EXPOSING the Israel Dilemma: Ancient Prophecies Come to Life!

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Bible prophecy is real and we can trust God at his word with me today is Tim Mahoney the filmmaker of

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Patterns of evidence and this time he's looking at the evidence for prophecy and

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Specifically about the Israel dilemma. What has God said about Israel and how is it unfolded today Tim?

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It's great to have you here

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Well, thank you John for for having me on. Yes. Tonight is the night

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we're showing this movie the Israel dilemma ancient prophecies and

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This film came about

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Because of what happened in the last year with it is I

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wasn't planning on making this film, but I I

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When I saw what happened and I saw how the world was reacting to it. That's when I became

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You know felt very certain that we needed to you know, talk about well, where do this? Who are these people?

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These people live in Israel. What's the history because the Bible has an awful lot to say about the nation of Israel

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Yeah, the Bible talks so much about the nation of Israel specifically and one of my favorite prophecies to look at and we can see

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Real-life proof was that God would regather his his people back to the land and we saw that fulfillment in

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1948 and the people speak Hebrew it is in that same land and they are called Israel and it is it is a

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fulfillment of

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You know prophecy that was a couple thousand years old that not so many people wrote off because they said this is never going to happen

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But I love Tim that you have had

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Basically, you've kind of made your part of your documentary career about this patterns of evidence and you're looking for where is the proof?

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This is what the Bible says. Where is the proof? Let's look at this. Let's find that pattern

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Talk about how you've come to some of these patterns that you've seen with prophecy

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Yes, and for the audience doesn't know

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Patterns of evidence is a scientific approach to investigate the Bible and so the science basically says well what you know, it looks for patterns

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based on

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information and

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The information that we have is the Bible is telling us that certain events happened. They happened in certain

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Ways and so for example

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In this particular film the Bible says that God made a covenant with the nation of Israel and it was because of Abraham

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God made a covenant with Abraham and said that your descendants would would

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Walk this land and in the future. I'm going to promise this land to your descendants

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and that's basically the story of the Bible is is this relationship between God and people and

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at the so if anyone understands what the story of the Bible there's

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Abraham has all these descendants they they end up going down to Egypt and they grow into a multitude and

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They become the the nation of Israel

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they they are they leave and they go to Mount Sinai and they

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Basically make a covenant with God. They make an agreement with God that they will be his people

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And that he will be their God and what ends up happening is that Moses?

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Who writes the first five books of the Bible through inspiration of God?

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He says listen there are blessings if you obey God and there's curses if you disobey

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And so I started to hone in on that our team honed in on that this covenant that was made with the nation

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And what Moses says is that you're going to first have a kingdom

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So he you know, he says there's going to be a kingdom that you're going to have but if you disobey God

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And by the way, you will disobey God that kingdom is going to be destroyed

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and

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Because of your sin and then secondly he says or third he says you're going to be scattered amongst the nations you're going to be persecuted

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But then God is going to show his mercy and you're going to be returned to the land

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And that's what we look for. We look for those five steps in this pattern

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We look for those five different steps and we find amazing evidence of prophecy being fulfilled

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Yeah, and I love how you use

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dramatizations of some of these prophetic utterances

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That we're looking at to and then just how you kind of reveal that so let's let's take a look at some of these clips

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That you have and this one is about young king. Jehoiachin

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And he carried away Jehoiachin to Babylon

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The king's mother the king's wives his officials and the chief men of the land

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He took into captivity from Jerusalem to Babylon

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King Jehoiachin was a young prince who ruled as king of juda for only one year between

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598 and 597

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Well, what's fascinating about this is that Jehoiachin is the bible tells us who he was

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And that for one year he served and because all these kings in israel, you're going to see all the ones that did not obey god

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Finally he's taken away to Babylon and he's captured there

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But once again god's faithfulness, but so what's unique about this is that?

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This film is going to show you evidence from the kingdom of david all the way through to

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the destruction of the israel and

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Of juda the nations. I mean the the different parts of the nation when it divided we're going to show you from

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other

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countries other nations their archaeology and their documents are pointing back

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mirroring the bible

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And why this is important is that we're going to show and establish that god is telling us certain things

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We have prophets coming back to life in this film. We have isaiah. We have

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Hesachai we have isaiah and jeremiah and ezekiel that are talking to the people

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God used prophets to warn them and to say turn back to god

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And so these prophets are are are prophesying and we can see in the documentation

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That these events happen

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Earlier in time than when some people thought they happened and what that means is that they're prophecies god is warning in advance

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And then we have the prophets coming back to life in this film

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advance and then we're going to see the archaeology is testifying to god fulfilling his warning

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And that the nation then is going to be

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Destroyed and we're going to see from the archaeology of assyria and from babalon how this happened

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And and how awful it was because they were persecuted very severely

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Uh, and then eventually the film winds up with it the return to the land now. Why is this important today?

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In the sense that do we have a historical understanding about what god is doing?

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And it does seem as if the israel the nation of israel god has somehow

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Chosen this nation

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of all nations to reveal who he is to to the world

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And so that's why I think it's important for us as we're dealing with a lot of activities that are happening there now

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That we understand how this all came into being

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Yeah, and with the making of this film actually the the whole patterns of evidence series

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You actually had the opportunity to go to israel years ago and interview

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Uh the prime minister and the the president and so you have some exclusive interviews in this film with

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benjamin netanyahu and

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shimon pares

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And so what are some of the insights that they were able to give back then?

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That uh, you're seeing maybe unfold in a different way now

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That those interviews were profound in a way because uh, you know, I wasn't nobody

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I I just asked I felt like I should go to the nation and ask to talk about the bible

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And when people have asked me what's this film about is this a film about?

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uh politics or whatever no this film was about the bible and about

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Prophecy and about god unfolding events

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So when I went to talk with benjamin netanyahu, I you know, I I asked him many questions that were biblical

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in nature

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About about the nation of israel and how it came into being and the same thing was true with shimon pares

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now these

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What you I think the profound thing that I learned is sitting in the room with them and

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And talking with them you start to understand they're different

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They're not they're they're different people

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They're different people than the normal person. There's a reason why their stature is such they have a presence about them

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When you're around the leader that basically says this guy is the leader or he has those

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There's an aura about a leader and that was one of the things that I sensed now shimon pares talked about

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uh how

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uh in 1948

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That ben garian held up a bible

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He was the first president of israel when they became when they came back out after 2 000 years and then one day

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Became a nation

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Uh, he you know, he says we are about the bible

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and so this is

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Uh, the you know, we are seeing history and we're seeing I think prophecy

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Uh unfolding and I think it's easy to get wore out by that sometimes people people kind of go

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Oh, i've heard this over and over again and they said it's over here or it's going to happen here or whatever

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But I think that we need to pay attention

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And I and the best place to start

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Is at the beginning

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So we start this film in genesis and we work our way through this through genesis and we we understand about god's creation

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the fall of man

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Then we we learn about noah and what happens then in the flood and then we go to the tower of babel

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And then that leads us eventually to abraham where god then chooses a man that he's going to have a relationship

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With and he's going to bless him

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So I think for a lot of us it's important for us to have a biblical

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Understanding of how we got to where we are today because things are I think still percolating

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And I don't think the issues with israel are going to be going away

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Yeah, there's there's a especially since uh the the attacks in on october 7th of 2023

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There's been a heightened sense of focus

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uh, especially prophetically on the land of israel because we can look at the end of the bible and see oh we're we're heading there faster than

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We originally thought or that we thought before september or october 7th

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Well, let's take a look at another clip that you have about we looked at young jehoiachin now. Let's take a look at old jehoiachin

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In the 37th year of the exile of jehoiakim king of juda evil marodak king of babalon

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Graciously freed jehoiakim king of juda from prison a regular allowance was given him by the king

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According to his daily needs as long as he lived

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A remarkable discovery connected to this came in the form of an artifact known as the jehoiachin ration tablet

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And it's actually referring to king jehoiachin of juda and his sons who receive

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On a monthly basis. They've received food rations including

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Seesam oil and exactly the the the rations are mentioned and this we find in babalonian cuneiform tablets

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This matches perfectly what is stated in the bible

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Ten silla of oil to jehoiachin king of juda and two and a half silla of oil to the sons of the king of juda

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Wow, um, I I follow a biblical archaeology finds uh, pretty good

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I that one's new to me and that's really interesting because it even gives the specific measurements that the bible lays out

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So what happens if we read the bible and then archaeology doesn't back up what the bible says?

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We haven't had that happen yet, but like there would be some discrepancies there

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But we always see is verification that what the bible says is true

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Yeah, well what what we're seeing is a pattern of evidence, you know

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I mean there's more evidence I think for the bible than there are for so many other events that people take at hand

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But what ends up happening is that there's a rebellion going on

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there's a rebellion against the god of heaven and earth and

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so people are looking for excuses not to believe in god and

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Anyway, the whole point of this film here

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I think is to see that there are ancient prophecies that relate to the nation of israel that

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Were talking about this relationship that god had with his people

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So there's a lot to be learned in this film and it's very inspiring as well

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Just as you saw that, you know the very like you didn't know this but the very uh grocery list

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Yeah, way i can is found in these records and it's matching the bible just like that

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Now the other thing is king hezekiah, you know

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If you've got people that are you know, all of us are under stress and duress and with finances and with life and with health

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Family it might be

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This film can be a great encouragement the israel dilemma because we're going to tell the story about king hezekiah

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and king hezekiah

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Has this

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This king king of sinekara that's coming down and he has basically

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Wiped out every kingdom and he's mocking god

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He's mocking god and uh, and he's basically saying don't depend upon your god

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I said listen, i've burned all the other gods and if you try to depend upon your god

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I'm going to i'm going to deal with you very severely

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And uh, you're going to we're telling the story of how isaiah, you know comes and you know king hezekiah is crying out to the lord

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We filmed these scenes

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We're bringing back king hezekiah to life isaiah

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Ezekiel

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Jeremiah you're going to be seeing these characters and I don't think anyone has ever been

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Has ever told the story from genesis all the way through to this time period

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This is the first time it's ever been done in my understanding

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And we're going to show you the evidence of god fulfilling his word

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But this is inspirational because king hezekiah calls out on the lord

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God provides and you're going to see the evidence of how god provided and spared

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Jerusalem and so, you know if you've got you know concerns or burdens I grew up in a family a broken home

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I grew up with a mom who cried out to the lord

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You know, I think about it

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And we we we were on welfare

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So I know what it's like to cry out to the lord when you don't have enough

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Enough to get by and so that's why this film I think is connected to the lord

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So that's why this film I think is can be an encouragement as well. It's not just about archaeology

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It's about being encouraged that god is faithful to his word

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Amen. Well, you just mentioned a clip about hezekiah and isaiah and so let's let's play that we got a little bit of time here. Okay?

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The bible records that then hezekiah humbled himself and threw himself on the mercy of god

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Isaiah the prophet brought the king a swift response from the lord saying that the king of assyria would not set foot in Jerusalem

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All right, so you have the the dramatic

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you know representation of those and uh, so

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The king of assyria would not step foot in israel. What proof do we have about that? Tim?

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Well, we're going to show you what uh, what snetcrip says

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He he's he's you know political spin

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We have it today, but we've had it for thousands of years

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And he's going to put a spin on it because he's going to say I locked king katharine

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Uh, that's what his records are going to record. Well, the bible tells us that 185,000 of his troops were killed overnight

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And he had to go back

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To you know to his kingdom and so once again

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There's times when we can call out to to the lord and he can be our deliverer

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And and we're going to see that what the bible says is that he's going to be our deliverer

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He can be our deliverer and and we're going to see that what the bible says

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You're going to see what happens to these other kings. But once again, it's it's going back on

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It's turning back to the lord is what made this work

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And that's the message I think that this film is about is return to the lord if you don't

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There's hard times. There's judgment. There's difficulties if you try to do it your own way

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Yeah, there's such a strong lesson to be learned about that

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Uh, so tim how can people find this film? Where can they go to see it and what dates are available?

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They can go to patterns of evidence.com patterns of evidence.com

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And uh, they will see uh the film there they can watch the trailer and they can also uh, then hit tickets

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And that'll take them to a ticketing site and then put in their zip code

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Uh find out where a theater is near them

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We're in almost 500 theaters around the nation and that's that's how they can

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Be able to be able to see the film and it's tonight. It's um, october 13th. I'm sorry november 13th

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14th and 17th november 13 14 and 17. That's wednesday thursday and sunday

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Yeah, and that's that's an important thing to keep in mind

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If you don't get to see it on the 13th

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You still got the 14th and 17th and i'm sure that there will be streaming options and you can get the dvds at some

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Point down the road

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But we want to get people to the theaters the best way that we can and I personally highly recommend

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the whole patterns of evidence series

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um, I've interviewed tim many times about this because I love his approach this very scientific approach as a filmmaker to

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Explaining the patterns of evidence that we see the bible says this

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This is what history and archaeology says and we can trust that if god says it. It's true tim. Mahoney

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Thank you so much for being here today to talk about the israel dilemma and the patterns of evidence

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Well, thank you john for sharing it with your audience. I really appreciate I really appreciate it