Jan. 15, 2025

Dark Matter Dynamics, Solar Flare Trio, and Meteor Shower Wonders: S28E07

Dark Matter Dynamics, Solar Flare Trio, and Meteor Shower Wonders: S28E07

SpaceTime Series 28 Episode 07
Dark Matter's Role in Milky Way's Stellar Streams
New research suggests that dark matter may have influenced the formation of the GD-1 stellar stream in the Milky Way. A study in the Astrophysical Journal Letters...

SpaceTime Series 28 Episode 07
Dark Matter's Role in Milky Way's Stellar Streams
New research suggests that dark matter may have influenced the formation of the GD-1 stellar stream in the Milky Way. A study in the Astrophysical Journal Letters proposes that a core-collapsing, self-interacting dark matter subhalo could explain the unusual spur and gap features observed in the stream. This finding could deepen our understanding of dark matter's properties and its influence on the universe.
Sun's Triple Solar Flare Eruption
The Sun has unleashed three significant X-class solar flares in a single day, with the first and third being X1.1 flares and the second an X1.5. These powerful eruptions, detected by NOAA's Solar Ultraviolet Imager, are part of the Sun's approach to solar maximum, the peak of its 11-year solar cycle. Solar flares can disrupt Earth's communications, power grids, and pose health risks to astronauts.
Quadrantids Meteor Shower Spectacle
The Earth is experiencing the Quadrantids meteor shower, offering a dazzling display of shooting stars. Originating from the near-Earth asteroid 2003 EH1, the Quadrantids are best viewed from dark locations, with peak sightings expected in the Pacific region. Sky watchers can anticipate around 50 meteors per hour, with potential fireballs enhancing the spectacle.
00:00 This is space time series 28 episode 7 for broadcast on 15 January 2025
00:46 New research proposes a self interacting dark matter subhalo could explain GD1 features
04:24 The sun unleashed three significant X class solar flares on the same day
07:19 Earth is experiencing one of its most spectacular meteor showers, the Quadrantids
14:31 A quarter of the world's freshwater animals are at risk of extinction
16:43 Facebook boss Mark Zuckerberg admits that his fact checkers are dishonest
20:28 CES has wrapped up in Las Vegas with lots of interesting gadgets
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Astrophysical Journal Letters
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8205](https://iopscience.iop.org/journal/2041-8205)
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This is Space Time, Series 28,
Episode 7, for broadcast on the

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15th of January, 2025. Coming up
on Space Time, could dark matter

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have shaped one of the Milky Way
galaxy's stellar streams? Our

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Sun emits three more powerful
solar flares all on the same

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day, and planet Earth
experiences a spectacular

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quadrant its meteor shower. All
that and more coming up on Space

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Time.

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Welcome to Space Time. With
Stuart Gary.

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Physicists have proposed a
solution to a long-standing

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puzzle surrounding the GD1
stellar stream, one of the

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best-studied streams of stars
within the Milky Way's galactic

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halo.

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The new research, reported in
the Astrophysical Journal

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Letters, proposes that a core
collapsing self-interacting dark

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matter sub-halo, that's a
smaller satellite halo within

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the galactic halo, could be
responsible for the strange spur

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and gap features observed in the
GD1 stellar stream. A stellar

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stream is a group of stars
moving collectively along a

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shared trajectory.

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A gap refers to a localized
under-density of stars along the

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stream while a spur is an
over-density of stars, extending

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outwards from the main body of
the stream. Since dark matter

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governs the motion of stellar
streams, astronomers can use

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these streams to trace invisible
dark matter in the galaxy.

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And this new research could have
significant implications for

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understanding the properties of
dark matter throughout the

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universe. The Milky Way's
galactic halo, a roughly

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spherical region surrounding the
galaxy, contains dark matter and

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extends well beyond the galaxy's
visible edge.

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Astronomers discovered that the
spur-and-gap features of the GD1

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stellar stream can't easily be
attributed to gravitational

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influences of known globular
clusters or satellite galaxies.

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But these features might be
explained by an unknown

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perturbing object, such as a
subhalo.

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The thing is, the object's
density would need to be

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significantly higher than what's
predicted by traditional cold

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dark matter subhalos. The study
's lead author, Hai-Bo Yu from

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the University Of California,
Riverside, says that these

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typically lack the sorts of
densities needed to produce the

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distinctive features observed in
the GD1 stream.

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However, the research
demonstrates that a collapsing,

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self-interacting dark matter
subhalo could achieve the

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necessary density. Now, such a
compact subhalo would need to be

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dense enough to exert the sorts
of gravitational influence

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required to account for the
observed perturbations in the

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GD1 stream.

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Mind you, scientists have no
idea what dark matter is. It

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can't be directly seen. They
know it exists because they can

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see its effect on regular
matter. And current estimates

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suggest dark matter makes up to
85% of all the matter in the

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universe.

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Cold dark matter, the prevailing
dark matter theory, assumes that

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dark matter particles are
collisionless. Self-interacting

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dark matter, a theoretical form
of dark matter, proposes that

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dark matter particles
self-interact through a new dark

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force.

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In their study, Yu and
colleagues used N-body numerical

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simulations to model the
behaviour of a collapsing

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self-interacting dark matter
sub-halo. Their findings

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therefore offer a new
explanation for the observed

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spur and gap features in the GD1
stream which have long been

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thought to indicate a close
encounter with some sort of

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dense object.

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Yu says in this new scenario,
the perturber is a

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self-interacting dark matter
sub-halo. Which is disrupting

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the spatial and velocity
distributions of the stars in

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the stream and creates the
distinctive features seen in the

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stream.

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Now, if correct, the discovery
also provides new insights into

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the very nature of this
mysterious substance called dark

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matter. This is Space-Time.
Still to come, the Sun emits

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three powerful solar flares all
on the one day, and we're in for

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a spectacular quadrant, its
meteor shower. All that and more

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still to come on Space-Time.

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Our local star the Sun has shown
its violent streak again,

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unleashing three significant
X-Class solar flares all on the

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same day. The flares were
categorised based on their

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intensity, with the first and
third classified as X1.1 flares,

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while the second was a more
powerful X1.5.

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X-Class flares represent the
highest intensity on the solar

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flare scale, with a logarithmic
numeric value further detailing

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their specific strength. The
three flares were detected by

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the Solar Ultraviolet Imager
operated by NOAA, the National

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Oceanographic And Atmospheric
Administration, America's

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Weather Bureau.

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Solar flares are powerful
eruptions of energy blasted out

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by the Sun. They're triggered by
snapping magnetic field lines

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emanating from sunspots on the
solar surface. Because the Sun's

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not a solid body, but a fluid,
different latitudes of the Sun

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rotate at different rates.

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And consequently, magnetic field
lines emanating from deep inside

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the Sun and travelling out
through the Sun's visible

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surface, the photosphere, are
twisted by this differential

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rotation. Eventually, the
twisting causes them to snap,

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and when they snap, they release
a solar flare.

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Now, if the solar flare is
pointed towards the Earth, it

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can't cause a lot of damage. It
can even destroy satellites and

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other spacecraft. It can also
shorten the life of orbiting

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spacecraft by causing Earth's
atmosphere to expand. That

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increases atmospheric drag and
consequently orbital decay,

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forcing a spacecraft to use more
fuel in order to maintain its

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operational orbit.

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It can disrupt... Radio
communications and navigation

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systems, impact power grids on
the ground causing blackouts,

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and they can increase an
astronaut's radiation exposure,

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posing a serious health hazard.

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In fact, even pilots, crew and
passengers in high-flying

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aircraft can get increased
radiation exposure when one of

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these space weather events
occurs. This increase in solar

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activity is all part of the Sun
's build-up to solar maximum,

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the peak of its current 11-year
solar cycle, which began back in

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November 2019.

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Once the Sun reaches solar max,
the crescendo of its violent

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outbursts, it will gradually
start to come down again until

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it reaches solar minimum, at
which point the Sun's polarity

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will flip. Its north pole will
become south and south pole

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north. This happens roughly
every 11 years, although the

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exact timing is still not fully
understood.

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This is Space-Time. Still to
come, the Quadrantids'meteor

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shower spectacular. And later in
the science report, a new study

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warns that a quarter of the
world's freshwater animals are

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now at risk of extinction. All
that and more still to come on

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Space Time.

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The Earth is currently
experiencing one of its most

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spectacular meteor showers, the
Quadrantids, which is lighting

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up the night sky with an array
of dazzling so-called shooting

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stars. Shooting stars, more
accurately meteors, are made up

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of dust and debris streams left
behind by passing comets and

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occasionally by asteroids.

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When the Earth's orbit around
the Sun happens to cross one of

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these streams, bits of dust and
debris end up falling into the

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Earth's atmosphere, causing them
to heat up due to friction with

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the air and eventually burn up.
Usually at altitudes of around

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80 kilometres, and sometimes
this can produce spectacular

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light shows.

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The Quadrantids themselves are
generated by debris from the

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near-Earth asteroid 1962-56-2003
EH1, which may actually be an

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extinct comet first noted by
Chinese astronomers in 1490.

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They're called the Quadrantids
because they appear to originate

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from a point in the sky called a
radiant, named after the defunct

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constellation Quadrans Morales.
Which is now part of the

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constellation Boötes near the
famous Plough Asterism.

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Observers enjoying dark skies
should see around 50 or more

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meteors an hour as the
Quadrantids reach their peak.

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The Royal Astronomical Society's
Deputy Director Robert Massey

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says sky watchers on the west
coast of the United States or in

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the Pacific could see as many as
70 or 80 meteors an hour,

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including some fireballs.

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Well, the Quadrantids meteors
are basically the result. With

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small pieces of debris coming
into the Earth's atmosphere at

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high speed. And by small, I mean
anything from grains of sand up

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to marble. It's not very big at
all. But they come in so fast,

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to 70 kilometers each second,
many times the speed of a

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bullet, that they heat the
atmosphere around them.

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And that hot air glows. And that
's what we see as a shooting

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star or a meteor. And typically,
they only last a fraction of a

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second. If you're very lucky,
you might see them lasting

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longer than that. But, you know,
normally they're very, very

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fleeting.

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Showers happen because the Earth
runs into a stream of debris

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rather than just random bits
coming in all over the sky. And

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that's what the quadrant is. It
's a shower that happens more or

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less at the same time every
year.

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It's associated with a
particular part in the sky, and

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that's because the Earth is
running into a particular stream

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of debris. Now, the name comes
from the fact that it's

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associated with the now defunct
constellation Quadrans Morales,

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which basically means a quadrant
mounted on a building. And this

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was a constellation that was...

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Created as many were in the 17th
and 18th centuries, but it

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wasn't adopted in the present
day. It's actually in the part

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of the sky between Earth's
major, which includes the

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planet, all of you are familiar
with that, the UK, and the

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constellation of Boötes, the
Earth's space. It's in that

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region of the sky, not far from
the pole star.

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The Quadrantids are unusual in
that they appear to be

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associated, not necessarily, but
maybe in extinct, with an

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asteroid. 2003 EH1, which means
it was discovered in 2003. Now

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it passes reasonably near the
Earth, it's a near-Earth object.

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We appear to be running into a
trail of debris associated with

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it. So the thinking is that
might actually be in spin

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clouds, so no longer anything
generated in time. Doesn't look

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like a comet these days, just
looks like a dot on even images

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on the wall from the largest
telescopes.

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But 500 years ago there was a
comet seen, in 1490, more than

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500 years ago, it was seen by
the Chinese and it may be

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connected to that. Maybe this
comet was once active, it's left

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a lot of debris and nobody
around the surface, which the

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Earth runs into this year, that
leads to the quadratus aeateus.

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Well the quadratus is not
active.

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To meet your showers going they
have a pretty strong intensity

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if you happen to be in the right
place right now so if you are on

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the west coast the us and
Pacific region you could see

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maybe 70 or 80 an hour if you're
in the UK you're going to see

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somewhat fewer than that or is
it's likely that's the case but

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but but it's still a strong
shower the great advantage this

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year is the moon isn't
interfering with it you haven't

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got to film the sky it's very
thin and crusty that means the

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light from the moon will not be
a big problem If you get out to

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the city into a dark place, away
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have a chance maybe of seeing up
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hour, maybe realistically
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They won't be the brightest
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does include a fair number of
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sand, you think, which really
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meteor. The Quadrantids is a
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So for that reason alone, if you
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the weather is good. Then do
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thing about a meteor shower is
that you don't need any special

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equipment. You just basically
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If you have a telescope or
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a meteor shower, you're going to
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be seeing it until it comes to
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go in. Be prepared to wait
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the sky. They could be anywhere
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look up, look at the sky, get an
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the lights of towns and cities
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patient, don't go outside and if
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five minutes be disappointed. I
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it maybe half an hour, you'd be
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Photographing meteor showers
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your, say like our phone camera,
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unlikely to capture anything
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only last perhaps a fraction of
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going to be good enough to
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So what people tend to do what
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long exposures. So they open the
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shutter, depending on how you
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like a phone, and leave it
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least in total, as a period of
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meeting is coming. So you need a
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you do it well, And I guess
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from the next place to do this.
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sophisticated digital camera.

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We'll see a star trip, because
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Earth to the moon, and the stars
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because they appear to move. And
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see streaks of light, bright
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those would be the quantities.

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So it's not as simple as, say,
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taking a picture of the Northern
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read up on it before hand. Don't
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think it'll be a struggle. But
if you've got the right kind of

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set up, a decent tripod and
ability to open up your camera

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for a long period of time, then
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That's the Deputy Director of
the Royal Astronomical Society,

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Dr Robert Massey. And this is
Space Time.

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And time now to take another
brief look at some of the other

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stories making use in science
this week with a science report.

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A new study warns that a quarter
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animals are now at risk of
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reported in the journal Nature
are based on a study of more

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than 23,000 fish, crustaceans
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Scientists classified the
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finding 24% were vulnerable or
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of high-risk freshwater mammals.
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However, the two groups have
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different threats, with those in
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pollution, dams, water
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invasive species. The authors
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group of animals should also be
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forms of freshwater management.

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A new study has confirmed that
eating a diet of plant-based

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foods could help increase your
microbiome that favours human

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health. A report in the journal
Nature Microbiology looked into

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the diets of over 21,500 people
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microbiomes were present
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intestines. The authors then
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against vegetarians and against
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ate high amounts of healthy
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had larger colonies of good
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Those related to good health
compared to their peers. A new

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study has shown that all that
scrolling and posting you're

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doing might well end up causing
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irritable.

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A report in the Journal Of The
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surveyed over 40,000 people
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and the potential effect it has
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that people who frequently use
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who post it frequently, scored
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irritability test compared to
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infrequent user peers.

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Now, this kind of study can't
prove that your hours of

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doom-scrolling are directly
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the light of known associations
of irritability and mental

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health issues, maybe you should
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little more.

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Well, there's been massive news
in technology this week, with

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Facebook boss Mark Zuckerberg
admitting what we've been

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telling you for years.
Fact-checkers can't be trusted

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with the truth. They're
dishonest and they lie to push a

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political agenda.

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From the corrupt and
scientifically stupid

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fact-checkers of YouTube through
to the socialist fact-checkers

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of the RMIT Fact Lab, never
trust what they say, always do

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your own research, and always go
to the original source.

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The Babylon Bee probably put it
best when they wrote that the

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guy who said Facebook was not
suppressing free speech has now

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announced that Facebook will
stop suppressing free speech.

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With the details, we're joined
by technology editor Alex

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Saharov-Reut from
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It was very surprising to see
Mark Zuckerberg with his fairly

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curly hair coming out and saying
on video that he was getting rid

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of fact checkers.

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Zuckerberg's admitted that his
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And he was going to implement
community notes in a system that

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's similar to X, which does
appear to be the fairest system.

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The whole idea is that people
are picking up on other people

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and you're not relying upon the
single source of truth, be it

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the government or RMIT,
university, you know.

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Socialist scumbag fact-checkers
who are trying to sat down all

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sorts of views that don't align
with their views. And Mark

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Zuckerberg is doing this because
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political skin.

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Well, of course, Zuckerberg
admitted that he was taking

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instructions from the White
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Well, in one sense, he would
have probably not had much

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choice. He would have become a
bit of an enemy himself. But the

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thing is, Mark Zuckerberg did
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given the fact he's had a
20-year apology tour, I don't

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trust Mark Zuckerberg. And for
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say that he's finally done it,
but probably a bit. 20 years too

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late.

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And of course, when it comes to
trust, Apple have had to do a

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big about-face. $95 million in
payouts after it was found that

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Siri really was listening in.
Yes.

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Now, the problem here is that
whether it's Google, whether it

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's Amazon Alexa or Siri, if you
say, hey, Siri, or Siri, or the

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wake word, then the system is
listening. And the problem is

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that when the system thinks it
has heard the word Siri because

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you said sorry, or because you
said some other word that

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sounded like that, it starts
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Now, modern systems...

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That's not terrible if you run
an Indian clothing store.

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Well, what about Tom Cruise's
daughter, Suri? Oh, and I've

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heard the same sort of story for
young people called, you know,

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young girls called Alexa in
school. All their friends are

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like, Alexa, do this and do
that. And ha ha, it's very

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funny. But clearly, the drug
does wear off after a while.

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But the thought reason is that
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normally are not direct, where
you're giving the assistant an

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instruction, what was happening
is that the system would listen

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and it would then send these
conversations off to...

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Humans to listen and try and
figure out and try and train the

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system to do better. Now,
sometimes people were being

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recorded making love or having
arguments or getting beaten up,

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even murders and private
business information was being

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unveiled. And that's why some
people refuse to have any smart

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speakers in their home.

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I turned Siri off. Yeah. Well,
it is also possible to have Siri

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only be activated by pushing the
button on the side of your

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phone. I use Siri a lot. I use
it to set appointments and make

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calls and set timers and remind
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So it does have its uses.

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And you can tell your systems
now, they've brought this in

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over the past couple of years,
to not send your recordings, not

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share your recordings with
Apple. So I never want my

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recordings to be shared or any
of the diagnostic information. I

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always turn that off because I'm
worried about it too.

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Anyway, this lawsuit... Saw
Apple not admitting any

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liability. And it's hard to know
how they're going to avoid this

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in the future. I do know that if
I say, hey, Siri, oh, Siri, that

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another iPhone I have lights up
for a second, but instantly it

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turns off because it knows that
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And it was just sort of an
accidental wake word. So this is

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a problem where we need to trust
the companies to do what they

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say they're going to do. And if
not, they'll get caught out by

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some enterprising hacker. Find
hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Trusting companies is like
trusting governments, mate.

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They're famous last words. CES
has wrapped up in Las Vegas once

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again. Lots of gadgets. How many
of them do we really need is the

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big question, but there've been
some fantastic products as well,

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such as what NVIDIA are doing.

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Yeah, they've launched a whole
series of updates to their AI

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tips, the ones that we use when
we talk to chat VPT, but also

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launched a $3,000 supercomputer
that you can hold in your hand,

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a bit like an Apple Mac mini
that's meant to have... 1,000

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times the power of your existing
laptop computer.

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And although most people are not
using a computer powered by an

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NVIDIA chip to do their
computing, many people do have

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an NVIDIA graphics card. And
some of the graphics card

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capabilities, I mean, we will
soon have movies that look quite

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realistically human that are
completely designed on a

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computer.

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And it's going to put certain
actors and actresses out of

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work. If you don't have to have
humans and it can all be done by

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a computer, why not? But that's
just one of the many things

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there. BMW, who launched their
IDrive 24 years ago, there's a

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little system and a screen. Now
the entire windscreen,

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windshield, can be a display.

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One giant heads-up display, just
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That's right. And that'll keep,
they said, your eyes on the road

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and your hands on the wheel.
There was a concept of a system,

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like a mirror that you stood on.
It could weigh you, it could

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look at your weight, your
height, your heart.

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In metabolic health, I mean,
like a giant tricorder,

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Roborock, one of the vacuum
cleaner makers where the vacuum

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cleaner scurry around your
house, finds a teddy bear or

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something in the way, normally
it stops or has to go around it.

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With this particular robot, an
arm pops out of the top of the

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unit and it can physically lift
items out of the way. Oh, like

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the Jetsons. Yeah, it rose as a
robot.

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And like Jensen Huang did at one
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he had a whole stack of robots
behind him that just rose out of

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the stage. Well, he did it again
at CES. He had all these robots

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that just popped out. From
behind him. And these robots are

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incredibly advanced. There was
even a robot that's sort of the

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size of a child that was filmed
wandering around CES, walking

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quite naturally.

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So the age of the robot truly is
upon us. And the trick will be

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to get them to the price of
smartphones. You know, if you

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can afford to buy a robot that
can mind the kids, watch

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predictors, do various things
around the home for you, and it

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's around the cost of a mobile
phone, who wouldn't get one?

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Elon Musk sees a market... For
millions of them, at least one

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for every human in the future.
There are plenty of cool things,

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smart glasses that can have a
little 3.5-inch monochrome

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display that you're looking at,
that can also have an AI agent

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that's listening to
conversations, answering

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questions during meetings, doing
live translations.

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That's technology editor Alex
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TechAdvice.life.

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