April 10, 2025

Uranus’ Atmospheric Mysteries Unveiled, Space Junk Crisis Deepens

Uranus’ Atmospheric Mysteries Unveiled, Space Junk Crisis Deepens
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Uranus’ Atmospheric Mysteries Unveiled, Space Junk Crisis Deepens

SpaceTime Series 28 Episode 44

The Astronomy, Space and Science News Podcast

New Discoveries About Uranus, the 2025 Space Environment Robert on Space Junk, and NASA's Starliner Testing Updates

In this episode of SpaceTime, we explore groundbreaking insights into the atmosphere of Uranus, derived from two decades of observations by NASA's Hubble Space Telescope. Uranus, an ice giant with its unique tilt and rotation, reveals complex atmospheric dynamics that scientists are just beginning to understand. We discuss the implications of Hubble's findings, including the distribution of methane and the changing aerosol structures as the planet approaches its northern summer solstice in 2030.

The 2025 Space Environment Robert

Next, we delve into the European Space Agency's 2025 Space Environment Robert, highlighting the growing challenge of space debris orbiting Earth. With thousands of defunct satellites and rocket stages contributing to the clutter, we examine the risks posed to operational spacecraft and the urgent need for international debris reduction measures. The report underscores the potential for catastrophic chain reactions in space, known as Kessler Syndrome, and the pressing need for sustainable practices in orbit.

Nasa and Boeing's Starliner Testing Preparations

Additionally, we provide updates on NASA and Boeing's ongoing efforts to address issues with the CST-100 Starliner spacecraft. Following a series of test flight challenges, the teams are preparing for new evaluations and propulsion system tests aimed at certifying Starliner for future crewed missions. We discuss the history of Starliner's difficulties and what lies ahead in its journey to becoming a reliable transport vehicle for astronauts.

00:00 Space Time Series 28 Episode 44 for broadcast on 11 April 2025

00:49 New insights into Uranus's atmospheric dynamics

06:30 Hubble's long-term observations and their implications

12:15 Overview of the 2025 Space Environment Robert

18:00 The growing threat of space debris

22:45 NASA and Boeing's Starliner testing updates

27:00 Summary of recent space exploration developments

30:15 Science report: Microplastics and health impacts

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00:00 - Space Time Series 28 Episode 44 for broadcast on 11 April 2025

00:49 - New insights into Uranus’s atmospheric dynamics

06:30 - Hubble’s long-term observations and their implications

12:15 - Overview of the 2025 Space Environment Robert

18:00 - The growing threat of space debris

22:45 - NASA and Boeing’s Starliner testing updates

27:00 - Summary of recent space exploration developments

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this is Spacetime Series 28 episode 44


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for broadcast on the 11th of April


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2025 coming up on Spaceime new insights


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in the atmosphere of Uranus the 2025


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space environment report on space junk


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and NASA and Boeing preparing for a new


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round of Starlininer testing all that


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and more coming up on Spaceime


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welcome to Spaceime with Stuart Garry


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[Music]


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astronomers have uncovered new insights


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into the atmospheric composition


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dynamics of the mysterious planet Uranus


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the findings are based on two decades


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worth of observations of the ice giant


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by NASA's Hubble Space Telescope uranus


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is a strange world traveling around the


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sun tipped on its side rotating at a


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nearly 90° angle from the plane of its


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orbit it's the seventh planet from the


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sun and the third largest planet in the


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solar system about four times the size


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of the Earth uranus is surrounded by a


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faint ring system and is more than two


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dozen small moons the new Hubble results


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will help astronomers better understand


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how the atmosphere of Uranus works and


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how it responds to changing sunlight


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these long-term observations provide


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valuable data for understanding


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atmospheric dynamics when Voyager 2 flew


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past Uranus back in 1986 it provided a


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close-up snapshot of the sideways world


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we know that Uranus's atmosphere is


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mostly hydrogen and helium with small


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amounts of methane and traces of water


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and ammonia the methane gives Uranus its


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cyan color by absorbing the red


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wavelengths of sunlight what Voyer 2 saw


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resembled a bland blue green billyard


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ball by comparison Hubble chronicled a


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20ear story of seasonal changes between


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2002 and


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2022 over that period scientists used


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Hubble spectrograph to develop an


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accurate picture of the atmospheric


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structure of the planet they observed


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Uranus four times in 2002 in 2012 in


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2015 and again in 2022 finding that


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unlike conditions on the gas giant


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Saturn and Jupiter methane isn't


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uniformly distributed across Uranus


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instead it's strongly depleted near the


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poles and this depletion remained


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relatively constant over the two decades


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however the planet's aerosol and haze


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structure change dramatically


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brightening significantly as the


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northern polar region of the planet


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approaches the northern summer solstice


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in 2030 uranus takes a little over 84


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Earth years to complete each orbit


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around the sun so over the two decades


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the Hubble team have really only seen


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the northern spring as the sun moves


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from shining directly over Uranus's


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equator towards shining almost directly


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over its north pole in 2030 the Hubble


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observations are suggesting complex


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atmospheric circulation patterns on


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Uranus during this period the data


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that's most sensitive to methane


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distribution indicates a downwelling in


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the polar regions and an upwelling in


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other areas over the years the authors


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watched the seasons of Uranus as the


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south pole region darkened going into a


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winter shadow while the northern polar


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region brightened as it began to come


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into a more direct view as the northern


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hemisphere summer approaches at middle


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and lower latitudes aerosols and methane


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depletion have their own latitudinal


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structure that mostly didn't change over


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the two decades of observations however


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in the polar regions aerosols and


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methane depletion behave very


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differently the aerosols near the north


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pole displayed a dramatic increase


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showing up as very dark during the early


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northern spring and turning very bright


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in more recent years aerosols also seem


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to disappear as the solar radiation


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disappeared and this is evidence that


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solar radiation is changing the aerosol


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haze in the atmosphere on the other hand


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methane depletion appears to stay quite


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high in both polar regions throughout


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the observing period needless to say


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astronomers will continue to observe


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Uranus as the planet approaches its


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northern hemisphere summer this is


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spaceime still to come the European


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Space Ay's 2025 space environment report


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and NASA and Boeing prepare for a new


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round of testing of the troubled


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Starlininer spacecraft all that and more


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still to come on Spaceime


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[Music]


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the European Space Agency has released


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its latest space environment report


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warning of the ever growing problem of


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space junk orbiting the Earth our planet


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is surrounded by spacecraft carrying out


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important work to study our changing


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climate deliver global communications


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and navigation services and help answer


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important scientific questions the


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problem is some of their orbits are


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getting really crowded and increasingly


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churning with deadly fastmoving pieces


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of defunct satellites and rockets that


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threaten operational spacecraft since


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2017 the European Space Agency Space


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Debris Office has published an annual


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space environment report in order to


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provide a transparent overview of global


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space activities and determine just how


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well international debris reduction


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measures are working to try and improve


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the long-term sustainability of space


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flight the 2025 report says intact


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satellites and rocket bodies are now


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re-entering the Earth's atmosphere on


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average more than three times a day


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however still not enough satellites are


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programmed to leave heavily congested


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orbits at the end of their lives thereby


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creating an increased risk of collision


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in fact 2024 saw several major


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fragmentation events as well as many


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smaller ones together these have added


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thousands of new debris objects into


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space underlying the need for prevention


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by implementing pacivation and reduced


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orbit lifetime measures the report says


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that even without any additional


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launches the amount of space debris will


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simply keep growing that's because of


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fragmentation events as spacecraft


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collide that results in new debris


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objects building up faster than debris


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can naturally reenter the


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atmosphere the United States is


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currently tracking well over 20,000


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artificial objects in orbit above the


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Earth now of these only about 4,000 are


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operational satellites with the rest


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being disused spacecraft spent rocket


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stages and larger segments of space junk


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big enough to be tracked from the ground


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and current estimates suggest that there


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are probably more than 200 million bits


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of space junk a few centimeters or less


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in size orbiting the Earth now all these


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objects are traveling at orbital speeds


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of 28,000 km an hour


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one of the biggest fears are cascade


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events where satellites spent rocket


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stages or bits of space junk slam into


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each other creating more shrapnel and


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space junk which then slams into other


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spacecraft creating even more space


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debris and so on ultimately the Earth


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could face what's known as a Kesler


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syndrome first proposed by NASA


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scientist Donald Kesler back in 1978 the


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Kesler syndrome involves a runaway chain


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reaction of collisions exponentially


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increasing the amount of debris clouds


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orbiting the Earth to the point where


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the distribution of debris could render


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space activities and the use of


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satellites in specific orbital ranges


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impractical for


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generations and it's not that


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far-fetched the International Space


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Station is regularly forced to change


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orbit to avoid space junk with crews


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needing to seek refuge inside dock


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capsules in the event of a collision and


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the potential need to undertake


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emergency escape back to Earth spacew


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walking astronauts have also recorded


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impact damage to the orbiting outpost


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and returning spacecraft have also shown


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evidence of debris impact caused while


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in orbit and it's all been happening


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very quickly the first major recorded


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satellite collision was back on February


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the 10th


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2009 that's when the 560 kg Aridium 33


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telecommunications satellite collided


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with a deactivated 950 kg Russian Cosmos


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2251 satellite the collision occurred


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some 800 km over Siberia at a relative


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speed of 11.7 km/s that's about


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42,120 kmh destroying both spacecraft in


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January 2020 the DIS used Russian Cosmos


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2491 spy satellite was suddenly hit by a


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piece of space junk shattering it into


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at least 10 major fragments but to date


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the worst incident polluting space with


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deadly shrapnel wasn't an accident but


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deliberate back on January the 11th 2007


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China conducted an anti-satellite


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missile test using a DF-21 ballistic


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missile launched from the Xia satellite


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launch center to deliberately blow up a


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disused Chinese weather satellite for no


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other reason than in order to


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demonstrate to the rest of the world


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that they could do it the missile


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slammed headon into the 750 kg Fanggy


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Yong FY1C Weather Satellite at an


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altitude of 865 km traveling at 8 km/s


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and smashing both spacecraft into a


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massive debris cloud containing hundreds


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of thousands of bits of shrapnel the


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event remains the largest recorded


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creation of space junk in history with


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well over 2,000 pieces of trackablesiz


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space debris cataloged in the immediate


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aftermath beijing was condemned by other


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nations including the United States


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Britain Japan Russia and Australia for


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their actions which dramatically


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worsened the problem of space junk and


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increased the dangers it posed to both


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people and spacecraft and those fears


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proved justified on January the 22nd


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2013 when a Russian laser ranging


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satellite was struck by debris from the


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2007 Chinese missile test damaging the


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spacecraft and changing both its orbit


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and spin rate this summary of the 2025


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space environment report from ISA TV


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humanity has a littering habit from the


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deep sea up into the sky space debris is


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now a wellestablished problem around 70%


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of the 20,000 satellites ever launched


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remain in space today orbiting alongside


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hundreds of millions of fragments left


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behind by collisions explosions and


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intentional destruction and the outlook


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is worsening year on year for each


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satellite ISA has to perform twice as


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many collision avoidance maneuvers than


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it did 10 years ago with some operators


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reporting two such maneuvers per month


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per satellite but the challenge we face


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now is nothing compared to what is to


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come a new era is here the commercial


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space race access to space has become


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faster easier and cheaper and vast


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constellations of satellites are


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dominating entire orbits on a first come


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first serve basis current predictions


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indicate that by 2030 the number of


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active satellites orbiting our planet


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could reach


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100,000 every additional satellite burns


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new rocket emissions increases collision


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risks and stains the skies for


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astronomy humanity's exploitation


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threatens a common inheritance a common


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benefit a cycle we are not unfamiliar


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with


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international regulations and space


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debris mitigation measures are limited


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and we are only just beginning to see


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the consequences of this new complex and


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unregulated mix of institutional and


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commercial space activity so is this a


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crisis in some orbits yes above 800 km


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we cannot rely on the atmosphere to pull


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down debris for disposal once these high


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altitude orbits have been littered with


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shrapnel there is no going back the


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problem is cumulative and with our


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current level of technology irreversible


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application specific orbits such as the


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geostationary ring are simply


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irreplaceable the satellites that enable


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our modern lives are at risk from


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navigation for global transport to time


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synchronization for banking and finance


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telecommunications climate monitoring


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air traffic control and international


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communication we need space now more


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than ever to address the climate crisis


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and predict extreme weather events


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sudden damage to these satellites could


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lead to blackouts and breakdowns with


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unforeseen


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consequences a catastrophic chain


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reaction is not just a possibility it is


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already underway in some orbital regions


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our behavior really could see us run out


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of


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space space has so much value beyond


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satellite services it has been an


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integral part of our culture for


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millennia entangled throughout our


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science and philosophies our religions


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and


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mythologies overwhelming our skies with


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satellites is putting groundbased


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astronomy and worldwide social and


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cultural uses of space at risk all


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future generations deserve to wonder at


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the night skies just as our ancestors


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have before us the stakes are high the


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challenge is daunting but there is still


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so much we can do to ensure a


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sustainable future isa is imposing


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stricter rules on itself with the goal


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of becoming debris neutral by


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2030 the agency is reducing the maximum


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time that its satellites can spend in


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orbit after the end of their mission


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from 25 years to 5 and developing more


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reliable methods for depleting excess


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fuel and battery power to minimize


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explosion risk isa is also designing


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measures to preserve dark and quiet


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skies by minimizing the impact of


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satellites on optical infrared and radio


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astronomy but space exploration is a


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global endeavor for the shared benefit


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of


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humankind the long-term sustainability


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of space will require action and change


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from both traditional and new players


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together the Zero Debris community is


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working on new principles and


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technologies for minimizing the creation


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of new space debris and improving our


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ability to track monitor and avoid the


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debris already in orbit isa is also


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working to establish the concept of an


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orbital capacity this would evaluate the


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space debris generation risk associated


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with new and existing missions to help


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guide safe and sustainable operations


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now and in the future ultimately ISA


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aims to treat Earth's orbital


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environment like an international nature


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reserve what you bring in with you you


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must take out when you are done and to


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encourage others to do the same in the


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orbits where a chain reaction of


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collisions and breakups has already


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begun active debris removal will be


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essential to prepare for this ISSA will


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begin to equip missions with systems to


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assist their removal if they are unable


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to remove themselves from orbit true


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sustainability is complex and rushed


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solutions risk creating the problem of


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burden shifting solving one problem can


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sometimes create another for example the


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metals and chemicals used in satellites


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are released during re-entry and the


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impact that they have on the environment


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is an accelerating area of research for


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objects that reach the ground the


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current best practice is to let them


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pollute the ocean to avoid human


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casualty risk so how can our use of


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space ever be sustainable space is


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currently a linear economy one that


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starts with the construction of rockets


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and satellites and ends with debris the


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ultimate solution would be the creation


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of a sustainable circular economy in


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orbit to achieve this solutions such as


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inorbit servicing refueling or reusing


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existing satellite platforms or more


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ambitious and futuristic solutions such


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as orbiting recycling stations will be


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necessary if humankind wishes to


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establish itself in Earth orbit or even


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at the moon Mars and beyond for


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centuries to come this is our chance to


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build healthy practices in space our


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time to act already came and now the


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clock is ticking our world could look


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vastly different if our measure of


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success was maintaining a healthy


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balanced relationship with an


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environment pollution isn't inevitable


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but the choices we make today will


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determine access to resources for


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generations to come let's build good


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habits on and around the pale blue dot


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that future generations can be proud of


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habits that humankind can carry with it


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out into the solar system this is


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spaceime still to come NASA and Boeing


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prepare for a new round of Starlininer


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testing and later in the science report


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a new study found that places with high


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concentrations of microlastics have


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populations with higher rates of


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hypertension diabetes and stroke all


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that and more still to come on Spaceime


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[Music]


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nasa and Boeing are working on new tests


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and evaluations towards finally ironing


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out the ongoing problems with Boeing's


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CST 100 Star Liner following a string of


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disastrous test flight attempts in


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recent years the joint teams are working


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to resolve Starlininer's in-flight


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anomalies and preparing for new


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propulsion system testing ahead of more


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flight certification tests in the future


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nasa's space operations administrator


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Ken Bowox says the AY's investment in


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commercial crew transportation


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capabilities is crucial to providing the


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needed flexibility to operate in space


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as safely as possible and respond to


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changes quickly when they


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arise starlininer's first man space


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flight returned to Earth safely in


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September but without its crew following


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ongoing problems with both its


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propulsion system and repeated helium


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leaks the crew were left aboard the


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International Space Station they


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eventually returned to Earth last month


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aboard a SpaceX Dragon capsule instead


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for NASA it was the last straw in the


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long list of failures for Starlininer it


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followed two earlier unmanned


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Starlininer test flights first in


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December 2019 was plagued with computer


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problems that saw Starlininer enter


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orbit too early unable to reach its


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intended target the International Space


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Station and just prior to its de-orbit


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and return to Earth Mission Manage


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discovered another computer problem this


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one far more serious as it would have


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caused the capsule and its service motor


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to collide during their planned


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separation prior to re-entry which would


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have resulted in the destruction of both


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vehicles and once on the ground another


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problem was discovered which would have


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prevented Starlininer from docking with


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the space station anyway had it been


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able to reach it a complete


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re-evaluation the Starlininer spacecraft


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and its systems was undertaken that


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resulted in over 155 changes being


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ordered by NASA a second test flight


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slated for November 2020 was cancelled


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due to more software issues and the


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discovery of corrosion damage to 13


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propulsion system valves resulting in


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the need to undertake a complete rebuild


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of the spacecraft including the


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development of a new service module


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apparently the valves had been corroded


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by the intrusion of moisture which


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interacted with the propellant trouble


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is the source of the moisture was never


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found a second unmanned orbital


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Starlininer test flight finally launched


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in May 2022


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however two orbital maneuvering and


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attitude control system thrusters failed


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during the orbital insertion burn that


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force mission manages to compensate


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using the remaining thrusters with the


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addition of the reaction control system


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thrusters but a couple of reaction


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control system thrusters used to


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maneuver Starliner also failed due to


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low chamber pressure during the docking


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procedure to the space station and


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mission managers found some thermal


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systems used to cool the spacecraft


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showed extra cold temperatures requiring


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engineers to manage it during the


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docking eventually the spacecraft did


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return safely to Earth landing back at


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the White Sands missile range in New


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Mexico 6 days later without incident but


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once back on the ground more problems


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were detected this time with the harness


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straps on the parachute system which


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required extra strengthening and also


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with the glue used on the installation


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of the spacecraft electrical wiring


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harnesses it turns out that glue was


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flammable that resulted in another


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complete rebuild and all that pushed the


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first man test flight of Starlininer to


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June


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2024 but what was to be an 8-day flight


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to the International Space Station


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turned out to be a 9-month stay as


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Starlininer arrived at the space station


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five of its 28 reaction control system


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thrusters malfunctioned it was clear


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evidence that underlying issues remained


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with the spacecraft mission managers


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eventually got four of the five


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problematic thrusters operational before


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clearing Starlininer to approach and


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dock with the orbiting outpost on its


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second docking attempt eventually NASA


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decided Starlininer simply wasn't safe


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enough for man flight and the crew were


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ordered to remain on station leaving


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Star Liner to return to Earth empty in


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the months following its return NASA and


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Boeing have been working on post-flight


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data analysis of its crude flight test


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the major in-flight propulsion system


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anomalies Starline has been experiencing


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in orbit are expected to remain open


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pending further ground tests and system


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upgrades testing at White Sands will


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include integrated firing of key


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Starlininer thrusters a test of the


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spacecraft's thermal protection system


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upgrades operational solutions for


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future space flight issues and the


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testing of new helium system seals in


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order to mitigate the risk of future


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leaks only once they get through all


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these planned test campaigns will they


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have a better idea of exactly how fit


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the spacecraft is to fly again and only


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then will NASA determine where


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Starlininer best fits in the schedule


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for the International Space Station and


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its crew and cargo missions now that


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could be towards the end of this year


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but more likely early 2026


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this is


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[Music]




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spaceime and time now to take another


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brief look at some of the other stories


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making news in science this week with


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the science report


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a new study has shown that places with


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high concentrations of microplastics


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also have populations with higher rates


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of hypertension diabetes stroke and


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other non-communicable diseases the


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findings presented at the American


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College of Kylo annual scientific


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sessions looked at the concentrations of


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microplastics in water bodies around the


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coasts and lakes shores in the United


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States between 2015 and 2019 the authors


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then use statistical analyses of rates


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of conditions like high blood pressure


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diabetes stroke and cancer in those


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areas as well as other social


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environmental factors including medium


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household incomes employment rates and


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particulate matter air pollution in the


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same areas they found that higher


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microplastic concentrations were


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associated with higher blood pressure


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higher diabetes rates and higher stroke


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rates but not with higher cancer rates


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a new study has shown that people who


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are usually being constantly distracted


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by their cell phones are just as likely


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to find other ways to procrastinate if


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their phones aren't nearby a report in


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the journal Frontiers of Computer


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Science asked 22 people to work for 2


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days in a private soundproofed room they


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asked either place their phones on their


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desk or on another desk just out of


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reach the authors found the participants


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didn't spend any less time pursuing


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leisure activities when their phones


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were further away they wound up still


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switching between work and leisure tasks


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just as


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often scientists have turned a woman's


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thoughts into speech using a device


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trained on her brain activity that can


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speak in real time the researchers


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implanted their device into a 47year-old


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woman who had been unable to speak for


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18 years and they trained their device


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on her brain activity as she internally


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spoke sentences containing just over a


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thousand unique words the voice of the


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device was also trained using a clip of


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the woman speaking before her injury in


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order to help her voice sound like her a


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report in the journal Nature


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Neuroscience says while similar devices


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have been designed previously this new


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technology is the first to allow


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realtime conversation and avoid


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delays neuraluic programming or NLP is a


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collection of psychological and


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communication strategies that can be


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applied to help someone reach a desired


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goal classic NLP techniques which have


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been around since the 1970s include


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things like using visualization to


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change thought processes and habits


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mirroring body languages to make


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connections with other people and using


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affirmations or incantations to try and


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turn your aspirations into reality such


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as I think therefore I can while neural


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linguistic programming is considered a


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pseudocience in remains popular among


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some business coaches sales and


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marketing executives and athletes and


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while some people might find it useful


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although probably not for the reasons


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they think it's also being used by other


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people who have turned it into a


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commercial cult tim Mendum from


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Australian Skeptics says amid the


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psychological coaching are some


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disreputable groups who are offering


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promises of big money and certificate


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training neural linguistics is a


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psychology treatment process that is


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claiming to have some scientific


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background that is designed to help you


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cope with your particular issues that


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you have everything from confidence


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depression through to postpartum


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depression and all sorts of different


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things and it's not regarded highly in


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scientific terms it's not regarded as


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being very well founded even though


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there are organizations and people with


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qualifications you would hope would sort


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of indicate that they'd be a bit more


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critical neural linguistic programming


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NLT is supposedly applied individually


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so each person's individual


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circumstances means you work out the


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treatment you're going to give them


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through this confidence building helping


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you sort out your deep traumas etc what


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is happening is that the industry is


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being taken over by some people who


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because of the reliance that people who


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go see an NLP practitioner have for the


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practitioner it becomes a bit cultish


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and people are encouraged to come back


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and back and back for more treatment


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more courses increasingly expensive etc


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etc things that they can't afford and


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then in some cases they're actually


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saying that they're training up this


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person to become their own NLP


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practitioner so it's one pseudocience


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largely creating other people to follow


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them to promote pseudocience it's almost


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like a pyramid scheme when you think


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about it it is a bit like pyramid scheme


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it's a bit like multi-level marketing is


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called which is basically I sell my


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courses to you you sell those courses to


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everyone else and it's a pyramid right


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uh people see cult aspects to this


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training this NLP treatment processes


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the more you get involved the more you


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need to be involved and the more you


00:26:23.760 --> 00:26:24.950
know you need to be involved the bit


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more courses you are sold on and you can


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do a 10-week course to help you out with


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these particular problems and then oh by


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the way we've discovered these things so


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happy to go to the second level course


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or the premier course or the gold level


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course or this sort of thing and you


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know once you're in you're trapped and


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you're pouring out tens of thousands of


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dollars to a practitioner and then you


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reach the the end stage and say what


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about being a practitioner yourself and


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then you're going out the other end to


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inflict that practice on somebody else


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in some instances a well-intentioned way


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to treat people with depression etc with


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psychological issues but it's like any


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of these things it can be it's it's


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vague and it can be manipulated by other


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people that's Tim Mindum from Australian


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