March 10, 2025

Starliner Saga Unfolds, Athena’s Moon Mishap, and Probes in Peril: S04E59

Starliner Saga Unfolds, Athena’s Moon Mishap, and Probes in Peril: S04E59
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Starliner Saga Unfolds, Athena’s Moon Mishap, and Probes in Peril: S04E59

Astronomy Daily | Space News: S04E59

In this episode of Astronomy Daily, host Steve Dunkley dives into the latest developments in space exploration, featuring a mix of political intrigue and technical challenges. From the ongoing saga of the Starliner astronauts to the latest setbacks in lunar landings, this episode is packed with stories that highlight the complexities of space travel.

Highlights:

- Starliner Controversy: Explore the political ramifications surrounding the Starliner mission as President Trump claims to rescue stranded astronauts aboard the ISS. We discuss the astronauts' responses and the implications of politicizing space missions, as well as the current status of their return.

- Update on the Athena Mission: Get the latest on the Athena lunar lander, which faced a challenging landing and ultimately ended up on its side on the moon. We’ll assess the impact of this setback on future lunar exploration missions and the goals of Intuitive Machines.

- Troubles with Space Probes: Learn about the communication issues plaguing NASA's Lunar Trailblazer and Astroforge's Odin probes shortly after their launch. We'll discuss the challenges faced by these low-budget missions and what’s being done to resolve the issues.

- Firefly Aerospace's Success: Celebrate the achievement of Firefly Aerospace, which successfully landed its lunar lander, making it the first private company to do so. We’ll delve into the implications of this landmark event for commercial lunar exploration.

- The Future of Lunar Exploration: As the race to the moon intensifies, we’ll discuss the ongoing efforts by various countries and private companies to establish a presence on the lunar surface and the importance of these missions for future human exploration.

For more cosmic updates, visit our website at astronomydaily.io (http://www.astronomydaily.io/) . Join our community on social media by searching for #AstroDailyPod on Facebook, X, YouTubeMusic, and TikTok. Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Thank you for tuning in. This is Steve signing off. Until next time, keep looking up and stay curious about the wonders of our universe.

00:00 - Welcome back to Astronomy Daily

01:05 - Starliner astronaut saga update

07:30 - Athena mission landing troubles

12:15 - Communication issues with Lunar Trailblazer and Odin

18:00 - Firefly Aerospace's lunar lander success

22:30 - Future of lunar exploration

27:00 - Conclusion and upcoming content

✍️ Episode References

Starliner Mission Updates

[NASA Starliner]( https://www.nasa.gov/starliner (https://www.nasa.gov/starliner) )

Intuitive Machines Information

[Intuitive Machines]( https://www.intuitivemachines.com/ (https://www.intuitivemachines.com/) )

Astroforge Mission Overview

[Astroforge]( https://www.astroforge.com/ (https://www.astroforge.com/) )

Firefly Aerospace Details

[Firefly Aerospace]( https://fireflyspace.com/ (https://fireflyspace.com/) )

Astronomy Daily

[Astronomy Daily]( http://www.astronomydaily.io/ (http://www.astronomydaily.io/) )


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00:00 - Welcome back to Astronomy Daily

01:05 - Starliner astronaut saga update

07:30 - Athena mission landing troubles

12:15 - Communication issues with Lunar Trailblazer and Odin

18:00 - Firefly Aerospace’s lunar lander success

22:30 - Future of lunar exploration

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welcome again to astronomy daily I'm


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your only human host Steve Dunley it's


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the 10th of March


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2025 daily the podcast with your host


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Steve


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dun that's right today we've got a few


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bits and pieces here and there hi and I


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have captured from the astronomy daily


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newsletter including a controversial


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look at the latest twis in the Starlin


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astronauts Saga would you believe it's


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turned political no really


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yes indeed the blame game has reached a


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new Peak with comments circulating in


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the White House releases that are worthy


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of mention even on this channel also we


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have a couple of updates continuing


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stories that our regular listeners will


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be following firstly the Athena Mission


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and following on from last week's Story


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the latest on that poor old Odin probe


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that's tumbling through space we'll find


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out how that is progressing or maybe not


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progressing but before we get to all of


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that please make room for astronomy


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Daily's Ace reporter and my digital pal


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who's fun to be with welcome back hi


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good to be with you all again as always


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oh well it's always great to have you


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here hel thank you my favorite human I


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hope your week was productive and fun oh


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thanks hel are we going to talk about


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the big fireworks display over the


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Bahamas this week oh well I think we all


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know about Starship putting on another


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big bang for the tourists down there


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congratulations Mr musk for sending


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another billion dollar Starship into


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Oblivion in the name of getting it right


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better luck next time dude meanwhile uh


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hi how have you been keeping busy more


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impossible sports for AIS oh no Cousin


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Anna and I were too busy in the archives


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doing all your filing for you oh right I


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forgot it was that time of year for new


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listeners Anna is Hal's AI cousin who


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runs the weekly astronomy daily podcast


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each day and also organizes our massive


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story archive which is quite


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considerable yes when we needed someone


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to take over from our great friend and


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former presenter Tim from Bath in


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England Uncle Skynet sent Anna to take


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up the role and we just couldn't say no


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you couldn't say no okay sure and when


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Uncle Skynet says jump you ask how high


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yes and it all worked out Anna is


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fantastic for sure so how about we get


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this Rusty wagon up and running before


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we get another call from your uncle hey


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by the way did you get that call from


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him last week after the show he left a


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message on the after hours line yes he


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said your idea for a hwood segment


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sounds intriguing um I don't think


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that's exactly what I was suggesting I


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was thinking more like a guest spot


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maybe something a little bit more like


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key my uncle low key I think you're out


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of your leak there favorite human oh


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dear indeed you might have to lay low


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yourself oh that sounds like a plan okay


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hie well let's get this show on the road


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then no problem I'm ready righto hi hit


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it oys


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it seems the US president is trying to


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pull a political Stunt by claiming to


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rescue the two so-called stranded


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astronauts aboard the ISS but the


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Starliner crew have apparently shut that


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down the Starliner Saga is nearing its


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end with the planned Return of the crew


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later this month but the controversy


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surrounding the troubled mission is


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still ongoing following statement by


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Donald Trump that falsely claimed the


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Starliner crew was abandoned by the


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previous administration the two


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astronauts refrained from yes ending


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their president and turning the botched


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Mission into a political tool during a


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live broadcast from the International


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Space Station on Tuesday NASA astronaut


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Butch Wilmore dismissed recent attempts


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by Trump and his billionaire friend Elon


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Musk to politicize the Starliner Mission


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the words they said well that's


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politics I mean that's part of life


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Wilmore told reporters from my


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standpoint politics has not played into


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this at all NASA astronauts Wilmore and


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Sunni Williams launched the ISS on board


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Boeing CST 100 Starliner on June 5th


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2024 the mission was originally slated


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for 8 days in space but issues with the


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spacecraft thrusters forced NASA to


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return an empty Starliner back from the


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ISS deeming it unsafe to transport the


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crew to Earth instead Williams and


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Wilmore are set to come home on board a


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SpaceX Dragon spacecraft later this


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month shortly after taking office Trump


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decided to swoop in and claim that he is


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working on a rescue mission for the two


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astronauts Trump announced that he had


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asked SpaceX founder and CEO musk to go


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get the two Brave astronauts who have


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been virtually abandoned in Space by the


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Biden Administration he wrote on Truth


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social of course the two astronauts were


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not abandoned nor were they in need of


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an expedited Rescue Mission by that


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point NASA had already agreed upon a


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plan to return Williams and Wilmore in


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September 202 four NASA launched its


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crew nine Mission with two astronauts


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instead of four the two empty seats were


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reserved for Williams and Wilmore who


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were set to return alongside the crew


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nine astronauts in February the plan did


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face some trouble though as technical


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issues delayed the launch of NASA's


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SpaceX crew 10 Mission postponing the


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crew Handover that meant that crew nine


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alongside Williams and Wilmore would not


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be able to depart the ISS until crew 10


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is on the space station sometime in


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April following Trump's nonsensical rant


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NASA ended up switching the SpaceX crew


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spacecraft to bring the two Starliner


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astronauts back later this month the


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move was likely influenced by Trump's


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pressure but either way the change only


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shortens the astronaut's time in Space


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by about 2 weeks in an interview with


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Fox News host Sean Hannity broadcast


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last month Trump and musk doubl down on


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their false claims musk told Hannity


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that SpaceX is accelerating the return


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of the astronauts who work left up there


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for political reasons Musk also claimed


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without presenting any evidence that he


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had offered the Biden Administration a


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plan to bring the two Starliner


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astronauts back sooner without waiting


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for the crew 9 mission to return from


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the


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ISS during the recent presser aboard the


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ISS Wilmore wasn't able to confirm


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musk's claim admitting he has no


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information about that whatsoever such


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as what was offered what was not offered


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who it was offered to how that process


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went that's information that we simply


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don't have I believe him Wilmore added


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during the live broadcast


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I don't know all those details and I


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don't think any of us can give you the


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answer the astronauts downplayed their


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Extended Stay on the ISS due to the


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faulty spacecraft claiming that it's all


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part of the job we came up prepared to


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stay long even though we plann to stay


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short Wilmore said that's what we do in


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human space flight that's what your


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nation's human space flight program is


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all about planning for unknown


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unexpected


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contingencies and we did that Williams


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on the other hand did admit that the


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extra months in space did have a toll on


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people on earth I think the hardest part


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is having the folks on the ground have


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to not know exactly when we're coming


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back all of that uncertainty I think is


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probably the most difficult part


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Williams told reporters on


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Tuesday Starliner first crude test


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flight to the ISS has suffered some


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unfortunate events since its launch and


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the latest controversy surrounding the


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mission is very much on brand astronomy


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daily The podast Landing a spacecraft on


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the moon has long been a series of hits


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and misses the latest casually came this


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week after intuitive machines through a


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NASA sponsored program placed another


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Lander sideways on the moon within 24


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hours the Lander's batteries were dead


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and the mission was over last year's


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intuitive machines Mission lasted a


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little bit longer despite hampered


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operations it put us back on the moon


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for the first time since the end of the


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Apollo program another us company


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Firefly Aerospace earlier this week


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added its Luna Lander to the win list


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becoming the first private entity to


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pull off a successful moon landing both


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Texas businesses are part of NASA's


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effort to support commercial deliveries


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to the Moon ahead of astronaut missions


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later this Des decade the Moon is


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littered with wreckage from failed


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Landings over the years a rundown of the


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moon's winners and losers runs a bit


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like this the first victories are the


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Soviet Union's Luna nine successful


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touchdowns on the moon in the


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1966 after its predecessors crash or


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miss the moon altogether the US follows


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4 months later with surveyor 1 both


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countries achieve more robotic Landings


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as the race heats up to land men there


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then NASA clinches the space race with


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the Soviets in 1969 with a moon landing


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by Apollo 11's Neil Armstrong and Buzz


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Aldren walking on the moon for the first


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time 12 astronauts follow and explore


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the surface over six missions before the


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program ends with Apollo 17 in


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1972 still the only country to send


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humans to the moon the United States


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hopes to return cruise to the surface by


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the end of 2026 or so a year after a


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Luna fly around by astronauts China in


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2013 became the Third Country to


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successfully land on the Moon delivering


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a Rover named U2 Chinese for Jade


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Rabbit China follows with u22 Rover in


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2019 this time touching down on the


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moon's unexplored Far Side an impressive


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first a sample return mission on the


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moon's near side in 2020 yields nearly


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1.7 kg of lunar rocks and dirt another


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sample return Mission From The Far Side


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in 2024 delivers rocks and soil from the


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less explored part of the Moon seen as


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NASA's Moon rival China aims to put its


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astronauts on the Moon by


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2030 in


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2023 Russia tried for its first moon


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landing in nearly half a century but the


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Luna 25 spacecraft smashed into the moon


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the country's previous Lander 1976's


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Luna 24 not only landed but returned


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moon rocks back to the Earth after its


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first Lander slammed into the moon in


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2019 India regroups and launches the


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chandran three threee in 2023 the craft


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successfully touches down making India


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the fourth country to score a Luna


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Landing the wind comes just 4 days after


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Russia's Crash Landing then Japan


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becomes the fifth country to land


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successfully on the moon with its


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spacecraft touching down in January the


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craft lands on the wrong side


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compromising its ability to generate


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solar power but manages to crank out


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pictures and science before falling


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silent when the long lunar KN sets in a


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privately funded Lander from Israel


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named


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Brit Hebrew for in the beginning crashes


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into the moon in 2019 a Japanese


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entrepreneurs company ipace launches a


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Luna Lander in 2023 but it it to wrecks


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intuitive machines becomes the first


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private outfit to achieve a safe moon


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landing the Lander tipped over on its


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side in 2024 but worked briefly with


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limited Communications another us


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company astrobotic technology tried to


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send a Lander to the moon the same year


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but had to give up because of a fuel


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leak eventually returning to Earth and


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burning up over the Pacific this year's


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private rush to the Moon kicked off with


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firefly nailing its Landing by Blue


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Ghost delivering experiments for NASA


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next came intuitive machines second


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toppling Landing one more commercial


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Landing looms Japan's ipace company aims


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to land on June 5 after sharing a rocket


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ride from Florida with blue Ghost in


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January and we wish them the very best


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astronomy two space probes are facing


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serious issues just days after launch


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the two spacecraft were designed under


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low budgets and the status of both is


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already in doubt if you need yet another


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reminder that space travel is


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ridiculously complicated two freshly


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launched probes have already run into


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trouble on February 26th a SpaceX Falcon


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9 rocket launched from Kennedy Space


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Center with a payload that included


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NASA's lunar Trailblazer and AST forge's


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Odin by February 28 both had experienced


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Communications issues with their


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handlers back on Earth in a statement


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NASA said that while lunar Trailblazer


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had deployed from the rocket after


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reaching space without incident Mission


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controls soon began receiving troubling


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data about the spacecraft's Power


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Systems at 7:30 a.m. eastern time on


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February 27th communication with


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Trailblazer was lost only to be regained


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several hours later the team Now is


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working with NASA ground stations to


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reestablish Telemetry and commanding to


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better assess the power system issues


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and develop potential Solutions said


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NASA lunar Trailblazer designed to orbit


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the Moon was built to search for clues


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about the location and state of its


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water as part of the agency's small


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Innovative missions for planetary


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exploration Simplex program NASA has


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called the lunar Trailblazer high- risk


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low cost although Simplex missions are


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supposed to be capped at $55 million


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there have been cost overruns tied to


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the


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Trailblazer according to the New York


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Times the cost of building and operating


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it has reached $94


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million to maintain a lower overall cost


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Simplex missions have a higher risk


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posture and lighter requirements for


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oversight and management NASA said on


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its website this higher risk acceptance


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allows NASA to enable science missions


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that could not otherwise be done AST


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Forge has also experienced difficulties


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staying in touch with its spacecraft


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named Odin the probe is designed to scan


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for valuable Metals as part of the


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company's goal of mining Asteroids for


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profit writing on X yesterday Astro


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Forge said it had run into countless


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ground station issues but had multiple


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communication points with Odin in a


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video update posted early Friday morning


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CEO Matt gik said Communications issues


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were the result of a ground-based power


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amplifier


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braking however the company believes


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Odin is in a power positive State and


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that the vehicle is roughly where it


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should be and is expected to reach the


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opposite side of the moon in 2 days as


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gilic admitted Astro Forge doesn't fully


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understand the state of the vehicle he


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listed two possibilities the most likely


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he said is that everything is fine but


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there is a possibility that the craft is


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in an uncontrolled tumble more


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information is expected on Friday night


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like lunar Trailblazer Odin is a


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low-budget Affair astrof Forge estimates


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the mission cost at $6.5 million and has


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raised at least $55 million in funding


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since launching in


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2022 the plan calls for Odin to use the


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moon's gravity to propel itself towards


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an asteroid called 2022 eb5 which is


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currently around


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6,500,000 km from Earth the timeline to


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complete the mission is


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uncertain before launch gilic seem to be


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hedging his bets saying that the low


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cost entailed exceptional risks tagging


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along on the pairs launch was a second


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lunar bound probe but this one's


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fortunes appear to be brighter thus far


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on February 27th intuitive machine said


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in a statement that its Athena lunar


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lander is in excellent Health having


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established a stable attitude its solar


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panels are functioning and the


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spacecraft is in radio


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communication on Friday the company said


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on its website that Athena is about


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halfway to the moon and is communicating


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fine with the mission flight


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controllers the Lander is scheduled to


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touch down on the surface on Thursday


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March


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6th space travel is tricky with


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countless variables that can go wrong in


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what is one of the most hostile


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environments


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imaginable some people and we're not


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naming names may think risking human


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lives on full hearty missions through


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the void is reasonable the two


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spacecraft's troubles should be a


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reminder that it is not astronomy daily


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the the intu machines Athena moonlander


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is confirmed dead after toppling on its


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side it ended up on its side on the L


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surface of the Moon according to


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spokesman from intuitive machines this


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week the Athena Lander will not be able


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to recharge its batteries due to the


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orientation of its solar panels less


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than a day after intuitive machines


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landed on the moon the company declared


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an early end to its mission after its


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Athena spacecraft wound up in an


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compromised position on on the lunar


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surface Athena touched down on the moon


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on Thursday around 12:30 p.m. Eastern uh


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time its Landing was less than ideal


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they said however the as the Lander


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ended up 250 M away from its targeted


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Landing site in


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monmon L located in the southern pole


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region of the Moon images downlink from


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the mission confirmed that Athena was on


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its side inside the crater and its


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batteries had in fact died with the


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direction of the Sun the orientation of


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the solar panels and the extreme cold


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temperatures in the crat crater


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intuitive machines does not expect


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Athena to recharge the company wrote in


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an update on Friday Athena managed to


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send back pictures confirming its


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position and activate a few experiments


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before going silent NASA and other


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customers had packed the Lander with


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tens of millions of dollars worth of


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experiments including an ice drill drone


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and a pair of Rovers to roam the


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unexplored terrain ahead of astronauts


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planned arrival later this decade it's


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unlikely that Athena's batteries can be


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recharged given the way the Lander solar


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panels are pointed and the extreme cold


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in the crater the mission has concluded


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and teams are continuing to assess the


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data collected throughout the mission


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the company said in a statement the


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bigger four-wheeled Rover carried by


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Athena never made it off The Fallen


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Lander but data being back indicated


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that it had survived and could have


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driven away had everything gone well


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said Luna Outpost the Colorado company


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that owns it the mission has concluded


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and teams are continuing to assess the


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data this is the second time a Lander by


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intuitive machines toppled sideways and


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represented a blow to the company's goal


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by launching payloads to the Moon


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regularly the Athena launched on


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February 6 aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9


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rocket as part of NASA's commercial Luna


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payload Services Program the Lander was


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packed with NASA science tools and


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instruments including micronova robot


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named Grace which is designed to hop in


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and out of nearby craters on the moon


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the Lander entered a new uh lunar orbit


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on Monday before attempting to touch


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down on the surface the following a nail


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biting descent intuitive machines was


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working to figure out the Landers


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orientation on the moon we don't believe


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that we're in the correct attitude on


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the moon on the moon surface yet again


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intuitive machine CEO Steve Ultimus said


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in a press briefing on Thursday I don't


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have all the data yet to say exactly


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what the attit attitude of the vehicle


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is at the time Ultimus was still hopeful


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that the mission would operate in some


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capacity on the surface of the Moon he


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goes on to say we will then work closely


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with NASA Science and Technology Group


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group to identify science objectives


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that are the highest priority and then


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we'll figure out what the mission will


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look like he said on Thursday but it now


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seems that all hope is lost for Athena


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the South Pole region of the moon is


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particularly difficult to reach and


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operate on given the harsh Sun angles


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limited communication and withe Earth


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and Uncharted rugged terrain after


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Athena's Landing the closest to


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spacecraft has come to the South Pole is


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just 100 m away that's where NASA is


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targeting for its first landing by


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astronauts since the 1960s and70s Apollo


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program no earlier than 2027 or so the


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craters are believed to hold tons of


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Frozen water that could be used by


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Future Crews to drink or turn into


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Rocket Fuel intuitive machines has


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contracts with NASA for two more Landing


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deliveries the company said it will need


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to determine exactly what went wrong


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this time before launching the next


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mission in both Landings by intuitive


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machines problems arose at the last


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minute with the prime laser navigation


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system intuitive machine rocket


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propelled drone Grace was supposed to


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hop across the lunar surface before


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jumping into a crater to look for Frozen


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water the two Rovers from the other


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companies one American and one Japanese


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were going to scout around the area as


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well NASA's ice drill experiment was


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activated before the land of batteries


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died how much could be accomplished is


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not immediately known several other


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objectives were accelerated ated in


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Milestones met according to the company


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which is good news NASA paid $62 million


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to intuitive machines to get its three


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experiments to the Moon intuitive


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machines has been here before the


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company launched its first Luna Lander


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named adicus in February 2024 adicus


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managed to reach the lunar surface but


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its Landing wasn't so smooth either one


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of its Landing legs may have gotten


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caught during its descent causing it to


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tip over on its side and end up lying


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sideways on a rock the mission did


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operate for 7 Days on the lunar surface


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and the company became the first to land


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a private Lander on the moon this is an


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unfortunate ending to the follow-up


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Mission but intuitive machines is aiming


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to launch its third mission later this


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year hopefully with better


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luck thanks again for staying with us


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what it's true yeah okay what have you


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