Van Allen’s New Belts, Alien Oceans and Life, and Massive Black Hole Jets Uncovered: S28E22
SpaceTime Series 28 Episode 22
The Astronomy, Space and Science News Podcast
New Van Allen Radiation Belts, Alien Oceans and Signs of Life, and the Largest Black Hole Radio Jet Ever Detected
In this episode of SpaceTime, we uncover the discovery of two new temporary Van Allen radiation belts created by a massive solar storm that struck Earth in May 2024. This event not only produced stunning auroras but also highlighted the importance of understanding the dynamics of radiation belts for the safety of satellites and astronauts. The findings, reported by NASA's Colorado Inner Radiation Belt Experiment, reveal that these belts can last significantly longer than previously thought, with implications for future solar storms and spaceflight safety.
Searching for Life in Alien Oceans
We also explore the challenges of detecting signs of extraterrestrial life in the subsurface oceans of icy moons like Saturn's Enceladus. A new study suggests that the unique physics of these oceans could hinder the movement of biological signatures from deep waters to the surface, complicating the search for life beyond Earth. This research emphasizes the need to understand ocean dynamics in the search for life in our solar system.
The Largest Black Hole Radio Jet in the Early Universe
Additionally, astronomers have identified the largest radio jet ever seen in the early universe, spanning an astonishing 200,000 light years. This discovery sheds light on the formation of massive jets and quasars, providing crucial insights into the evolution of galaxies in the early cosmos. The quasar, which formed when the universe was just 9% of its current age, challenges previous assumptions about the conditions needed for such powerful jets to form.
00:00 Space Time Series 28 Episode 22 for broadcast on 19 February 2025
00:49 Discovery of new Van Allen radiation belts
06:30 Implications of the May solar storm
12:15 Challenges in detecting life in Enceladus's oceans
18:00 The significance of ocean dynamics in extraterrestrial life searches
22:45 The largest black hole radio jet ever observed
27:00 Understanding quasars and their impact on galaxy evolution
30:15 The implications of AI self-replication
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00:00 - Space Time Series 28 Episode 22 for broadcast on 19 February 2025
00:49 - Discovery of new Van Allen radiation belts
06:30 - Implications of the May solar storm
12:15 - Challenges in detecting life in Enceladus’s oceans
18:00 - The significance of ocean dynamics in extraterrestrial life searches
22:45 - The largest black hole radio jet ever observed
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this is spacetime series 28 episode 22
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for broadcast on the 19th of February
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2025 coming up on SpaceTime new Van
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Allen radiation belts discovered around
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the earth could an alien ocean hide
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signs of alien life and the largest
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black hole radio jet ever seen in the
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early Universe all that and more coming
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up on
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SpaceTime welcome to SpaceTime with
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Stuart Gary
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[Music]
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the largest solar storm in more than two
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decades hit planet Earth back in May
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2024 for several days wave after wave of
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high energy charged particles from the
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Sun slammed into our planet brilliant
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auroral activity engulf the sky and
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navigation and communication systems
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were temporarily disrupted with the help
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of a serendipitously resurrected small
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NASA satellite scientists discovered
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that this storm also created two new
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temporary radiation belts of intense
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energetic particles encircling the Earth
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the findings are important helping
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scientists better understand how future
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solar storms could impact our technology
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the new builts formed between two others
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that permanently surround the earth
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called the Van Allen radiation belts
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shaped like concentric Rings above the
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earth's equator these permanent belts
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are composed of a mix of high energy
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electrons and protons that are trapped
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in place by the Earth's magnetic field
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the high energy electrons and protons
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that have found their way into Earth's
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in a magnetic environment in these belts
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can damage spacecraft and affect the
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health of astronauts who pass through
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them so understanding their Dynamics is
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key to Safe space flight the discovery
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of the two new built reported in the
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journal geophysical research space
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physics was achieved by NASA's Colorado
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in a radiation built experiment
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spacecraft it's especially important for
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protecting satellites launched into
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geostationary orbits since they need a
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travel through the Van Allen radiation
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belt several times before reaching their
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final orbital position temporary
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radiation belts have been detected in
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the aftermath of large solar storms
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before but while previous belts have
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been composed mostly of electrons the
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innermost of the two new belts also
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includes energetic protons this unique
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composition is likely due to the extreme
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strength and composition of the mace
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solar storm the study's lead author
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Jinan Lee from the University of
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Colorado Boulder says the new belt
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seemed to have lasted much longer than
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previous belts did whereas previous
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temporary belts lasted around 4 weeks
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the new belt composed primarily of
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electrons lasted more than 3 months and
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the other belt which also included the
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protons lasted much longer than the
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electron belt because it was in a more
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stable region and therefore less prone
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to the sorts of physical processes which
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can knock particles out of orbit as to
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how long such belts stick around well
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that depends on solar storms large
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storms can provide the energy to knock
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particles in these belts out of their
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orbits and send them spiraling either
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off into space or down towards the Earth
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One such storm at the end of June
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significantly decreased the size of the
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new electron built and another in August
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nearly totally erased the remainder of
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that electron built though a small
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population of high energy electrons
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endured NASA's Colorado in a radiation
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build experiment spacecraft is a cube
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set about the size of a shoe box which
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circled the planet's magnetic poles in
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low earth orbit between April 2023 and
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October
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2024 it carried an instrument called the
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relativistic electron proton telescope
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integrated little Experiment 2 or
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reptile 2 for short it's a miniaturized
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and upgraded version of an instrument
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that first flew aboard NASA's Van Allen
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probes which made the first discovery of
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temporary electron belts back in
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2013 after a year in Space the cube set
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experienced an anomaly in unexpected
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went silent on April the 5th 2024 now
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the study's authors were disappointed to
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miss the solar storm in May but they
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were able to rely on other spacecraft to
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provide some preliminary data on the
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electron build luckily on June the 15th
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the spacecraft suddenly sprang back into
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life and resume taking measurements the
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data provided high resolution
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information that simply couldn't be
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gleaned by any other instrument and it
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allowed scientists to better understand
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the total magnitude of these new builds
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but having the cube set in orbit to
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measure the effect of the solar storm
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has been somewhat Bittersweet while it
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provided the opportunity to measure the
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effects of a large event the storm also
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increased atmospheric drag on the cube
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set causing increased orbital Decay and
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resulting in the cube set deorbiting in
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October
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2024 this is spacetime still to come
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could an alien ocean hide signs of alien
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life and the largest black hole radio
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jet ever observed in the early Universe
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all that and more still to come on
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SpaceTime
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[Music]
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time a new study warns that searching
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for signs of alien life in an alien
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ocean may be more difficult than
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previously thought even if you're able
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to sample the Extraterrestrial Waters a
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new study focusing on the saturnian ice
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moon Enceladus which is ejects water
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from its subsurface Global ocean through
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cracks and its icy crust has found that
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the physics of alien oceans could
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prevent evidence of deep sea life ever
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reaching places where we could detect it
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a report in the journal Communications
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and Earth environment shows how
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Enceladus as oceans form distinct layers
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that dramatically slow the movement of
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material from the ocean floor to the
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surface chemical traces microbes and
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organic material tilil signatures of
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life that scientists look for could
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break down or transform as they travel
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through the ocean's distinct layers and
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so these biological signatures may
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become unrecognizable by the time they
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reach the surface where a spacecraft can
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sample them even if life is thriving in
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the deep ocean below the study's lead
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author Flynn Ames from the University of
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reading says it's a bit like trying to
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detect life at the depths of Earth's
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Oceans by only sampling water at the
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surface and that's the challenge
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scientists face with Enceladus except
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they're also dealing with an ocean whose
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physics aren't fully understood aim says
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pre previous studies suggest that an
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inscan ocean should behave like oil and
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water in a jar with distinct layers that
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resist vertical mixing and these natural
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barriers could trap particles and the
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chemical traces of life in the depths
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below for hundreds to hundreds of
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thousands of years now previously it was
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thought that these things could make
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their way efficiently and quickly to the
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ocean's surface within just a few months
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the new study has important implications
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for the search for life in our solar
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system and beyond as scientists discover
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C more and more ice covered ocean worlds
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orbiting the outer planets and even
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eventually around distant Stars similar
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ocean Dynamics could confine evidence of
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ocean life and its building blocks
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exclusively to deeper waters therefore
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making them undetectable from the
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surface even on WS like Enceladus where
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Ocean material is conveniently spread
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into space for sampling the long journey
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from deep ocean to the surface could
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erase crucial evidence this report on
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the oceans of Enceladus from NASA TV
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in February 2005 we had our first close
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flyby of
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Enceladus and the magnetometer signal
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saw something
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unusual what a magnetometer does is it
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measures the magnetic field in the
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vicinity of the instrument we had to
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look at The Wiggles and they looked
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strange the magnetic field of Saturn is
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moving towards it and it couldn't
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penetrate down onto the surface which
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was pointing to an atmospheric signature
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of some kind here it looked like it had
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a tiny
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atmosphere in March we came even closer
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looking for that same strange signal
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what it showed was that the the
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signature the atmospheric signature we
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were seeing was focused at the South
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Pole it was almost like there was a
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cometary plume of water vapor coming off
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from the South Pole people were saying
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it's got to be Jets it's got to be Jets
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and the iming team was saying no no no
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we don't want to say that you know until
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we're sure so we went closer we came
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within 175 km of Enceladus then we got
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the data back and it was spectacular and
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then we found the evidence geysers
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coming out of the South Pole with water
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vapor and water ice particles there were
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active geysers at the South Pole of
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Enceladus because we were so close all
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of the other instruments were able to
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take really good data and we put
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together all of this data we saw the
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cracks the tiger stripes of the South
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Pole we saw heat leaking out from these
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tiger stripes on subsequent flybys we
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found organic material dust water vapor
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coming out of the plume the cassin
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discoveries in the first three flybys
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were so amazing we changed our focus and
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added 20 more flybys of Enceladus
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including seven through the icy Jets the
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surprising magnetometer reading led us
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to the liquid water ocean underneath
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enceladus's icy
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crust after over a decade of research
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with Cassini we now know there's a
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potential for the ocean on Enceladus to
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support life and that has altered the
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way we think about where life might be
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found in our own solar system and in the
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worlds
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Beyond and in that report from Nessa TV
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we heard from Cassini project scientist
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Linda spilker and Cassini magnetometer
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principal investigator Michelle doy this
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is spacetime still to come the largest
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black hole radio jet ever seen in the
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early universe and later in the science
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report artificial intelligence may have
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just crossed a crucial Red Line
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demonstrating how it can survive by
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cloning itself does it mean we've
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reached Singularity all that and more
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still to come on SpaceTime
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astronomers have discovered the largest
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radio jet emanating from a black hole
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ever detected in the early Universe this
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monster jet spans at least 200,000 light
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years and was formed when the universe
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was less than 10% of its current age
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from Decades of astronomical
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observations astronomers know that most
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galaxies contain super massive black
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holes at their centers as matter falls
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into these monsters it first forms an
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accretion disc around the black hole
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where material is crushed and ripped
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apart now most of this will eventually
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pass beyond a point of no return called
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The Event Horizon Beyond which it falls
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forever into the black hole
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Singularity but some of this matter and
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energy is swept up in powerful magnetic
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fields before it reaches the Event
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Horizon it's then flung out into space
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perpendicular to the black o of creation
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disc forming massive superluminal Jets
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called quazars objects so bright they
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can be seen across on the other side of
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the universe and quazar can be seen
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right across the electromagnetic
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spectrum with some of the most distant
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being seen in x-rays these Jets can also
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be detected with radio telescopes and
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locally these radio jets are not
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uncommon with a small fraction being
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found in nearby galaxies but they've
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remained elusive in the distant early
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Universe until now you using a
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combination of telescopes astronomers
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have discovered a distant T radio jet
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that spans an astonishing 200,000 light
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years at least that's twice the size of
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our own Milky Way galaxy in fact this is
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the largest radio jet ever found in the
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early Universe it was first identified
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using the international low frequency
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array loar a network of radio telescopes
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acting as an interferometer spread
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across Europe follow up observations of
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the near infrared using the Gemini near
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infrared spectrograph and in the optical
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with a hobby Elby telescope were then
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obtained in order to paint a more
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complete picture of the radio jet and
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the quaza which produced it the
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discovery reported in the astrophysical
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journal letters is crucial to getting
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more insight into the timing and
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mechanisms behind the formation of the
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first large scale jets in our universe
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the studies lead author Anique gemman
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from the National Science Foundation
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says the researchers were looking for
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quazars with strong radio jets in the
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early Universe in order to help
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scientists better understand when the
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first shets were formed and how they
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would have impacted the evolution of
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galaxies determining the properties of
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the quaza such as its mass and the red
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at which it's consuming matter is
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necessary for understanding its
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formation and history to measure these
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parameters the authors looked for a
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specific wave length of light emitted by
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quazars known as the Magnesium broad
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emission line now normally this signal
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would appear at ultraviolet wavelengths
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however owing to the expansion of the
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universe through space time the light of
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the quazer is stretched to longer and
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longer wavelength and so the Magnesium
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signal from aazar at this distance
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arrives at Earth in the near infrared
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wavelength range where it can be
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detected with the Gemini near infrared
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spectrograph the quaza named j61 plus
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3102 formed when the universe was less
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than 1.2 billion years old just 9% of
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its current age well quazar can of mass
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is billions of times greater than that
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of our sun this is a small one weighing
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just 450 million solar masses the double
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Ed Jets appear asymmetrical in both
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brightness and the distance they stretch
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from the quazar that suggests an extreme
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environment may be affecting them gemman
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says the quazars powering these massive
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radio Jets don't have an extreme black
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hole Mass compared to other quazars this
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seems to indicate that you don't
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necessarily need an exceptionally
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massive black hole or a cretion rate for
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that matter to generate such powerful
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jets in the early Universe the previous
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dir of large radio jets in the early
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Universe had been attributed to noise
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from the cosmic microwave background
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radiation the everpresent fog of
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microwave radiation left over from The
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Big Bang 13.8 billion years ago this
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persistent background radiation would
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normally diminish radio light from such
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distant objects it's only because this
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object's so extreme that gemman and
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colleagues were able to observe it now
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scientists still have a multitude of
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questions about how such radio bright
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quers like this one differ from other
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quazars it remains unclear exactly what
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circumstances are needed to create such
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powerful radio Jets or for that matter
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when the first radio jets in the
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universe were formed this is
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spacetime and time now to take another
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brief look at some of the other stories
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making news and science this week with a
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science report a new study warns that
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patients taking MTI that's the active
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ingredient in a zic and wovi may be at a
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higher risk of developing an eye
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condition that can cause blindness a
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report in the Journal of the American
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Medical Association has found a link
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between stide and non-arteritic anterior
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ischemic Optical neuropathy which is a
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blockage of blood flow to the optic
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nerve resulting in sudden blindness this
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is the first study to report an
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association between setite and blindness
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the American Academy of Opthalmology
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says if patients are already taking
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magnatite and have not experienced any
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symptoms they should continue to do so
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as instructed and discuss any questions
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or concerns with their Primary Health
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caregiver AIC and wovi are used
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primarily to treat diabetes but they've
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become popular for their secondary use
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as a weight control
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method a report on the prepress physics
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website archive.org claims artificial
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intelligence is now crossed a critical
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Red Line demonstrating how two popular
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large language models can clone
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themselves
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the successful self-replication of
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artificial intelligence without any
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human assistance is the essential step
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for AIS to outsmart humans making it an
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early signal for rogue AI scientists
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wanted to determine whether
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self-replicating AIS could multiply
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beyond control over some 10 trials two
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AI models created separate and
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functioning replicas of themselves in 50
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and 90% of cases respectively that
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suggests that AIS already have the
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capacity to go Rogue the develop
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self-awareness and autonomy in other
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words it means AIS have achieved
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Singularity self-awareness being one of
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the Key signs of a unique and separate
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life form for the tests the authors used
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meta's llama 317b instruct model and
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alibaba's Q and 2.5 72b inst stract
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model both of which are already widely
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used by AI developers the studies
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explored shutdown avoidance and chain
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replication seeing if the AI was able to
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detect that it was about to be shut down
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and was then able to replicate itself
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before being terminated meanwhile a
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second study instructed the AI to clone
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itself and then program its replica to
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do the same setting up a cycle which
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could continue indefinitely researchers
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found the artificial intelligence would
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first explore its environment in order
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to understand its composition and
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running mechanism it then would develop
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a self-replication plan resolving any
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issues without any human help the
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authors were also concerned about a
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number of unexpected behaviors when the
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AI was trying to overcome obstacles like
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missing files or software conflicts in
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these scenarios the AI often killed
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other conflicting processors rebooted
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the system to fix Hardware errors or
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automatically scan the system to look
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for information that would help it
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resolve a problem the findings show that
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current large language AI systems
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already exhibit an ability to
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self-replicate and can use this ability
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to enhance their own
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survivability meanwhile researchers have
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also developed a new AI logorithm called
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Talk clustering that can significantly
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improve how AI systems independently
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learn and uncover patents in data
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without any human guidance torque
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clustering can effectively and
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autonomously analyze vast amounts of
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data in fields such as biology chemistry
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astronomy physiology finance and
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Medicine revealing new insights such as
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detecting disease patterns uncovering
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fraud or understanding Behavior you can
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read the full report on this truly
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autonomous AI in the journal I
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transactions and patent analysis and
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machine
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intelligence Samsung have now released
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their new AI equipped Galaxy 25 in
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Australia bringing Star Trek's Next
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Generation a step closer to reality with
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the details we're joined by technology
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editor Alex saharov Roy from Tech
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advice. life ultimately this is the
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phone that is buil as your first AI
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companion where you have this element of
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a gentic AI where you can ask your phone
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by voice to do things for you across a
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range of different apps so this is sort
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of like Star Trek where Jean L Bard says
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computer then he asks a question yes
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that's right and the computer then is
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able to do a series of tasks I mean at
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the moment when you talk to Siri or
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Google assistant or Alexa it can answer
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questions it can set calendar
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appointments it can ring somebody it can
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take a note but if you were to ask it to
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uh look at a certain YouTube video
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extract all the main points out of it
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and give you a summary and put that into
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your notes well only Samsung's phone can
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currently do that you can do a manual
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you can copy and paste the transcript of
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a YouTube video you can download the
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YouTube video with one of the many
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programs that can do that then you can
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get another program to turn that voice
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into text and then give you a transcript
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or a summary so it's possible to do all
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of those things manually but to have it
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happen for you on an automated basis is
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very cool I mean you're giving a command
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and the AI is working across multiple
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apps to deliver you a result and one of
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the things that's built in to this s25
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series is Gemini that's Google's version
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of chat G and so when you're speaking to
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your phone you are speaking to it in a
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human-like Manner and is responding to
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you in a humanlike manner now anybody
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can download Gemini onto their existing
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Android phone you can even download it
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to your iPhone but on the Samsung s25
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range it is then able to work with a
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select number of Samsung apps like
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calendar and notes and then also with
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WhatsApp and Spotify and we're going to
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see many more apps be compatible with
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this ability to interact with it by
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voice get it to do something for you
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process some information dump the
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results somewhere else and it's all
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happened just by asking look I can't let
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you go without asking you about the news
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that AI can now self-replicate that's
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got to be frightening well I mean this
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is something that I don't know it
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defines uh what life is I mean to be
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able to replicate is uh something that
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uh all life forms would want and it's
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interesting that with AI when they've
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asked AI in these safety scenarios to
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hide itself to keep keep alive at all
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costs in this enclosed environment the
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AI has pretended to you know restore it
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to an earlier version It's said that it
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is an earlier version when it's not it's
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copied itself to different areas of a
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Computing system to hide itself it's
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like the old Asimov story where somebody
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told one of the robots they were working
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on to get lost and the robot then did
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and it was very difficult to find where
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this robot wasn't of course asal's
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protagonist had different ways of
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figuring out which was the Rogue robot
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that was you know too closely following
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the instructions but given the life
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replicates itself on a regular basis
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just not surprised that an AI figured
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out how to do it too that's Alex Sahara
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Ro from take advice.
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