Uranus’ Rotational Secrets Revealed, ISS Welcomes New Crew
Exploring Uranus's Rotational Secrets, New Crew at the ISS, and the Dangers of Space Travel
In this episode of SpaceTime, we delve into groundbreaking measurements of Uranus's rotational rate, achieved with unprecedented accuracy by NASA's Hubble Space Telescope. This new technique, which analyzed over a decade of observations of the planet's auroras, provides essential insights into Uranus's complex atmosphere and magnetic field, establishing a vital reference point for future planetary studies.
A New Crew Arrives at the International Space Station
Next, we cover the arrival of a new crew aboard the International Space Station, as the Russian Soyuz MS-27 spacecraft successfully docks with the orbiting outpost. The crew, consisting of two Russians and an American, will spend eight months conducting over 200 experiments and performing maintenance on the station.
The Dangers of Going into Space
Additionally, we discuss the various dangers associated with human spaceflight, including the effects of microgravity on the human body, radiation exposure, and the physical challenges astronauts face during long-duration missions. Experts from NASA highlight the ongoing research to ensure astronaut safety as humanity prepares for deeper space exploration.
00:00 Space Time Series 28 Episode 47 for broadcast on 18 April 2025
00:49 Hubble's measurements of Uranus's rotational rate
06:30 Implications for future planetary research
12:15 New crew arrival at the ISS aboard Soyuz MS-27
18:00 Overview of the crew's mission and experiments
22:45 Dangers of human spaceflight and health impacts
27:00 Summary of recent space exploration news
30:15 Science report: Lab-grown meat flavor innovations
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00:00 - Space Time Series 28 Episode 47 for broadcast on 18 April 2025
00:49 - Hubble’s measurements of Uranus’s rotational rate
06:30 - Implications for future planetary research
12:15 - New crew arrival at the ISS aboard Soyuz MS-27
18:00 - Overview of the crew’s mission and experiments
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this is Spacetime Series 28 episode 47
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for broadcast on the 18th of April
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2025 coming up on Spaceime Hubble helps
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determine the rotational rate of the
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planet Uranus a new crew arrives at the
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International Space Station and we look
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at the dangers of going into space all
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that and more coming up on Spaceime
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welcome to Spaceime with Stuart Garry
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[Music]
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astronomers using NASA's Hubble Space
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Telescope have made new measurements of
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the planet Uranus's rotational rate with
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a thousand times more accuracy than
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previous estimates the findings reported
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in the journal Nature were made using a
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new novel technique which analyzed more
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than a decade of Hubble observations of
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Uranus's auroral activities the research
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is important because it establishes a
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crucial new reference point for future
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planetary studies uranus is the seventh
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most distant planet from the sun it's a
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gaseous cyan colored ice giant slightly
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larger than its sister planet Neptune
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most of Uranus is composed of water
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ammonia and methane in a superc critical
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phase of matter which astronomers call
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ices or volatiles the planet's
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atmosphere has a complex layered cloud
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structure and it has the lowest minimum
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temperature in the solar system just 49
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Kelvin that's
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-224° C uranus takes 84 Earth years to
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complete one orbit around the sun but
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its most notable feature has always been
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its axial tilt some 82.23°
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23° in other words it's almost rotating
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on its side even more amazing that
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rotation is retrograde the opposite way
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to where most of the other planets in
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the solar system rotate now because it
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orbits the sun on its side it means that
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each of its poles are getting around 42
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Earth years of continuous sunlight
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followed by a further 42 Earth years of
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continuous darkness uranus is the third
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largest diameter and the fourth largest
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mass among the solar systems planets now
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based on current models inside its
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volatile mantle layer is a rocky core
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surrounded by a thick hydrogen and
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helium atmosphere trace amounts of
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hydrocarbons thought to be produced
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through hydraysis and carbon monoxide
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along with carbon dioxide thought to
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have originated from comets have been
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detected in the planet's upper
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atmosphere there are many unexplained
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climate phenomena in Uranus's atmosphere
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such as its peak wind speed of 900 km an
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hour variations in its polar cap and
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erratic cloud formations the planet also
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has very low internal heat compared to
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the other giant planets the cause of
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this remains somewhat unclear
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determining any planet's rotational rate
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is challenging especially for a world
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like Uranus where direct measurements
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simply aren't possible so the authors
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developed an innovative method to track
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the rotational motion of Uranus's
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auroral activity the spectacular light
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displays generated in the upper
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atmosphere by the influx of energetic
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particles near the planet's magnetic
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poles this technique revealed that
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Uranus completes a full rotation in 17
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hours 14 minutes and 52 seconds now
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that's 28 seconds longer than the best
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estimate obtained by NASA's Voyager 2
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spacecraft during its flyby of the
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planet back in 1986
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the study's lead author Loren Lami from
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the Paris Observatory says these new
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measurements not only provide an
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essential reference for planetary
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scientists but also solves a
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long-standing issue the fact that
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previous coordinate systems based on the
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outdated rotational periods quickly
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became inaccurate making it impossible
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to track Uranus's magnetic poles over
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time but with this new longitudinal
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system astronomers will now be able to
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compare auroral observations spanning
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nearly 40 years and even plan for an
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upcoming Uranus mission the breakthrough
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was made possible thanks to Hubble's
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long-term monitoring of Uranus over more
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than a decade Hubble Space Telescope
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regularly observed its ultraviolet
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auroral missions enabling researchers to
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track the position of its magnetic poles
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with magnetic field models without
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Hubble's continuous observations it
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would have been impossible to detect the
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periodic signals with the level of
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accuracy needed see unlike the aurora of
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Earth Jupiter or Saturn Uranus's aurora
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behave in a unique and unpredictable
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manner this is due to the planet's
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highly tilted magnetic field which is
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significantly offset from its rotational
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axis the findings are not only helping
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astronomers better understand Uranus's
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magnetosphere but they'll also help
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provide vital information for a future
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Uranus mission the planetary science
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decal survey has already prioritized a
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NASA backed Uranus orbiter and probe
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mission for future planetary exploration
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this report from NASA TV
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uranus is the seventh planet from the
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sun and the third largest planet in the
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solar
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system it also may have the coldest
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interior emitting far less heat than its
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counterparts Jupiter Saturn and Neptune
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it is known as an ice giant because it
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contains more ices including water
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methane and ammonia than Jupiter or
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Saturn and while NASA's learned a great
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deal about this planet over the last
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three decades there's a lot more waiting
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to be
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discovered back in 1986 NASA's Voyager 2
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spacecraft flew by Uranus making it the
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first and only spacecraft to visit this
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distant
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planet previous observations showed that
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Uranus has a unique tilt of its axis so
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it rotates almost on its side causing
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its poles to actually face the sun no
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other planet in our solar system has
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this
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feature in its quick sprint past Uranus
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Voyager discovered 10 new moons orbiting
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the planet that had not been seen before
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and in the decades since even more have
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been found during its encounter Voyager
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also saw new faint rings and explored
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the complex magnetosphere
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voyager only briefly viewed the planet's
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five major moons ariel Miranda Titania
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Oberon and Umbreal these moons have a
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wide variety of terrains and geological
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features some of which indicate possible
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subsurface
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oceans small Miranda has chaotic terrain
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with deep canyons and tall mountains but
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is likely now frozen solid
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ariel appears to have the youngest
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surface with few impact craters while
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Titania has a very old surface the lack
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of large craters and presence of a large
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canyon system may indicate ancient
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resurfacing oberon is also covered with
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craters and has valleys and large
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mountains umbreel's surface is the
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darkest of the Iranian moons and it
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sports a strange polar ring the origin
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of this ring is still a mystery but
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scientists believe that it may have been
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formed by an icy
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impact since Voyager groundbased
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telescopes and the Hubble Space
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Telescope have played the leading role
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in our understanding of Uranus since
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1992 Hubble has watched the slowly
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changing uranian seasons including
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changes in its unusual pale blue color
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and polar hazes
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telescopes have also revealed that
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Uranus has a complex weather system with
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massive storms that can last for months
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or even years with wind speeds over 500
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mph the ongoing search for ocean worlds
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and life beyond Earth makes Uranus an
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exciting target for the James Web Space
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Telescope and for future uplose
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exploration
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new data will help scientists to
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understand the formation and evolution
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of Uranus as well as its moons and rings
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and provide clues as to whether liquid
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water may reside beneath their icy
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crusts the fascinating properties of
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this planet discovered in just the span
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of a few decades reveal that unlocking
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mysteries here can help scientists learn
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even more about our solar system and our
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place in it
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this is spaceime still to come a Russian
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Sawyer spacecraft arrives at the
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International Space Station with a new
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crew and we look at the dangers of going
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into space all that and more still to
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come on Spaceime
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a new crew has arrived aboard the
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international space station with a
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Russian soy use capsule successfully
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docking to the orbiting outpost the
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soyuse MS-27 spacecraft docked onto the
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Russian Pal modules Nadia port following
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a fasttrack rendevous of just 3 hours 10
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minutes and 28 seconds after launching
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aboard a Sawyer's 21A rocket from the
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Banor Cosmo Drrome in the Central Asian
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Republic of Kazakhstan the MS27's three
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crew members of two Russians and an
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American will spend eight months on
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station as part of the expedition 7273
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crew before returning to Earth in
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December during the crew's time in orbit
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they'll conduct more than 200
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experiments they'll also undertake
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ongoing maintenance work on the station
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systems and carry out at least one
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spacew walk following its docking the
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Soyuse MS-27 joins the Soyuse MS-26 the
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Dragon spacecraft endurance as well as
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the Progress MS29 and MS30 cargo ships
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as part of the space station's current
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compliment of visiting spacecraft this
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is spacetime still to come the dangers
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of going into space and later in the
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science report scientists develop a meat
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flavor in order to make lab grown meats
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more meatier all that and more still to
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come on
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Spaceime we all know that space is
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dangerous not just for satellites and
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spacecraft but also for people so
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exactly what are the dangers to better
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understand how the human body changes in
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space flight NASA and issa have been
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sending people into space on long
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duration missions in low Earth orbit the
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biggest change is the impact of
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microgravity because bones aren't
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carrying any weight and muscles don't
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need to work very hard bone density
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lowers and muscles weaken but there are
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also other changes the human eyeball for
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example changes its shape that affects
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vision fluids that normally occupy
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specific areas of the body under normal
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1g conditions end up moving into other
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areas meaning nausea and dizziness
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become a real issue for balance and
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astronauts always feel as if they've got
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a head cold and of course the further
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away you are from Earth's atmosphere and
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protective magnetospheric shield the
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greater the risk of
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radiation apollo crew on deep space
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missions to the moon reported seeing
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sudden flashes of light it turns out
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these were cosmic rays penetrating their
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eyeballs and all these issues and more
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will amplify as humans venture deeper
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into space returning to the moon on the
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Artemus missions this time to stay there
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and later on even longer missions to the
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red planet Mars and beyond and that's
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probably only a decade or so away
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biological and physical sciences expert
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Lisa Carnell from NASA says despite more
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than 60 years of human space flight
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there's still so much we still don't
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know what are the dangers of going into
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space for human space flight the first
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thing I think about is the astronauts
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actually strapping themselves to a
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rocket and if that isn't dangerous
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enough once they launch and they're out
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into space in deep exploration we have
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to worry about radiation radiation is
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coming at them from all directions from
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the sun we have solar particles we have
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galactic cosmic rays that are all over
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in the universe and those cause damage
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to DNA on Earth here we use sunscreen to
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protect us from DNA damage our
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astronauts are protected from the
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shielding that's around them in the
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space vehicles we also have to worry
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about microgravity so what happens there
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we see a lot of bone and muscle loss in
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our astronauts and so to prevent this we
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actually have the astronauts exercising
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for hours every day and of course we
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don't want to run out of food on a space
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exploration mission so we want to make
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sure that we have everything that the
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astronauts need to take with them to
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make sure that we can sustain them there
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are many risks associated with human
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space exploration nasa's been planning
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for these missions to make our
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astronauts return home safely
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this is
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[Music]
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spacetime and time now to take another
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brief look at some of the other stories
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making news in science this week with
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the science report a new study has shown
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that the shingles vaccine reduces the
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probability of dementia by up to 20% the
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findings reported in the journal nature
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are based on a large scale Welsh study
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looking at people born after the 2nd of
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September 1933 who were eligible for a
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shingles vaccination now these were then
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compared with people born before that
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date who weren't eligible the study
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allowed researchers to compare two
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different groups who differed in age but
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just a few weeks and when they compared
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new dementia diagnoses between the
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vaccine eligible and the ineligible
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populations they found that receiving
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the vaccine decreased the likelihood of
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being diagnosed with dementia during the
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7-year follow-up study period by around
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a fifth or
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20% if you're one of those people who
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don't like to kill animals just so you
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can have a tasty meal lab grown meat has
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become one of the big items on your
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grocery bill and its use has come a long
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way in terms of looking like
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recognizable dishes but some say flavor
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hasn't quite kept up now a report in the
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journal Nature Communications claims
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Korean researchers may have solved this
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problem they've developed what they're
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calling a meaty flavor and it can be
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released by cooking the food at specific
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temperatures the authors designed a
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temperature responsive scaffold for the
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meat where a switchable flavor compound
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is mixed into a gelatinous base and when
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heated up to over 150° C releases a
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tasty meatiness flavor however there is
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one problem the authors haven't actually
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chowed down on the new meaty flavor yet
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instead they've confirmed the flavor
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using an electronic nose and chemical
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analysis of its smell and all that
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suggests the flavor profile is very
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similar to that of grilled
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beef chemtrail conspiracy theorists are
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getting desperate they're now using AI
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to modify TV interviews in order to
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promote their pseudoscientific beliefs
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tim Mendum from Australian Skeptic says
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a segment from Australia's network 10
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which featured skeptic Ken Mloud
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debunking the chemtrail myth is the
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latest victim of this trend this is a
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classic case of the awful use of AI this
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was a TV show the morning program that
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was pretty much a tabloid type thing
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mixture of sort of gossip and rumor and
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advertorials and that sort of thing
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hitting programs channel 10 are known
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for yeah yeah this is probably one of
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the hardest hitting programs to have
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which is looking at chemtrails right
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which is a fairly out there theory that
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the government is dropping all sorts of
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chemicals or uh chips or something into
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the atmosphere from planes to pollute us
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all or control our brains or whatever
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you drive us crazy whatever it's a
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strange one cuz there's a lot of lot of
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loopholes of course in reality it's
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simply the condensation of water vapor
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in the air caused by the disturbance of
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the passing plane that's right and
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normally titled contrails or
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condensation trails people just see
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these little clouds in the sky following
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planes and some people assume it's sort
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of like crop dusting that they're
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dropping all sorts of strange things
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anyway a story on this channel 10
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program TV channel 10 program was
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looking at chemtrails and the opening
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blurbs describe them as conspiracy
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theory allegations blah blah blah now
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the people who promote chemtrails and
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there was one of them on this program
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along with a skeptic who was debunking
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what he was saying but the people who
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were in favor of chemtrails weren't too
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pleased with the fact that this TV
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station is saying "Uh-huh probably not
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true." So they took the clip of the host
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of the program and they dubbed over her
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words saying chemtrails are true
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chemtrails are affecting us here's the
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horror story trying to sort of lip sync
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the lips which is not always great on AI
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but the voices are getting very good
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these days so it's a video clip put on
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Facebook this phony sort of dialogue
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phony voice over and then they cut to
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the chemtrail promoter who was on the
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program stating his case conveniently
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they leave off the skeptic who was sort
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of debunking all those it's a total fake
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bad as a fake can get when you think
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about it it's so dishonest that I'm
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surprised it doesn't border on criminal
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yet i mean in a way it does if you've if
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Angela Bishop who's the journalist
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involved has been misrepresented and
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clearly she has I think there's a
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there's a good case for legal action oh
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yeah i mean the trouble is trying to
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track down who actually did it is the
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problem i mean there's all sorts of
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fakes out there the sort of noted
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figures supposedly promoting financial
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schemes and I know that the patron of
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Australian skeptics Dick Smith who's a
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millionaire he's had his vision used and
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a voice over that sounds remarkably like
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his real voice stating this um
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endorsement of this shony financial
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scheme that's sort of designed to get
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people's money in and sort of probably
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probably give no return for it it's
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happening a lot it's happening
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increasingly so it's dangerous it's
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going to be a great excuse for
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politicians in the future though isn't
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it well it already is yeah that's not me
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that's fake news that's a fake video and
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some of them are totally fake videos the
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image is fake and the and the voice over
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the audio is fake so this is
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unfortunately a big danger of things so
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therefore it's hard enough to say to
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people from a skeptic don't always
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believe what you see look into it
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closely but here if you got an image of
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someone who is a genuine image in this
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case with a false voice although it
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sounds like their voice stating a case
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which they never stated it is an issue
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the major issue is not just a silly
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little thing it actually becomes quite
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serious and the implications of this are
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huge it's certainly one of the dangers
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of AI that these things can happen this
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should go under existing consumer
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affairs law it's liable slander misuse
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of information image theft it's data
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theft it's all sorts of things so this
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one should be already available if they
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bother to follow up on it and that's the
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problem that's Tim Minham from
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Australian Skeptics
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