The Ultimate Audio Mix-Off & Austrian Audio Giveaway

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(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) Y'all ready to be history?

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Get started.

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Welcome.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Hello, everyone.

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To the Pro Audio Suite.

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These guys are professional.

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They're motivated.

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Thanks to Tribooth, the best vocal booth for

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home or on the road voice recording, and

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Austrian Audio, making passion heard.

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Introducing Robert Marshall from Source Elements and Someone

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Audio Post, Chicago.

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Darren Robert Robertson from Voodoo Radio Imaging, Sydney.

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And tech to the VO stars, George the

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Tech Whittam from LA, and me, Andrew Peters,

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voiceover talent and home studio guy.

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Line up, man.

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Here we go.

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And welcome to another Pro Audio Suite, thanks

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to Tribooth.

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Don't forget the code, T-R-I-P

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-A-P 200.

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That will get you $200 off your Tribooth.

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And Austrian Audio, making passion heard.

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In fact, you'll be hearing it slightly differently

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with some new headphones that are releasing very

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soon.

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More passionately, yes.

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It's going to be based on the Hi

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-X 15, but they're doing a bit of

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tweaking to it, changing a few things.

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Color scheme, the internals, and also a longer

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cable.

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Three meters.

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That's a three meter long cable.

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That's great.

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Does it also come with a cable management

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system?

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Like a hose reel.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Like a fishing reel.

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Like a vacuum cleaner.

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Yeah, that, now we're talking.

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Yeah.

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So anyway, Austrian Audio have kindly given us

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a pair to give away when they're released.

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I think they're launching at AES, so by

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the time this goes out, I think we'll

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be pretty close to that date, which is

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early October.

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So we'll be giving a pair of those

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away.

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And how do you enter to win these

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headphones, you may well ask?

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Well, simply, we're asking you to do a

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bit of a mix.

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Robbo, do you want to play your mix?

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Yeah, okay.

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Well, let's just play this piece of audio.

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Experience a new destination for adventure, nature, science,

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and culture.

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National Geographic today, tonight at seven on the

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National Geographic Channel.

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Always wonder.

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All right, so there you go.

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That's what we're looking at doing.

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And just so we're clear, I'm not giving

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away any corporate secrets here.

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That piece was actually from like a year

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ago.

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So I'm not giving anything away.

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That's been to air and gone, so just

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so we're clear.

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Interesting that she chose to run the voice

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through a Leslie speaker.

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That's an interesting choice.

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Well, we revoiced it too, because I wasn't

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sure about, you know, I didn't want anybody

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to get in trouble with voiceover artists who

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hadn't authorized us to play their stuff on

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their podcast.

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So AP kindly revoiced it for us as

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well.

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Well done.

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Yeah, so that was good.

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So yeah, but so I guess, I mean,

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no one's saying match mine.

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In fact, that's exactly the point we don't

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want.

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What we'd love to hear is your interpretation

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from the conversation we had a few weeks

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ago when we did the process off with

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AP's voice.

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The idea with this one is, let's hear

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your interpretation of how you would mix that.

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Now, we're not just talking to audio engineers.

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Let's be clear here.

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We want submissions from everybody.

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We just want you to have a crack.

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I mean, the goal is basically to do

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a better job than you.

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Well, that won't be hard.

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So, you know, I'm not worried about that.

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So, but yeah, everybody, no matter where you're

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from, what you do, you know, chuck on

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a pair of headphones, throw it in Audacity

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or whatever you use and have a crack.

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Just have a go.

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It'll be judged.

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I don't know what we'll judge it on,

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but it'll be judged on something that, you

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know.

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Well, we're not judging it.

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Well, we're going to wear what we'll in

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association with the guys at Austrian Audio.

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They're going to one of their guys is

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going to jump on and have a chat

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about the new headphones and we'll play a

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few finalists and pick a winner.

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I would imagine they're going to listen to

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them on the new headphones.

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I think we have to.

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So if you want to win this, maybe

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you should buy those headphones.

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That would be hard because they're not out

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yet.

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Oh, they're in Fargo until they release at

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AES.

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So this file you're going to hear of

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everybody's mixes will be, is that going to

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be before the embargo or after the embargo?

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It'll be after the embargo.

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After the embargo.

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So, but we, you know, we'll all have

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our Austrian Audio headphones on, you know, they

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just won't be the new ones, I guess,

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but I guess what we're really looking for

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at the end of the day is just

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have some fun, seriously, just have a crack,

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you know, cause it's, you know, it's not

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brain surgery.

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It's just audio.

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So, you know, the stems are all separate

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by the way.

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So it's not like you've got to load

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up a lot of stuff for that.

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You just will put the stems in your

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session and line them all up at the

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same start point and everything will fall into

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place.

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So there's a music stem, there's a dialogue

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stem, there's AP stem, and I think there's

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a sound effects stem from memory.

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So there's only four and a weed stem.

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So yeah.

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So, but yeah, I'd encourage you to have

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a go and, and, and let's see what

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we can come up with.

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Now, Robert, because by the time this goes

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to air, of course, all the stuff that's

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happening as we speak has been and gone,

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but you're currently in London.

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I am.

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I didn't even think I'd be on this

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because I thought I'd be too sweet or

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something, but exactly.

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But no, we just got back from the

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IBC show in Amsterdam and that was really

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cool.

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Tell us about the scope of IBC for

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those that haven't been able to go.

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Yeah.

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You know, it's really, really, really heavy duty

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broadcaster.

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So it's their NAB?

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It's their NAB.

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But you know what?

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Like one thing I was kind of disappointed

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in, not a lot of small booths, not

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a lot of like little small players.

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Like NAB's got more of the little things

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that I find really exciting, you know, but

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it was all the major huge players and,

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and I, I, today I finally had a

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chance to do the big walk around and

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it is as big as NAB.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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That's big.

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But I'm trying to think if there's anything

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that I saw that was like, holy cow.

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And I'll get back to you.

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It's all blur.

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I can't think.

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Like, I don't know, sound devices is doing

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their own wireless hookups and they named it

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Nexus.

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Really?

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Yeah, I know.

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But, you know, like that, that was new

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and kind of in our area.

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When you say hookups, like transmitter speaks directly

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to their receiver mixers, like a mixer with

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receivers built in.

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You know how they have their, their recorder

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mixer and then they have this, I think

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it's called the Nexus module and it has

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some pins on it and it just docks

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right on the top of this thing and

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has all the receivers for the wireless packs

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and it adds like a whole bunch of

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tracks for you to be able to record

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on too.

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That's smart.

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That's really smart.

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Because in the meantime, for the consumers, any

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Rodecaster Pro 2 can receive a wireless Rode

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wireless mic as an input.

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So it just becomes another channel.

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Oh, like a year ago.

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So you only need the transmitter, only the

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transmitter receiver.

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You want to, you want to turn that

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transmitter into a, just another input to your

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Rodecaster and clip it to your shirt for

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like a, on camera or standing or something.

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It's another channel in your Rodecaster.

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I've, I've never heard a, of anybody selling

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a wireless mic, only the transmitter and not

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the receiver.

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No.

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But I guess Rode must do that.

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I don't think they do.

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I think it's just like, because we can,

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now we're doing this.

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But it clearly doesn't go out the multi

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-track though.

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It only comes in.

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So how's it go?

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Well, it's another pair of channels.

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It takes the place of another pair of

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channels.

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Right.

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Where's the antenna on the Rodecaster?

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It's probably using the Wi-Fi or the

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Bluetooth band or something, you know, you know,

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Rode is clever.

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Rode's slick.

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They're really clever.

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I love that I can plug my, I

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have the wireless me, which is the cheapest

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wireless set up they have.

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It's like 150 and I can plug the

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receiver directly into my phone.

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I can plug the receiver directly into my

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Mac book.

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It doesn't matter.

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And then I can, now I have a

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wireless mic going into a track and it's,

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what's the receiver like a USB receiver, basically?

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The transmitter receivers look identical.

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It's like a little inch cube, you know,

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that has the jacks and then the wireless

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me is unique in that the wireless receiver

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also has a mic.

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So you can use a second channel, you

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know, for doing interviews.

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Like I would have the wireless me receiver

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on my phone and that would be right

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in front of my face.

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And that's picking up my voice.

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Transmitters over on my subject and it's picking

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up their voice.

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And then I record and record split, split

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track or mix, depending on what you set

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it up to do.

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They're just really clever, you know, but it's

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still considered consumer or prosumer.

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Even though they have the wireless pro, the

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wireless GoPro, I think if you showed up

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at a movie set in Hollywood with anything

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wrote on it, you wouldn't, you wouldn't pass

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muster.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Sound mixers on a Hollywood film production are

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hauling around a hundred grand worth of stuff

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pretty, pretty commonly.

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Like it's, it's a level I never made

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it to.

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I was in production mixing for a while.

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I never graduated to that level.

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You know, it just, I was using Sennheiser

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evolution wireless, this stuff, you know, stuff that

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was affordable, but decent.

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And I could get away with it.

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There's a distinct gatekeeping in terms of gear,

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gear, brand, and quality when you're at this

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very high level of production where every minute

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on set costs 10 grand or whatever.

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It's just, there's a certain level that you

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have to reach.

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You know, the cameras are going to be

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RE, RED, Panavision, maybe a Sony.

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I don't know.

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There's a pretty slim pickings of what gear

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passes muster.

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I mean, actually sound devices is almost like

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an income is almost like an invader into

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this.

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Because really it's like Nagra and Diva and

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Zaxcom and sound devices, which really makes excellent

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shit as far as the hardware, but they're

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kind of the new, they're still the new

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kid on the block.

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They've been around since I got into Hollywood

331
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about 20 years, cause I had one of

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their three channel mixers and it was fantastic.

333
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Right.

334
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Um, but it was just a mixer, you

335
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know, it didn't record, you know, and so

336
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the gear package has shrunk, but the functionality

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is doubled and tripled.

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And now you're guys doing reality TV, which

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is an absolute shit show of lavalier microphones

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are running eight, 10, 12 channels into a

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bag that they're carrying around strapped to their

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chest, you know, like a harness and mixing

343
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all that shit.

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And sometimes also holding a boom over their

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head.

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So it's a whole nother world.

347
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And of course everything's multitrack, a hundred percent,

348
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everything's multitrack.

349
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So it's all changed dramatically in the 20

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years I've been, but it's cool to see

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the innovations happening.

352
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I like sound devices very much.

353
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It's a great company, very well regarded, and

354
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they have an entry point level called the

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mix pre series.

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So if you're on that, if you don't

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have the budget for the two to 5

358
00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,540
,000, you can go under a thousand and

359
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get a mix pre.

360
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What's cool about them is their preamps are

361
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very good.

362
00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:31,700
Yeah.

363
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Yeah.

364
00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:32,700
Yeah.

365
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Really top match.

366
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Well, you know, I look at the products

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we're developing or the first product anywhere we're

368
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developing with centrants and I really look at

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centrants as sort of like akin to that

370
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level in terms of build quality, professionalism, circuit

371
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design, and everything, but going a different way

372
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because, you know, the centrant stuff is analog

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internally.

374
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It's analog, you know, right now that stuff's

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being vetted and tested.

376
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In fact, by the time you hear this

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very good chance, we're going to have that

378
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things, those things in our hot little hands.

379
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It might be available by Christmas.

380
00:12:07,020 --> 00:12:07,180
Yeah.

381
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I think before that actually.

382
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Before that, it's really going to come down

383
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to this first round.

384
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If this product, the beta product or the

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pilot, what do we call it?

386
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Prototype.

387
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Prototype.

388
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It's a prototype.

389
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That's out well.

390
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I mean, we're literally seeing screenshots right now

391
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of the driver.

392
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Now there's a record and a communications channel,

393
00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:29,940
you know, showing, I'm like, yes, this is

394
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what I've been wanting to see forever.

395
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Now I'm finally getting excited again, you know.

396
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It's even looking at the box label and

397
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stuff.

398
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That's all.

399
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Yeah.

400
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It's very exciting right now.

401
00:12:41,580 --> 00:12:45,180
So anything, so IBC, it's definitely the NAB

402
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for Europe.

403
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If you're in Europe and you have a

404
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chance to go, it's worth going.

405
00:12:49,300 --> 00:12:49,680
Yeah.

406
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I was going to say there were a

407
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lot of USB wireless mics and little wireless

408
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systems kind of like what you described and

409
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very tiny, but yeah, I didn't see anything

410
00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,560
beating myself up because I did go running

411
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around looking for stuff.

412
00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,040
It's so hard, man.

413
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Because, you know, there's a lot that's not

414
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relevant to you.

415
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So you kind of glaze over it and

416
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then you cherry pick and you get lucky

417
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and you find one cool thing.

418
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And then, and then it, that gets lost

419
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in a wash of the other a hundred

420
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things that you saw.

421
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You know, so unless you're like me and

422
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you document video everything and make content, you

423
00:13:26,820 --> 00:13:29,320
forget, you know, that's half the reason I

424
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make content is so I can remember the

425
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stuff that I saw.

426
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I'll tell you what I saw that's cool.

427
00:13:35,660 --> 00:13:37,600
Pro Tools, Robbo, you're going to love this.

428
00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,740
Pro Tools now has a text or audio

429
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to text feature.

430
00:13:43,220 --> 00:13:45,760
So you're looking at the timeline and you

431
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see the words below the waveform.

432
00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,740
And if you click on the word, it

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highlights the whole portion of the waveform that

434
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is that word.

435
00:13:52,500 --> 00:13:53,300
Like the script.

436
00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:56,040
You can search the bin and you can

437
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search the bin for words.

438
00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:58,780
About time.

439
00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,340
Oh my God.

440
00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,320
It's really good.

441
00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:02,280
Oh yes.

442
00:14:02,740 --> 00:14:03,300
That's good.

443
00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:04,000
I will be using that.

444
00:14:04,140 --> 00:14:05,020
They said it won't be out.

445
00:14:05,180 --> 00:14:05,860
I mean, it's like this.

446
00:14:05,940 --> 00:14:06,820
It's not the next version.

447
00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,180
It's not the next, but the guy was

448
00:14:08,180 --> 00:14:10,760
showing me like the, the alpha thing.

449
00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,300
Yeah.

450
00:14:11,300 --> 00:14:12,160
Oh wow.

451
00:14:12,300 --> 00:14:14,440
Can I use that now, please?

452
00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,500
Did you guys also see that you can

453
00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:18,620
look at Spectral View?

454
00:14:19,380 --> 00:14:20,720
Did you know, did you already know that

455
00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,180
you could look at Spectral View in Pro

456
00:14:22,180 --> 00:14:24,300
Tools so you can see the Isotope Spectral

457
00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:25,320
View embedded in there?

458
00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,520
That's all a system called ARA, which Pro

459
00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,400
Tools is, again, late to the game on.

460
00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,040
That's been in every DAW for three years

461
00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:39,240
because that's a thing that Melodyne, I believe

462
00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,720
Melodyne and a few other plugin manufacturers created.

463
00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:45,520
And everyone's like, when is fricking Pro Tools

464
00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:45,780
going to support this?

465
00:14:45,780 --> 00:14:48,660
Well, given Melodyne's in Pro Tools with the,

466
00:14:48,660 --> 00:14:51,260
you know, audio to MIDI functions and all

467
00:14:51,260 --> 00:14:52,800
that sort of stuff that they're running, you'd

468
00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:53,940
think they'd be a bit more on the

469
00:14:53,940 --> 00:14:54,520
ball, wouldn't you?

470
00:14:55,460 --> 00:14:55,760
Yeah.

471
00:14:56,020 --> 00:14:58,380
You can load Wave Lab into that.

472
00:14:58,880 --> 00:14:59,600
Oh, okay.

473
00:14:59,740 --> 00:14:59,940
Andrew.

474
00:15:00,540 --> 00:15:02,420
You know, I'm not, I'm obviously not a

475
00:15:02,420 --> 00:15:05,320
Pro Tools guy, but they seem to play

476
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the Apple card, which is, we're not going

477
00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:07,760
to be first.

478
00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,540
We're going to wait.

479
00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:10,740
We're going to develop a lot.

480
00:15:10,820 --> 00:15:11,960
We're going to spend a lot of time

481
00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,020
in development and testing.

482
00:15:13,780 --> 00:15:15,300
We're going to make sure when it comes

483
00:15:15,300 --> 00:15:17,520
out, it's rock solid because they have to.

484
00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,760
They cannot afford to release something half-baked

485
00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,180
like some third-party Android phone.

486
00:15:23,180 --> 00:15:25,320
You know where they've missed the mark in

487
00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,120
that is the audio.

488
00:15:26,180 --> 00:15:27,000
We were just talking about that.

489
00:15:27,020 --> 00:15:30,020
The audio to MIDI thing I find sometimes

490
00:15:30,020 --> 00:15:33,560
works really well, but sometimes works really poorly

491
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as well.

492
00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:34,820
It just depends.

493
00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:35,920
It's really hit and miss.

494
00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,800
And that's, you know, whether you're using, you're

495
00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,380
picked with rhythmic or, you know, any of

496
00:15:40,380 --> 00:15:42,320
the other sort of presets that they give

497
00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,840
you to pick when you're dropping audio down

498
00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,140
from an audio track to a MIDI track,

499
00:15:46,220 --> 00:15:47,820
I find it really sort of clumsy.

500
00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,280
Talking of recording a multi-track, I assume

501
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we can talk about this because you had

502
00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,920
already been to your meeting and demonstration, Robert,

503
00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,900
but you're off to my old neck of

504
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the woods tomorrow.

505
00:16:01,620 --> 00:16:03,480
You're going to Warner Brothers?

506
00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:04,840
Going to Watford.

507
00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:06,120
Yes.

508
00:16:06,980 --> 00:16:09,700
We're going to wherever Warner Brothers is, and

509
00:16:09,700 --> 00:16:12,340
we're showing a whole bunch of film mixers,

510
00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:19,080
Source Elements' new feature, which, well, Dolby still

511
00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,260
won't let us officially announce it because we're

512
00:16:21,260 --> 00:16:24,280
still waiting on official certification, but that is

513
00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,540
basically going to happen for sure.

514
00:16:27,060 --> 00:16:27,860
So I'll say it.

515
00:16:27,860 --> 00:16:31,840
We partnered and worked with Dolby, and they

516
00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,000
tweaked the Dolby Atmos renderer, and now it

517
00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,740
works hand-in-hand with Source Connect so

518
00:16:38,740 --> 00:16:43,220
that you can imagine a, because, you know,

519
00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,280
Dolby Atmos in a mixed theater is not

520
00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,220
714, it's not 916.

521
00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,480
We're talking about 20 speakers, like that's the

522
00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,020
theatrical rendering of Dolby Atmos.

523
00:16:53,850 --> 00:16:57,060
So for us, this is like a real

524
00:16:57,060 --> 00:17:01,640
marquee product, essentially imagine a film is being

525
00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,619
mixed in LA, and the director and the

526
00:17:05,619 --> 00:17:07,900
writer and producers, they're in London.

527
00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,440
So two big mix stages hook up, hook

528
00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,060
up on Source Connect 4, stream the bed

529
00:17:16,060 --> 00:17:20,640
and all the objects, which means with Atmos,

530
00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:23,900
129 channels of audio, and then all the

531
00:17:23,900 --> 00:17:24,760
panning metadata.

532
00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:28,560
And you have basically two mix theaters running

533
00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,380
in parallel for review and approval of a

534
00:17:32,380 --> 00:17:33,120
theatrical mix.

535
00:17:33,140 --> 00:17:35,920
So it's going to allow a collaborative thing,

536
00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,420
cross continents or whatever, that was just not

537
00:17:39,420 --> 00:17:40,320
possible before.

538
00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,240
Before you would have had to do it

539
00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,960
all, wait, render, mix, or whatever, send, let

540
00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,300
the other guys listen and approve, over and

541
00:17:50,300 --> 00:17:51,760
over and over and over, rinse and repeat.

542
00:17:52,020 --> 00:17:52,680
Pin the tail on the donkey.

543
00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:53,920
Like, nope.

544
00:17:54,460 --> 00:17:55,840
Yeah, pin the tail on the donkey, no

545
00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,040
I don't like that, no I don't like

546
00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:57,920
that, no I don't, yeah.

547
00:17:58,100 --> 00:17:58,200
Right.

548
00:17:58,460 --> 00:17:58,700
Yeah.

549
00:17:59,140 --> 00:17:59,980
Wow, that's fun.

550
00:17:59,980 --> 00:18:02,360
So now it's like, you know, just, whatever,

551
00:18:02,700 --> 00:18:07,880
700 milliseconds away, and talk back right to

552
00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:08,580
the, you know.

553
00:18:08,580 --> 00:18:13,500
I remember, Robert, when we did that session,

554
00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:16,060
and you were working, well actually it wasn't

555
00:18:16,060 --> 00:18:17,620
our session, it was the session with the

556
00:18:17,620 --> 00:18:22,060
orchestra in Austria, when you were working 5

557
00:18:22,060 --> 00:18:25,060
.1 in your studio in Chicago, down the

558
00:18:25,060 --> 00:18:26,720
line, and that was like a big deal.

559
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,880
That was a big deal, and that was

560
00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:29,920
only five years ago.

561
00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:30,620
Yeah.

562
00:18:31,060 --> 00:18:33,100
And you know, it's crazy, when Rebecca and

563
00:18:33,100 --> 00:18:34,780
I were testing this, I mean, you guys

564
00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:36,740
know about my shit internet at home, right?

565
00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:37,380
Yep.

566
00:18:37,380 --> 00:18:37,480
Yes we do.

567
00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,460
I've got a normal cable connection, and my

568
00:18:40,460 --> 00:18:44,940
normal cable connection is slung over low frequency

569
00:18:44,940 --> 00:18:49,880
900 megahertz wireless to my house, which then

570
00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,380
goes to my computer over wifi through at

571
00:18:52,380 --> 00:18:55,420
least one good wall, and then Rebecca was

572
00:18:55,420 --> 00:18:59,020
in Europe on 4G, and I shit you

573
00:18:59,020 --> 00:19:01,580
not, we did 88 channels without a problem.

574
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,060
Bloody hell.

575
00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:03,880
Yeah.

576
00:19:04,660 --> 00:19:06,980
You know, and that's all like 30 mega

577
00:19:06,980 --> 00:19:10,700
upload, download, you know, the 4G download was

578
00:19:10,700 --> 00:19:15,060
more than 30, but yeah, we were both

579
00:19:15,060 --> 00:19:16,900
expecting it, like, let's just see what happens,

580
00:19:16,980 --> 00:19:18,280
it might drop out a bunch, but we

581
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,440
need to test this, and it just worked.

582
00:19:20,700 --> 00:19:21,920
What's that Bruce Springsteen song?

583
00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:23,660
Is that 88 channels and nothing on?

584
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,460
No, I was thinking it was 52 channels,

585
00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:26,740
wasn't it?

586
00:19:26,820 --> 00:19:27,860
Right, it's just, yeah.

587
00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:28,320
Yeah.

588
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:29,040
There you go.

589
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,460
Maybe Bruce could come up with a new

590
00:19:30,460 --> 00:19:30,600
song.

591
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:31,360
I don't know if you could get Bruce

592
00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:35,140
to do a jingle for you, you know,

593
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,360
88 channels and plenty on, or something like

594
00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:38,760
that.

595
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,440
Yeah, 88 channels and everyone working.

596
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:40,740
Yeah, there you go.

597
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,160
Everyone connected.

598
00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:44,700
Come on, Bruce.

599
00:19:45,860 --> 00:19:46,520
I know you're listening.

600
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:46,900
Not gonna say sorry.

601
00:19:46,900 --> 00:19:47,700
Come on, Bruce.

602
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:47,940
Yeah.

603
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,780
I was just gonna say, to conclude this

604
00:19:50,780 --> 00:19:52,800
episode, don't forget, talking about multi-tracks, we

605
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,520
have the stems, which will be in the

606
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:55,380
show notes, is that right?

607
00:19:55,460 --> 00:19:56,740
That will be in the show notes, and

608
00:19:56,740 --> 00:20:00,580
before we conclude the episode, and since we're

609
00:20:00,580 --> 00:20:02,300
on the subject of Austrian Audio, I would

610
00:20:02,300 --> 00:20:04,380
like to give another shout out to Austrian

611
00:20:04,380 --> 00:20:06,780
Audio for another reason, for their generosity.

612
00:20:07,020 --> 00:20:11,420
I've been mentoring my neighbor's son, who only

613
00:20:11,420 --> 00:20:13,280
left school last year and is an aspiring

614
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,500
audio engineer, and on a whim, I wrote

615
00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:20,280
a, because he's been borrowing my microphones and

616
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,620
experimenting with them, and not that I mind

617
00:20:22,620 --> 00:20:24,040
that, but on a whim, I wrote an

618
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,820
email to Bernd at Austrian Audio, and mentioned

619
00:20:27,820 --> 00:20:30,480
what I'd been helping Tyler do, and sort

620
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:31,720
of said, is there anything you can do

621
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,180
to help, and in the mail, turns up

622
00:20:34,180 --> 00:20:37,500
a My Creator set, so the satellite as

623
00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:41,860
well as the main mic, so Tyler's been

624
00:20:41,860 --> 00:20:44,060
down there recording his guitar and his vocals,

625
00:20:44,420 --> 00:20:48,260
and mucking around recording his dad, who's also

626
00:20:48,260 --> 00:20:51,380
a violinist, and doing some really cool stuff,

627
00:20:51,580 --> 00:20:53,880
so a big shout out to the guys

628
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,240
at Austrian Audio for supporting the next generation,

629
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,760
as well as us old guys with no

630
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,060
hair, or grey hair, or falling out, or

631
00:21:02,060 --> 00:21:02,340
whatever.

632
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,000
Well, I don't think, there's plenty of hair

633
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,800
on Robert, so if we get short, we

634
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,240
can borrow some from him.

635
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,400
That's right, very Sean Connery.

636
00:21:07,700 --> 00:21:08,400
Yeah, exactly.

637
00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:11,080
I was thinking more shaggy than Sean.

638
00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:16,300
Yeah, but seriously, thanks guys, it's well appreciated,

639
00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:17,700
and Tyler's having a great time.

640
00:21:18,700 --> 00:21:20,080
Well, that was fun, is it over?