Starting Your Home Studio: Gear Essentials and Expert Tips

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(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai - Go Unlimited to remove this message) Y'all ready to be history?

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Get started.

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Welcome.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Hello, everyone.

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To the pro audio suite.

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These guys are professional, they're motivated.

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Thanks to Triboose, the best vocal booths for

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home or on the road voice recording.

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And Austrian Audio, making passion heard.

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Introducing Robert Marshall from Source Elements and someone

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audio post Chicago.

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Darren Robert Robertson from Voodoo Radio Imaging, Sydney.

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Next to the VO stars, George the Tech

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Witten from L.A. And me, Andrew Pickers,

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voice over talent and home studio guy.

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And welcome to another pro audio suite.

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And Austrian Audio, making passion heard.

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We're once again joined by Matt Calrich.

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Afternoon, evening, morning, g'day, whatever time it is

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when you're listening to this.

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We got a question and it was actually

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sent from our mutual agent, Matt, in Australia,

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asking if we could help out with some

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recommendations for gear for people setting up their

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first home studio for voice over, of course.

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So we thought we'd do a bit of

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a round table and just come up with

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some ideas.

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I think...

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Can of worms.

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Yeah, can of worms, but it's got to

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be like, you know, moderate budget, microphone interface,

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headphones, and probably a space.

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We need to talk about that as well,

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because there's no point having all that stuff

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in the middle of the kitchen.

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You've got to start with space, don't you,

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really?

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You've really got to start with space.

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I'm happy to lead off here.

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I mean, I've built my wife, for those

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who don't know, does voice over.

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You built your wife?

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Yeah, I did.

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Yeah, I built my wife.

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That's another episode.

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That's a whole other episode, absolutely.

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A brave new world.

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But I actually built her a booth in

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our walk-in wardrobe, which is perfect.

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There was one bare wall, which I've put

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some treatment on, but then just put clothing

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around, and just by sort of playing with

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the amount of clothing that was in a

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certain spot, I've managed to build her a

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little sort of booth that works magically.

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And she's on a 41.6, because at

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the time, there was only about three mics

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in the house compared to now, and so

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I've been lazy and never changed it, I

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guess because her clients have got used to

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that sound as well.

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And she's just on an AI1.

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So, God, what's that work out to?

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The 41.6 is the big piece.

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The 41.6 is the big one, and

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you could knock that out and make it

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an NTG5, probably just as easily.

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Or an NTG1.

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NT1, sorry.

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So, what are you looking at there?

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You're looking at well under.

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250 for the point.

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US.

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Well, the NT1, you just buy the pack,

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the sort of combo kit of the AI1

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and the NT1.

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It's not the NT1A.

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Not the NT1A.

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That pack comes with just the NT1.

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There you go.

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The other one I might throw in there

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is the OC16.

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What's the OC16 in, like, 400?

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400 US.

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Look, I'm hopeless with prices, but yeah, it's

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not, especially US prices, but yeah, it's sort

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of in the same ballpark as the others,

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I guess.

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I always think, like, the NT1 is, like,

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the beginning of a mic that's pretty much

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an investment.

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You can use it for all time.

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It's something that you'll keep.

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Probably the only thing with the OC16 is

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without being able to select patterns and stuff,

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you'd want to make sure that your room

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was in reasonably good shape.

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It could get messy.

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So, if your room's in reasonably good shape,

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it would probably be all right.

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But, yeah, they'd be my pick for a

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low cost, absolutely.

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I think the II1 and the NT1 is

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a good starting point if you don't want

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to spend too much money.

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OC16, they're about $500 US for one of

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those, but then you've got an interface you

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want.

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So, would you get an AI1, or would

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you step it up a bit?

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I mean, I've got the little SSL2 interface.

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Yeah, it's a little more gain.

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I mean, you may or may not need

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it, but my feeling on the AI1 is

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it's a little bit weak on the preamp.

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It's okay that it kind of doesn't have

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many features, like the monitor is just a

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push button.

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It's really good and simple, but the preamp's

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a little bit weak on it.

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But if you had an NTG5, because that's

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got massive output, that would work okay with

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an AI1.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's just the most flexible interface.

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Yeah, what I do like, and we experimented

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with this a few episodes back, was the

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SSL2 with that 4K button.

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You can actually really have one mic and

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turn your mic into a 416.

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Well, was it the OC, was it the

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18 or the 818?

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The OC, it was actually, I said it

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was the OC18, but when I think about

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it now, it's actually 818, but it was

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on cardioid, so no difference.

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as well.

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And yeah, once you hit that 4K button,

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it was like you had two mics in

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one, wasn't it?

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Yeah, exactly.

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It was a great idea.

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And those SSLs are what, like 300 bucks?

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Yeah, so they're pretty good, actually.

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I think they're great value, actually, from what

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you get.

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How much is the AI1 compared to like

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a Scarlett Solo?

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About the same kind of money, I think,

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maybe a little bit more for an AI1.

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I think the Scarlett's a slightly better piece,

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but George, what's your opinion?

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I don't know, I've had too many AI1s

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be freaky, not super stinky.

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I've had at least one go out on

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me.

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Yeah, I've not been recommending that one.

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Tanae's had hers in the booth now for

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three years, probably.

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I don't think they do well on the

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road, actually.

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But Andrew, you've traveled with yours quite a

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bit, right?

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I did travel with it quite a bit,

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and then Somerset took it all over the

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place when she was away, so she's got

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it in her bag now.

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I don't know if it's the batches or

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what.

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It's like, I definitely had one go out

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on me, and I think George did.

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Maybe it's the switching or something.

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But I do also really like the, having

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just recently got one, the Micport Pro.

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Super small.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's what you use, isn't it, Matt?

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Yeah, when traveling.

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And the pre on that is surprisingly decent

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for just like little five volt USB deal.

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Well, having said that, I suppose you could,

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you know, if you're setting up your first

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studio, there's no reason you couldn't use a

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Micport Pro.

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The Micport Pro, though, jumps up.

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I mean, how much is a Micport Pro?

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300 bucks, right?

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I think, yeah.

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US might be, is it 300 bucks?

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Yeah, it's more than that.

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I think it's 350.

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Yeah, I was thinking it was like 450

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Canadian.

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But it's a good piece because like, I

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always think of these things that are like,

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what are you going to buy that you

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might keep instead of just getting the cheapest

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thing?

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What's the cheapest thing that still is somewhat

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an investment?

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And it's hard to beat the Micport Pro

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in terms of a travel interface.

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But they could do like we talked about

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last week with the car kit, the car

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rig, just sticking a 416 or an NTG5

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straight into the Micport Pro.

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And all you need is your mic stand

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in your booth is just the adapter, the

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camera connector that connects to the bottom of

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the Micport Pro.

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I think if you plan on doing the

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car thing, a shotgun is...

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We're not going to cars, kids.

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That's Black Belt.

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We're doing beginner studios.

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Yeah, yeah, I was going to say, we're

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getting well out of the realm of beginner

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studios here.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And one thing I like about the Micport

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Pro is that you don't need software to

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run it.

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And so you don't have to deal with

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any of that planned obsolescence or those sorts

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of problems.

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As long as the circuitry and the physical

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parts in the Micport Pro are going, then

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it can last you for a long, long

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time.

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From what I know, if you're getting a

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Micport Pro, you're getting the same...

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If you get the Passport VO, you're getting

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the same grade circuitry, the same quality preamp.

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Everything is...

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Is it the Jasmine preamp?

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Yeah.

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Everything works on their Jasmine preamp circuit design,

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which is a good, clean, high-gain preamp.

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It's hard to go wrong.

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There's one little thing that I don't like

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about their battery-powered products, which is why

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the Passport does not have a battery.

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And you tell me if this is true

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for you that use this product, is it

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has to have some charge to function.

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Don't run that thing down.

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It will not go from dead to working

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in 10 seconds.

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I think the battery acts like a capacitor

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for the whole thing.

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Did you...

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Have you noticed that?

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I definitely have.

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I remember helping a very stressed-out talent,

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because...

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...it finally figured out.

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It just had to be plugged in.

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And all of a sudden, the computer's like,

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hello.

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But it had to be plugged in for

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a while.

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I had to charge up.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Because I think they bought it and then

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didn't touch it for six months.

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Well, that's...

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See, that's the thing.

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When it's a battery-powered product that you

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use for your travel kit, it is going

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to be dead when you pull it out.

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So if you think, I'm going to pull

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it out of my bag, plug it in,

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and hit record within the first 10 seconds,

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sorry, Charlie, not happening.

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It's got to charge.

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So that's the only thing, and that's one

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of the reasons why the passport does not

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have it, but I digress.

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Shall I now tell you what I would

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recommend?

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No, no, no, wait, wait.

298
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Andrew, shouldn't this be the end?

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The end of what?

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My life?

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That's our out.

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That's our out.

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Yeah, that's right.

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Let's cut out before the others go.

305
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Is that good?

306
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I think you should use a...

307
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And the killer wars.

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I'm not going to make any sponsors happy,

309
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but that's okay.

310
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That's not the point.

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I think a mic that just repeatedly surprises

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me in how good it sounds at the

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price is the AT875R shotgun mic from Audio

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Technica.

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It just sounds good.

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Is it the lowest self noise?

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No.

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It's a little hissy when you compare to

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a large diaphragm condenser, for sure.

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But it's tonal balance, just the EQ of

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the mic.

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The fact that it is a shotgun mic

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means it's a little bit more forgiving to

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less than great rooms, and it just always

325
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sounds good.

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So that's my choice for first-timer mic

327
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when I have plenty of options to choose

328
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from, of course.

329
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And then for the interface, one that we

330
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never talk about.

331
00:10:07,870 --> 00:10:10,290
Again, really budget-conscious here, folks.

332
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Steinberg came out with a new variation of

333
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their UR series called the IXO series.

334
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And there's the Steinberg IXO22 audio interface.

335
00:10:23,910 --> 00:10:26,030
And what makes it stand out are a

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few things.

337
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One, it's $120 US.

338
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I'm sorry.

339
00:10:30,910 --> 00:10:34,430
The IXO12, there's also a 22.

340
00:10:35,130 --> 00:10:37,270
So the 12 is the single mic preamp

341
00:10:37,270 --> 00:10:38,190
variation.

342
00:10:39,310 --> 00:10:41,110
It's very inexpensive, right?

343
00:10:41,870 --> 00:10:42,190
$120 US.

344
00:10:42,970 --> 00:10:44,510
And it has a few little tricks up

345
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its sleeve.

346
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Not only does it have a loopback mode,

347
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but it has a mute button.

348
00:10:53,250 --> 00:10:56,270
So it's got dedicated mute on-off switches

349
00:10:56,270 --> 00:10:58,290
for the mic and the guitar input.

350
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And then when you hold down the monitor

351
00:11:00,430 --> 00:11:02,250
button, it engages loopback.

352
00:11:03,610 --> 00:11:06,510
I mean, for $120 US, that's pretty clever

353
00:11:07,110 --> 00:11:10,530
for a pretty small, easy-to-use interface.

354
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That's my recommendation there at the beginner price

355
00:11:13,710 --> 00:11:14,410
point level.

356
00:11:15,210 --> 00:11:17,970
And then headphones, we didn't mention headphones yet.

357
00:11:18,890 --> 00:11:20,710
You know, I'm not that picky about headphones.

358
00:11:20,930 --> 00:11:23,950
I think headphones have to be worn to

359
00:11:23,950 --> 00:11:24,450
appreciate.

360
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And so you just got to try stuff

361
00:11:27,590 --> 00:11:27,930
out.

362
00:11:28,270 --> 00:11:29,490
I mean, if you've got a pair of

363
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headphones that you already wear and you like,

364
00:11:31,890 --> 00:11:32,730
go ahead and use them.

365
00:11:33,270 --> 00:11:35,290
Even if they're beats, even if they're not

366
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like the best studio headphones, if you know

367
00:11:38,630 --> 00:11:41,150
them and like them, wear them, is my

368
00:11:41,150 --> 00:11:41,450
opinion.

369
00:11:41,930 --> 00:11:43,590
But they should be closed back.

370
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And make sure they seal well.

371
00:11:46,130 --> 00:11:48,130
They should be closed back, yes.

372
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Closed back cans.

373
00:11:50,050 --> 00:11:52,430
So I've got a couple different closed back

374
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cans that I jump between.

375
00:11:54,070 --> 00:11:56,010
But, you know, at the budget end, the

376
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AudioTendica series, the ATH-M 20s, 30s, 40s.

377
00:12:03,230 --> 00:12:04,410
All are amazing.

378
00:12:04,950 --> 00:12:07,710
The Austrian Audio Hi-X 15s.

379
00:12:08,010 --> 00:12:09,210
Yeah, they're good.

380
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The 15s.

381
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Hi-X 15s.

382
00:12:12,370 --> 00:12:12,550
Hi-X.

383
00:12:12,570 --> 00:12:14,510
I have those and I love them.

384
00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:15,910
I've been wearing them more and more and

385
00:12:15,910 --> 00:12:18,270
more now because they're just so stinkin' comfortable.

386
00:12:19,370 --> 00:12:21,150
Really comfortable and they sound nice.

387
00:12:22,070 --> 00:12:24,310
So yeah, that's the same price as the

388
00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:24,650
interface.

389
00:12:24,910 --> 00:12:25,210
That's right.

390
00:12:25,490 --> 00:12:27,570
But yeah, you can get cheaper headphones.

391
00:12:28,750 --> 00:12:31,390
And then Twisted Wave is my go-to

392
00:12:31,390 --> 00:12:31,850
DAW too.

393
00:12:31,850 --> 00:12:34,950
We didn't mention DAWs, but because it's Windows

394
00:12:34,950 --> 00:12:38,250
and Mac now, I can build custom stacks

395
00:12:38,250 --> 00:12:41,110
on the Mac variation of Twisted Wave that

396
00:12:41,110 --> 00:12:44,130
you can open in the Windows variation, which

397
00:12:44,130 --> 00:12:44,930
is really cool.

398
00:12:45,330 --> 00:12:46,350
Crossing the streams.

399
00:12:46,550 --> 00:12:48,650
Crossing the streams by using VST plugins.

400
00:12:49,970 --> 00:12:52,610
So, you know, 100 US for that software.

401
00:12:54,210 --> 00:12:56,910
And that's a pretty solid kit right there,

402
00:12:57,090 --> 00:12:57,390
you know.

403
00:12:57,390 --> 00:13:00,130
A couple of little more accoutrement for mounting

404
00:13:00,130 --> 00:13:02,930
your accessories in your closet.

405
00:13:03,430 --> 00:13:07,150
What's your thought of the 7506 cliche for

406
00:13:07,150 --> 00:13:07,550
headphones?

407
00:13:08,150 --> 00:13:08,650
You don't like them, right?

408
00:13:08,650 --> 00:13:09,570
You know, it's so funny.

409
00:13:10,070 --> 00:13:12,130
We have them at the Donna Fontaine VoiceOver

410
00:13:12,130 --> 00:13:15,050
Lab that we're fixin' to reopen soon.

411
00:13:15,190 --> 00:13:17,530
I was actually over there last week and

412
00:13:17,530 --> 00:13:19,830
testing out all the patching in the walls

413
00:13:19,830 --> 00:13:21,270
and making sure everything works.

414
00:13:22,510 --> 00:13:24,150
And that's what they have there, you know.

415
00:13:24,230 --> 00:13:25,410
So I was listening to them for the

416
00:13:25,410 --> 00:13:27,230
first time, I would say with fresh ears.

417
00:13:27,410 --> 00:13:29,010
You know, I hadn't had a pair of

418
00:13:29,010 --> 00:13:30,330
Sony's on my head in quite a while.

419
00:13:30,330 --> 00:13:31,850
And I was pretty pleased with how they

420
00:13:31,850 --> 00:13:32,150
sounded.

421
00:13:33,290 --> 00:13:35,890
So, you know, maybe because they're broken in,

422
00:13:36,090 --> 00:13:38,630
maybe because my, you know, I'm not as

423
00:13:38,630 --> 00:13:40,430
sensitive to high frequency as I used to

424
00:13:40,430 --> 00:13:40,730
be.

425
00:13:41,410 --> 00:13:43,550
But, you know, they're decent.

426
00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:45,650
I think they're just fiddly with a really

427
00:13:45,650 --> 00:13:48,770
annoying cable and, I don't know, not my

428
00:13:48,770 --> 00:13:49,050
major.

429
00:13:49,290 --> 00:13:49,570
They fold up.

430
00:13:49,730 --> 00:13:50,850
They fold up pretty good.

431
00:13:51,050 --> 00:13:51,550
They fold up.

432
00:13:51,970 --> 00:13:53,530
But the coily cable is annoying.

433
00:13:54,070 --> 00:13:55,850
You know, I'm not a fan of that.

434
00:13:56,050 --> 00:13:57,350
But anyway, that's a solid gear.

435
00:13:57,350 --> 00:13:58,110
If you don't take care of the coily

436
00:13:58,110 --> 00:13:59,770
cable and it gets stretched out in weird

437
00:13:59,770 --> 00:14:01,130
places, it gets really annoying.

438
00:14:01,730 --> 00:14:02,490
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

439
00:14:02,810 --> 00:14:03,510
It's funny, isn't it?

440
00:14:03,630 --> 00:14:06,050
When you, like Matt was saying last week

441
00:14:06,050 --> 00:14:09,230
about, you know, having the universal audio outboard

442
00:14:09,230 --> 00:14:12,690
gear that has since been moved on, the

443
00:14:12,690 --> 00:14:14,750
more we go down this track of these

444
00:14:14,750 --> 00:14:16,990
interfaces and stuff, talking about the Passport VA

445
00:14:16,990 --> 00:14:18,910
that will be with us very soon, fingers

446
00:14:18,910 --> 00:14:19,190
crossed.

447
00:14:20,670 --> 00:14:22,490
All that stuff is fast becoming redundant.

448
00:14:22,890 --> 00:14:25,370
Really, we, you know, the travel rig, you

449
00:14:25,370 --> 00:14:26,790
can stick in your booth, and that's all

450
00:14:26,790 --> 00:14:28,350
you really need, to be honest.

451
00:14:28,650 --> 00:14:29,270
That's true.

452
00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:32,430
That's why I wonder about that audio technical

453
00:14:32,430 --> 00:14:32,710
mic.

454
00:14:32,810 --> 00:14:34,790
Do you consider that something that someone might

455
00:14:34,790 --> 00:14:36,510
keep in their kit long-term, or at

456
00:14:36,510 --> 00:14:38,690
some point, they definitely outgrow it, and it's...

457
00:14:39,170 --> 00:14:41,270
Like I said, I think it's only shortcoming

458
00:14:41,270 --> 00:14:42,810
is it's self-noise is a little bit

459
00:14:42,810 --> 00:14:43,230
elevated.

460
00:14:43,870 --> 00:14:45,810
You know, I know the sound of that

461
00:14:45,810 --> 00:14:47,150
mic because I've heard it a lot.

462
00:14:47,210 --> 00:14:48,810
And when I hear the self-noise, I

463
00:14:48,810 --> 00:14:50,810
go, yep, that's, it's little Achilles heel.

464
00:14:50,810 --> 00:14:52,570
It works on a pretty wide range of

465
00:14:52,570 --> 00:14:53,890
phantom, does the...

466
00:14:53,890 --> 00:14:56,270
Yeah, it's a very, like, robust throw in

467
00:14:56,270 --> 00:14:56,650
your video.

468
00:14:56,830 --> 00:14:58,090
It's the kind of mic that would not

469
00:14:58,090 --> 00:14:59,010
be treated nicely.

470
00:14:59,710 --> 00:15:01,230
It'd be kept in the camera guy's kit,

471
00:15:01,930 --> 00:15:03,450
you know, and not respected.

472
00:15:04,010 --> 00:15:05,170
That's the mic.

473
00:15:05,530 --> 00:15:07,390
You know, it's really made to be strapped

474
00:15:07,390 --> 00:15:09,250
onto a video camera and just be there.

475
00:15:09,890 --> 00:15:11,890
But it's just shockingly decent.

476
00:15:12,270 --> 00:15:14,670
It's just a really pleasing sounding mic.

477
00:15:14,950 --> 00:15:16,970
Not harsh, not overly crisp and bright.

478
00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:19,810
Not dead flat, you know, because there's...

479
00:15:19,810 --> 00:15:21,590
What's the other Audio Technica?

480
00:15:21,790 --> 00:15:24,770
There's the Audio Technica 435?

481
00:15:25,750 --> 00:15:27,090
Well, there's a 4073.

482
00:15:27,950 --> 00:15:29,370
And I had a 4073.

483
00:15:29,530 --> 00:15:31,230
That was my boom mic of choice when

484
00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:33,850
I started into the biz 20 years ago.

485
00:15:33,850 --> 00:15:34,790
And it sounds awesome.

486
00:15:35,130 --> 00:15:36,910
I had Lori Allen get one for her

487
00:15:36,910 --> 00:15:38,430
road kit just to save a little bit

488
00:15:38,430 --> 00:15:38,770
of money.

489
00:15:40,050 --> 00:15:42,450
And it's not much cheaper than a 41

490
00:15:42,450 --> 00:15:44,130
.6, but it's less expensive.

491
00:15:44,990 --> 00:15:46,650
And it's a very good mic.

492
00:15:46,650 --> 00:15:47,770
I believe it's still...

493
00:15:47,770 --> 00:15:50,010
I believe they still make that model too.

494
00:15:50,390 --> 00:15:51,550
I think there's another one.

495
00:15:52,090 --> 00:15:54,670
There's an Audio Technica shotgun mic that actually

496
00:15:54,670 --> 00:15:58,350
works off a Phantom or Double A.

497
00:15:58,570 --> 00:16:00,350
They make a lot of different shotgun mics.

498
00:16:00,350 --> 00:16:01,350
8035, I think.

499
00:16:01,570 --> 00:16:04,050
I think the 808035.

500
00:16:04,210 --> 00:16:04,650
Let me see if that's...

501
00:16:04,650 --> 00:16:04,950
Could be.

502
00:16:05,750 --> 00:16:07,650
Yeah, because by the way, that's no longer

503
00:16:07,650 --> 00:16:10,610
called the AT4073.

504
00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:13,770
It's not called the BP4073.

505
00:16:14,170 --> 00:16:16,010
So if somebody's searching and not finding it,

506
00:16:16,010 --> 00:16:16,990
they change the name.

507
00:16:17,410 --> 00:16:18,630
I would just...

508
00:16:18,630 --> 00:16:20,630
I would kick off and just like bite

509
00:16:20,630 --> 00:16:24,570
the bullet by a 41.6, a mic

510
00:16:24,570 --> 00:16:28,970
port pro, and a pair of decent headphones

511
00:16:29,670 --> 00:16:32,270
and twisted wave and you're going, you're on.

512
00:16:33,390 --> 00:16:33,910
That would be...

513
00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:35,070
Because you're not going to be sort of

514
00:16:35,070 --> 00:16:37,390
having to reinvest down the track going on.

515
00:16:37,450 --> 00:16:39,870
You're like the buy once, cry once kind

516
00:16:39,870 --> 00:16:40,430
of mentality.

517
00:16:42,170 --> 00:16:44,610
And even with the mic port pro, if

518
00:16:44,610 --> 00:16:47,550
you develop a need for an extra workflow

519
00:16:47,550 --> 00:16:49,290
and if you want to be able to...

520
00:16:49,710 --> 00:16:51,050
Because I think the mic port pro, you

521
00:16:51,050 --> 00:16:53,070
can't plug monitors in, right?

522
00:16:54,030 --> 00:16:55,730
No, it would have to plug into the

523
00:16:55,730 --> 00:16:56,770
headphone jack, right?

524
00:16:58,270 --> 00:17:00,150
But the idea is that you can scale

525
00:17:00,150 --> 00:17:00,690
around it.

526
00:17:01,850 --> 00:17:03,329
Well, it's a good piece of kit to

527
00:17:03,329 --> 00:17:04,130
have to travel.

528
00:17:04,589 --> 00:17:06,650
And I think it's something that as your

529
00:17:06,650 --> 00:17:09,310
career grows, it could be your first setup,

530
00:17:09,310 --> 00:17:10,990
but then it becomes your travel setup.

531
00:17:11,310 --> 00:17:13,250
And that's why I try to think of

532
00:17:13,250 --> 00:17:16,250
gear that is going to be kind of

533
00:17:16,250 --> 00:17:19,069
long-term because you can imagine you might

534
00:17:19,069 --> 00:17:22,210
get a 41.6, but you might not

535
00:17:22,210 --> 00:17:24,569
want to travel with it because it's expensive.

536
00:17:25,450 --> 00:17:26,829
And if you have an NT1, you might

537
00:17:26,829 --> 00:17:29,570
say, hey, whatever, I'll travel with my NT1

538
00:17:29,570 --> 00:17:31,910
and here's my travel rig.

539
00:17:32,310 --> 00:17:34,930
And so, you know, something that works early

540
00:17:34,930 --> 00:17:36,630
on can work well into your career if

541
00:17:36,630 --> 00:17:39,530
it's the white gear, if it's the right

542
00:17:39,530 --> 00:17:39,910
gear.

543
00:17:41,030 --> 00:17:41,130
Exactly.

544
00:17:41,890 --> 00:17:43,730
Well, Matt, we haven't heard from you yet.

545
00:17:43,770 --> 00:17:45,210
If you had to start again, what would

546
00:17:45,210 --> 00:17:46,750
you be doing?

547
00:17:49,970 --> 00:17:50,490
Engineer...

548
00:17:50,490 --> 00:17:52,350
Yeah, marry an engineer.

549
00:17:53,370 --> 00:17:54,290
Yes, there you go.

550
00:17:55,730 --> 00:18:00,590
Yeah, I think AP's point of starting with

551
00:18:00,590 --> 00:18:03,150
a good mic and then having an interface

552
00:18:03,150 --> 00:18:07,410
that you can grow from, if need be,

553
00:18:07,410 --> 00:18:09,950
is a really good idea.

554
00:18:11,130 --> 00:18:14,090
As an alternative to the 416, I did

555
00:18:14,090 --> 00:18:16,310
have to get the NTG5 in a pinch

556
00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:19,770
when I was traveling, and it's a very

557
00:18:19,770 --> 00:18:20,310
fine mic.

558
00:18:21,010 --> 00:18:24,110
Yeah, I think it's a cheaper alternative to

559
00:18:24,110 --> 00:18:25,350
the 416.

560
00:18:26,390 --> 00:18:27,710
I mean, the only thing I would throw

561
00:18:27,710 --> 00:18:30,650
in there as a new offering would be

562
00:18:30,650 --> 00:18:31,610
the Apollo Solo.

563
00:18:32,610 --> 00:18:34,230
I've used that for travel in the past,

564
00:18:34,250 --> 00:18:38,230
but as a standalone interface in a studio,

565
00:18:38,230 --> 00:18:42,810
it's great, and you can really plug everything

566
00:18:42,810 --> 00:18:43,530
you need into there.

567
00:18:43,630 --> 00:18:45,730
If you at some point decided to add

568
00:18:45,730 --> 00:18:47,930
an extra microphone into your workflow, it does

569
00:18:47,930 --> 00:18:50,830
have that second input, or you can use

570
00:18:50,830 --> 00:18:53,690
a stereo modeling mic like we talked about

571
00:18:53,690 --> 00:18:54,750
in the previous episode.

572
00:18:55,190 --> 00:18:57,430
You can definitely grow into an Apollo Solo

573
00:18:57,430 --> 00:18:58,150
for a while.

574
00:18:58,830 --> 00:19:00,290
Is it a twin or a solo?

575
00:19:02,090 --> 00:19:02,990
What's the solo?

576
00:19:03,630 --> 00:19:05,070
The arrow became the solo.

577
00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:06,550
The arrow became the solo.

578
00:19:07,370 --> 00:19:09,650
So you just don't have the same number

579
00:19:09,650 --> 00:19:12,330
of physical outputs, I think is the main

580
00:19:12,330 --> 00:19:12,810
thing.

581
00:19:13,130 --> 00:19:14,730
I've got one sitting here in the booth.

582
00:19:14,990 --> 00:19:18,950
The twin has additional line outs, and so

583
00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:20,030
that has more routing.

584
00:19:20,170 --> 00:19:20,950
It has more cues.

585
00:19:21,970 --> 00:19:24,390
The twin also can run multiple virtual channels,

586
00:19:24,650 --> 00:19:27,230
like four pairs, and the Solo can only

587
00:19:27,230 --> 00:19:29,190
do one pair of virtual channels.

588
00:19:30,270 --> 00:19:31,610
The Solo still seems to give a good

589
00:19:31,610 --> 00:19:32,990
amount to grow into.

590
00:19:32,990 --> 00:19:35,110
Does the Solo have the full unison preamp

591
00:19:35,110 --> 00:19:37,030
and all that stuff?

592
00:19:37,210 --> 00:19:39,150
Yeah, and the other nice thing I like

593
00:19:39,150 --> 00:19:41,510
about the Solo is that it runs off

594
00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:45,170
Thunderbolt just from your computer, so it's powered

595
00:19:45,170 --> 00:19:47,610
from your computer, so you don't need that

596
00:19:47,610 --> 00:19:52,290
external power source, if that's a problem.

597
00:19:53,730 --> 00:19:55,450
The only thing about the Apollo gear is

598
00:19:55,450 --> 00:19:58,090
that there is that learning curve of the

599
00:19:58,090 --> 00:20:00,590
system within it, the console.

600
00:20:00,590 --> 00:20:02,550
Add to the cost the hiring of me

601
00:20:02,550 --> 00:20:03,570
to set it up for you.

602
00:20:03,710 --> 00:20:04,190
Exactly.

603
00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:10,890
Although I do have a forum on uadforum

604
00:20:10,890 --> 00:20:15,050
.com, there's one on there specifically for voiceover

605
00:20:15,050 --> 00:20:17,870
people, and I lay it out there.

606
00:20:18,010 --> 00:20:21,450
I literally have screenshots of my entire workflow

607
00:20:21,450 --> 00:20:23,330
of how to set it up, so I

608
00:20:23,330 --> 00:20:24,370
do provide it for free.

609
00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:25,010
Give it away, George.

610
00:20:25,790 --> 00:20:26,150
There you go.

611
00:20:26,210 --> 00:20:26,950
There's the tip, people.

612
00:20:26,950 --> 00:20:31,410
Let me ask you, Matt and AP, this

613
00:20:31,410 --> 00:20:32,050
same question.

614
00:20:33,410 --> 00:20:35,130
For someone who's just starting out then, if

615
00:20:35,130 --> 00:20:37,990
we're talking about rigs for someone who's starting

616
00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:41,630
out, connectivity, is that necessary in terms of

617
00:20:41,630 --> 00:20:43,690
a Zoom connection or Source Connect?

618
00:20:43,970 --> 00:20:44,930
Do we need Source Connect?

619
00:20:45,050 --> 00:20:46,430
Do we need the ability to at least

620
00:20:46,430 --> 00:20:47,290
connect to Zoom?

621
00:20:47,850 --> 00:20:49,030
If you're going to have a home studio,

622
00:20:49,350 --> 00:20:51,050
what would be your thoughts on that?

623
00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:54,130
I think it's more important than ever to

624
00:20:54,130 --> 00:20:58,650
at least have those functions spring-loaded, ready

625
00:20:58,650 --> 00:20:59,050
to go.

626
00:20:59,250 --> 00:21:01,310
Even if you haven't bought Source Connect or

627
00:21:01,310 --> 00:21:04,950
you haven't needed to use Zoom on a

628
00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:08,390
session, I think as part of your tech

629
00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:10,950
development and being a voice talent, you need

630
00:21:10,950 --> 00:21:14,070
to get these things under control because the

631
00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:17,170
day is going to come when an agent

632
00:21:17,170 --> 00:21:19,190
either comes with a direct booking or you've

633
00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:21,090
done an audition for something with Source Connect

634
00:21:21,090 --> 00:21:22,250
and then it's required.

635
00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:25,970
You just need to have that functionality ready

636
00:21:25,970 --> 00:21:26,410
to go.

637
00:21:27,130 --> 00:21:30,610
That's kind of relating to playing within a

638
00:21:30,610 --> 00:21:34,030
certain circle of work or for tiers, for

639
00:21:34,030 --> 00:21:34,910
want of a better word.

640
00:21:35,770 --> 00:21:38,530
But if you want to work with particular

641
00:21:38,530 --> 00:21:41,450
studios and particular buyers, then I think you

642
00:21:41,450 --> 00:21:42,850
just need to have that ready to go.

643
00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:43,990
Yeah, I agree.

644
00:21:45,330 --> 00:21:46,330
It's like being a...

645
00:21:46,330 --> 00:21:48,370
I used this analogy.

646
00:21:48,370 --> 00:21:52,110
If you are a qualified plumber and you

647
00:21:52,110 --> 00:21:54,010
turn up with a tool bag full of

648
00:21:54,010 --> 00:21:56,230
kids' toys, you're not going to get the

649
00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:56,450
work.

650
00:21:58,630 --> 00:22:00,870
So if you're in this game, you get

651
00:22:00,870 --> 00:22:01,390
the right gear.

652
00:22:01,570 --> 00:22:03,790
So you do need a good microphone, a

653
00:22:03,790 --> 00:22:06,510
good space, a good interface, the means to

654
00:22:06,510 --> 00:22:08,610
be able to record and edit and also

655
00:22:08,610 --> 00:22:10,050
the means to be able to do a

656
00:22:10,050 --> 00:22:11,550
session down the line, which means you've got

657
00:22:11,550 --> 00:22:12,270
to have Source Connect.

658
00:22:12,810 --> 00:22:14,890
And in fact, during COVID, that was mandatory.

659
00:22:14,890 --> 00:22:17,630
Every agent was saying, this is what you

660
00:22:17,630 --> 00:22:18,710
need to do to set up at home.

661
00:22:19,570 --> 00:22:20,710
But to be fair, that's at a certain

662
00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:21,150
tier.

663
00:22:21,530 --> 00:22:24,270
I mean, people doing rip and reads on

664
00:22:24,270 --> 00:22:28,010
Fiverr or some of these voiceover platforms, they're

665
00:22:28,010 --> 00:22:30,030
not going to be necessarily need Source Connect,

666
00:22:30,430 --> 00:22:32,490
but they're probably going to need to at

667
00:22:32,490 --> 00:22:33,890
least to be able to connect to Zoom

668
00:22:33,890 --> 00:22:35,490
or something similar like that, correct?

669
00:22:35,910 --> 00:22:36,250
Yeah, maybe.

670
00:22:36,830 --> 00:22:38,310
Usually those Fiverr people, they don't work with

671
00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:38,310
people.

672
00:22:38,330 --> 00:22:39,230
It depends if you're being asked to do

673
00:22:39,230 --> 00:22:41,370
live record sessions or if you're being asked

674
00:22:41,370 --> 00:22:43,450
to record stuff and turn in files, even

675
00:22:43,450 --> 00:22:45,750
if you're, you know, just in a meeting

676
00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:47,830
room and they say, hey, record and send

677
00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:49,290
us the files later and they're just using

678
00:22:49,290 --> 00:22:51,550
the meeting room as a way to give

679
00:22:51,550 --> 00:22:54,130
you general direction, then that might be all

680
00:22:54,130 --> 00:22:54,590
you need.

681
00:22:54,830 --> 00:22:56,610
I think the reality with Source Connect is

682
00:22:56,610 --> 00:23:00,130
that it really should, like, easily pay for

683
00:23:00,130 --> 00:23:02,050
itself, like, if you're...

684
00:23:02,050 --> 00:23:02,050
Yeah.

685
00:23:02,570 --> 00:23:04,170
Well, here's another one.

686
00:23:04,210 --> 00:23:05,290
I'm going to throw this out there.

687
00:23:05,690 --> 00:23:07,830
Some people who make podcasts aren't as lucky

688
00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:09,490
as us to have Robert on the show

689
00:23:09,490 --> 00:23:12,030
so that they get access to Source Connect

690
00:23:12,030 --> 00:23:13,850
and all these other amazing things we get

691
00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:14,710
the privilege of.

692
00:23:15,570 --> 00:23:17,270
What would you guys recommend?

693
00:23:17,730 --> 00:23:19,590
And Matt, if you've got a thought on

694
00:23:19,590 --> 00:23:20,890
this, please feel free to throw in as

695
00:23:20,890 --> 00:23:21,030
well.

696
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:22,710
What would you guys suggest in terms of

697
00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:24,210
recording interviews for podcasters?

698
00:23:24,830 --> 00:23:27,030
I just connected someone with buying the...

699
00:23:27,690 --> 00:23:30,650
Is it the Rode Caster Pro or the

700
00:23:30,650 --> 00:23:31,190
interface?

701
00:23:32,050 --> 00:23:32,150
Yep.

702
00:23:32,370 --> 00:23:32,570
Yeah, yeah.

703
00:23:32,730 --> 00:23:32,990
Yeah.

704
00:23:33,250 --> 00:23:34,770
I mean, bring the phone in through that,

705
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:35,810
through the Bluetooth connection.

706
00:23:36,250 --> 00:23:36,310
Yeah.

707
00:23:36,510 --> 00:23:37,270
Yeah, yeah.

708
00:23:37,530 --> 00:23:38,450
Yeah, that's not a bad one.

709
00:23:38,930 --> 00:23:38,930
Yeah.

710
00:23:38,930 --> 00:23:41,210
So, like, is this doing interviews over the

711
00:23:41,210 --> 00:23:42,630
Internet or interviews in person?

712
00:23:43,290 --> 00:23:45,450
Well, this is what I'm saying, interviews over

713
00:23:45,450 --> 00:23:45,890
the Internet.

714
00:23:46,130 --> 00:23:46,450
Yeah, yeah.

715
00:23:46,510 --> 00:23:48,290
If you had to do a remote interview,

716
00:23:48,350 --> 00:23:49,910
if you were a podcaster, George, what would

717
00:23:49,910 --> 00:23:50,690
your choice be?

718
00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:52,010
Well, I mean, if I had to do

719
00:23:52,010 --> 00:23:53,430
it all the time, I would love having

720
00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:56,270
a dedicated interface mixer-type device that does

721
00:23:56,270 --> 00:23:56,910
that really well.

722
00:23:57,250 --> 00:23:59,690
I mean, the Rode Caster Pro does that

723
00:23:59,690 --> 00:24:02,470
really well because it has two separate sound

724
00:24:02,470 --> 00:24:06,150
buses, one for record and one for communication.

725
00:24:06,150 --> 00:24:09,310
It makes it super, super easy to capture

726
00:24:09,310 --> 00:24:11,870
an interview, no matter what software that interview

727
00:24:11,870 --> 00:24:12,690
is going to be on.

728
00:24:12,990 --> 00:24:14,190
It could be on literally anything.

729
00:24:14,350 --> 00:24:15,170
It's agnostic.

730
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:19,190
Which is exactly the design philosophy behind the

731
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:20,390
Passport VO as well.

732
00:24:21,070 --> 00:24:21,210
Right?

733
00:24:21,250 --> 00:24:23,590
That's why we have two audio interfaces on

734
00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:23,870
board.

735
00:24:24,210 --> 00:24:27,150
Same concept, just in a much more compact,

736
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:30,790
less way simpler form factor, you know, but

737
00:24:30,790 --> 00:24:31,410
same idea.

738
00:24:32,410 --> 00:24:33,590
But yeah, that's what...

739
00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:34,570
That would be my first choice.

740
00:24:34,570 --> 00:24:36,210
If you want to keep it in the

741
00:24:36,210 --> 00:24:38,590
software domain, there are things like Nexus and

742
00:24:38,590 --> 00:24:40,710
Nexus Gateway where you can...

743
00:24:41,170 --> 00:24:41,790
It's free.

744
00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:44,230
And that is free to use to connect

745
00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:44,610
to others.

746
00:24:44,790 --> 00:24:47,070
The audio quality over Nexus, when set to

747
00:24:47,070 --> 00:24:49,870
HQ mode, is extremely high quality.

748
00:24:50,150 --> 00:24:52,170
So it will just make the experience of

749
00:24:52,170 --> 00:24:53,690
recording while the nicer.

750
00:24:54,030 --> 00:24:54,990
And you can see each other.

751
00:24:55,090 --> 00:24:56,430
And you can see each other as well.

752
00:24:56,730 --> 00:24:58,430
In the free version, you can't, but yep.

753
00:24:59,650 --> 00:25:02,330
What's the paid version with video cost per

754
00:25:02,330 --> 00:25:03,770
month, you know, off top of your head?

755
00:25:03,770 --> 00:25:04,470
11 bucks.

756
00:25:04,770 --> 00:25:05,670
It's 12 bucks.

757
00:25:06,110 --> 00:25:06,970
Yeah, it's really reasonable.

758
00:25:06,970 --> 00:25:07,630
Wow, a couple of coffees.

759
00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:08,210
Yeah, yeah.

760
00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:10,330
So what do you think the learning curve

761
00:25:10,330 --> 00:25:14,230
is like for people that are outside, you

762
00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:18,170
know, doing voiceover or engineering, Robert, for getting

763
00:25:18,170 --> 00:25:21,550
onto the source Nexus for, say, doing a

764
00:25:21,550 --> 00:25:23,610
podcast, like if someone is just fresh going

765
00:25:23,610 --> 00:25:24,670
into podcasting?

766
00:25:24,830 --> 00:25:27,130
I think where it's at right now is

767
00:25:27,130 --> 00:25:29,610
not where it's intended to be for podcasting.

768
00:25:29,850 --> 00:25:31,790
So I think it's going to get a

769
00:25:31,790 --> 00:25:33,750
lot easier, essentially, where you have a system

770
00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:36,910
where you can send invites out, everyone hooks

771
00:25:36,910 --> 00:25:39,270
up, you hit a button to record, instead

772
00:25:39,270 --> 00:25:41,810
of everyone hitting individual buttons and snapping their

773
00:25:41,810 --> 00:25:44,090
fingers, that process is automated.

774
00:25:45,010 --> 00:25:47,530
And then, you know, you'll probably get a

775
00:25:47,530 --> 00:25:50,170
certain amount of space that it just automatically

776
00:25:50,170 --> 00:25:51,270
uploads back to.

777
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:54,190
So it should be like a packaged thing

778
00:25:54,190 --> 00:25:56,350
to make it really easy to do podcasts

779
00:25:56,350 --> 00:25:59,450
where the recordings are made locally and uploaded,

780
00:26:00,090 --> 00:26:01,590
like what a lot of the other services

781
00:26:01,590 --> 00:26:01,790
do.

782
00:26:01,790 --> 00:26:05,970
But with the file transfer function wrapped into

783
00:26:05,970 --> 00:26:08,330
it, yeah, that makes it so much nicer

784
00:26:08,330 --> 00:26:11,070
for the guests and things, you know?

785
00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:13,150
You know, it's like with Source Connect free

786
00:26:13,150 --> 00:26:15,170
or Nexus free, you get the double end,

787
00:26:15,550 --> 00:26:16,350
you know, but you have to do it

788
00:26:16,350 --> 00:26:16,750
manually.

789
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:18,630
And then if you will have all that

790
00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:19,630
built in with the page.

791
00:26:19,730 --> 00:26:19,990
Yeah.

792
00:26:20,490 --> 00:26:21,670
I mean, by far the hardest thing for

793
00:26:21,670 --> 00:26:25,010
podcast remotes is dealing with the guests' audio

794
00:26:25,010 --> 00:26:28,550
and trying to get, you know, not horribly

795
00:26:28,550 --> 00:26:28,750
back.

796
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:31,190
You know, and that takes some preparation.

797
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:33,510
That takes some great communication.

798
00:26:33,770 --> 00:26:35,190
And that may, in the worst case, require

799
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:36,350
you to send them a mic.

800
00:26:37,470 --> 00:26:39,150
It takes knowing what you're listening for.

801
00:26:40,530 --> 00:26:42,370
Being able to have the wits to isolate

802
00:26:42,370 --> 00:26:44,230
that and listen to what they're really sending

803
00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:44,590
you.

804
00:26:44,970 --> 00:26:45,210
Yeah.

805
00:26:45,410 --> 00:26:46,450
I used to work on a podcast.

806
00:26:47,890 --> 00:26:49,490
It was called the Mojo Radio Show, and

807
00:26:49,490 --> 00:26:51,570
it was sort of anything and everything to

808
00:26:51,570 --> 00:26:55,230
do with personal creativity and all that sort

809
00:26:55,230 --> 00:26:55,570
of gear.

810
00:26:55,710 --> 00:26:57,950
But the whole point of it was it

811
00:26:57,950 --> 00:26:59,890
was supposed to be a high-quality thing,

812
00:26:59,890 --> 00:27:00,930
which obviously it was.

813
00:27:01,170 --> 00:27:03,010
But we actually got to the point in

814
00:27:03,010 --> 00:27:05,390
the show, and unfortunately it ended before we

815
00:27:05,390 --> 00:27:06,790
got there, but we were actually talking about

816
00:27:06,790 --> 00:27:06,950
that.

817
00:27:07,090 --> 00:27:09,070
We were actually talking about buying a couple

818
00:27:09,070 --> 00:27:11,250
of small road cases and throwing, you know,

819
00:27:11,550 --> 00:27:13,470
something like an AI one and a decent

820
00:27:13,470 --> 00:27:15,110
mic in there and shipping it off to

821
00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:16,290
people who had crap audio.

822
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:17,250
We've done that.

823
00:27:17,250 --> 00:27:18,610
I've done that as part of our studio.

824
00:27:18,830 --> 00:27:19,510
We had...

825
00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:20,030
Yeah.

826
00:27:20,350 --> 00:27:22,890
We did MacBook Airs with little...

827
00:27:23,650 --> 00:27:25,770
I think, you know, we just went really

828
00:27:25,770 --> 00:27:26,650
cheap to be honest.

829
00:27:26,650 --> 00:27:28,630
We did bearing-drew interfaces with bearing-drew

830
00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:29,050
mics.

831
00:27:29,670 --> 00:27:31,870
But that's all you need for podcasts, something

832
00:27:31,870 --> 00:27:33,110
that's half-decent quality.

833
00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:34,530
The thing you're the most worried about losing

834
00:27:34,530 --> 00:27:35,230
is the MacBook.

835
00:27:35,850 --> 00:27:36,850
You know, you're like...

836
00:27:36,850 --> 00:27:37,490
Yes, exactly.

837
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:38,350
Well, I don't think we were going to

838
00:27:38,350 --> 00:27:39,670
be that generous and buy Macs.

839
00:27:39,730 --> 00:27:40,470
I think it was just going to be

840
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:41,670
plug this into your computer.

841
00:27:42,050 --> 00:27:43,550
Well, the way we set it up was

842
00:27:43,550 --> 00:27:45,370
so that you like open the Mac up

843
00:27:45,370 --> 00:27:46,290
and all you have to do is put

844
00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:48,930
it on Wi-Fi and then like shows

845
00:27:48,930 --> 00:27:50,990
up on the team viewer type thing and

846
00:27:50,990 --> 00:27:54,390
you're in and then the last thing you're...

847
00:27:54,390 --> 00:27:56,790
We made all the cables so that...

848
00:27:56,790 --> 00:27:59,270
Imagine like a red sticker on the bearing

849
00:27:59,270 --> 00:28:01,350
-drew and a red sticker on the mic

850
00:28:01,350 --> 00:28:01,910
cable.

851
00:28:02,330 --> 00:28:04,290
Half the colours.

852
00:28:05,330 --> 00:28:06,170
Yeah, that's right.

853
00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:08,250
I think that's a great direction for the

854
00:28:08,250 --> 00:28:10,530
Pro Audio Suite podcast, maybe starting today.

855
00:28:11,730 --> 00:28:13,210
Sending out Macbooks.

856
00:28:13,810 --> 00:28:14,770
Yes, that's right.

857
00:28:15,310 --> 00:28:17,630
Yeah, or well, maybe we could send out

858
00:28:17,630 --> 00:28:18,390
Teslas as well.

859
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:19,010
Yeah, exactly.

860
00:28:19,950 --> 00:28:21,870
The ones with the stuff stuck inside.

861
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:24,270
Hello Elon, if you're listening, want to join

862
00:28:24,270 --> 00:28:24,550
in?

863
00:28:24,850 --> 00:28:25,090
Yeah, yeah.

864
00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:27,590
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

865
00:28:27,710 --> 00:28:29,870
God, imagine the guests we'd have lining up

866
00:28:29,870 --> 00:28:30,110
then.

867
00:28:32,190 --> 00:28:34,350
Yeah, they'd be begging to be on the

868
00:28:34,350 --> 00:28:34,570
show.

869
00:28:34,970 --> 00:28:38,110
So I reckon just as a conclusion, I

870
00:28:38,110 --> 00:28:41,330
guess, just my last two Bob's worth and

871
00:28:41,330 --> 00:28:42,530
also looking after our sponsor.

872
00:28:42,690 --> 00:28:45,490
But I always try and get things that

873
00:28:45,490 --> 00:28:46,470
are going to last a long time but

874
00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:47,650
can be used in different environments.

875
00:28:47,970 --> 00:28:48,830
So if you can take it on the

876
00:28:48,830 --> 00:28:50,330
road with you and have it set up

877
00:28:50,330 --> 00:28:51,970
at home, that's a win-win.

878
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:55,350
So I would probably wind it back a

879
00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:59,970
bit and go, Tribooth 416 and an SSL2.

880
00:29:00,770 --> 00:29:02,870
Tribooth, I would agree with you, that would

881
00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:04,350
be a great sound, but I wonder whether

882
00:29:04,350 --> 00:29:07,150
Tribooth and 416 together is blowing our budget

883
00:29:07,150 --> 00:29:07,670
a little bit.

884
00:29:07,670 --> 00:29:10,030
Is a Tribooth a beginner thing, or that

885
00:29:10,030 --> 00:29:11,970
sounds like someone who sees it.

886
00:29:12,130 --> 00:29:13,130
Well, it's not cheap.

887
00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:15,010
You know, this is the tricky thing about

888
00:29:15,010 --> 00:29:17,610
beginner stuff and budget.

889
00:29:17,610 --> 00:29:21,550
The two are mutually exclusive, honestly.

890
00:29:22,670 --> 00:29:24,850
Because I get people that enter the industry

891
00:29:24,850 --> 00:29:27,430
all the time that are executives from companies

892
00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:30,210
that have just retired or, you know, they're

893
00:29:30,210 --> 00:29:31,250
starting a new career.

894
00:29:31,790 --> 00:29:34,410
And yeah, they absolutely could buy the $250

895
00:29:34,410 --> 00:29:37,370
instant voiceover or podcasting kit and get to

896
00:29:37,370 --> 00:29:37,590
work.

897
00:29:38,390 --> 00:29:40,430
But they are in a position to buy

898
00:29:40,430 --> 00:29:42,470
better stuff and they do appreciate the better

899
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:42,790
stuff.

900
00:29:43,010 --> 00:29:45,130
And so they buy, on my recommendation, better

901
00:29:45,130 --> 00:29:45,490
stuff.

902
00:29:46,670 --> 00:29:48,650
So it really does depend on where you're

903
00:29:48,650 --> 00:29:49,110
coming from.

904
00:29:49,310 --> 00:29:51,170
Just understand, just know what your budget is.

905
00:29:51,530 --> 00:29:53,710
Just have a clear understanding of what it

906
00:29:53,710 --> 00:29:53,950
is.

907
00:29:54,210 --> 00:29:58,670
Don't overextend, don't overspend, but don't underspend.