May 7, 2025

The Cosmic Origins of Uranium, Vesta’s Surprising Identity, and Mars’ Ancient Climate

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The Cosmic Origins of Uranium, Vesta’s Surprising Identity, and Mars’ Ancient Climate

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This episode of SpaceTime dives deep into the cosmos, revealing groundbreaking insights into the origins of heavy elements and the geological history of Mars.First, we explore a revolutionary study that uncovers how giant exploding stars produce uranium and other heavy elements. Researchers are now investigating gamma-ray burst jets and the surrounding cocoon formed by collapsed stars. This new framework suggests that high-energy photons can dissolve stellar material into neutrons, leading to the creation of heavy elements through a rapid neutron capture process. We discuss the implications of these findings and how they challenge long-held beliefs about nucleosynthesis in the universe. Shattering Beliefs About Asteroid Vesta

Next, we turn our attention to the asteroid Vesta, where a recent study published in Nature Astronomy reveals that its interior structure is far more uniform than previously thought. This discovery has led scientists to reconsider Vesta's identity, proposing that it may simply be a large asteroid rather than a protoplanet. We examine the research that challenges decades of assumptions about Vesta's formation and its role in understanding the early solar system. Did It Rain or Snow on Ancient Mars?

Finally, we investigate the ancient climate of Mars, with a new study suggesting that geological formations on the planet were shaped by heavy precipitation, indicating a warmer and wetter past. This research utilizes computer simulations to analyze how rain and snow may have contributed to the development of Martian valleys and channels. We discuss the significance of these findings and their implications for our understanding of Mars's climatic history. www.spacetimewithstuartgary.com ( https://www.spacetimewithstuartgary.com/)

✍️ Episode References

Astrophysical Journal

https://iopscience.iop.org/journal/0004-637X ( https://iopscience.iop.org/journal/0004-637X)

Nature Astronomy

https://www.nature.com/natureastronomy/ ( https://www.nature.com/natureastronomy/)

Journal of Geophysical Research Planets

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/21699356 ( https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/21699356)

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00:00 New study provides clues explaining how exploding stars produce uranium and other heavy elements

06:21 New study suggests giant asteroid Vesta is really just a big asteroid

15:19 New study suggests heavy precipitation likely fed valleys on ancient Mars

19:49 A new study warns that microplastic pollution could compromise ocean carbon

22:17 More than 31,000 passwords belonging to Australian banks have been stolen

24:47 Space Time is available every Monday, Wednesday and Friday through bitesz.com ( https://play.headliner.app/episode/26995605?utm_source=youtube

00:00 - New study provides clues explaining how exploding stars produce uranium and other heavy elements

06:21 - New study suggests giant asteroid Vesta is really just a big asteroid

15:19 - New study suggests heavy precipitation likely fed valleys on ancient Mars

19:49 - A new study warns that microplastic pollution could compromise ocean carbon

22:17 - More than 31,000 passwords belonging to Australian banks have been stolen

24:47 - Space Time is available every Monday, Wednesday and Friday through bitesz.com

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This is Spacetime series 28 episode 55


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for broadcast on the 7th of May 2025.


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Coming up on Spaceime, how giant


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exploding stars make uranium, shattering


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long-held beliefs about the main belt


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asteroid Vesta, and a new study


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resolving the question of whether it


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rained or snowed on ancient Mars. All


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that and more coming up on Spaceime.


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Welcome to Spaceime with Stuart Garry.


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[Music]




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A new study has provided fresh clues


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explaining how exploding stars produce


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uranium and other heavy elements by


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quite literally dissolving into


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neutrons. Understanding the origin of


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heavy elements on the periodic table is


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one of the most challenging open


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problems in all of physics. We know that


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all the elements other than hydrogen and


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helium and small amounts of lithium and


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burillium which were created in the big


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bang 13.8 billion years ago are created


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in stars either during their lifetimes


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as they evolve or through spectacular


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supernova as they die. In the search for


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understanding the conditions suitable


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for creating these elements through


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nuclear synthesis, scientists are now


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going where no researchers have gone


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before. They're looking at gammaray


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burst jets in the surrounding cocoon


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emerging from collapsed stars. A report


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in the astrophysical journal suggests


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that high energy photons produced deep


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inside gammaray burst jets could


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dissolve the outer layers of a star into


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neutrons causing a series of processes


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that may will result in the formation of


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heavy elements. One of the study's


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authors, Matthew Mumpower from the Los


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Alamos National Laboratory says the


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creation of heavy elements such as


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uranium plutonium necessitates extreme


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conditions. The thing is there are only


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a few viable yet very rare scenarios in


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which these elements can form and all of


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these hypotheses require the need for


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copious amounts of neutrons. So Mau and


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colleagues are proposing a new


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phenomenon whereby those neutrons don't


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pre-exist but are produced dramatically


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by the star itself. Freeflying neutrons


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have a short half-life of just 15


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minutes. That limits the sort of


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scenarios in which they're available in


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the abundances needed to form heavy


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elements. Now the key to producing the


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heaviest elements on the periodic table


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is known as the rapid neutron capture


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process and it's thought to be


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responsible for the production of all


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the naturally occurring thorium, uranium


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and plutonium in the universe. The


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author's framework takes on the


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challenging physics of this process and


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then resolves it by proposing reactions


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around the stars collapse which could


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result in heavy element formation.


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In addition to understanding the


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formation of heavy elements, the


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proposed framework also helps address


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critical questions around neutron


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transport, multifysics simulations and


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the observations of rare events. Now in


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this scenario Mau proposes a massive


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star begins to die as its nuclear fuel


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runs out. Eventually the balancing act


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between the outward push of nuclear


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energy as the star burns fuel and the


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inward pull of gravity comes to an end


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and gravity wins. no longer able to push


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up against its own gravity, the star


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collapses, forming a black hole at its


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center. Now, if the black hole is


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spinning fast enough, frame dragging


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effects from the extremely strong


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gravitational field near the black hole,


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wind up the magnetic field, and launch


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powerful jets. Now, through subsequent


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reactions, a broad spectrum of photons


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are created, some of which are at very


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high energies. That includes gamma rays.


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Mau says, "These photon jets blast


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through the star ahead of it, creating a


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hot cocoon of material around the jet,


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sort of like a freight train plowing


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through snow. At the interface between


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the jet and the stellar material, high


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energy photons can interact with atomic


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nuclei, transmuting the photons into


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neutrons, literally turning energy into


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matter. Now, existing atomic nuclei may


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also be dissolved into individual


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nucleons, creating more free neutrons to


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power the process. The calculations


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suggest interaction with light and


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matter can create neutrons incredibly


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quickly on the order of a nancond. Now


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because they're charged, protons get


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trapped in the jet by the strong


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magnetic fields. But neutrons which are


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chargeless are plowed out of the jet


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into the cocoon. Having experienced a


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relativistic shock, the neutrons are


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extremely dense compared to the


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surrounding stellar material and


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therefore a rapid neutron capture


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process could occur with heavy elements


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and isotopes being forged then expelled


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out into space as the stars ripped


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apart. The process of protons converting


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into neutrons along with free neutrons


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escaping into the surrounding cocoon to


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form heavy elements involves a broad


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range of physics principles and


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encompasses all four fundamental forces


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of nature. a true multifysics problem


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combining areas of atomic and nuclear


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physics with hydrodnamics and general


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relativity. But more challenges remain


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as the heavy isotopes created during


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this rapid neutron capture process have


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never been produced on Earth.


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Researchers know little about their


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properties such as their atomic weight


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and half-life. Still, the high energy


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jet framework produced by the authors


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may help explain the origins of


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kilanova, a glow of optical and infrared


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electromagnetic radiation associated


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with longduration gammaray bursts.


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Kilanovas have been primarily associated


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with the collision of two neutron stars


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or through the merger of a neutron star


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and a black hole. Now, these intense


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collisions are one possible method for


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confirming with observations the cosmic


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factories of heavy element formation.


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But star dissolution through high energy


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photon jets offer an alternative origin


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for the production of heavy elements and


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the killer nerve they may manufacture. A


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possibility not previously thought to be


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associated with collapsing stars. As a


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side note, it's worth remembering that


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scientists have observed iron and


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plutonium in deep sea sediments. These


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deposits are known to come from


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extraterrestrial sources. Though as with


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the phenomena producing killer, the


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specific location or cosmic event


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remains elusive.


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So the collapser high energy jet


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scenario represents an intriguing


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possibility as the source for these


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heavy elements found deep under the sea.


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This is


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spaceime still to come. Shattering some


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long-held beliefs about the asteroid


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Vesta and a new study supported the


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long-held scientific view that


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geological formations seen on the red


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planet Mars were formed by water and


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snow billions of years ago. All that and


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more still to come on


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A new study suggests that the mysterious


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word of Vesta is really just a big


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asteroid. The findings reported in the


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journal Nature Astronomy show that


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Vesta's interior structure is far more


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uniform than previously thought. The


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discovery has shocked many researchers


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who until now assumed Vesta was a


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protolanet that never grew to its full


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potential. For decades, scientists


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believed that Vesta, one of the largest


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objects in the main asteroid belt


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between Mars and Jupiter, wasn't just


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another asteroid. They concluded that


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Vesta had a crust, a mantle, and a core,


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and they're the fundamental properties


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of celestial bodies like planets. So


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astronomers have been studying Vesta for


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clues as to how early planets grew and


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what the Earth might have looked like in


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its infancy. One of the studies authors,


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Seth Jacobson from Michigan State


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University, says the lack of a core


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investor was really quite surprising. So


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what was Vesta's true identity? Well,


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the authors have come up with two


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hypotheses that need further


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exploration. The first is that Vesta


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went through an incomplete


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differentiation, meaning it started the


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melting process needed to give the


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asteroid distinct layers like a core,


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mantle, and crust, but it never finished


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them. The second, which Jacobson first


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floated an astronomy conference years


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ago, is that Vesta is really just a


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broken chunk off a growing planet.


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Jacobson wanted other researchers to


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consider the possibility that some


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meteorites could be debris from


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collisions that took place during the


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planetary formation era 4.6 billion


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years ago. He says that idea went from a


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somewhat silly suggestion to a


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hypothesis that astronomers are now


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taking seriously due to a reanalysis of


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data from NASA's dawn mission. See, most


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asteroids are made of very ancient


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condritic material appearing like cosmic


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sedimentary gravel. Now, in contrast,


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Vesta's surface is covered in volcanic


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basaltic rocks. And these rocks


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indicated to scientists that Vista went


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through a melting process called


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planetary differentiation where the


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metal sinks to the center and forms a


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core. NASA launched the Dawn spacecraft


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in 2007 to study Veester and series, the


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two largest objects in the main asteroid


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belt. The goal was to better understand


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how planets formed. Dawn spent many


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months in 2011 and 2012 orbiting Vesta,


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measuring its gravitational field,


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taking highresolution images, and


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creating a very detailed map of its


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surface. It then performed similar tasks


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around the dwarf planet series. The


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mission finally reaching an end in


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2018. Jacobson says the more they use


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the data, the better they got at


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processing it, and they found ways to


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more accurately calibrate measurements,


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yielding an improved picture of Vesta's


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makeup. Eventually, they decided to


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reprocess Vesta's measurements. But for


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years, conflicting gravity data from


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Dawn's observations of Vesta created


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puzzles. After nearly a decade of


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refining their calibration and


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processing techniques, they finally


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achieved a remarkable alignment between


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Dorne's deep space network radiometric


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data and onboard imaging data. The


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authors were eventually able to show


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that Vesta's history is far more complex


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than previously thought and it was


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shaped by unique processes like


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interrupted planetary differentiation


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and late stage collisions. Planetary


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scientists can estimate the size of


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celestial body's core by measuring


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what's called the moment of inertia. It


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describes how difficult it is to change


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the rotation of an object around its


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axis. Jacobson compared the concept to a


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figure skater spinning on ice. They


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change their speed by pulling their arms


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in to speed up and moving them outwards


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again to slow down. So their moment of


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inertia is changed by changing the


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position of their arms. Now in a similar


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way, an object in space with a larger


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core is a bit like a ballerina with her


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arms pulled in. Celestial bodies with a


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dense core move differently through


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space than ones with no core at all. And


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with this knowledge, the authors


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measured the rotation and gravitational


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field of Vesta. The results showed that


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Vesta didn't behave like an object with


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a core, challenging prior ideas about


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how it formed. Of course, neither


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hypothesis has been fully explored


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enough to rule either out, and both have


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problems that still require a lot more


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research to explain. Now, while


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incomplete differentiation is possible,


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it doesn't line up with the meteorites


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researchers have collected over time.


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Jacobson says he's very confident these


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meteorites came from Vesta and they


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don't show any obvious evidence of


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incomplete differentiation. The


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alternative explanation is based on the


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idea that as the terrestrial planets


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formed large collisions occurred mostly


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growing the planets but also generating


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impact debris. Ejected materials from


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these collisions would include rocks


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resulting from melting and like Vesta


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they wouldn't have a core. Jacobson's


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lab's already exploring the consequences


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of giant impacts during the planetary


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formation era. He's now working on the


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idea that some asteroids in the main


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belt are pieces ejected from the growing


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planets. But the idea is still far from


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proven. More models need to be created


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and fine-tuned to prove that Vista is an


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ancient chunk of a forming planet.


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Jacobson says the paper's really only


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the beginning of a new direction of


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study that could forever change how


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scientists look at differentiated


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worlds. No longer is the Vesta meteorite


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collection simply a sample of a body in


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space that failed to make it into a


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planet. Instead, they could be pieces of


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an ancient planet before it grew to full


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completion. Scientists just don't know


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which planet yet. The answers may be


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contained in the Dawn data. This report


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from NASA


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TV. You know, when you work on a mission


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this long, it feels like a part of you.


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I've been a space enthusiast since I was


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four years


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old. Getting to work on a mission like


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this is it's a dream come


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true. To me, Dawn is truly Earth's first


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interplanetary spaceship.


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No other spacecraft has gone to a


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distant body, gone into orbit around it,


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maneuvered there, then broken out of


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orbit, traveled elsewhere in the solar


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system to another alien world and gone


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into orbit around it. And it does that


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with ion propulsion, which I first heard


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of in a Star Trek


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episode. We've turned ion propulsion


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from science fiction into science fact.


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The Dawn mission really is a journey


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back to the beginning of the solar


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system and that's why we call it


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Dawn. We chose two time capsules from


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the beginning of the solar system, Vesta


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and Series, which are the most massive


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and largest bodies in the main asteroid


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belt. They both formed very early when


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the solar system was forming out of the


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protolanetary disc. And yet they ended


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up in these two very different states.


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Vesta is a dry, rocky body that looks a


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lot like our


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moon, whereas seriesir had a lot of


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water and it looks much more like the


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icy moons of the outer solar


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system. And it seems like what


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determined their eventual fate was the


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location where they started. And we now


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believe that series formed much farther


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from the sun than it is now. When Dawn


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found the bright material in series,


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what we saw was completely


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mind-blowing, it was made of sodium


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carbonate. Sodium carbonate is not


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common in the solar system, but we see


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it coming out of the plumes of


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Enceladus. We see it in lakes on Earth.


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And here it was on the surface of


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series. Dawn serves as a lasting


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reminder that the passion for bold


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adventures and our noble aspirations to


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reach out into the cosmos take us far


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far beyond the confines of our humble


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home here on planet Earth. In that


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report from NASA TV, we heard from Dawn


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chief engineer and mission director Mark


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Raymond and Dawn principal investigator


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Carol Raymond. This is spaceime still to


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A new study has supported the long-held


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scientific view that geological


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formations seen on the red planet Mars


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suggests that heavy precipitation likely


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fed many networks of valleys and


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channels that shaped the Martian surface


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billions of years ago. The findings


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reported in the Journal of Geophysical


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Research Planets paints a picture of a


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world that was relatively warm and wet,


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very different from the frigid wasteland


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we know today. The study's lead author


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Amanda Steckle from the University of


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Colorado Boulder says you can pull up


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Google Earth images of places like Utah


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and then zoom out and you'd see


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similarities to the red planet Mars.


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Now, most scientists today agree that at


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least some water existed on the surface


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of Mars during the Noin epoch roughly


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between 4.1 and 3.7 billion years ago.


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But exactly where that water came from


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has long been a mystery. Other


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researchers say ancient Mars wasn't ever


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warm and wet. It was always a cold and


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dry desert. Now during the no chin, the


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solar systems then young sun was only


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about 75% as bright as it is today.


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Sprawling ice caps may therefore have


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covered the highlands around the Martian


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equator, occasionally melting for short


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periods of time. So Stel and colleagues


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set out to investigate the warm wet


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versus cold dry hypotheses of the past


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Martian climate. They drew on computer


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simulations to explore how water may


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have shaped the surface of Mars.


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billions of years ago and they found


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that it was precipitation from either


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snow or rain which likely formed the


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patterns of valleys and headwaters that


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are still visible on Mars today. Stickle


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says these valleys began in a large


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range of elevations and it's hard to


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explain that with just ice. Now


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satellite images of Mars today still


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reveal the fingerprints of water on the


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red planet. Around the equator, for


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example, vast networks of channels


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spread from the Martian highlands,


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branching like trees and emptying into


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lakes and even possibly a Martian


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northern ocean. In fact, NASA's Mars


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Perseverance rover, which landed on the


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red planet in 2021, is currently


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exploring Jezro Crater, the site of one


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of these ancient lakes. During the


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Nurin, a powerful river emptied into


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this region, depositing a delta of


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sediment on top of the crater floor. To


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study that ancient past, Steel and


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colleagues essentially created a digital


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version of a portion of Mars. They drew


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computer simulations originally


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developed for Earth studies and then


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used software to model the evolution of


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the landscape on synthetic terrain that


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resembles Mars close to its equator. In


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some cases, the authors added water to


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that terrain from falling precipitation.


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And in other cases, they included


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melting ice caps. Then in the simulation


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they let the water flow for tens to


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hundreds of thousands of years. The


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authors then examine the patterns that


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formed as a result and specifically


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where the headwaters feeding Mars's


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branching valleys emerged. The scenarios


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produced very different planets. In the


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case of melting ice caps, those valley


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heads formed largely at high elevations


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roughly around the edge of where the


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ancient ice sat. But in the


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precipitation examples, Martian


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headwaters were much more widespread,


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forming at elevations ranging from below


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the planet's average surface to


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altitudes of more than 11,000 ft high.


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STE says water from these ice caps


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starts to form valleys only around a


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very narrow band of elevations. Whereas,


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if you had distributed precipitation,


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you can have valley heads forming


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everywhere. The authors then compared


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these predictions with actual data from


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the Martian surface taken by NASA's Mars


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Global Surveyor and Mars Odyssey


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spacecraft. And the simulations that


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included precipitation lined up more


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closely with the real red planet surface


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data. Now, the authors are quick to


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point out that these results are not the


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final word on Mars's ancient climate. In


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particular, how the planet managed to


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stay warm enough to support snow and


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rain still isn't clear, but that's for


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another paper. This is


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[Music]


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spaceime. And time now to take another


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brief look at some of the other stories


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making news in science this week with a


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science report. A new study warns that


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microlastic pollution is now everywhere.


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A report in the journal Nature says that


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most research on microplastics in the


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ocean is focused on water near the


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surface, but it says that could


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compromise a measurable part of the


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carbon that cycles through the ocean.


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The authors studied microplastic


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distribution recorded in different ocean


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depths at over 1,800 stations around the


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world between 2014 and 2024.


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They found that although microplastic


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pieces decreased in number with depth,


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they increased as a percentage of total


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organic carbon particles from 0.1% at 30


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m to 5% at 2,000 m in depth. The authors


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say a more consistent study method and


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international coordination and


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monitoring would help clarify exactly


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where microplastics end up in the ocean.


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A new study warns that healthare workers


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who wash their scrubs and uniforms at


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home may unknowingly be contributing to


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the spread of antibioticresistant


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infections. A report in the journal plus


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one looked at how well six models of


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home washing machines decontaminated


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swatches of a contaminated healthcare


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workers's uniform using hot water and


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either a rapid or normal cycle. They


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found that half of the machines they


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tested couldn't disinfect the clothes


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during the rapid cycle and a third


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failed to clean the fabric sufficiently


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even during a full cycle. Additionally,


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the authors sampled the insides of 12


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washing machines for any nasties that


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could have built up inside them. Not


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only did they find potentially


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pathogenic bacteria, but they also found


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that some had antibioticresistant genes.


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In an amazing discovery, a new study has


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revealed that spruce trees not only


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respond to solar eclipses, but actively


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anticipate them by synchronizing their


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biological signals hours in advance into


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a cohesive forestwide phenomenon. The


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stunning discovery reported in the


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journal of the Royal Society Open


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Science also shows that older trees


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exhibit a more pronounced early


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response, suggesting that these ancient


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sentinels retain decades of


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environmental memory and may use that to


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inform younger trees of impending


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events. The study adds to the emerging


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evidence that plants are active


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community of participants in their


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ecosystems capable of very complex


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coordinated behaviors akin to those we


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see in animal groups. Makes you wonder


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whether lettuce really could scream when


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you eat


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it. More than 31,000 passwords belonging


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to Combank, A&Z, Westpack, and NAB


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customers have been stolen and are now


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being shared online by cyber criminals.


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The passwords were stolen directly from


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users devices infected with


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infrastru.life.


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Well, there were more than 31,000 of


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these passwords belonging to customers


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of the big four banks. And not only are


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these available online and for sale, but


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they can actually be available free of


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charge as well because there's seemingly


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they have so many of them. So, while


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some of this information may have been


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leaked in previous password hacks, in


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this case, people using Windows


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computers have been targeted by malware.


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And this can sometimes be from their


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kids or themselves looking for pirate


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content to unlock various games or apps


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or just pirating digital media and


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somehow they get their computer


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installed, normally a Windows PC, with


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malware. And so, this info stealer


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malware would then give the criminals


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back door access into the user's


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computer. they could use a key logger to


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see any changes they were making and


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even capture the authentication token


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for when two factor authentication had


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gone through thus you know able to steal


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people's money and cause a lot of havoc.


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You need to make sure that you have


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solid internet security software but


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also and you should do that anyway


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irrespective of your you know banking


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login details but you can also use a


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different computer device you can use an


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iPhone an iPad an Android tablet a Mac a


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Linux computer something else that


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you've also secured but iPads and


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iPhones normally and Macs are the


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generally speaking the most secure of


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all so if you use a different device for


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your sensitive login to superenuation


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which got hacked recently as well and


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bank websites and other sites that are


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sensitive then your main computer, even


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if it does get affected, shouldn't


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affect this other device. There's been


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another attack just the other day, too,


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wasn't there? Yes, this just came out


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that cyber criminals have stolen nearly


00:27:21.360 --> 00:27:24.390
100 staff login from Australia's big


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four banks and obviously that puts those


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businesses at risk. These are


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compromised staff credentials now and


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according to reports, this can allow


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hackers to get into initial access of


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the systems from these banks and you can


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be running all the latest software.


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there are zero day vulnerabilities that


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can be at play that allows sophisticated


00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:45.510
attackers to break into various systems.


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So, you know, you need to make sure your


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data is backed up, that all your devices


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are up to date in case of some


00:27:49.520 --> 00:27:51.269
ransomware or other attack that you've


00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:53.110
got the ability to do quick disaster


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recovery and get going again. Otherwise,


00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:56.789
this sort of attack can shut businesses


00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:58.870
down. That's Alex Sahara from


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techadvice.life.


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