Theia Unveiled: Tracing the Origins of Earth’s Moon and Lucy’s Journey to Jupiter’s Trojans
(00:00:00) Theia Unveiled: Tracing the Origins of Earth's Moon and Lucy's Journey to Jupiter's Trojans
(00:00:50) New study claims Theia and Earth were once neighbours
(00:06:16) Lucy’s mission to Jupiter’s trojan asteroids
(00:15:26) Starliner’s next mission to be limited to cargo only
(00:17:57) The Science Report
(00:23:17) Alex on Tech: Dooms Day clock countdown to Digital ID
In this episode of SpaceTime , we dive into the intriguing origins of our Moon and the latest developments in space exploration.
Theia: The Lost Planet Behind the Moon's Birth
A groundbreaking study reveals that Theia, the small planet believed to have collided with Earth to form the Moon, originated from the inner solar system. Researchers from the Max Planck Institute and the University of Chicago have analyzed isotopic compositions of Earth and Moon rocks, suggesting that Theia was likely composed of materials found closer to the Sun than Earth's orbit. This discovery sheds light on the nature of this celestial body and its dramatic impact on our planet's history.
Lucy Mission Update: Journey to Jupiter's Trojans
NASA's Lucy spacecraft, launched in October 2021, is on an ambitious 12-year mission to explore Jupiter's Trojan asteroids. These ancient remnants from the solar system's formation are crucial for understanding planetary development. Lucy will visit seven asteroids, including both leading and trailing Trojan swarms, providing unprecedented insights into the early solar system. Principal Investigator Hal Levison emphasizes that the mission will revolutionize our understanding of planetary formation and the origins of volatiles and organics on terrestrial planets.
Starliner Mission Limited to Cargo
In a significant setback, NASA has announced that Boeing's Starliner spacecraft will only carry cargo on its next mission to the International Space Station. This decision follows a series of technical issues that plagued Starliner's previous flights. With the total number of planned missions reduced from six to four, NASA aims to ensure safety and reliability before allowing crewed flights again.
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00:00 - Theia Unveiled: Tracing the Origins of Earth’s Moon and Lucy’s Journey to Jupiter’s Trojans
00:50 - New study claims Theia and Earth were once neighbours
06:16 - Lucy’s mission to Jupiter’s trojan asteroids
15:26 - Starliner’s next mission to be limited to cargo only
17:57 - The Science Report
23:17 - Alex on Tech: Dooms Day clock countdown to Digital ID
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This is Spacetime Series 28, episode 142
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for broadcast on the 3rd of December,
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2025.
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Coming up on Spaceime, a new study has
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found that the small planet that
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collided with the Earth to create our
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moon also originated from the inner
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solar system. An update on Lucy's
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mission to Jupiter's Trojan asteroids.
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And NASA rules that Starlininer's next
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mission to the International Space
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Station will be limited to cargo only.
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All that and more coming up on Spaceime.
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>> Welcome to Spaceime with Stuart Garry.
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A new study has found that the small
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planet that collided with the earth to
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create our moon also originated from the
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inner solar system about 4 1/2 billion
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years ago. The most momentous event in
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the history of our planet occurred. A
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huge celestial body about the size of
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the planet Mars, which astronomers have
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now named Thea, collided with a young
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proto Earth, creating a vast magma
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ocean, which eventually coalesed,
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differentiated, and then solidified to
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form the Earth as we know it today.
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Meanwhile, some of the debris ejected
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from that impact was flung up into
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orbit, eventually coalesing to form the
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moon. Exactly how that collision
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unfolded and what precisely happened
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afterwards has not been conclusively
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clarified. What is certain, however, is
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that the size, composition, and orbit of
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the Earth changed as a result, and that
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the impact marked the birth of our
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constant companion in space, the moon.
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But there are lots of questions yet to
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be answered. What kind of body was this
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Thea that so dramatically altered the
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course of our planet's development? How
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big was Thea really? We think it was
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about a third the size of the earth.
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What was it made of? And from which part
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of the solar system did it come crashing
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into the earth? The problem is finding
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answers to these questions is difficult.
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After all, Theoa was completely
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destroyed in that collision.
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Nevertheless, faint traces of it can
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still be found today in the composition
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of the Earth and Moon. Now a report in
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the journal science by researchers at
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the Maxplank Institute in the University
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of Chicago have worked out a possible
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list of ingredients that may have made
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up thea and thus helps to point us in
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the direction of its place of origin.
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You see the ratio of certain metal
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isotopes present in a body can be
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especially revealing. Isotopes are
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varants of the same element that differ
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only in the number of neutrons in their
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atomic nucleus and thus in their mass.
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In the early solar system, the isotopes
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of certain given elements were unlikely
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to be evenly distributed. At the outer
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edge of the solar system, for example,
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isotopes occurred in a slightly
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different ratio than what they did near
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the sun. So, information about the
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origin of a body's original building
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blocks is thus stored in its isotopic
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composition. To reach their conclusions
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in this study, the authors determine the
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ratio of different iron isotopes in
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Earth and moon rocks with unprecedented
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precision. They examined 15 terrestrial
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rocks and six lunar rock samples which
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were brought back by the Apollo
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missions. Earlier measurements of the
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isotope ratios of chromium, calcium,
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titanium, and zirconium had already
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shown that the Earth and Moon are
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indistinguishable in terms of their
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composition. So that clearly doesn't
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allow for any direct conclusions about
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the simply too many possible collision
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scenarios. Now most models assume that
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the moon was formed almost exclusively
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from ejected material which was flung
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off from thea but it's also possible
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that it consists primarily of material
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from the early earth's mantle or that
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the rocks from the earth and thea were
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mixed together. Now in order to learn
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more about thea the authors applied a
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kind of reverse engineering for planets
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based on the matching isotope ratios in
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today's terrestrial lunar rocks. They
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looked at which compositions and sizes
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of thea and which composition of the
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early earth could have led to the two
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bodies current compositions. In their
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investigations, the authors looked not
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only at ion isotopes but also at those
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of chromium, malebinum and sacconium.
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The different elements give access to
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different phases of planetary formation.
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Long before the devastating encounter
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with Thea, a kind of sorting process had
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already taken place inside the early
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Earth. With the formation of the
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planet's iron core, some elements such
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as iron and malebdinum accumulated
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there. So afterwards, they were largely
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absent from the rocky mantle above. The
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iron found in Earth's mantle today could
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therefore only have arrived after the
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core had formed. It may have come from
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Thea. Other elements such as zaconium,
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which didn't sink to the core, document
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the entire history of our planet's
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formation. Of the mathematically
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possible compositions of Thea and the
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early Earth that result from the
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calculations, some can be ruled out as
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implausible. While the composition of
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the early Earth can be represented
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predominantly as a mixture of known
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meteorite classes, this isn't the case
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with Thea. Different meteorite classes
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originate from different areas of the
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outer solar system. They therefore serve
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as references for the building material
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that was available during the formation
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of both the early earth and Thea. In the
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case of Thea, however, previously
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unknown material may also have been
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involved. And the authors believe that
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this material's origin lies closer to
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the sun than the orbit of the earth. The
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calculations therefore suggest that the
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itself must have originated closer to
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the sun than Earth's orbit. This is
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spacetime. Still to come, an update on
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Lucy's mission to Jupiter's Trojan
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asteroids, and NASA rules that the
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trouble plague Starlininer's next
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mission to the International Space
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Station will be limited to cargo only.
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All that and more still to come on
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Spaceime
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One of the many exciting missions
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currently underway is NASA's Lucy
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spacecraft, which is on its way to study
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Jupiter's Trojan asteroids. Lucy was
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launched back in October 2021.
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It's on a 12-year mission to study the
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Trojans, two clusters of asteroids that
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share the gas giant's orbit around the
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sun. Trojans are families of asteroids
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kept in gravitationally stable bound
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groups at the lrangeian L4 and L5
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positions located 60° ahead and 60°
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behind Jupiter's orbit around the sun.
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Lrangeian points are named in honor of
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the Italian French mathematician Joseph
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Lewis Lrange who was working on the
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general free body problem in orbital
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mechanics. The grungian points are
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places in space where a gravitational
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pull of two bodies such as in this case
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between the sun and Jupiter tend to
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cancel each other out thereby allowing
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smaller objects such as asteroids or
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spacecraft to remain there for extended
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periods of time. There are five lrangian
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points known as L1 2 3 4 and 5. Now L1 2
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and 3 are all along a line connecting
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the two bodies. Let's say it's the Earth
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and the Sun. In that case, L1 is between
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the Earth and the Sun is often used by
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spacecraft needing an uninterrupted view
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of the sun, such as the Solar and
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Heliospheric Observatory satellite SOHO.
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The L2 position is on the opposite side
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of the Earth to the Sun. It's home to
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spacecraft like the web space telescope
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because it's ideal for astronomy as
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spacecraft are still close enough to
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communicate with the earth and can keep
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the sun, earth, and moon behind them,
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allowing them to gain solar power while
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still providing a clear dark view of
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deep space for their telescopes. The L3
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position is on the opposite side of the
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sun to where the Earth is. Because L3 is
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always hidden from the Earth by the Sun,
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it's become popular in science fiction
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as the location for any hypothetical
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second Earths. But it's the L4 and L5
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positions which provide stable orbits
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around 60° in front of and 60° behind
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Earth's orbit around the Sun. And it's
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at these locations where Trojan
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asteroids, such as those orbiting with
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Jupiter, are commonly found.
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Jupiter's Trojans are distributed into
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two elongated curved regions around
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these lrangian points with an average
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semic-ircular axis of around 5.2
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astronomical units. An astronomical unit
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is the average distance between the
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Earth and the Sun. 150 million
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kilometers or 8.3 light minutes. The
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first Jovian Trojan discovered 588
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Achilles was spotted in 1906 by German
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astronomer Max Wolf. So far, more than
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15,300 Jovian Trojans have been
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detected. Now, by convention, they're
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each named from Greek mythology after a
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figure of the Trojan Wars, hence the
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name Trojan. It later became convention
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to name Jupiter's L4 Trojan asteroids
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after Greek characters and the L5
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asteroids after Trojan characters.
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Astronomers estimate there are more than
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a million Jovian Trojans larger than a
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kilometer in size. Now that's about the
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same as the number of asteroids larger
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than a kilometer in the main asteroid
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belt between Mars and Jupiter. Many
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Jovian Trojans appear to be dark bodies
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with reddish featureless spectra. No
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firm evidence of the presence of water
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or any other specific compound on their
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surfaces has ever been obtained. But it
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is thought that they're coated in
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tholines organic polymers formed by the
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sun's radiation. The Jovian Trojans are
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thought to have been captured into their
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orbits during the early stages of the
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solar systems formation or at the most
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slightly later during the late heavy
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bombardment during the migration of the
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giant planets. Mind you, Jupiter isn't
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alone to have Trojan asteroids. They've
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been found orbiting many of the other
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planets in our solar system as well,
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including Mars, Neptune, Uranus, and
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even the Earth. No spacecraft has ever
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visited a Jovian Trojan. That's where
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the Lucy mission comes in. Lucy is
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covering some 6 and 12 billion
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kilometers, visiting a record-breaking
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seven asteroids, one in the main
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asteroid belt, and six Trojans. The
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mission's principal investigator, Harold
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Leverson, from the Southwest Research
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Institute in Boulder, Colorado, says
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Trojans are leftovers from the early
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days of our solar system. Effectively,
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they're fossils of planetary formation
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and therefore hold vital clues about
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deciphering the solar systems early
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history. He says, "Like Lucy, the human
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ancestor fossil after which it's named,
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the Lucy spacecraft will revolutionize
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science's understanding of the solar
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systems origins. The mission will
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provide an unparalleled glimpse of the
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formation of the solar system, helping
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astronomers better understand the source
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of volatiles and organics on terrestrial
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planets, as well as the evolution of the
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planetary system as a whole. This report
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from NASA TV. We are going to an amazing
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variety of objects with this mission.
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>> The Lucy mission is going to fly past
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seven asteroids in 12 years with one
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spacecraft.
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>> And it's really almost pure luck that
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allowed us to get as many rich targets
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as we are. Literally, the planets were
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aligning to allow us to do this mission.
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The Lucy mission is named after the Lucy
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fossil, the Australopythecus fossil that
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was discovered in the 1970s in Ethiopia.
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And just like the Lucy fossil
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transformed our understanding of
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homminid evolution, the Lucy mission
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will transform our understanding of
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solar system evolution. Trojan asteroids
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are an interesting population of small
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bodies that are left over from the
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formation of the planets and they lead
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or follow Jupiter in its orbit by
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roughly 60°. If you just look at the
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gravitational attraction of the sun and
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Jupiter and put something exactly 60° in
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front of Jupiter, it's stable forever.
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So as a result, these objects are really
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the leftovers of planet formation. The
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stuff that went into growing Jupiter and
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Saturn are now trapped in these
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locations.
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>> The very first asteroid we get to is a
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main belt asteroid named Donald
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Johansson. We named that asteroid in
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honor of the researcher who found the
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Lucy fossil. We're use that asteroid to
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do a rehearsal on our spacecraft to make
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sure everything is working properly so
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that when we get to the Trojan
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asteroids, we're ready to go.
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>> We're visiting both of the Trojan
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swarms. In the first orbit, we're going
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into the leading swarm and we're going
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to encounter four Trojan targets.
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>> Earbies, Palm, Lucas, and Orus. And from
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this, we're going to sample the
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diversity in sizes and colors and
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compositions. The first two flybys
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happened just about 30 days apart. So,
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it's going to be a pretty busy kickoff
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to the season of exploring the asteroids
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in the L4 swarm. And then we'll fly past
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Earth again and out to the L5 swarm.
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>> The final object we're visiting, which I
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must admit is my favorite, is a binary
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object.
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>> So, that's two Trojans that orbit a
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common center of mass. It's called
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Petroas and Menishius.
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>> These objects are nearly identical in
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size that orbit one another. From the
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Lucy mission, we're going to study the
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diversity of our targets because that
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tells us something about their origin
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and where they came from.
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>> The interesting thing about small bodies
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in general is they are the leftovers of
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planet formation. If you look at the
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eight planets that we know about, for
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example, they are highly processed
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because of internal processing. These
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asteroids are objects that really
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haven't changed much from when the
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planets assembled themselves. And as a
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result, by studying them, we can figure
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out the physical conditions of the early
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solar system, as well as how the planets
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grew and how they moved around early on.
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>> All of that will help us form a detailed
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picture of what these objects really
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look like. Because right now, our best
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images are just a point of light. Even
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using the Hubble Space Telescope or
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adaptive optics on large groundbased
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telescopes, we can't see surface
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details. And it's going to take the Lucy
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mission to go to these targets and see
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what they're really made of and what
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they look like.
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And in that report from Massa TV, we
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heard from Lucy principal investigator
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Hal Leverson and Lucy deputy principal
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investigator Kathy Olen, both from the
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Southwest Research Institute in Boulder,
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Colorado. This is Spaceime. Still to
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come, NASA says Boeing's trouble plague
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Starlininer spacecraft won't be carrying
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any astronauts on its next flight to the
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International Space Station. And later
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in the science report, neurologists have
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identified the five major epochs of
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brain structure over the course of a
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human lifetime. All that and more still
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to come on Spaceime.
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NASA says Boeing's trouble plagued
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Starlininer spacecraft won't be carrying
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any astronauts on its next flight to the
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International Space Station. Instead,
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the mission will be limited to cargo and
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supplies only. The decision comes 8
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months after the first and only man
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starliner flight saw the capsule
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returned to Earth empty with its crew
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left stranded on the International Space
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Station for more than 9 months. That
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followed a series of issues with the
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vehicle's propulsion and orbital
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maneuvering systems, as well as its
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helium pressurization system. And it's
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not the first time Starliner suffered
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issues. Faulty computer programming
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prevented the first Starlininer mission
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to the space station from even reaching
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its target. And more faulty computer
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programming, which luckily was corrected
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in time, would have caused the Star
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Liner to be destroyed during its
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re-entry. There have been other problems
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with corrosion in the spacecraft's
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propulsion system as well. Issues with
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the strength of the parachute webbing,
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the concerns over the safety of
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insulation on the spacecraft's wiring
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harness, and problems with environmental
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controls inside the spacecraft's cabin.
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For Starlininer, it's been a case of one
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problem after another, and it seems
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NASA's had enough. As well as limiting
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its next flight to cargo only, NASA's
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also slashed the total number of
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Starlininer missions down from six to
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four. As for Starlininer's next flight,
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that's the cargo mission, it's currently
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slated for April next year. If that goes
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well, then a man mission could happen
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towards the end of the year. The
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remaining two flights will also carry
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crew to the International Space Station
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until the orbiting outpost is
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decommissioned in 2030.
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Starlininer was one of two spacecraft
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selected by NASA back in 2014 as part of
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the AY's commercial crew program to
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transport astronauts to and from the
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space station. But unlike the other
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successful applicant, SpaceX's Dragon
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spacecraft, which has performed
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flawlessly, Boeing Starlininer has
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suffered from continuous failures and
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quality control blunders. It's been a
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costly disaster for Boeing. SpaceX
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launched its first man Dragon mission to
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the space station for NASA in 2020. It's
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now completed 12 crew change missions as
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well as several private missions into
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orbit. This is spacetime.
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And time now to take another brief look
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at some of the other stories making news
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in science this week with a science
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report. Neuroscientists have identified
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five major epochs of brain structure
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over the course of a human lifetime. The
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findings reported in the journal Nature
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Communications show how human brains
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rewire themselves to support different
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ways of thinking as people grow, mature,
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and ultimately decline. The study led by
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Cambridge University compared the brains
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of 3,82 people between 0 and 90 years of
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age using MRI scans which map neural
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connections by tracking how water
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molecules move through brain tissue.
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They found the brain structure for an
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average human life is split up into four
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pivotal turning points between birth and
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death. It seems childhood brain topology
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runs from birth until a turning point at
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around age nine. That's when it
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transitions to an adolescent phase.
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That's an error that lasts up until the
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age of around 32 on average. The brain's
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neural wiring then shifts into a more
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adult mode. This is the longest era
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which can last over three decades. A
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third turning point around the age of 66
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marks the start of an early aging phase
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of brain architecture. And finally, the
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late aging brain takes shape around the
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age of 83 years old.
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So what's going on inside the noggin?
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Well, during the early childhood phase,
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the brain underos network consolidation
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as a wealth of synapses, that's the
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connections between neurons over
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produced in a baby's brain are
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whittleled down with only the more
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active ones surviving. Across the whole
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human brain, connections rewire in the
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same pattern from birth until about 9
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years of age. Meanwhile, gray and white
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matter grow rapidly in volume. So that
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cortical thickness that's the distance
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between the outer gray matter and the
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inner white matter reaches a peak and
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cortical folding that's the
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characteristic ridges on the outer brain
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stabilizes by the first turning point at
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around the age of nine the brain is
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experiencing a step change in cognitive
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capacity as well as an increased risk of
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mental health disorders. The second
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epoch of the brain that's the adolescent
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era sees white matter continue to grow
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in volume. So organization of the
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brain's communications network is
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increasingly refined as measured by the
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diffusion of water in the scans. This
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era is defined by the efficiency of
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connections both within specific regions
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as well as rapid communication right
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across the whole brain which is related
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to enhanced cognitive performance.
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Neural efficiency is well connected by
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short pathways and the adolescent era is
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the only one in which this efficiencies
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increasing. The authors say these
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developments of the brain peak in the
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early 30s which is the strongest
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topological turning point for the entire
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lifespan. At age 32, the longest era
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that of adulthood begins. Brain
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architecture stabilizes compared to
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previous phases with no major turning
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points for 30 years and corresponds with
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a plateau in intelligence and
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personality. They also found segregation
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is more noticeable during this epoch as
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different regions of the brain slowly
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start to become more compartmentalized.
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The turning point at age 66 sees reduced
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connectivity as white matter starts to
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degenerate. The last turning point comes
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around the age of 83 when the brain
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structure shifts from global to local
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regions as neural connectivity declines.
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A long-term study has shown that water
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fluidation doesn't have any negative
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effects on brain development. In fact,
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the findings reported in the journal
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Science Advances actually found a slight
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boost in cognition in children. Previous
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studies looked at exposure to very high
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levels of fluoride far beyond
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recommended standards. So, the authors
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of this new research wanted to study
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levels representative of what one would
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usually find in their tap water. They
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looked at language and math test results
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from around 58,000 United States high
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school kids in 1980 and the water
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fluidation levels they would have
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experienced since conception. After
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accounting for other factors, they found
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kids continuously exposed to at least
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0.7 mg per liter of water fluoride had
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better test results, followed by those
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exposed to similar levels for just part
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of their childhood.
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China's People Liberation Army has
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reported the successful test of a new
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type of non-uclear hydrogen bomb. A
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report in the Chinese Language Journal
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of Projectiles, Rockets, Missiles, and
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Guidance claims the new weapon generates
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a white hot fireball that can last 15
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times longer than a TNT blast. The 2 kg
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device uses magnesium hydide, a
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magnesium based solid state hydrogen
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material, which generated a fireball of
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over a,000° C. This material stores
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considerably more hydrogen than a
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pressurized tank and was originally
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developed to bring the gas to off-grid
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areas where it could then be used to
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power fuel cells for clean electricity
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and heat. When activated by conventional
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explosives, the magnesium hydide bomb
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underwent rapid thermal decomposition,
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releasing hydrogen gas that ignited into
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a sustained, rapidly spreading inferno.
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The chain reaction begins when
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detonation shock waves fracture
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magnesium hydide into micron scale
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particles exposing fresh surfaces. Under
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constrained detonation, peak over
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pressure reached 428.43 kilopascals at 2
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m, about 40% that of TNT's blast force,
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but with a far greater heat projection
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range.
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Well, the doomsday countdown to digital
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ID is now on. This time next week,
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Australia's controversial new social
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media bans for children under the age of
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16 will come into effect. The world
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first legislation is being marketed as a
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way to protect kids from bullying. But
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it doesn't stop kids using left-wing
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social media platforms like Blue Sky or
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for that matter chat rooms in many of
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the most popular computer games.
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In reality, it's a thinly disguised
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Trojan horse designed to force all
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Australian adults to adopt a digital ID,
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as if they want to retain access to
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their own social media accounts. It's a
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way around the public's objection to the
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defeated Australia card ID scheme of the
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1980s, which was overwhelmingly rejected
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by the people. So, why the
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fear-mongering? Well, digital ID will
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allow faceless bureaucrats, security
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organizations, and politicians to
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develop a big brother style digital link
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connecting everything, monitoring
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everything you do, where you go, what
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you look at, and even what you say. In
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the process, providing fact-based
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insights into what you're thinking. Then
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there's the issue of security and how
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easily your digital ID and all it
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contains about you can be hacked. Your
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digital ID will be the Australian answer
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to Beijing's social credit scheme, where
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those not considered worthy by China's
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Communist Party face restrictions in
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where they can live, where they can go,
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what they have access to, how they can
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travel, and where their children can go
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to school. Australians saw the first
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hints of what's to come during the COVID
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pandemic when voluntary digital ID
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schemes were repeatedly used by police
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to track people's movements. Technology
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editor Alex Haravo from techadvice.life
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life says in simple terms this new
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digital ID scheme will be a key step in
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the erosion of people's rights. It's
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only one small slice but step by step
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those rights will disappear and it all
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starts next week.
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>> Look there seems to be this concerted
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effort globally to want to set up
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digital ID and this clearly is something
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that will remove anonymity from the
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internet. everything you do will be
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tracked and it's all being done under
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the guise of won't somebody protect the
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children and you know Roblox for example
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has algorithms you got to take a photo
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of your face and they're looking at the
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various things you've been doing in the
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system but ultimately we're relying upon
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algorithms to figure these things out
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and the only real way of doing it is to
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get some sort of an ID from a parent
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from you know a passport something to
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prove that you are of a certain age but
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again this is going to remove anonymity
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from the internet and everything that
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you will do will be tracked and so there
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is a movement now to not comply with
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digital ID. But this is happening
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globally around the world. Governments
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are all coming together to put these
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social media bans in place. Malaysia is
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doing it. The UK wants digital ID. And
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uh I don't know if VPNs are going to be
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enough. There needs to be a push back
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from the public to say no. And even in
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Australia, we have a couple of young
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kids who are taking the government to
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the high court to have the digital ID
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system blocked. So this seems to be a
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watershed moment in um the modern
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civilization. Is this really part of a
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surreptitious effort by governments to
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just gain control over everything you
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have access to, all the information you
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get?
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>> Well, it look it certainly seems that
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way. I mean, everything that the
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governments have been trying to do, even
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in Australia, we had conservative and
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socialist governments and they tried all
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sorts of firewalls and they tried
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various things to to try and control
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people.
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>> Yeah, we had the attempt of an Australia
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card years ago and uh the citizenry
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resoundly said no to that. But it
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doesn't stop the bureaucrats or or the
00:26:52.320 --> 00:26:53.750
politicians from wanting to implement
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that. We had a situation where we had
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special ID for co that simply gave the
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police a chance to to track everyone's
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movements.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Papers, please. As we saw in
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Nazi Germany. Look, the problem is that
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the unelected deep state globally wants
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control. They want to stay in power.
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They want to do the things they have
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been accused of doing um and maintain
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power and debase the currency and do all
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these things that some claim are
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conspiracies. But it's clear that if you
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can maintain your position of power and
00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:22.710
you can worm your way through the
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system, why wouldn't you do it? And
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we've seen that time and again
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throughout history and in the 21st
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century with all of the digital
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technologies now at the disposal of big
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tech, but also government. Well, we're
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seeing them work together and trying to
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hold people down. I mean, thank goodness
00:27:35.360 --> 00:27:37.430
for the United States and their first
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:39.190
amendment. The deep space is fighting
00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:42.149
back and uh it's up to us as citizens,
00:27:42.159 --> 00:27:44.789
global citizens to say no, we don't want
00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:48.470
unelected people to usurp our privacy.
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:50.549
>> We're sort of seeing human rights
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:52.630
disappear one by one. And it's not that
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:53.990
they're being taken from us. The
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:56.149
citizenry are gladly giving them up, it
00:27:56.159 --> 00:27:57.669
seems, for an easier life.
00:27:57.679 --> 00:27:59.430
>> Benjamin Franklin said that if you give
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:01.110
up a little liberty for a little
00:28:01.120 --> 00:28:03.590
security, then you deserve neither. And
00:28:03.600 --> 00:28:06.549
this is where people abdicating their
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:09.190
responsibilities as human beings to big
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:11.430
brother is the fast track to dystopia. I
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:12.870
mean that's why we had Animal Farm.
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:14.470
That's why we had 1984 from George
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:16.149
Orwell. That's why we've had so many
00:28:16.159 --> 00:28:18.389
movies and TV shows about dystopia
00:28:18.399 --> 00:28:20.549
because people are worried. I mean these
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:22.549
are warnings to ourselves to not let
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:23.990
this sort of thing happen to us. We live
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:26.310
at a time where as Ronald Reagan said,
00:28:26.320 --> 00:28:28.470
freedom and liberty is not passed down
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:30.070
through the bloodline but must be fought
00:28:30.080 --> 00:28:32.389
for and protected by every generation.
00:28:32.399 --> 00:28:34.950
And uh we stand at the point at which
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:36.710
the future generations of this planet
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:38.310
could be living under dystopia. Let's
00:28:38.320 --> 00:28:39.350
hope that that doesn't happen.
00:28:39.360 --> 00:28:40.789
>> That's Alex Aharavoy from
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:42.710
techadvice.life.
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:44.549
And just in case you think advanced
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:46.230
algorithms will circumvent all the
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:48.950
problems of digital IDs, think again.
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:50.149
Remember these are the same
00:28:50.159 --> 00:28:52.070
sophisticated algorithms which keep
00:28:52.080 --> 00:28:54.070
flagging up space-time posts displaying
00:28:54.080 --> 00:28:56.549
astronomical images of exoplanets as
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:59.669
possible pornography. I mean, granted it
00:28:59.679 --> 00:29:01.510
is space porn, but that's not what the
00:29:01.520 --> 00:29:03.830
algorithms are thinking. This is
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