R70xA Headphones – Worth the Hype? | The Pro Audio Suite
In this week’s video episode of The Pro Audio Suite, AP's got his ears on the new Audio-Technica R70xA headphones, and the team dives into a full-blown can convo. He shares his first impressions after two weeks of use — lightweight, comfy, and...
In this week’s video episode of The Pro Audio Suite, AP's got his ears on the new Audio-Technica R70xA headphones, and the team dives into a full-blown can convo.
He shares his first impressions after two weeks of use — lightweight, comfy, and eerily similar in tone to the Hi-X65s. But how do they really stack up against other studio staples like the KRKs, Austrian Audio Hi-X55s and 65s, Sennheiser HD280s, and even some vintage Audio-Technica ATH2s?
From comfort and design quirks (hello magnetic straps and mystery cables) to 470-ohm impedance madness, gear abuse stories, and which cans sound great but feel like a head clamp, this is one juicy headphone shootout.
Bonus: George nerds out on impedance math, Robert gets officially certified as “professional grade,” and an AKG suffers a tragic fate at VO Atlanta...R70xA Headphones – Worth the Hype?
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Now, talking about hearing things, apart from the
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normal things that I hear that don't actually
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exist.
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I also got sent to review a pair
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of these.
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It's the new Audio Technica R70XA headphones.
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Oh, that's cool.
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Jelly.
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I'm jelly.
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I've been using these for about two weeks,
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I think.
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There they are.
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It's an open back headphone.
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It's very, very light, isn't it?
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Isn't it a very light weight?
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Like it's, what they say, 199 grams.
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Something that you could probably wear for long
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periods of time comfortably.
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A very long time.
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Very comfortable.
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And it's funny because they actually sound not
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dissimilar to the Hi-X65s.
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Very similar.
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So they're both coming for a very clear,
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open sound.
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They're both open back, right?
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Yeah.
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But it's also the frequency is very similar.
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Well, you say you can wear them for
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a long time.
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I've got a pair of KRKs.
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They look round to me, is that right?
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Yeah, they are.
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They're round.
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I've got a pair of KRKs that are
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round and I find them really uncomfortable for
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long periods of time because the Austrian audios
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have like the oblong shape.
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I find the round really uncomfortable.
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Are they bigger though?
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Like some of them are bigger and some
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of them are smaller.
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But I agree.
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In fact, I saw some dude reviewing them
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and made that comment.
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I don't know why they're still persisting with
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round cups as opposed to ones that sit
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around your ear.
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I guarantee they're more comfortable than these audio
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-tech headphones.
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That looks more like a head clamp.
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It's just a very thin, thin pad that
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presses on your ears.
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Oh, I can see that.
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It's like a torture chamber or something.
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It really evolved over the last 40, 50
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years.
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These are from like 1975, these suckers.
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Oh, really?
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They sound amazing though.
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They're called the ATH2s.
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Great sound, like super flat and clean, but
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we can't wear them.
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So these I'm aware of these.
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I tried on the RX, the R70Xs, and
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I was really impressed with them, but they
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changed the headband design.
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I thought the headband on the old one
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was really cool because it had two sort
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of like hands or fingers and they would
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rest on your head like a suspension.
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I thought they were super comfortable, but there
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must have been something about that design.
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They removed it.
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It must have been too complicated to build.
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Maybe they broke.
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Maybe they were fragile.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, I don't know either, but I saw
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those online when I was looking around, looking
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at what people had to say about these
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just for my reference.
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But I find them really comfortable and it's
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really simple.
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It's just a magnet on the strap so
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you can adjust it.
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Yeah, the strap itself is hard to show
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this really, but it actually magnetizes there so
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you can thread it through and then it's
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kind of really cool.
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It is.
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I mean, I have made the comment before
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that I probably wouldn't throw these in a
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bag and take them with me.
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It is interesting though, when you look back
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to these being the grandfather of those, great
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grandfather, they're keeping that same kind of design
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ethos many, many, many years later.
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Just a big metal spring band with this
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part in the middle, right?
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A strap over your head and a speaker
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on each ear, that's pretty revolutionary for headphones,
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isn't it?
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I mean, exactly.
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They're still doing it all these years later.
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Anyway, I think these are really, really cool.
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I mean, they're not cheap.
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The sort of price point is pretty close
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to the Hike 65s, maybe 20, 30 bucks
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cheaper.
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But there are just a few details about
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them.
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They say the frequency is 5 to 40
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,000 hertz, 470 ohms.
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That's really high.
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That's pretty high.
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Seems a lot.
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Oh, have you plugged them into the Passport
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VO yet?
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No.
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You really should.
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I would love to hear how they sound
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on the Passport.
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Because the Passport has one hell of a
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headphone amp.
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It does.
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I mean, it is legitimately a good headphone
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amp.
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It's got a great sounding converter and a
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very good amount of output, like a very
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hot output.
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I bet it could drive those cans pretty
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well.
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Because that's really, the 470 ohms, you need
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something really seriously, a serious amp to drive
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those cans.
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The Passport could probably actually drive a pair
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of cans.
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Soup cans.
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But I've looked at the difference between the
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Hike 65s and the Hike 65s, their impedance
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is 25 ohms.
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Is that right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, low.
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That's actually very low impedance.
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It is very low, isn't it?
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They make a good microphone.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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It's so interesting that there are so many
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philosophies on what should be the right impedance
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for a pair of headphones.
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I always remember headphones that were for pro
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studio use being high impedance for a very
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specific reason, that they could hook 20, 30,
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40 pairs to one amp and it wouldn't
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overload the amp.
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It wouldn't parallel out, yeah.
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It wouldn't divide a bunch of times, yeah.
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Right.
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Like if you put 600, if you have
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a 600 ohm headphone and you have 40
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of them, what's the math on that?
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What load will it put on the amp?
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600 divided by 40, I believe.
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Is that what it works out to be?
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I think so.
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Because when you had two 8 ohm speakers
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in parallel, you're making your amp drive 4
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ohms.
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Right.
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Right, right.
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So if you had 40 pairs at 600
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ohms, you have a 15 ohm load on
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your amp.
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So you're still quite in the safety zone
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for most professional grade power amps can go
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down to 4 ohms.
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4 ohms or so, yeah.
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But if you had, what, 20 pairs of
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Sonys that are like 20 something ohm, right?
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Yeah, then you're down to 1 ohm.
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And that's a dangerous load.
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That's like infinity, right?
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It's like divided by zero.
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Which amps do not like.
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They will not tolerate that for very long.
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They will get very hot.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Well, another thing with a super low ohm
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load impedance headphone with certain amps is what
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they will do is they'll really expose the
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flaws, the self noise of the amp a
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lot sooner.
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So, like I have a pair of in
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-ear monitors that are extremely low impedance, right?
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And you plug them into just about any
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amp and you hear hiss.
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You just hear ssss.
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Oh, really?
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Like all the time.
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And it becomes annoying to use because you
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hear all that noise.
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And like if I plug them into an
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iPhone with one of those headphone adapters, you
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have to have it on like one click
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or two clicks up from off for a
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comfortable volume.
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Right, because it's like driving nothing.
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Yeah.
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It's so low, it's just like any little
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tiny voltage and you hear it.
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It's the weirdest thing.
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So, there's something in the philosophy of design
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where higher impedance headphones provide, it's easier to,
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I don't know, they're more accurate in some
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way.
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And I don't remember what the reason being
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is.
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But sorry for this rat hole about ohms.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, it's interesting though because I looked at
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that and I don't understand all that stuff.
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I think there's also something about the dampening
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that they do.
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And like the lower the ohms and like
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the damping factor is less.
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So, you get more distortions in the low
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end, I think.
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Oh, in the low end, yes.
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I think I've heard something about that.
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Or it ends up reflecting back into the
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amplifier like pushing.
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Do those have, I would imagine, but do
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they have removable cable?
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They do.
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And this is the really weird thing.
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It's got the two cables.
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Yeah, that's another hi-fi audiophile thing.
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Equal length.
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Yeah, but the weird thing is they actually,
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well, that's true.
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But they don't mark on the cable which
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one is left and which one is right.
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And I thought that was really strange.
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But from what I found out since is
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that the cable actually works it up for
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itself.
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I don't know how that happens.
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How the fuck does it do that?
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I have no idea.
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You lost me there.
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That's like, you know, Ethernet cables that will
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self-cross over on the input.
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I don't know how it does that.
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Really?
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Yeah, it's really strange because I was looking
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at it going, well, how would I know
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which one is left and which one is
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right?
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I mean, I know the cups are marked
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left and right.
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Yeah.
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But it's like, well, how come the cable
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is not marked?
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That's really odd to me.
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And it does it for itself.
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It does it inside the cable.
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It recognizes, the cable recognizes left and right.
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Would there be a little chip in there
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or something, Robert?
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Would that make sense?
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I have no idea.
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Or is that extravagant for a pair of
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headphones to have a little chip in there
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just to do that?
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I mean, I'm reading it right here on
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Sonar.
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I don't know.
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Sonar Works website says the Audio Technica ATH
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-R70X headphones, the X's too, the prior version
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of these, right?
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Yeah.
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Feature a unique cable design that automatically assigns
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the correct audio channel regardless of how it
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is connected.
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Each earcup has a 2.5 millimeter jack
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that accepts the cable's identical plugs, ensuring that
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the left and right channels are properly oriented,
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no matter which plug is inserted into which
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earcup.
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I don't even understand why they would have
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spent the engineering dollars on this.
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Put this another way, right?
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Say you're a chief executive at Audio Technica
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and you're looking at this and you're going,
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how much money did we spend on R
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&D to figure out how to do that
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when all we had to do was put
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a red and a black and go, yeah,
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just line the colors up.
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I'm sure someone at upper management at Audio
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Technica must be going, whose idea was this,
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please?
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Well, also, is it very, very obvious as
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to which is left and right on the
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headband that cups themselves?
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No, that's because if you look at the
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Austrian audio headphones, which I have.
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Does it have a big L and R
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on the inside of the cup?
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You've got the big L and R.
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Yeah.
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Which is really cool.
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I mean, I really like that.
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So there's no mistake.
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But this one, because it's, and that's the
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other thing normally left is where the cable
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comes out.
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But when you've got two cables and if
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you're in a dark booth like mine, you
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can barely see it.
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I don't know whether you can actually see
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that.
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That is so odd to me.
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It's tiny.
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Again, that's what makes it seem like an
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audiophile product than a professional product.
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Because professional products, they don't care how it
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looks so much.
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It's really more about function.
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That makes me a professional too.
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Exactly.
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You're definitely professional grade, Robert.
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That's right.
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Robert Marshall, professional grade.
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Doesn't matter how it looks.
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Oh, that's funny.
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Well, that's pretty sweet, man.
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So at the end of the day, they're
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priced commensurately with a lot of the other
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stuff that's of a similar.
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So what are those?
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Like 400 bucks?
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It was a 350 to 400 range.
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Yeah.
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In there somewhere.
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Yeah.
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US dollars.
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Yeah.
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Look, I've, you know, I've used them for
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two weeks.
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I said, and I really, really liked them.
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And because they're so light, you can wear
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them all day.
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It doesn't feel like you're wearing anything.
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And they're not that, you know, they're not
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that sort of like a head clamp, like
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the ones you were showing before.
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On the other end of the spectrum, I
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was just at VO Atlanta.
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We can talk about that later, but they
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had some, there are a few pairs of
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these Sennheiser HD 280 headphones, total head clamp
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and super warm and bass heavy.
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Like weirdly so.
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Like it kept making me think that the
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microphone had something wrong with it or it
407
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was crazy.
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And then I'd listen to it back on
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my headphones after I recorded it.
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And I was like, oh, okay.
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That's what it sounds like.
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Weirdest thing.
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Cause those are like pro headphones.
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They have the word pro in the name
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HD 280 pro.
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I really don't understand what those headphones are
417
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for, who they're for.
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You know, those cans, Robert, you worn those.
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HD 280s.
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Yeah.
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The Sennheiser, like most of the Sennheiser's are
422
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actually pretty high end.
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I think I have a pair.
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Well, high end.
425
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Yeah.
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But I don't get the tuning on them
427
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at all.
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Very, very.
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Usually the Sennheiser open.
430
00:13:43,830 --> 00:13:44,990
Are those the open back ones?
431
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No, they're sealed.
432
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They're sealed.
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Oh yeah.
434
00:13:48,030 --> 00:13:48,510
Maybe I don't.
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They're very sealed.
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I mean, they really, I think they're for
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tracking.
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I think that's what they were made for
439
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is they're made to be a studio for
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tracking, you know, like for the drummer and
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for the musicians.
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But I'll tell you, I've never seen any
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in a pair.
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00:14:03,070 --> 00:14:04,850
I've never seen a pair of those ever
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in a studio.
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00:14:05,990 --> 00:14:07,110
I don't know about you.
447
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I've seen those.
448
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Those, those aren't the good, the really good.
449
00:14:11,150 --> 00:14:12,450
I don't think they're as good as like,
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those are like beat them up studio headphones.
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Not the, not the ones that have like
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the, yeah.
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They're still not cheap though.
454
00:14:19,210 --> 00:14:20,410
There's still a hundred dollar headphones.
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They're not like.
456
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Yeah.
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But I, I don't know them very well,
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but I think I'd probably rather have a
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pair of a Sony.
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I can tell you I'm not a fan,
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not a fan at all.
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Somebody else had a pair of AKG.
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Oh, somebody else.
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00:14:32,550 --> 00:14:32,910
Vincent.
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Vincent.
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Yeah.
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A pair of AKG three 71s.
468
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Yeah.
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And those.
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He likes those.
471
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Yeah.
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He likes a real nice headphones.
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But, but you know, right there at the
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show, the stupid, he's just like all day
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long on and off, on and off.
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And next thing, you know, right there, Sarah
477
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line crack.
478
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Yeah.
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Hairline crack.
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And next thing you know, it's like, it's
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not quite on as well.
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And then you're like, what's wrong.
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And he looks at, he's like, there's a
484
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fucking hairline crack here.
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Oh, AKG snapped during the event.
486
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During the event from just, yeah.
487
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Cause he's like, I got in the airplane
488
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with them and they were good.
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And then somewhere during the day, cause just
490
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like on and off and enough of that.
491
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Yeah.
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And you know, that should be, that's just
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crap.
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And then you look at the way those
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AKGs were made and there's nothing, it's all
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one fucking piece.
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You can't service it.
498
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And, and then he goes to the AKG
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booth and they gave him a pair to
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borrow.
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And, um, well he like AKG did not
502
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take care of him, but he took care
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of himself and I won't tell you how
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he did it.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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I think I know how he did it.
508
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I think I know too.
509
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A little exchange.
510
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Um, yeah.
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Back to these though.
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I, you know, once again, I like your
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story, the AKGs, I wouldn't be traveling with
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these, but they are very nice to have
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in the booth.
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Yeah.
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They're what I would call affordable audiophile grade
518
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headphones.
519
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Yeah.
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And when you compare them to the, the
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build of, you know, like the Austrian audios,
522
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I mean, these things are seriously well built.
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Those are heavier.
524
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Yeah.
525
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You know, they're really good.
526
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The Austrian audios look and feel more pro
527
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grade simply due to the manufacturing of the
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parts, how it's built, the, the weight of
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them.
530
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They feel like they're just, that they're going
531
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to stand hanging being manhandled and sort of
532
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abused in a studio for years and years.
533
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And the good thing about the Austrian audios,
534
00:16:22,970 --> 00:16:24,250
you can, you know, they all fold up
535
00:16:24,250 --> 00:16:24,590
and everything.
536
00:16:24,590 --> 00:16:27,210
So if you're traveling, you know, I mean,
537
00:16:27,290 --> 00:16:28,230
you've got them all folded up.
538
00:16:28,390 --> 00:16:28,490
Yeah.
539
00:16:28,490 --> 00:16:30,810
The ATs do not fold whatsoever, huh?
540
00:16:30,970 --> 00:16:31,830
No, they don't.
541
00:16:31,970 --> 00:16:34,730
They move barely at all.
542
00:16:35,110 --> 00:16:35,290
Yeah.
543
00:16:35,510 --> 00:16:37,210
Again, audiophile.
544
00:16:37,970 --> 00:16:40,390
They don't travel with them, you know, they're
545
00:16:40,390 --> 00:16:42,070
sitting at home and then you're listening room.
546
00:16:42,470 --> 00:16:42,710
Yeah.
547
00:16:43,130 --> 00:16:44,750
I'll tell you how well the Austrian audios
548
00:16:44,750 --> 00:16:45,490
are built.
549
00:16:45,830 --> 00:16:47,890
They can withstand my Toby, my six-year
550
00:16:47,890 --> 00:16:51,270
-old who's recently discovered dad's MIDI keyboard and
551
00:16:51,270 --> 00:16:52,890
a, and a sampler in Pro Tools.
552
00:16:52,890 --> 00:16:54,570
And he's been mucking around in here and
553
00:16:54,570 --> 00:16:56,790
the way he treats my headphones because I
554
00:16:56,790 --> 00:16:58,410
can't let him muck around with the speakers
555
00:16:58,410 --> 00:16:58,650
on.
556
00:16:58,750 --> 00:16:59,990
So I put the headphones on him in
557
00:16:59,990 --> 00:17:00,910
the way he treats them.
558
00:17:01,410 --> 00:17:03,390
It's a, it's pretty rough and they survive.
559
00:17:03,609 --> 00:17:04,869
So yeah, pretty well built.
560
00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:08,550
Which audio, which AT, uh, which ones do
561
00:17:08,550 --> 00:17:09,310
you have Robbo?
562
00:17:09,490 --> 00:17:11,990
I'm on the 50, the 50 or me.
563
00:17:12,109 --> 00:17:12,530
No, no, no.
564
00:17:12,630 --> 00:17:13,109
The Austrian.
565
00:17:14,230 --> 00:17:14,609
Yeah.
566
00:17:14,790 --> 00:17:14,910
Yeah.
567
00:17:14,930 --> 00:17:16,050
Did I say audio technique?
568
00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:16,589
I thought so.
569
00:17:16,690 --> 00:17:16,790
Yeah.
570
00:17:17,230 --> 00:17:18,089
Sorry if I did.
571
00:17:18,270 --> 00:17:20,910
You're on the 55s right now.
572
00:17:20,910 --> 00:17:21,150
Yeah.
573
00:17:21,150 --> 00:17:22,089
I'm on the 55s.
574
00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:22,710
That's what, that's what.
575
00:17:22,710 --> 00:17:24,130
And the ones that you had, uh, Andrew
576
00:17:24,130 --> 00:17:25,630
just now were the 65s?
577
00:17:26,030 --> 00:17:26,310
65s.
578
00:17:26,310 --> 00:17:26,990
He's on the 65s.
579
00:17:26,990 --> 00:17:28,850
The 55s in the booth and 65s out
580
00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:28,950
there.
581
00:17:28,950 --> 00:17:30,330
But are the 65s open back?
582
00:17:30,590 --> 00:17:30,810
Yeah.
583
00:17:31,410 --> 00:17:31,650
Yeah.
584
00:17:31,770 --> 00:17:33,590
They don't look, they don't look open back.
585
00:17:33,890 --> 00:17:36,030
No, they've only got a little sort of
586
00:17:36,030 --> 00:17:37,030
the grate on them.
587
00:17:37,110 --> 00:17:39,030
The, the grill on them is really fine.
588
00:17:39,430 --> 00:17:39,570
Yeah.
589
00:17:39,870 --> 00:17:41,030
Oh, I see.
590
00:17:41,130 --> 00:17:41,450
I see.
591
00:17:42,110 --> 00:17:42,550
That's right.
592
00:17:42,550 --> 00:17:43,590
They looked closed.
593
00:17:43,670 --> 00:17:44,910
They look closed on video.
594
00:17:45,030 --> 00:17:45,190
Yeah.
595
00:17:45,210 --> 00:17:46,290
But it's really fine.
596
00:17:46,430 --> 00:17:47,450
It's not much like a grill.
597
00:17:47,690 --> 00:17:47,990
I see it.
598
00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:48,830
I see the driver.
599
00:17:49,070 --> 00:17:49,290
Yeah.
600
00:17:49,950 --> 00:17:50,350
Wow.
601
00:17:50,490 --> 00:17:50,890
That's cool.
602
00:17:50,890 --> 00:17:52,510
I can tell you that, that my Sony
603
00:17:52,510 --> 00:17:56,610
V700s did not survive Sage dropping them on
604
00:17:56,610 --> 00:17:56,950
the floor.
605
00:17:57,610 --> 00:17:57,890
Yeah.
606
00:17:58,010 --> 00:17:58,190
Oh, really?
607
00:17:58,190 --> 00:17:59,910
And I, I still have all the parts
608
00:17:59,910 --> 00:18:01,290
to fix them and I've not gotten around
609
00:18:01,290 --> 00:18:02,070
to soldering it up.
610
00:18:02,090 --> 00:18:04,690
But at least you could, like, cause it's
611
00:18:04,690 --> 00:18:06,970
like the, the pivot angle thing and like
612
00:18:06,970 --> 00:18:08,330
little plastic shit broke.
613
00:18:08,830 --> 00:18:10,130
That's the thing about all these headphones.
614
00:18:10,270 --> 00:18:11,630
Like, quit making them out of plastic.
615
00:18:12,190 --> 00:18:13,250
That'll just solve all.
616
00:18:13,250 --> 00:18:14,010
I know, right?
617
00:18:14,050 --> 00:18:16,070
I don't think anything's made better than these
618
00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:16,770
buyers, man.
619
00:18:16,770 --> 00:18:19,090
Well, maybe the Austrian.
620
00:18:19,150 --> 00:18:19,670
But that's metal.
621
00:18:19,950 --> 00:18:21,910
That's a metal, metal.
622
00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:22,230
Yeah.
623
00:18:22,490 --> 00:18:22,630
Yeah.
624
00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:23,490
That's a metal yolk.
625
00:18:24,130 --> 00:18:24,550
Yep.
626
00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:25,510
It's strong.
627
00:18:25,630 --> 00:18:28,210
It's tough as nails, but not foldable.
628
00:18:28,830 --> 00:18:29,190
Yeah.
629
00:18:29,230 --> 00:18:31,110
If there's one thing that gets used and
630
00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:32,250
abused in a studio.
631
00:18:32,990 --> 00:18:34,630
They've got the metal yolk as well.
632
00:18:36,150 --> 00:18:36,590
Hmm.
633
00:18:36,810 --> 00:18:37,490
That's good.
634
00:18:37,850 --> 00:18:38,330
I like that.
635
00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:39,090
They have a metal yolk.
636
00:18:39,250 --> 00:18:40,610
It's all steel metal.
637
00:18:41,130 --> 00:18:41,410
Yeah.
638
00:18:41,610 --> 00:18:44,270
Lots of metal and aluminum and very lightweight
639
00:18:44,270 --> 00:18:44,930
materials.
640
00:18:44,930 --> 00:18:46,830
Seems very well made.
641
00:18:47,170 --> 00:18:47,310
Yeah.
642
00:18:47,530 --> 00:18:48,330
For something that's light.
643
00:18:49,230 --> 00:18:50,730
If there's one thing that gets used and
644
00:18:50,730 --> 00:18:52,210
abused in a studio, it's headphones.
645
00:18:52,770 --> 00:18:53,130
Seriously.
646
00:18:53,410 --> 00:18:53,890
Oh, absolutely.
647
00:18:54,030 --> 00:18:55,490
They just get smashed around.
648
00:18:55,770 --> 00:18:56,070
You know what?
649
00:18:56,150 --> 00:18:58,490
You know, my silly analogy is headphones are
650
00:18:58,490 --> 00:18:59,710
the, of the studio.
651
00:18:59,890 --> 00:19:02,010
Headphones are the shoes of the studio.
652
00:19:02,710 --> 00:19:03,090
Right?
653
00:19:03,550 --> 00:19:04,850
They fit everybody differently.
654
00:19:05,030 --> 00:19:06,690
Everybody has an opinion on what they like
655
00:19:06,690 --> 00:19:07,830
or what fits better.
656
00:19:08,250 --> 00:19:11,370
You know, they're insanely wide range of prices
657
00:19:11,370 --> 00:19:13,230
from $30 to thousands.
658
00:19:13,370 --> 00:19:13,590
Right?
659
00:19:14,050 --> 00:19:15,170
And they wear out.
660
00:19:16,010 --> 00:19:17,070
So, they're shoes.
661
00:19:17,310 --> 00:19:18,450
Well, they don't really wear out.
662
00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:19,710
You can't have enough shoes.
663
00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:21,110
You can always get more shoes.
664
00:19:21,150 --> 00:19:22,010
You can always get more headphones.
665
00:19:22,350 --> 00:19:23,790
The only thing that should wear out is
666
00:19:23,790 --> 00:19:24,470
the earmuffs.
667
00:19:25,970 --> 00:19:27,290
And that's really it.
668
00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:30,530
Everything else, they break because of crap designs.
669
00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:32,710
And designs that you can't.
670
00:19:32,890 --> 00:19:36,630
Like, that's why those Fostex RP20s, like, you
671
00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:38,170
could fix every piece of them.
672
00:19:38,550 --> 00:19:39,750
Those are definitely used.
673
00:19:40,030 --> 00:19:41,690
Look how gross the ear pads are.
674
00:19:41,690 --> 00:19:43,310
They're brown and gray.
675
00:19:44,330 --> 00:19:44,570
It's funny.
676
00:19:44,890 --> 00:19:46,430
But you can replace that.
677
00:19:46,570 --> 00:19:46,830
I was talking.
678
00:19:47,930 --> 00:19:50,030
Talking about, you know, things getting abused in
679
00:19:50,030 --> 00:19:50,390
studios.
680
00:19:50,530 --> 00:19:52,390
I was talking to one of the Beatles
681
00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:54,050
engineers, a guy called Richard Lush.
682
00:19:55,250 --> 00:19:57,010
And he was talking about the way they
683
00:19:57,010 --> 00:19:58,290
used to handle all the microphones.
684
00:19:59,070 --> 00:19:59,770
Oh, man.
685
00:19:59,990 --> 00:20:00,370
He's sitting there.
686
00:20:00,690 --> 00:20:01,910
He's like, oh, can you pass me the
687
00:20:01,910 --> 00:20:02,330
U47?
688
00:20:02,610 --> 00:20:03,490
Yeah, yeah, catch.
689
00:20:04,110 --> 00:20:05,750
They'd be throwing them across the studio and
690
00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:05,970
stuff.
691
00:20:06,110 --> 00:20:06,210
Yeah.
692
00:20:06,550 --> 00:20:07,510
Oh, shit.
693
00:20:08,010 --> 00:20:08,410
Jesus.
694
00:20:10,050 --> 00:20:11,810
He was saying, he said, I can't believe
695
00:20:11,810 --> 00:20:12,570
we used to do that.
696
00:20:13,130 --> 00:20:13,430
But anyway.
697
00:20:13,710 --> 00:20:14,450
You really can't.
698
00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:16,530
I thought they treated a lot of stuff
699
00:20:16,530 --> 00:20:17,410
super special.
700
00:20:17,610 --> 00:20:18,910
Like, when they wanted to use the Fairchild,
701
00:20:19,050 --> 00:20:20,290
they'd roll it in on a cart.
702
00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:21,390
And it was like a big deal if
703
00:20:21,390 --> 00:20:22,190
they wanted to use the Fairchild.
704
00:20:22,190 --> 00:20:23,230
Well, you had all the technicians and the
705
00:20:23,230 --> 00:20:23,650
dust coats.
706
00:20:23,790 --> 00:20:24,990
They used to have the gray dust coats.
707
00:20:25,130 --> 00:20:26,690
The guys used to come in and set
708
00:20:26,690 --> 00:20:27,990
the gear up as soon as they were
709
00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:28,550
out of the picture.
710
00:20:29,150 --> 00:20:31,150
It was just the engineers and the talent.
711
00:20:31,150 --> 00:20:31,770
Oh, I see.
712
00:20:31,950 --> 00:20:34,430
There's the technicians and there's the engineers.
713
00:20:35,210 --> 00:20:35,710
Yeah, yeah.
714
00:20:35,830 --> 00:20:36,350
Oh, my God.
715
00:20:36,810 --> 00:20:37,070
Yeah.
716
00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:37,870
Funny.
717
00:20:38,450 --> 00:20:39,990
Well, I can't wait to get my pair.
718
00:20:40,110 --> 00:20:42,170
Audio Technica, I'll send you my address.
719
00:20:43,810 --> 00:20:45,370
I'll give you my opinion if you send
720
00:20:45,370 --> 00:20:45,750
me a pair.
721
00:20:45,770 --> 00:20:46,310
That's great.
722
00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:47,450
We're in love.
723
00:20:48,070 --> 00:20:48,730
I love you.
724
00:20:49,530 --> 00:20:50,630
Well, that was fun.
725
00:20:50,690 --> 00:20:51,090
Is it over?
726
00:20:52,330 --> 00:20:53,930
The Pro Audio Suite.
727
00:20:53,970 --> 00:20:55,190
With thanks to Tribus.
728
00:20:55,330 --> 00:20:56,570
And Austrian Audio.
729
00:20:56,970 --> 00:20:58,290
Recorded using Source Connect.
730
00:20:58,670 --> 00:21:00,230
Edited by Andrew Peters.
731
00:21:00,430 --> 00:21:02,450
And mixed by Voodoo Radio Imaging.
732
00:21:02,530 --> 00:21:04,670
With tech support from George the Tech Whittam.
733
00:21:04,670 --> 00:21:06,790
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736
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