The SHOCKING Truth about Hunting for Portals | Tony Merkel

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That set me off. I was like, what the heck? I got to go visit this property.

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We went out there and we visited the property hunting for portals.

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Not a good idea.

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Tell me about some of the things that have affected you,

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because I know as you talk about this, in a way,

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you're opening yourself up to spiritual warfare.

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Not in a way you are opening up your yourself to spiritual warfare.

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Not that you're necessarily opening the door like somebody would be playing

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with a Ouija board or other occult type things.

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But because you're exposing it, you're under attack yourself.

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Can we talk about that for a little bit?

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Yeah. So doing this stuff definitely gets a target on your back.

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And I use the example at times where, you know, I'm a big basketball fan.

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I know you guys are in Orlando, the Orlando Magic.

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I look at it as a game almost,

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where if you say you're a Christian and you're just riding the bench,

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nobody's going to guard you.

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And even worse, if you say you're a Christian, you get put in a game

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and you're just standing at half court and the game's going on,

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you're not participating, nobody's going to guard you.

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As soon as you start becoming a problem,

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that's when the opponent pays attention to you.

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And that is something that I've experienced

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throughout the years doing this.

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It's something that, you know,

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I don't really I don't really have a great understanding

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as to how it all works.

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But I know that in the spiritual realm

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where these wars are happening and between God's angels

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and these demonic principalities,

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somebody like me doing what I'm doing,

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it's like I'm almost like a glowing green, you know?

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It's just like I stand out in a dark room.

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And I feel like at times I do things and it's like all eyes get put on me.

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And it's something that I've had people over the years tell me,

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you got to be careful.

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And I agree, you got to be careful.

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But when God calls you to do something,

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I firmly believe he's going to protect you.

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And guide you through it.

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And it's not to say I've done it perfectly.

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I've done things that I've regretted over the years.

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I've done things that I've misstepped on.

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And I'm like, oh, that was a really bad decision.

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And I walked in ignorance, thinking God will protect me.

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And it's not always the most pleasurable experience

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going through the stuff.

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You can get carried away with some of the stuff.

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Like when I first started really understanding this idea of portals,

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I was fascinated by it because I just...

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It wasn't until probably about two years ago, three years ago,

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that it really started becoming a thing on the show where people...

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I had a frame reference to understand that this is actually something legit.

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And I got really interested in it.

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And I remember there's a woman, her name is Dr. Laura Sanger,

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and I had her on the show.

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And the first time I had her on the show,

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it was right around the time that I started learning about this stuff,

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then how portals and the astral realm and all this stuff.

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And I forget what her and I were talking about,

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but last month I was at a conference in Utah.

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And right before I left, I sat down with her husband and her for dinner.

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And we were fellowshiping and talking.

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And she told me, the first time we talked,

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she said she walked away from the interview

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thinking I had an unhealthy interest in the topic of portals.

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And I confirmed to her, you're absolutely right, I did.

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I absolutely did.

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I was infatuated with it.

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And I put myself in positions with that infatuation,

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where I feel like I overstepped the line on certain things.

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And I regretted it on a spiritual level where I feel like I...

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Disrespected the Lord, but also I felt like God gave me a lot to be trusted with.

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And I felt like I abused that at certain points.

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And for instance, there's a guy that came to my studio,

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and he's in Kentucky, and he has some really wild stuff happening.

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And he talks about this magic, and he's like,

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this magical cave, I don't know how else to call it, but it's huge.

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30 foot ceilings, it goes back for miles.

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He's been exploring it his entire life.

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He hasn't explored the whole thing yet.

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And in the same conversation, he shares with me

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that he saw a portal in the woods around the cave.

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And he was able to take a picture of it.

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And he showed me the picture.

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And it was like, I've seen a lot of pictures,

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and people say, oh, it's Bigfoot in the trees.

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I'm like, that's a shadow, or it's a tree.

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This was a glowing sphere in the woods.

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And when you zoom in and look at it,

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you can see how it's actually going behind one of the other trees in the foreground.

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It was definitely something that was actually there.

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And he said he took his camera.

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He's not tech savvy.

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He has an actual camera, digital camera.

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And he takes his camera, he takes a picture of it,

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looks down, and then looks back up, and it's gone.

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It happened that fast.

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So he actually got the picture of it.

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That set me off.

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That set me off.

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I was like, what the heck?

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Like, I gotta go visit this property.

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And we went out there, and we visited the property.

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And hunting for portals, not a good idea.

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It's just a door.

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I don't want to say just.

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It's a doorway.

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It's a doorway to another realm.

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And things go in and out of that.

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And you're hunting down, trying to hunt down the doorway

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where things are coming in and out of.

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Not a good idea.

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I don't even like talking about it anymore.

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It's something I regretted.

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I felt convicted of it.

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And the people I was with have since also felt like

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we overstepped that line.

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And traditionally, I try to be a person that I know

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where my boundary is, and I stay 20 feet away

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from the boundary.

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I don't want to walk the fence.

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I don't want to walk that line of, oh, I can explain

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it this way, and it's still okay.

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I just want to stay away from it.

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Like, I know where God's called me to do.

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We do go out into these areas and, you know, like things

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like we had an area, another area in Kentucky

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where somebody had experience with an upright walking

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canine creature in the woods one night.

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Terrifying story.

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An upright walking canine creature.

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That sounds like what we would say is a werewolf.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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I didn't know if I should say werewolf.

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So, I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I didn't know if I should say werewolf.

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So, the newer culture, people are calling it dog man.

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I've heard that too.

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I think what we're dealing with is something

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that has different origins.

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So, when you talk about werewolf, I think it's more ritual.

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I think that people, there are rituals that people will wear.

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I don't know if it's exactly the, you know,

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the generic term Satanist, but there will be people

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who go through these magical practices

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where they'll wear the skin of a wolf

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and they'll do rituals trying to transform themselves

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into a wolf, skinwalker type stuff.

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And on that premise, me and the guys wonder

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if what people are doing and seeing,

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are they actually transforming their bodies

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or are they doing dark black magic

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that when other people come across them

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in the middle of that ritual, they are seeing

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what is being projected out to them.

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So, there's that aspect.

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There's also the more ancient thing

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where people think that these are creatures

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roaming the woods.

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There's also the aspect of people believing

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that these things are created by governments.

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We have several different stories

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that fit all those categories with this specific idea.

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But anyways, we went out there into Kentucky

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and we put ourselves in the environment.

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And this is where we feel like is our wheelhouse.

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So, we believe that God has called us

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in our own rights to show the world

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that the supernatural realm is real and it exists.

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I do that through my podcast in these conversations.

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And my guys that I go out with, we're all Christians

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coming from different denominations.

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I'm the most charismatic of the group.

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But we all have the same motives.

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And what we believe is if this stuff

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is happening to people in these areas,

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we don't need to go asking for it.

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We don't need to conjure things.

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We don't need to pull out Ouija boards and stuff like that.

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We just go out into the woods

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and exist in these environments

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to see what happens around us.

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Sometimes weird things happen around us.

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And we go out there, we pray before, during, and after.

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But yeah, so when it comes to the spiritual warfare,

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I think that it's gonna happen,

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but you have to be on guard

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and know the boundaries and limitations.

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And there's been a couple of times

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where I've had to learn the lesson the hard way for sure.