30.010
into existence and how they won this and how

00:46:30.010 --> 00:46:31.769
they did this. You've got to remember, they still

00:46:31.769 --> 00:46:35.030
had the heavenly host. It's like when David was

00:46:35.030 --> 00:46:38.469
anointed as king of all of Israel. And he said,

00:46:38.530 --> 00:46:40.869
well, should I go forward and fight the Philistines?

00:46:40.969 --> 00:46:43.610
And the Lord said, when you hear the army of

00:46:43.610 --> 00:46:46.409
the Lord in the treetops go forward, well, that's

00:46:46.409 --> 00:46:49.050
that heavenly host. There's still a sign to this

00:46:49.050 --> 00:46:51.650
nation. Yes, yes. And that wasn't far from here.

00:46:51.769 --> 00:46:54.650
Yeah. That was really just some blocks from here.

00:46:54.829 --> 00:46:59.889
Oh, that's pretty cool. Yeah. So in saying that

00:46:59.889 --> 00:47:03.460
to you, it's still here. Still here. I've been

00:47:03.460 --> 00:47:06.159
a lot of places and a lot of places throughout

00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:09.239
the world and also in the United States. And

00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:12.659
I will say the most spiritual activity I've ever

00:47:12.659 --> 00:47:15.980
seen is being in this place on both sides. There

00:47:15.980 --> 00:47:22.739
is a lot going on here and a lot. Yes. Wow. Do

00:47:22.739 --> 00:47:25.659
you have any other impressions that you want

00:47:25.659 --> 00:47:28.260
to share? You know, I'm looking forward to our

00:47:28.260 --> 00:47:31.760
future times together where I really am excited

00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:34.860
about going through the word of God and looking

00:47:34.860 --> 00:47:37.539
at it because God is a detailed God. I haven't

00:47:37.539 --> 00:47:40.179
had the release to talk about the things that

00:47:40.179 --> 00:47:44.239
I'm talking about now. And now God is revealing

00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:47.190
these things to me. from the earthly point of

00:47:47.190 --> 00:47:49.150
view. I had them from the heavenly point of view,

00:47:49.190 --> 00:47:51.590
but from the earth. So I'm looking forward to

00:47:51.590 --> 00:47:55.349
working with global outpouring in the next few

00:47:55.349 --> 00:47:58.150
months. And we're really teasing out the things

00:47:58.150 --> 00:48:01.750
in the next few months and watching how God brings

00:48:01.750 --> 00:48:05.590
these things to life. And I love it that you

00:48:05.590 --> 00:48:07.610
and Phil have this background. You've been coming,

00:48:07.670 --> 00:48:10.849
how long have you been coming? Since 1978. Yeah,

00:48:10.909 --> 00:48:13.869
and since you guys, it helps out when you bring

00:48:13.869 --> 00:48:16.710
in those little things on the side. I think in

00:48:16.710 --> 00:48:19.210
traveling and since I've been here in Jerusalem,

00:48:19.349 --> 00:48:23.530
and I loved it when Gene Little would bring up

00:48:23.530 --> 00:48:26.869
things, or Mayor Lewis would bring up. things

00:48:26.869 --> 00:48:29.130
that filled with break because it opened up even

00:48:29.130 --> 00:48:32.329
more for me to be able to see you know and to

00:48:32.329 --> 00:48:36.329
connect and there was so many wow moments i didn't

00:48:36.329 --> 00:48:38.449
always say it out loud but in my head there was

00:48:38.449 --> 00:48:44.409
like wow wow because now i was connecting that

00:48:44.409 --> 00:48:47.010
heavenly realm to this earthly realm and how

00:48:47.010 --> 00:48:50.590
god poured it into the israelites you know the

00:48:50.590 --> 00:48:53.550
jewish people to be able to spread upon the earth

00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:57.460
And it was like, wow, that's why you did that.

00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.320
Wow, that's why you said that. Wow, that's why

00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:02.960
you had them create that. There were so many

00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:05.300
of those. And I didn't know it was going to be

00:49:05.300 --> 00:49:09.659
that vast. I knew there were some things I wanted

00:49:09.659 --> 00:49:13.039
to connect, but I didn't know. It was going to

00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:16.099
be that fast. So I'm excited to look forward

00:49:16.099 --> 00:49:18.860
for the next few months and go through the word

00:49:18.860 --> 00:49:21.360
of God and bring out things. And I'll probably

00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:24.179
be calling you up and sharing. I found this out.

00:49:24.420 --> 00:49:28.159
Listen to this. You know, I feel you've got to

00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:29.719
hear this. You've got to hear this. And then

00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:32.340
we would develop it and be able to bring it out

00:49:32.340 --> 00:49:35.420
in this form. Because I believe it's going to

00:49:35.420 --> 00:49:38.619
bring life. You know, it's not to promote me

00:49:38.619 --> 00:49:42.409
or anything. It's to really bring life to people.

00:49:42.630 --> 00:49:45.570
Yes. So that when they read their word, you know,

00:49:45.590 --> 00:49:49.110
their Bible, it'll be more. I like what a friend

00:49:49.110 --> 00:49:52.429
of mine, Nancy Teal, said that when she came,

00:49:52.570 --> 00:49:55.789
being here really helped her the first time that

00:49:55.789 --> 00:49:58.730
she was here, put more life to the Bible. Yes.

00:49:58.730 --> 00:50:01.670
And I can see that. I would recommend anybody,

00:50:01.849 --> 00:50:04.610
if you get an opportunity to come to Jerusalem,

00:50:04.929 --> 00:50:08.769
take it because it will do that for you. But

00:50:08.769 --> 00:50:11.239
we'll be able to go farther. We will be able,

00:50:11.340 --> 00:50:13.639
me and you and Phil, we'll be able to not only,

00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:16.300
if someone comes here and says, okay, now you've

00:50:16.300 --> 00:50:18.679
seen the Ark of the Covenant. Now when they look

00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:21.480
at it, they think, well, in heaven, those just

00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:24.500
cherubims are alive. Yes. Do you understand?

00:50:24.659 --> 00:50:27.039
Yes. All of a sudden, the Ark of the Covenant

00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:29.500
isn't just a box with poles somebody carried.

00:50:29.619 --> 00:50:32.460
Right, right. And all of a sudden, it's alive.

00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:34.840
Yes. Does that make sense to you? Absolutely.

00:50:35.380 --> 00:50:38.849
Absolutely. And I have seen. in the spirit, in

00:50:38.849 --> 00:50:42.150
the description of how to make the Ark of the

00:50:42.150 --> 00:50:44.170
Covenant. And I mentioned earlier that it's a

00:50:44.170 --> 00:50:48.050
gold box inside of a wooden box, inside of a

00:50:48.050 --> 00:50:51.269
gold box. And the kind of wood that it's made

00:50:51.269 --> 00:50:54.510
out of is shittim wood. And it's like acacia

00:50:54.510 --> 00:50:59.010
and it's thorny and it's gnarly. It grows really

00:50:59.010 --> 00:51:01.469
slowly in the desert. You know, it's just, it's

00:51:01.469 --> 00:51:04.809
a hard wood. And to me, that's a picture of our

00:51:04.809 --> 00:51:08.989
fleshly nature. And gold is a picture of deity.

00:51:09.289 --> 00:51:13.170
So when you get Jesus on the inside of you, and

00:51:13.170 --> 00:51:17.630
you find yourself in Christ, and then that gold

00:51:17.630 --> 00:51:20.750
crown that goes around the top of it, it covers

00:51:20.750 --> 00:51:24.710
up the fleshly life. It covers up that fleshly

00:51:24.710 --> 00:51:29.630
behavior. It takes us into Galatians 5. I love

00:51:29.630 --> 00:51:35.050
how you call it G5. That whole list of the fleshly

00:51:35.050 --> 00:51:38.579
nature. These are the works of the flesh. All

00:51:38.579 --> 00:51:41.179
that gnarly stuff, all that pokey stuff, all

00:51:41.179 --> 00:51:45.219
that stuff that you've described to us doesn't

00:51:45.219 --> 00:51:49.780
go to heaven. And you get it tempered with the

00:51:49.780 --> 00:51:52.500
presence of the Holy Spirit, where the Holy Spirit

00:51:52.500 --> 00:51:55.900
is bringing forth His fruit of love and joy and

00:51:55.900 --> 00:51:59.619
peace and patience and faith and kindness and

00:51:59.619 --> 00:52:02.079
gentleness and all these things that are the

00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:05.079
fruit of the Spirit, that are the nature. of

00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:08.400
the Lord Jesus in our lives. It's the deity,

00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:12.760
the gold covers up that fleshly nature and gets

00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:16.320
empowered by the presence of God. Yeah. Well,

00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:18.119
it's going to be good to tease all that out.

00:52:18.179 --> 00:52:21.900
Yeah. In the next few months and me and you and

00:52:21.900 --> 00:52:24.440
Phil be able to go through it. And I'm still

00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:28.119
excited. I could say more. I won't say that.

00:52:29.019 --> 00:52:31.420
It's just that I really want to be more detailed.

00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:36.130
Yes. I just want to be more detailed. The showbread.

00:52:36.170 --> 00:52:38.929
Why was it showbread? Oh, yeah. You know, why

00:52:38.929 --> 00:52:41.929
was it even created in the way it was created?

00:52:42.030 --> 00:52:45.789
Why do we have the procedure that they have?

00:52:45.949 --> 00:52:48.329
You know, I know we have an earthly definition.

00:52:48.630 --> 00:52:50.710
Right. But those are the things I experienced

00:52:50.710 --> 00:52:53.210
in heaven. Good. And they're in the word. Okay.

00:52:53.309 --> 00:52:55.789
I just want to go through it and help people

00:52:55.789 --> 00:52:58.570
because I really believe in doing that. They'll

00:52:58.570 --> 00:53:01.519
even see more. Yes. They'll see more. And the

00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:05.699
whole purpose of it is that we be changed by

00:53:05.699 --> 00:53:08.119
the presence of God, that the eyes of our understanding

00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:10.719
are being enlightened, like Ephesians talks about,

00:53:10.860 --> 00:53:13.579
that it's not just about getting head knowledge.

00:53:13.780 --> 00:53:17.539
This is about getting transformed from glory

00:53:17.539 --> 00:53:20.059
to glory, from faith to faith, that all of these

00:53:20.059 --> 00:53:23.780
things that we're doing are equipping us for

00:53:23.780 --> 00:53:27.539
operating with our Father in the purpose that

00:53:27.539 --> 00:53:31.409
He made us for. So would you pray for our listeners?

00:53:32.710 --> 00:53:34.949
Father, thank you for each and every person that's

00:53:34.949 --> 00:53:37.130
listening right now. Thank you that you love

00:53:37.130 --> 00:53:39.969
them so much. Thank you that you have your hand

00:53:39.969 --> 00:53:43.329
on them even right now. And some of the people,

00:53:43.389 --> 00:53:46.230
Father, I know they got excited by just hearing

00:53:46.230 --> 00:53:48.309
this. And then some people are kind of like,

00:53:48.329 --> 00:53:51.280
I got to question some things. I'm asking you

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right now to calm that so that they can be able

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to hear you and what will be brought out, not

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only what was brought out in this moment, but

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also what will be brought out in the future.

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I thank you, Lord, that you love them so much.

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That you want them to know this more than they

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even are desiring to know it. And some of them

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are desiring like everything they have. I also,

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Lord, ask you to open up the door for those that

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want to come to Jerusalem. Make a way for them.

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to be able to come financially, because that's

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usually the biggest hindrance for people not

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coming, Lord. And then also, Lord, just to have

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it where when they come, that they even experience

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more of what we're talking about, Lord. Make

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this a place that people come, and as my good

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friend Mary Lloyd said, before rivers come out

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of them, as they go back and they touch other

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parts of their nation, Lord. You know, that's

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what the Israelites were... given this responsibility

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you know they were given this responsibility

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to touch nations so father in the name of jesus

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i just pray that the doors open for people to

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come but they also go back and touch their nation

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and lord i just thank you right now that you're

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healing some people physically yes this is a

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outward example of you doing something inward

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within their lives right now I thank you. And

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Lord, somebody's listening to this and don't

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even really know what we're talking about. I

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ask you to keep on drawing them. In your word,

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it says, seek, knock, and ask, and you will find.

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So Father, I'm asking in the name of Jesus, they're

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seeking you. So help them to find you. Send somebody

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to them as you did Ananias to Paul, you know.

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Yes. And you helped him to find his way. Send

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someone to them right now in the name of Jesus.

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Comfort them in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Please

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