Black Friday Bonanza: Gear Deals & Demo Gold!

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(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) Y'all ready to be history?

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Get started.

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Welcome.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Hello everyone.

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To the Pro Audio Suite.

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These guys are professional, they're motivated.

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And Austrian Audio, making passion heard.

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Introducing Robert Marshall from Source Elements and Someone

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Audio Post, Chicago.

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Darren Robert Robertson from Voodoo Radio Imaging, Sydney.

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Tech to the VO Stars.

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George the Tech Whittam from LA.

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And me, Andrew Peters, voiceover talent and home

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studio guy.

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Line up, man.

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Here we go.

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And welcome to another Pro Audio Suite.

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Thanks to Tribush.

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get 200 US dollars off your Tribush.

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And Austrian Audio, making passion heard.

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Now of course, it is officially Black Friday.

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And there's a few little deals going around

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the table in our little community.

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Who wants to kick off?

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George or Robert or Robbo?

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I'm kicking it.

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Keep going, George.

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George.

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It's George.

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So we, you know, every year we like

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to offer some big discount, as we tend

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to do at this time of year.

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And so my idea this go around is

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we're going to offer our memberships, which you

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guys may not know we have.

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But we do have subscription memberships.

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And what we're going to do is if

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you sign up before the end of the

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day on Monday, that's the end of Cyber

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Monday, and you use the coupon code GTT50OFFCM24

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at checkout, you can probably figure out what

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that means, right?

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50OFFCYBERMONDAY24.

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At checkout, you're going to get 50%

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off your entire year's membership.

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So whether you pay by the month or

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by the year, you're going to get 50

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% off the membership.

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And what does that entail exactly, right?

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Because what the heck is a membership?

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Well, we've decided to offer these memberships so

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we can include a whole slate of services

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that are included with each membership.

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And there's a few tiers available, starting with

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blue steel, bronze, silver, and gold.

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And so if you come in on the

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blue steel level, it's normally $50 a month

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and $500 a year.

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You basically get two months free if you

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opt for an annual payment up front and

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save a little bit of money if you

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have the extra cash to spend.

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But you'll also still get 50% off

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of that.

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So you can get an entire year's worth

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of a blue steel membership for $250.

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And that includes my virtual George front of

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the line priority service.

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So if you do purchase a service, you're

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going to get ahead of the line of

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others who are waiting for my response.

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Webinar library access, you can get up to

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12 videos per year from our video library.

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You'll be able to come to our members

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Zoom with me twice a month.

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Answers access, where you can just ask questions

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anytime online, two per month.

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And sound checks, two per year.

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That's all included on the blue steel.

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Just the webinar library alone is worth a

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lot.

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I have one question on that, though.

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If I watch a video, have I got

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to rewind it before I return it?

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Yes, you have to.

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Please be kind, rewind.

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That's where all the old people are.

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We'll pull it for you with what all

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the other memberships include, but you can check

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it out at georgev.tech slash member sign

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up.

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And that's where the pages and you'll see

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the promotion and a list of all the

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things you can get part of that.

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Now, also, the memberships are limited to a

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number of certain number of people because we

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want to make sure that the membership club

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has enough attention from me specifically.

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Yeah.

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So there's only 50 of the blue steel,

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20 bronze, 10 silver and five gold total

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that we're going to offer.

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And most of the bronze memberships have been

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bought already.

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There's only four of me.

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There's only so much George to go around.

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There's so much to go around.

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It goes blue, bronze, silver, gold.

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So what are the differences?

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Like if you just give like a sentence

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or two about each level.

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So like the blue you said is like

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you get two things.

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You get 12 videos, right?

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Right.

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So blue.

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When you go to bronze, which is the

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most popular plan right now, you get all

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the virtual George front of the line, unlimited

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webinar access.

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So anything we release throughout the year, you

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can review anything in the library at all.

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You can review.

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And there's actually have to count.

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I think I have over 50 videos now

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in the webinar library of tech training.

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Shit loads is the Aussie term for that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And then the memberships.

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Then what differentiates it really is you get

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more questions per month that you can ask

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more sound checks for per year.

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And then you also get to processing presets,

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which are usually $90 each.

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Everybody loves processing presets, especially engineers.

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Just kidding.

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And then scheduling, you can get scheduled zoom

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calls, consulting with me privately twice a year.

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And you get one emergency instance of support

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per year on the bronze plan.

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So you get a lot more in the

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bronze plan.

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So the silver just really ups the ante

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in terms of more of everything.

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So if you find that you want to

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have better access to more emergency support calls

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and just more access to me generally, that's

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where silver and then gold come in.

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Just depends on how busy you are, how

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much demand and really maybe how complicated your

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studio is at the end of the day.

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So that's it.

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Thanks.

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And I hope you guys find that to

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be a good deal.

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Again, it's GTT50OFFCM24.

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Use that coupon code when you check out

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on the website.

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And that's at georged.tech slash member sign

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up.

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Very cool.

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Beautiful.

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Choice.

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Choice.

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So what's happening with source elements, Robert?

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So we have a Black Friday thing.

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What is it?

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It can be.

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So everything on the store has some sort

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of discount or something applied to it.

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Let's see.

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There's an upgrade for really old Nexus license

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holders.

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There's a Nexus first month free, which is

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the one that ends up being basically like

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92% off the first month of Nexus.

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And then I think there's at least a

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15% off the yearly, I believe.

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Then going over to Source Connect, there are

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$75 off.

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So no initial fee on any of the

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subscriptions.

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There's a, I think for the really old

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upgrades, if you have a super old license,

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it's 50% off the upgrade to 3

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.9. Then for 3.8, I think it's

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maybe 25%.

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And then we have a 15% off

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of early upgrade from 3.9 to 4.

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So 25% from 3.8 to 3

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.9. And then the jumping off point to

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4 is from 3.9. So everyone has

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to get up to 3.9 to jump

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to 4.

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And then there's an early 15% off

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that for 4 for the year.

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I think that's everything.

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It's pretty cool, though.

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So a typical sale.

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So what's the code?

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Do you need the code?

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It all depends.

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There's going to be basically an email that

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goes out.

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And then there'll be a menu where you

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can click on it.

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And it'll just say, click here for this

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item or click here for that item.

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And we try to do it so that

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we also aren't emailing people that don't have

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a license.

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I think this year's going to be a

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little less programmatic like that.

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So you just kind of go through the

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menu and look.

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I know in the past we tried to

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just go like, well, you don't have Nexus,

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so here's your upgrade for SourceConnect because the

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other thing doesn't apply to you.

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So it's kind of hard to segment everything

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like that.

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Well, particularly if someone's got Buzz.

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Well, yeah, exactly.

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Just the mailing side alone, setting up the

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system to send out those custom emails that

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only go to the right people is quite

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a process.

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It's something I'm actually working on myself.

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Yeah, it is.

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I'm doing some email joint moment.

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Segmentation, at least that's what we call it.

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Yep.

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I just send text messages to the wrong

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people.

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That's because you're old, though.

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That's why.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Do you send text messages that say, hi,

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how have you been?

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Yeah.

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Didn't we meet last week at dinner?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That's right.

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No, I just actually sent a text to

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our cleaner saying, you should come and check

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it out.

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And then she came back with four question

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marks.

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I went, sorry, that was meant for Somerset

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when we were talking about Source Connect 4.

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I thought you were going to say it

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was meant for Meg, and I was going

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to say, what's the picture?

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You should come and check it out.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I'll see you tomorrow morning, then.

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That's when you reply back with a dick

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pic.

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Oh, no.

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Ask Arnold Schwarzenegger how that turned out.

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I know.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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All right, Rob, you've got a bit of

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a black Friday deal.

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I'm going to dip my toe in the

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black Friday pool, too.

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I'm going to offer 15% off your

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next demo, and that's for anybody here in

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Oz or in the US.

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Or anywhere.

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Or anywhere, for that matter.

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So, yeah, it's not a difficult code to

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remember, just black 15.

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But you don't have to book the demo

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today or black Friday.

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But what you have to do is book

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the – I do a free chat session

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before you book your demo.

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So, if you book your free chat in

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the next 24 hours and you go on

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to book your demo, you'll get 15%

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off.

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So, yeah.

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Lovely.

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Nice.

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And what's the code again?

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Black 15, only because I couldn't think of

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anything else on the spare of the moment.

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That sounds a bit Vegas.

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Maybe I should put my money on black

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15.

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There you go.

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How do you do the demos?

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Do you do it, like, by session and

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then, like, a mix?

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It's just a flat-out V, and it's

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a bit of a process.

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So, I do a chat where we –

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and this is the same for what Andrew

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and I were doing.

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We do a chat first and sort of

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get an idea of what you want from

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your demo and what sort of demo you

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want to do.

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And then I write some scripts, and the

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client gets those back to have a look

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at.

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And then we do a session number one,

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which is where we go through each script

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one by one, obviously, and put it all

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down.

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And then I go away and I do

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a rough mix on those and a rough

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edit.

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The client gets those back to have a

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listen to.

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And then we do session two, and we

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go through the process of listening to each

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one.

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I share my Pro Tools screen through Nexus,

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and they get to see the Pro Tools

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screen.

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And sort of we work through script by

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script and do pickups and rewrites and all

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the rest of it there.

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And then final mixes and a bunch of

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WAV files and MP3 files later, your demo's

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done.

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So two records and with it two sort

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of mixes.

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Two records, two mixes, and all your scripts

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as well.

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And all the scripts too.

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That's right.

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So it's a bit of a process, but

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it's a good one.

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And it's got some really good rewards.

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In fact, I can tell you, and I

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can say here first, that a client of

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mine, Katerina Sertiz, who's over in Perth, was

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just picked up by – Now I'm going

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to get the name of this wrong.

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Let's see if I can find it quickly.

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Let me just jump onto my – There's

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a women in promos movement.

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They're trying to get more women on promo

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voiceovers.

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And what they had to do was they

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had to – artists had to submit their

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demos to be considered.

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And there's been only one person selected in

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each country or each continent.

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So there was Australia, the United States, United

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Kingdom, and a couple of others.

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There's about five – South Africa was another

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one.

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There's about five or six places all around

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the world.

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Anyway, her demo that I produced for her

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got her chosen as the Australian representative for

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women in promos.

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Well, I'll touch you then.

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That's very good.

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So she's done really well for herself.

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Matt Cowrick is another Voodoo Sound voiceover demo

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recipient.

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So yeah, well, he got work with Scout

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with that.

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He's actually just got on with Andrew's agent

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here.

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I mean, I can't claim that Matt Cowrick's

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magic was completely concocted by my demo, but

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I'd sort of like to hope it helped.

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Who's the biggest global demo mill, do you

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think?

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It'd have to be – what's his name

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in – Is it J.

391
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Michael?

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I'd say Chuck.

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Yeah, it'd have to be Chuck, surely.

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Is it Chuck?

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I would have thought so.

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Yeah, probably.

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George, what do you think?

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I mean – Like worldwide, the biggest demo

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mill worldwide.

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Well, okay, the word mill definitely has a

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negative connotation to it.

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I apologize.

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Okay, so let's start over.

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So we build on that and I will

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comment.

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Sorry.

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Who's the most prolific demo producer around the

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world?

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Yeah, who's like the biggest demo producers in

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the world as far as like – I

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don't know how we could know that.

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I mean, we certainly know who are the

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most well-known, that's for sure.

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I mean, that have been around the longest

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marketing themselves is doing those things, the longest

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demos that rock.

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Chuck Duran's a big one, of course.

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Chuck Duran.

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Nancy Wilson.

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J.

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Michael, right?

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Nancy Wilson.

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Nancy Wilson's been doing it a really long

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time.

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J.

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Michael Collins.

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I mean, Nancy's the centerfold of every single

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voiceover resource guide that they put in all

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the studios in the US.

430
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Yeah, the Vorg.

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She buys the centerfold of that every single

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time because she just wants to be remembered.

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It's tough out there when you are one

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of the OGs, you've been doing it a

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really long time.

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And there's so many other production companies coming

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up.

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You have to stay on top of mind.

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And how much do those – I know

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that some of those demos are like $3

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,000 or more.

442
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Yeah, I've heard of more than $3,000.

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That's a lot of money for a demo.

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For a demo, yeah.

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It seems that the numbers I hear bantered

446
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about tend to be between $2,000 and

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$3,000.

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But to be fair, I mean, having been

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doing this now for about 18 months, there's

450
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a shitload of work that goes into a

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good demo.

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I mean, if you want to pay $200,

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$300 for a demo, you're not getting scripts

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written for you.

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And you're certainly not getting an hour dedicated

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before you even start the whole process.

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So the person who's doing your demo can

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understand more about you and what you're good

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at and what your strengths are and what

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your weaknesses are and make a few suggestions.

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Robbo, check this out.

462
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So I was going to tell everyone this

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when you were digging through your email and

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stuff.

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So I just did that demo for Sage,

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right?

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Yep.

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And how did I come up with the

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scripts?

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I just listened to other voiceover demos and

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I wrote them.

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Be careful.

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Well, so then today I'm like, oh, I'm

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going to go over to this site and

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email them and be like, here, here's Sage's

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demo.

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Just try to get an intro.

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And I play the first – and I

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mean the goddamn first item on the list.

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And it's like some new thing.

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And it is the last – is word

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for word the last thing on Sage's demo.

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Whoops.

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Yeah.

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So it's funny.

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And it's like that whole thing about custom

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scripts.

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You've got to be careful.

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You do.

490
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And then there's searching out music and all

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of it.

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There is a ton to it, absolutely.

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But even that, at these rates.

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I mean, you can cut this out entirely,

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but I would imagine you're not doing like

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$3,000 plus per demo or at the

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same rate that those – No, I'm not

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doing that.

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– that they are.

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I'd imagine that you got like – No,

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that's right.

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And look, I mean, who knows?

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With time, I might be able to.

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But for now, I'm paying myself a comfortable

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amount that sort of justifies my time and

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sort of still encourages people to sort of

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give me a go.

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I'll tell you another reason why.

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I'm pretty sure with all of those guys,

510
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they are hiring engineers and they are hiring

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other people to do the demos.

512
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Yeah.

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Chuck does his own.

514
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At some level.

515
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No, Chuck's an engineer.

516
00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:09,369
Chuck does it?

517
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Yeah, Chuck engineers his own.

518
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Yeah.

519
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But not everybody.

520
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There's a lot of coaches who do that.

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Yeah, I thought – I mean, I certainly

522
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worked at a place where there was like,

523
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you know, people producing it.

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And it was more of like a staffed

525
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up thing where they had someone who was

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producing the sessions.

527
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Yeah.

528
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And an engineer for all of them.

529
00:17:27,310 --> 00:17:30,050
My friend Rick Wasserman, he produces demos through

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Bookable.

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And then he has Greg Chunn produce the

532
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– you know, do the production.

533
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He'll do the music, the mix.

534
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Right.

535
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So it's oftentimes a team.

536
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In that case, you can see why the

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price goes up.

538
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Chuck is the engineer, producer.

539
00:17:46,650 --> 00:17:48,050
I'm not sure what hats he's wearing, but

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certainly an engineer.

541
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And then Stacey writes the scripts.

542
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That's how they work together.

543
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Yeah.

544
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Right.

545
00:17:54,990 --> 00:17:58,490
So here Robbo's like, I am four people.

546
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Yeah.

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And then I'm trying to do – That's

548
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what you got to do to get started.

549
00:18:01,850 --> 00:18:04,010
You can't hire everything out when you're just

550
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getting started off, you know, launching a business.

551
00:18:06,570 --> 00:18:06,790
Correct.

552
00:18:07,010 --> 00:18:09,430
If you pay out for everybody, it takes

553
00:18:09,430 --> 00:18:10,270
a really long time.

554
00:18:10,370 --> 00:18:11,770
You know what I've found, though, is the

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biggest thing to making a demo for somebody

556
00:18:14,250 --> 00:18:15,850
else, the most important thing, is actually just

557
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listening.

558
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Yeah.

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Yeah.

560
00:18:17,070 --> 00:18:20,770
All the other skills aside, it's actually –

561
00:18:20,770 --> 00:18:23,970
that first hour that I spend just in

562
00:18:23,970 --> 00:18:26,830
a Google meeting with a client is the

563
00:18:26,830 --> 00:18:28,770
most important hour of the whole process, because

564
00:18:28,770 --> 00:18:30,610
unless you understand what they're trying to get

565
00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:32,050
out of it and you have an understanding

566
00:18:32,050 --> 00:18:34,270
of what their strengths are as a voiceover

567
00:18:34,270 --> 00:18:36,730
artist and what their weaknesses are and maybe

568
00:18:36,730 --> 00:18:39,190
understanding of sort of where they want to

569
00:18:39,190 --> 00:18:41,110
go and what they want to do, then

570
00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:43,610
it's just – you're making a demo that's

571
00:18:43,610 --> 00:18:44,950
really not going to do anything for them

572
00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:46,890
except make some noise.

573
00:18:47,910 --> 00:18:49,750
That's the most important thing, I reckon.

574
00:18:50,730 --> 00:18:53,430
And that's obviously what these guys like Chuck

575
00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:54,950
and Jay and all that get right as

576
00:18:54,950 --> 00:18:55,090
well.

577
00:18:56,710 --> 00:18:57,950
Yeah, but it's interesting.

578
00:18:58,450 --> 00:19:01,430
If you don't understand the person right from

579
00:19:01,430 --> 00:19:02,870
the get-go, you're going to end up

580
00:19:02,870 --> 00:19:05,230
with a demo that is not going to

581
00:19:05,230 --> 00:19:08,390
be indicative of what your talent can do.

582
00:19:08,410 --> 00:19:08,690
Exactly.

583
00:19:10,210 --> 00:19:12,190
And you're probably selling them to the wrong

584
00:19:12,190 --> 00:19:12,490
audience.

585
00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:13,130
Absolutely.

586
00:19:13,550 --> 00:19:15,170
You find the strengths that they've got and

587
00:19:15,170 --> 00:19:16,010
that's what you work on.

588
00:19:16,110 --> 00:19:19,470
Yeah, and the thing where I'm lucky is

589
00:19:19,470 --> 00:19:22,210
working with some big agencies here in Australia

590
00:19:22,210 --> 00:19:24,130
and global agencies is I get to see

591
00:19:24,130 --> 00:19:26,030
where the trends are in terms of where

592
00:19:26,030 --> 00:19:28,070
voiceover is going and so I can incorporate

593
00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:30,770
that into demos if that's going to assist

594
00:19:30,770 --> 00:19:34,630
someone in terms of styles and different ways

595
00:19:34,630 --> 00:19:36,330
of reads and all that sort of stuff

596
00:19:36,330 --> 00:19:37,350
too, so that's helpful.

597
00:19:37,870 --> 00:19:39,030
But here's the thing.

598
00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:40,610
Who needs a demo?

599
00:19:40,790 --> 00:19:44,250
Because I've seen, for example, someone at Andrew's

600
00:19:44,250 --> 00:19:48,790
level who's like, I'm too close to it

601
00:19:48,790 --> 00:19:50,430
and I don't have the time and I'm

602
00:19:50,430 --> 00:19:51,270
not as good as this.

603
00:19:51,630 --> 00:19:53,470
So here's a whole bunch of spots I

604
00:19:53,470 --> 00:19:55,430
worked on and make me a demo.

605
00:19:56,270 --> 00:19:57,430
It needs to be a minute and a

606
00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:58,230
half long or whatever.

607
00:19:58,690 --> 00:20:00,190
And they're paying for that, but really they're

608
00:20:00,190 --> 00:20:02,230
not paying to create the material because they

609
00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:04,290
just have a book of work that already

610
00:20:04,290 --> 00:20:05,750
– it's just for real.

611
00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:07,950
So that's one level of making a demo.

612
00:20:08,550 --> 00:20:11,150
And then the next one is you're trying

613
00:20:11,150 --> 00:20:12,890
to get into a new line of business,

614
00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:16,830
like whatever you want to do, like promos

615
00:20:16,830 --> 00:20:17,910
instead of just commercials.

616
00:20:20,590 --> 00:20:23,070
And you don't have the material and you

617
00:20:23,070 --> 00:20:25,150
don't necessarily have the skills or, again, the

618
00:20:25,150 --> 00:20:27,790
perspective to make your own demo, but you're

619
00:20:27,790 --> 00:20:30,350
already like a seasoned voice talent.

620
00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:32,150
You're just making a new genre.

621
00:20:32,610 --> 00:20:34,790
And then I guess the last one is

622
00:20:34,790 --> 00:20:37,730
someone's just coming in fresh, which really –

623
00:20:37,730 --> 00:20:38,370
I mean, what?

624
00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:39,790
They're just going to do a general demo,

625
00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:42,590
like a couple spots with a PSA in

626
00:20:42,590 --> 00:20:43,710
the middle of it or something.

627
00:20:44,610 --> 00:20:46,490
Can I play you something talking about people

628
00:20:46,490 --> 00:20:47,190
coming in new?

629
00:20:47,330 --> 00:20:48,610
And this is a bit of shameless self

630
00:20:48,610 --> 00:20:49,350
-promotion, I suppose.

631
00:20:49,470 --> 00:20:52,110
But I did a voiceover demo for a

632
00:20:52,110 --> 00:20:54,330
gentleman lately who's been an actor on stage

633
00:20:54,330 --> 00:20:54,970
all his life.

634
00:20:55,290 --> 00:20:57,890
I love seeing you do this, too, because

635
00:20:57,890 --> 00:20:59,650
you're going to chuck it in the timeline.

636
00:20:59,730 --> 00:21:00,350
He's in his 60s.

637
00:21:00,350 --> 00:21:01,290
Right ahead of the playhead.

638
00:21:01,290 --> 00:21:02,810
I am, but I've got to go find

639
00:21:02,810 --> 00:21:03,830
it, so give me a second.

640
00:21:04,190 --> 00:21:04,350
Right.

641
00:21:04,490 --> 00:21:07,630
But he came to me and he said,

642
00:21:07,690 --> 00:21:10,210
look, I've got a new acting agent and

643
00:21:10,210 --> 00:21:12,090
my acting agent suggested that I get into

644
00:21:12,090 --> 00:21:12,630
voiceover.

645
00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:15,570
And my first thing was like, oh shit,

646
00:21:15,710 --> 00:21:16,330
one of these.

647
00:21:18,170 --> 00:21:20,050
Everybody's a voiceover artist, right?

648
00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:22,690
But can I just say this guy and

649
00:21:22,690 --> 00:21:27,510
his ability to take direction was absolutely incredible.

650
00:21:28,730 --> 00:21:32,270
He's not a polished voiceover artist and certainly

651
00:21:32,270 --> 00:21:34,850
doesn't have all the skills that a voice

652
00:21:34,850 --> 00:21:35,450
artist needs.

653
00:21:36,090 --> 00:21:36,950
Is he an actor?

654
00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:37,910
He's an actor.

655
00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:38,710
Absolutely.

656
00:21:39,070 --> 00:21:39,570
He is an actor.

657
00:21:39,690 --> 00:21:40,130
Well, there you go.

658
00:21:40,150 --> 00:21:43,450
He's a lovely guy and he listened to

659
00:21:43,450 --> 00:21:44,550
everything I had to say.

660
00:21:44,750 --> 00:21:46,810
And he didn't take offense when I sort

661
00:21:46,810 --> 00:21:48,510
of went, look, there's a big difference between

662
00:21:48,510 --> 00:21:49,570
acting and voiceover.

663
00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:51,250
And he sort of listened to what I

664
00:21:51,250 --> 00:21:51,830
had to say.

665
00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:57,050
And he came out with this most amazing

666
00:21:57,050 --> 00:22:02,190
set of scripts, of reads on the scripts

667
00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:03,230
that I'd written for him.

668
00:22:03,290 --> 00:22:04,370
I'm just trying to find it at the

669
00:22:04,370 --> 00:22:04,890
same time.

670
00:22:06,210 --> 00:22:07,910
And yeah, he was incredible.

671
00:22:08,090 --> 00:22:09,010
He was just amazing.

672
00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:11,110
And just, here we go, if I can

673
00:22:11,110 --> 00:22:11,690
find him.

674
00:22:11,970 --> 00:22:13,910
I think with most people when they're getting

675
00:22:13,910 --> 00:22:15,190
into it is trying to get them to

676
00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:17,350
be really dynamic in a session.

677
00:22:17,950 --> 00:22:18,050
Yeah.

678
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:20,470
Usually they get in a rut and they

679
00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:22,070
read it exactly the same a whole bunch

680
00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:22,470
of times.

681
00:22:22,590 --> 00:22:24,790
And you're like, you know, change it up

682
00:22:24,790 --> 00:22:25,510
and do stuff.

683
00:22:25,630 --> 00:22:27,650
And whatever it's like, it never goes beyond

684
00:22:27,650 --> 00:22:28,090
this room.

685
00:22:28,250 --> 00:22:31,270
If it's like weird, funny sounding, it just

686
00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:31,930
doesn't matter.

687
00:22:32,450 --> 00:22:33,430
And go out on a limb.

688
00:22:33,530 --> 00:22:34,970
And then once you get someone out there

689
00:22:34,970 --> 00:22:36,970
and they're loosened up, then all of a

690
00:22:36,970 --> 00:22:38,350
sudden, it's funny.

691
00:22:38,450 --> 00:22:39,890
Looking back, you're like, oh, yeah, that one

692
00:22:39,890 --> 00:22:41,710
crazy take was the perfect thing for the

693
00:22:41,710 --> 00:22:42,150
end of it.

694
00:22:42,850 --> 00:22:45,270
I've had people come here during COVID.

695
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:47,930
I've had voice actors come over to use

696
00:22:47,930 --> 00:22:49,450
the studio because they can't get into town

697
00:22:49,450 --> 00:22:51,570
because of the COVID pandemic.

698
00:22:52,490 --> 00:22:54,470
And I'm not going to mention any names,

699
00:22:54,610 --> 00:22:56,190
of course, but I remember one session.

700
00:22:56,330 --> 00:22:58,450
I was sitting here actually monitoring because it

701
00:22:58,450 --> 00:22:59,610
was down the line on Source Connect.

702
00:23:02,070 --> 00:23:03,510
And it's one of those things where the

703
00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:04,730
last line, can you just give us three

704
00:23:04,730 --> 00:23:07,070
takes of that last, you know, the tag

705
00:23:07,070 --> 00:23:07,430
or whatever.

706
00:23:08,270 --> 00:23:09,130
It's like, okay.

707
00:23:09,630 --> 00:23:12,910
And the three takes of that tag were

708
00:23:12,910 --> 00:23:14,550
all exactly the same.

709
00:23:15,030 --> 00:23:15,250
Oh, really?

710
00:23:15,710 --> 00:23:17,430
And I'm thinking, useless.

711
00:23:18,050 --> 00:23:18,250
What?

712
00:23:18,850 --> 00:23:19,210
Anyway.

713
00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:20,430
Yeah, useless.

714
00:23:22,010 --> 00:23:22,410
Yeah.

715
00:23:22,490 --> 00:23:23,250
I'm just trying to think.

716
00:23:23,610 --> 00:23:25,670
Is another thing that I've heard from casting

717
00:23:25,670 --> 00:23:28,270
directors, like when you're producing a demo, is

718
00:23:28,270 --> 00:23:31,350
to try to avoid the really major brands?

719
00:23:31,730 --> 00:23:32,150
Yeah.

720
00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:33,970
That's what I've heard as well.

721
00:23:33,990 --> 00:23:36,050
Well, I kind of tend to disagree.

722
00:23:36,970 --> 00:23:38,270
This is debatable.

723
00:23:38,550 --> 00:23:40,910
Yeah, there's a bunch of reasons I disagree

724
00:23:40,910 --> 00:23:41,310
with that.

725
00:23:41,810 --> 00:23:45,310
I don't think anybody is saying that that's

726
00:23:45,310 --> 00:23:46,190
something that you did.

727
00:23:46,810 --> 00:23:48,110
And I certainly, when I was trying to

728
00:23:48,110 --> 00:23:49,670
start out, did all kinds of cuts and

729
00:23:49,670 --> 00:23:51,610
overcuts of stuff that other people did.

730
00:23:52,210 --> 00:23:53,530
It's got to be believable.

731
00:23:54,250 --> 00:23:57,470
If you're going to do a spot for

732
00:23:57,470 --> 00:24:01,050
Qantas or McDonald's, it's got to be believable.

733
00:24:01,450 --> 00:24:03,690
It's got to make someone who's listening going,

734
00:24:03,970 --> 00:24:05,970
shit, did they do that or didn't they?

735
00:24:06,650 --> 00:24:07,210
You know what I mean?

736
00:24:07,270 --> 00:24:09,350
If someone's at a level where they could

737
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:11,310
easily pull off a McDonald's script, why not?

738
00:24:12,190 --> 00:24:12,770
You know what I mean?

739
00:24:12,790 --> 00:24:12,990
Yeah.

740
00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:14,750
I think this was in the context of

741
00:24:14,750 --> 00:24:18,290
some big market agencies.

742
00:24:18,530 --> 00:24:18,630
Yeah.

743
00:24:19,970 --> 00:24:21,390
And then they're going to listen to your

744
00:24:21,390 --> 00:24:23,450
spot and go, yeah, I know that campaign.

745
00:24:23,530 --> 00:24:24,370
He's not on that campaign.

746
00:24:24,370 --> 00:24:26,390
I think the biggest problem was with that.

747
00:24:26,690 --> 00:24:28,790
The reason, because I know I was told

748
00:24:28,790 --> 00:24:31,230
not to do that for this one reason.

749
00:24:31,930 --> 00:24:33,770
And the reason is if someone hears your

750
00:24:33,770 --> 00:24:42,810
demo and it's a product that's competing product.

751
00:24:43,130 --> 00:24:43,990
Yeah, competing product.

752
00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:47,510
And you're reading a Chevy ad and someone

753
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:49,090
from Ford wants to book you and they

754
00:24:49,090 --> 00:24:49,610
hear this thing.

755
00:24:49,690 --> 00:24:50,430
It's like, what?

756
00:24:50,570 --> 00:24:51,210
He's doing Chevy?

757
00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:52,350
No, you're out.

758
00:24:52,930 --> 00:24:54,130
That's an issue.

759
00:24:55,850 --> 00:24:56,330
Yeah.

760
00:24:57,210 --> 00:24:58,810
That's an interesting reason.

761
00:24:59,590 --> 00:25:01,190
That's a very big difference between a demo

762
00:25:01,190 --> 00:25:01,730
and a reel.

763
00:25:01,990 --> 00:25:02,690
Yeah, exactly.

764
00:25:02,690 --> 00:25:03,470
Where a reel would be an accelerator.

765
00:25:03,470 --> 00:25:05,270
That is the difference between a demo and

766
00:25:05,270 --> 00:25:05,450
a reel.

767
00:25:05,810 --> 00:25:08,570
Well, on another tip, another thing, I got

768
00:25:08,570 --> 00:25:10,310
interviewed by Mark Scott.

769
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:13,850
He has a podcast called Everyday Veopreneur.

770
00:25:14,250 --> 00:25:14,490
Yep.

771
00:25:14,750 --> 00:25:16,770
And it's a pretty popular podcast.

772
00:25:17,050 --> 00:25:18,110
And his big thing is marketing.

773
00:25:18,110 --> 00:25:20,650
But he brought me on for his annual

774
00:25:20,650 --> 00:25:23,110
holiday season episode.

775
00:25:24,090 --> 00:25:24,310
Oh, yeah.

776
00:25:24,550 --> 00:25:27,130
And so I was the guest of the

777
00:25:27,130 --> 00:25:27,310
year.

778
00:25:27,470 --> 00:25:29,450
And so it was all about what things

779
00:25:29,450 --> 00:25:31,970
I recommend to buy for your studio.

780
00:25:32,450 --> 00:25:34,150
And he had me on for a solid

781
00:25:34,150 --> 00:25:35,190
hour at least.

782
00:25:36,210 --> 00:25:37,610
And so we covered everything.

783
00:25:37,790 --> 00:25:39,770
Of course, we talked about Passport.

784
00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:42,370
Of course, we talked about Tribooth.

785
00:25:42,550 --> 00:25:44,990
We talked about some of our favorite things

786
00:25:44,990 --> 00:25:45,870
that we've worked on.

787
00:25:45,870 --> 00:25:48,470
But I covered everything from like a $99

788
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:50,250
mic all the way up to, you know,

789
00:25:50,250 --> 00:25:53,590
everything in between up to a voiceover booth,

790
00:25:53,730 --> 00:25:54,030
you know.

791
00:25:54,410 --> 00:25:56,870
So if anybody's interested in hearing my thoughts

792
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:59,610
on a huge array of different categories of

793
00:25:59,610 --> 00:26:02,550
audio and gear and everything, check that out.

794
00:26:02,610 --> 00:26:04,290
That was released on the 21st.

795
00:26:04,350 --> 00:26:05,390
I might even listen to that.

796
00:26:05,450 --> 00:26:05,850
There you go.

797
00:26:05,950 --> 00:26:07,130
I had another funny interview.

798
00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:08,890
So I was on my way from a

799
00:26:08,890 --> 00:26:11,590
client's home back to home.

800
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:14,850
And I get a text from Ann Ganguza,

801
00:26:14,970 --> 00:26:15,870
who was interviewing me.

802
00:26:16,650 --> 00:26:18,850
And she's like, hey, just checking in.

803
00:26:18,930 --> 00:26:19,570
And I'm driving.

804
00:26:19,790 --> 00:26:21,690
And I'm like, oh, okay, nice.

805
00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:26,110
And she's like, what about our interview right

806
00:26:26,110 --> 00:26:26,250
now?

807
00:26:26,290 --> 00:26:26,830
What are you doing?

808
00:26:27,030 --> 00:26:27,950
Are we doing the interview?

809
00:26:28,110 --> 00:26:29,910
And I was like, oh, no.

810
00:26:31,290 --> 00:26:33,850
So I was so hungry.

811
00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:34,690
I was starving.

812
00:26:35,090 --> 00:26:36,290
And I had to do this interview.

813
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:37,470
And I didn't want to blow her off

814
00:26:37,470 --> 00:26:37,790
and reschedule.

815
00:26:38,190 --> 00:26:39,750
She had scheduled it weeks out, you know.

816
00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:42,590
So I pulled into a Chili's restaurant, which

817
00:26:42,590 --> 00:26:45,750
is just like a Denny's or nothing special.

818
00:26:46,890 --> 00:26:48,550
And I found the quietest spot in the

819
00:26:48,550 --> 00:26:48,910
restaurant.

820
00:26:49,250 --> 00:26:51,730
We recorded the whole interview while I literally

821
00:26:51,730 --> 00:26:52,450
ate lunch.

822
00:26:52,890 --> 00:26:56,330
So when she was talking, I was eating

823
00:26:56,330 --> 00:26:58,990
my burger that she was talking.

824
00:27:00,630 --> 00:27:02,870
And then I happened to have my headset

825
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:04,550
mic with the mic with a little boom

826
00:27:04,550 --> 00:27:04,970
on it.

827
00:27:04,970 --> 00:27:06,830
So we got decent audio.

828
00:27:07,570 --> 00:27:10,550
But she used the Riverside FM, you know,

829
00:27:10,570 --> 00:27:13,150
audio cleanup thing that just gets rid of

830
00:27:13,150 --> 00:27:14,310
all the background noise.

831
00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:17,710
You listen to it, you would not know

832
00:27:17,710 --> 00:27:18,770
I'm sitting in a restaurant.

833
00:27:19,490 --> 00:27:21,110
How did you manage to get the burger

834
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:21,890
past the microphone?

835
00:27:22,170 --> 00:27:22,910
That's my question.

836
00:27:23,450 --> 00:27:24,850
And what about when you slurp the bottom

837
00:27:24,850 --> 00:27:25,510
of your milkshake?

838
00:27:25,650 --> 00:27:27,930
You get the bottom of your milkshake.

839
00:27:28,050 --> 00:27:28,830
How did you hide that one?

840
00:27:29,070 --> 00:27:29,650
Well, that's the thing.

841
00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:32,950
So she posted a one-minute clip, a

842
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:34,110
reel on Instagram.

843
00:27:34,770 --> 00:27:36,590
And it's one of those top and bottom

844
00:27:36,590 --> 00:27:37,130
videos.

845
00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:39,850
And she's on the top and she's talking

846
00:27:39,850 --> 00:27:41,550
away for like a solid minute.

847
00:27:42,110 --> 00:27:44,070
What am I doing in the bottom frame?

848
00:27:44,550 --> 00:27:44,950
Eating.

849
00:27:45,450 --> 00:27:46,530
The entire time.

850
00:27:46,850 --> 00:27:47,230
Nice.

851
00:27:48,110 --> 00:27:49,730
Because I'm like trying to get in like

852
00:27:49,730 --> 00:27:51,550
a decent amount of food here before it's

853
00:27:51,550 --> 00:27:53,250
my turn to start talking, you know.

854
00:27:53,910 --> 00:27:56,450
And so all it is is her talking

855
00:27:56,450 --> 00:27:57,790
and me eating at the bottom.

856
00:27:59,370 --> 00:28:00,890
At first I was like, really?

857
00:28:00,970 --> 00:28:02,830
That's the clip she picked out to put

858
00:28:02,830 --> 00:28:03,850
on the Instagram.

859
00:28:04,570 --> 00:28:04,910
There you go.

860
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:06,390
So you can record anywhere, right?

861
00:28:06,550 --> 00:28:09,130
Her podcast should be called Ghouly Ghouly Gotcha.

862
00:28:10,210 --> 00:28:11,930
Or Gotcha by the Ghoulies.

863
00:28:12,990 --> 00:28:13,730
Gotcha by the Ghoulies.

864
00:28:14,850 --> 00:28:15,230
Okay.

865
00:28:17,010 --> 00:28:18,450
So I found the file here.

866
00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:19,610
Have a listen to this.

867
00:28:19,810 --> 00:28:20,790
All right.

868
00:28:21,530 --> 00:28:22,830
Let's talk cravings.

869
00:28:22,970 --> 00:28:23,770
You know the feeling.

870
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:26,150
It's 11 p.m. and your stomach's louder

871
00:28:26,150 --> 00:28:26,950
than your TV.

872
00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:28,610
You think, oh, just have a snack.

873
00:28:29,130 --> 00:28:30,290
Nah, mate.

874
00:28:30,370 --> 00:28:32,810
You're heading to KFC, aren't ya?

875
00:28:33,250 --> 00:28:35,670
I mean, who can resist that crispy finger

876
00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:36,450
-lickin' chicken?

877
00:28:36,730 --> 00:28:38,550
It's like they put something in it, right?

878
00:28:38,910 --> 00:28:39,890
No, seriously.

879
00:28:40,170 --> 00:28:41,150
That stuff's addictive.

880
00:28:41,570 --> 00:28:43,030
Don't get me started on the chips.

881
00:28:43,470 --> 00:28:44,870
You ever tried to eat just one?

882
00:28:45,650 --> 00:28:46,170
Impossible.

883
00:28:47,630 --> 00:28:48,930
They should come with a warning label.

884
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:50,590
KFC.

885
00:28:50,970 --> 00:28:53,890
When the craving hits, you know where to

886
00:28:53,890 --> 00:28:54,310
go.

887
00:28:54,830 --> 00:28:56,530
And don't worry, we've all been there.

888
00:28:57,130 --> 00:28:58,110
Twice this week.

889
00:29:03,630 --> 00:29:05,450
So, yeah, his name's Drew James.

890
00:29:05,670 --> 00:29:08,170
And he just, you know, we just, and

891
00:29:08,170 --> 00:29:09,730
that was sort of, you know, coming back

892
00:29:09,730 --> 00:29:11,730
to playing on, you know, their strengths and

893
00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:12,090
weaknesses.

894
00:29:12,290 --> 00:29:14,070
His strength was obviously acting, so we wrote

895
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:14,770
a bunch of scripts.

896
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:17,610
That was obviously a really acting one, but

897
00:29:17,610 --> 00:29:19,250
we did some where he could still use

898
00:29:19,250 --> 00:29:21,030
those acting skills, but it was more of

899
00:29:21,030 --> 00:29:21,750
a voiceover.

900
00:29:22,770 --> 00:29:23,170
Yeah.

901
00:29:23,230 --> 00:29:24,570
And it just worked really well.

902
00:29:24,890 --> 00:29:25,290
So, yeah.

903
00:29:26,170 --> 00:29:26,650
It did, man.

904
00:29:26,650 --> 00:29:28,770
It really captured that, like being in a

905
00:29:28,770 --> 00:29:30,730
nightclub and doing a comedy act.

906
00:29:30,750 --> 00:29:32,090
Well, see, it was all in the way

907
00:29:32,090 --> 00:29:33,650
we did it because he came here to

908
00:29:33,650 --> 00:29:37,270
record, so I just grabbed an SM58 for

909
00:29:37,270 --> 00:29:40,550
that spot, grabbed an SM58 and just let

910
00:29:40,550 --> 00:29:41,950
him go for it.

911
00:29:42,010 --> 00:29:42,930
So he could just act.

912
00:29:43,030 --> 00:29:44,150
That's all he had to think about.

913
00:29:44,250 --> 00:29:44,850
That's smart.

914
00:29:45,050 --> 00:29:45,650
Yeah, absolutely.

915
00:29:45,890 --> 00:29:47,450
So he was just, he could just get

916
00:29:47,450 --> 00:29:49,290
into that acting thing, and that's what it

917
00:29:49,290 --> 00:29:49,510
was.

918
00:29:49,610 --> 00:29:52,150
And obviously being on a 58, you don't

919
00:29:52,150 --> 00:29:53,730
have to try and make that nightclub sound.

920
00:29:53,850 --> 00:29:55,230
You've already sort of halfway there.

921
00:29:55,950 --> 00:29:58,170
So it was nice.

922
00:29:58,270 --> 00:29:58,970
Yeah.